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Priscillian wrote:Did you notice that those Heavenly Musicians who arch so gracefully across the Portico are Laughing as they tune up for their Final Performance? Quote: "There must be something there which compels and attracts so many secular pilgrims!" Yes, perhaps that is the Ultimate Enigma! P.S. I'll have to order copies of Ms. King. Reading online gives me a headache!

PILGRIMSPLAZA wrote:I do hope that you'll earn that lunch! You are getting very close to the enigma I'm talking about.
PILGRIMSPLAZA wrote:I do hope that you'll earn that lunch! A friend sent http://users.drew.edu/vburrus leading to http://muse.jhu.edu/login?uri=/journals ... urrus.html but perhaps you already knew?
No, Gareth, I'll not give it away like I've been asked before but stick to what is already mentioned. Anyway, nobody needs clues; it really is your way of looking. This is basicly not about religion but about art and craft of passing messages in stone in times without paper! Perhaps knowlegde about contexts doesn't make it easier. I guess it was all clear for 'illiterate' medieval stone bible readers. Perhaps that's why it was never mentioned in books because it is so simple and obvious. It's not a new thing either, it's been there for ages. Words like easy or difficult are also not relevant here.Gareth Thomas wrote:I hope you're not going to make it too easy.

Ah Gareth, I like your faith and respect your convictions very much and in fact I'm a little jealous. I do wish I could believe like you but I can't so I'm condemned to work a little harder. I'm not sure if the case of feminism is relevant here but Ms King made me conscious and Tracy's first post just triggered me and I like the way they both look. I'm convinced that our differences are smaller than they may look now and I do believe that we'll all meet somewhere one day; perhaps halfway? That would be a marvelous party! I do hope that you will choose to stay on board of this trip!Gareth Thomas wrote:There is nothing here of any value.

PILGRIMSPLAZA wrote:I do hope that you will choose to stay on board of this trip!
You’re making some good points again, Gareth! In my early days as a professional pilgrim in a large tourist club it was my job to give any information on the camino I could provide. Then I couldn’t say in public “The best travel advice is: Stay home and read!”, but the thought did cross my mind seeing how ill-prepared some pilgrims set out. This problem has never left my mind as some of my friends know but I wouldn't know what to do about it! Life can be hard and we can't solve all problems!Gareth Thomas wrote:respect

PILGRIMSPLAZA wrote:He was the brother (Ms King even calls him a twin) of Christ and second-in-command after Him.
Thank you very much for this beautiful and comprehensive post, Gareth! It is nicely in line with our goal “to answer some questions on naming James after Jacobus or Jacob under the title: ‘Ja’akov and Jacobus - is the name a sign?’”. That new contribution is now being translated from Dutch into English, which “proved a little difficult with the names of Jacob, Jacobus and James” as stated on top of this page.Gareth Thomas wrote:There's always a lot of confusion about the different people called James.



By definition, and quicker too, I would say. When I see some messages of young pilgrims in a hurry I sometimes think of this beautiful line "pray that the road is long" in this poem by Kavafis:Priscillian wrote:we can find more answers to our "Enigma" in poetry than we can in literary discourse.

Surfing on the internet for a translation of that beautiful poem I found Tracy's own interpretation, so -with her consent- here it is:Priscillian wrote:...find more answers to our "Enigma" in poetry than we can in literary discourse...



Here you are then, the smiling prophet Daniel. I have spent this evening re-reading the book of the prophet Daniel in the Navarre Bible which has a very good commentary, but I have a long way to go before I'm ready to 'read' the story of these stones with any confidence. Then we have a second Daniel at ground level. On the base of the pillar where St James is seated, we have Daniel in the lions' den. He is between two lions and his fingers are in their mouths. Pilgrims would throw sand into the open mouths while placing their right hand on the well known place just above this. Then on the reverse of this we have the supposed self-portrait by Maestro Mateo, facing into the cathedral. What we do know about him is that he was well paid and received a contract for the completion of the work. What we don't know is precisely what he did. Was he responsible for the building or the programme of sculpture, a master artisan? There are various theories. Finally, I have to share my news with you. Today it was agreed by the V & A Museum public relations department that I should be allowed into the museum for one hour on May 9th, before it opens to the public, to spend some time alone in the cast gallery, looking at the Portico de la Gloria and photographing it uninterrupted by the crowds of visitors. This is also three days before I set out walking from here to Santiago, so it is an interesting development. I think I'm going to have a good Camino, the way things are going. I just have to beware the rottweillers in France....(!)PILGRIMSPLAZA wrote:You have already seen what struck me but you do not yet interpret it my way, but that may only be a matter of time now... Please send another one of Daniel for he is important in this story. Isn’t this great! Congratulations!




Excellent, Tracy! Keep looking and talking; you're getting close! Last week I asked all my friends who know or were (getting) close what they would prefer: an open discussion or not. They all asked me not to publish the answer! We all agree on giving more pilgrims a fair chance of making their own discoveries in the Gloria and letting them enjoy their moments of Glory. I am now investigating the possibilities of a kind of private chat box for devoted initiates, Hyves or perhaps a special Newsletter for The Santiago Enigma via my private mail. If anyone has any suggestions, please don't be shy, dolls and guys! GeertPriscillian wrote:Daniel ...look at his face!


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