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To poncho or not to poncho?

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Any advice re Ponchos I’ve looked at Decathlon for ponchos but there’s are not breathable.Any breathable ponchos out there that have a ready made hump at the back for the rucksack. Looking for lightweight for carrying breathable and efficient preferable with long arms.
looking forward to hearing opinions and recomendations
 
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It is really personal preference. Some love them. Some hate them. I am; in the "I hate them" group. I don't like how big they are and how they usually blow in the wind. I prefer a rain jacket with pit zips and a pack cover. I don't worry about my lets - unless it is very cold weather season/winter - then I might bring rain pants. I also use my rain jacket as part of my normal cold weather layering. I can wear it by itself for some wind protection, or as an outer layer when it is colder and my puffy isn't quite enough. So for those reasons - I do prefer a rain jacket.

If you can afford to - you might want to try out both a rain jacket and poncho and see what works best for you before you leave. Otherwise - just pick what you "think" you will prefer.

If I were to go with a poncho though - I would go for one that adequately covers my pack I suppose. And preferably more fitted.
 
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I only used a waterproof jacket and trousers on my first Camino. (And backpack cover.) The reason I went for a poncho after that was because a poncho is so much easier to pop on and off when it's showery. Also your backpack straps stay dry too.

Lightweight, breathable and cheap too; try the Frogg Toggs. But it doesn't cover all your arms. I used it over a lightweight jacket so my arms stayed dry and I could use my poles. It also kept me dry when Galicia did it's best and rained really hard all day. I also used lightweight waterproof trousers. So rather belt and braces!!

I have now bought an Altus poncho and tested it at home. It is more like a hybrid poncho/coat as it is long (well past my knees), has a full length zip and proper sleeves. It is lighter than the Frogg Togg + rain pants combo. But it is not breathable other than being quite airy. There are Velcro patches by the zip so it would be possible to vent through the front depending on wind direction. It is easier in windy conditions than the Frogg Togg poncho which has a tendency to un-popper. Check out @davebugg posts as he has very useful tips for how to use the Frogg Togg poncho effectively in wind.

If you want to know more about the Altus poncho check out Annie Santiago's video
 
I just tested my Frogg togg poncho out in the rain and decided to go with my rain jacket. The poncho didn't cover my arms and the hood just got in the way of my vision. I've walked 2 camino's already with the rain jacket and prefer that. Althought I did buy a 3 euro one in Sarria to cover my back pack.
 
Poncho.

Breathable doesn't really matter with a poncho, since you can easily lift it to get some air under, and there is much better airflow than with a jacket anyway.

"Breathable" rain gear is often only extra expensive, but not necessarily better.

I've got a german brand "hunch back poncho" with arm sleeves, non breathable, sturdy, totally rain proof. Love it. It's like a walking tent. Doubles as an extra blanket in cold nights and as a picnic blanket.

But I've also walked with a cheap supermarket brand one without the backpack extra room and without sleeves, and it was still okay.

So don't worry. Just bring some kind of rain gear and you'll be fine :)

Buen Camino and happy planning!






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I only used a waterproof jacket and trousers on my first Camino. (And backpack cover.) The reason I went for a poncho after that was because a poncho is so much easier to pop on and off when it's showery. Also your backpack straps stay dry too.
I am firmly on team Dry Straps. When I was training for Camino I got caught in a sudden rainstorm one morning and even though my rain gear was in my pack I wanted to know how long it would take the straps to dry. The answer was more than 24 hours. When I put the pack o n the next day the wet straps chafed.

Poncho is also much more fun to say!
 
You might consider a rain jacket and skirt, which is what I use. Both are quick to get off and on and are extremely light weight. My jacket is Montbell Versalite (have previously used OR Helium) and my skirt is 3F UL Gear (other options are out there). I have found ponchos to be cumbersome and heavy. I do not use a rain cover for my pack because it's quick drying and I use a pack liner (both from Gossamer Gear). I have been rained on many times!
 
Before my Camino i brought and wore a Haglof LIM jacket (28000 ml hydrostatic head supposedly ultra waterproof and lightweight at 220gms! then i had a leak) The jacket not me:)

Got an Altus because people said they were great; i tested it with my daughter and it was waterproof! (video attached)
However i had taken my time indoors sorting it out and putting it on.(XLis a large area of material for me to negotiate in a hurry)
First time i was caught in the rain ;by the time i got it on i was wet.

So i reproofed my Haglof and wore it with my rain kilt; i also carry a hands free umbrella this set up worked for me.
Stayed dry in all day heavy rain, the umbrella helps as long as it is not to windy.

The Haglof is for,wind,rain and casual wear the poncho only fits one criteria. (unless you want to look like Clint Eastwood all day; although i fit all three he fulfils :good,bad and ugly🤣
Rain kilt is easy on easy off lightweight (78 gms) and comes down well below the knee and is well ventilated.
Your feet get wet no matter what you wear!
Woody
Excuse my language the shock of the cold water caused mild hypothermia and my speech was affected;)
 

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I am firmly on team Dry Straps. When I was training for Camino I got caught in a sudden rainstorm one morning and even though my rain gear was in my pack I wanted to know how long it would take the straps to dry. The answer was more than 24 hours. When I put the pack o n the next day the wet straps chafed.

Poncho is also much more fun to say!
It is funny because I am sure my straps got wet since I had lots of rain and used a rain jacket/pack cover - but I didn't pay any attention to them. Of course - even when I wore sleeveless shirts - the material covered me where the straps sit - so they worked for me to prevent chafing. I occasionally wore a tank top in which the material didn't cover me under the straps - but I don't think I wore a tank top in the rain.
 
I am firmly poncho-sceptic. I went so far as to own one once but I clearly lack @woody66 ‘s style and elegance as I wouldn’t be seen dead in one.

I have never seen a poncho worn as a waterproof other than on Camino and - if they were that good - surely the use would have spread?
 
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Any advice re Ponchos I’ve looked at Decathlon for ponchos but there’s are not breathable.Any breathable ponchos out there that have a ready made hump at the back for the rucksack. Looking for lightweight for carrying breathable and efficient preferable with long arms.
looking forward to hearing opinions and recommendations
All ponchos are breathable, by the fact that the sides are mostly open. The key is to get a backpacking or hiking poncho - one with the extra 'hump' material - so that the poncho also covers your rucksack.

My plastic / nylon side snaps kept coming undone, allowing me to get very wet. So, I 'super-glued' them together. One drop per snap will do it. They no longer come undone. The poncho can still be used for its original purpose, plus, a ground cover, tube tent, toilet privacy shade, or tarp shade (albeit at half the size).

FYI, I use the Sea-to-Summit silicon nylon ultra lightweight hiking poncho. After experimenting each year, I settled on these ponchos by year four.

A poncho is a wonderfully versatile item that can be used in a multitude of ways. Try to get one in a contrasting, bright color. This increases road walking safety. The key is to maximize the contrast between you and your surroundings.

It is not necessary to have a florescent poncho. But, black, navy blue and brown / rust type colors do not heighten contrast. Light blue, white, red, and some other not day-glo colors do increase contrast between you and your surroundings.

Hope this helps.

Tom
 
I am a poncho person. Had a German one that had the hump on the back and it worked fantastic in pouring rain, super high winds with rain and everything stayed dry. Gave it to a friend to use and now have
an Altus for this year and am so excited to have one.
If it looks like rain, put it on, but let it hang off your pack. It takes a few seconds to pull it over your arms and head. When the rain stops, reverse and let it hang to dry off the pack. On days where it rains off and on 50 times a day, you will be grateful for this type of poncho. It also saves the weight of a pack cover and the need for dry bags.
 
An Oscar winning video….just for the fun element I’m sold on this one.
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Any advice re Ponchos I’ve looked at Decathlon for ponchos but there’s are not breathable.Any breathable ponchos out there that have a ready made hump at the back for the rucksack. Looking for lightweight for carrying breathable and efficient preferable with long arms.
looking forward to hearing opinions and recomendations
I'm firmly in the poncho camp. Mine is an Altus. Here are the features I like:
1. Goes over pack and to mid-calf. Easy to put on.
2. Zipper in front all the way
3. Sleeves with vented armpit area.
I have worn this all day in the pouring rain and stayed comfortable. If it gets too warm you can upzip. Sleeves are much better than the older style flaps. This brand comes in S-M and in M-L.

I used to pack jacket and rain pants. I really hate having to stop and put on the rain pants. A lot of times I would end up wet because I waited too long and it was raining too hard while I was trying to get the pants on. On my last Camino I took a rain jacket and a poncho. I used the rain jacket on light rain days and on chilly days I would put it over my sweater. Of course you'll need a pack cover if you go the rain jacket route also. I've had too many pack covers that don't keep the rain out well. Poncho is a great pack cover.
 
Although I can‘t give it a proper review yet (since I just received it and I’m starting my Camino in May) I purchased the Packa after reading reviews. It’s a hybrid rain jacket/poncho/backpack cover. http://www.thepacka.com/ I’m waiting on a nice rain to check it out.
 
I do not argue personal choices, which are a subjective thing. . . what someone likes is not arguable. Some folks like liver and onions, others hate both.

For the last decade, at least, I have found myself choosing a poncho for wet-weather walking. There are certain usability characteristics that I now prefer with ponchos. So I will point out some things that are objective considerations about the poncho. Again, there is no wrong choice because personal taste and preference is based around a huge number of variables, and every person has unique need and wants..

Altus and other similar sleeved hybrids of ponchos (rainchos?) can also share the some of the benefits of poncho use, but are generally heavier and bulkier, if that is an issue.

Ponchos that I would recommend are pretty lightweight. As an example, The Frogg Toggs when it is actually scaled, weighs around the 6 ounce mark. They can be had for $15.00 to $25.00, so that is a HUGE bargain for a highly functional piece of rain protective gear.

If I use my Zpacks poncho which is made from Dyneema (Cuben Fiber), it weighs just a bit more than 2.5 ounces and is tough as nails. I do like the Frogg Toggs a lot, though, and have used it quite a bit.

I find a poncho is more easily deployed. I can pull it out of the side pocket of my backpack and slip it on over my backpack, and I do not even have to stop. I usually do pause for the ten seconds it takes to put on, because I am becoming a bit clumsy :) I do not need to take my backpack off, put on a rain jacket, put the backpack back on.

This alone is a huge factor for me when it rains - as is often the case - it is off and on while walking. Periodic sprinkles and showers can eat up a lot of time and energy with a rain jacket IF you take it off and put it on as the immediate conditions change. There is no need to fiddle with rain covers on backpacks, and shoulder straps remain dry.

With a poncho, I can respond to conditions within seconds. I can whip off the poncho as soon as the rain has slowed or stopped, and not question "should I wait to see if it starts back up?" This helps to keep sweat condensation way down.

Air circulation and ventilation reduce condensation moisture build up, and this is helped along because of the poncho sitting over the backpack, creating air space between itself and the body. With a rain jacket, the backpack is sitting directly ON the rain coat, blocking the escape of water vapor from a breathable fabric.

A poncho can work equally as well, and even more flexibly, as an outer layer. The same quickness to deploy and remove a poncho works well in trying to avoid unexpected wind chill. And if the morning is cool as I start to walk, but I know I will be warm after a short walk, simply putting the poncho on for a few minutes and then whipping it off works well to avoid overheating.

On my poncho, I spend about 15 minutes after I purchase it and add a slight modification with cordage that controls flappiness and billowing during windy, stormy conditions.

The hood on a poncho can be floppy, but is designed in a way to be able to use a baseball-style cap underneath to keep the hood perfectly sitting on one's head.

On the aesthetics side, rain jackets do have the edge. . . depending on if form is a factor with regard to function.

And ponchos are great multitaskers:
  • A shelter lean-to. A bit of cord and trekking poles make it even more independent in setting up.
  • A sun shelter, it can be rigged up to provide you shade in hot climates.
  • Ground cloth: Under a tent, or a survival shelter, a poncho can protect you from the damp ground. If you are in a cold damp climate, this can help you stay warm.
  • Wind Break: A poncho without a liner will not have much insulation. However, as an outer shell, it can add an additional 10 to 20 degrees of warmth to whatever insulating layer you are wearing. You will stay warmer wearing the poncho in windy weather, helping to protect you from wind chill.
  • Privacy: A great makeshift, emergency privacy screen when needing a Nature Break where a natural coverage of bushes or tall grass is scarce. It also works when needing to change pants or shorts.
  • Sit pad. When taking a break and the ground and benches and flat rocks and logs, etc. are damp.
  • Mattress cover.
  • An emergency backpack or carryall when you do not have a small daypack.
  • A windshell to add a bit of extra warmth to clothing layers. It is great for those cool, early mornings when you need something that can be quickly removed after you have warmed up from walking.
 
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Any advice re Ponchos I’ve looked at Decathlon for ponchos but there’s are not breathable.Any breathable ponchos out there that have a ready made hump at the back for the rucksack. Looking for lightweight for carrying breathable and efficient preferable with long arms.
looking forward to hearing opinions and recomendations
I definitely prefer a rain jacket with a backpack cover. I wound up leaving my poncho at an albergue. I didn’t like it flapping all over in the wind.
 
Very light, comfortable and compressible poncho. Specially designed for protection against water for any activity.

Our Atmospheric H30 poncho offers lightness and waterproofness. Easily compressible and made with our Waterproof fabric, its heat-sealed interior seams guarantee its waterproofness. Includes carrying bag.

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Have tried both poncho and rain jacket, for a relatively light shower a rain jacket is fine. For those Galician monsoons I'm a poncho convert, I often carry both though if I could take only one it would be the poncho. Mine is from Snugpak, a British firm that makes lightweight gear for the military so don't expect bright colours ;-) .
It isn't your normal poncho as it has sleeves, a map pocket and is sized to cover a pack. Very waterproof and known for being quite breathable. Weighs less than 400 grams and doubles as a ground sheet and a bivi at a push. Cost was about 40gbp.
Hope this helps?

Martin
 
I was in drenching rain for many days during my 2018 Camino and had only a rain jacket and pack cover. Water dripped down my back all day long, day after day. I'm starting my next (fourth) Camino in May and have purchased a poncho made by Outdoor Products, sold at REI, 11 ounces. Fingers crossed.
 
Very light, comfortable and compressible poncho. Specially designed for protection against water for any activity.

Our Atmospheric H30 poncho offers lightness and waterproofness. Easily compressible and made with our Waterproof fabric, its heat-sealed interior seams guarantee its waterproofness. Includes carrying bag.

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It ain't pretty, but it works.

(Raincoat-poncho hybrid with extra room for the backpack, obviously still not enough extra room for my giant monster pack with full camping gear on top of it).

The kitten carrier got its own poncho made of a black garbage bag.

Of course to be worn with socks in sandals for the true pilgrim style.

giant poncho.jpg
 
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We used ponchos for our 2017 Camino, but didn’t really get on with them and left them in Santiago. For our 2018 Camino we used a hands-free trekking umbrella (bought through this website) and it worked well for us. The added advantage is that it provides shade on hot days.
We’re starting our next Camino in May and only plan on taking our umbrellas (plus a waterproof cover for rucksacks and everything inside plastic bags). Hopefully this will be enough, if not we’ll have to try another poncho!
 
Any advice re Ponchos I’ve looked at Decathlon for ponchos but there’s are not breathable.Any breathable ponchos out there that have a ready made hump at the back for the rucksack. Looking for lightweight for carrying breathable and efficient preferable with long arms.
looking forward to hearing opinions and recomendations
Personally dont like them. Had one, bought in logrono cause the weather turned wet and I had sent my rain jacket home thinking I would not need it. However, some people love them so its your choice
 
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I had a poncho on my September 2022 hike on the Camino Frances. I hated it. Spain is a leader in Wind Energy. There's a reason for that, there's a lot of wind. If I took a regular raincoat I could have used it for just a plain warmth coat, too. Davebugg listed a bunch of stuff the Poncho can be used for. Lean to, sun shelter, ground cloth, wind break, etc. None of that stuff you actually need on the Camino
 
We used ponchos for our 2017 Camino, but didn’t really get on with them and left them in Santiago. For our 2018 Camino we used a hands-free trekking umbrella (bought through this website) and it worked well for us. The added advantage is that it provides shade on hot days.
We’re starting our next Camino in May and only plan on taking our umbrellas (plus a waterproof cover for rucksacks and everything inside plastic bags). Hopefully this will be enough, if not we’ll have to try another poncho!
Thank you maybe see you on the Camino we start from sjpdp in May
 
We used ponchos for our 2017 Camino, but didn’t really get on with them and left them in Santiago. For our 2018 Camino we used a hands-free trekking umbrella (bought through this website) and it worked well for us. The added advantage is that it provides shade on hot days.
We’re starting our next Camino in May and only plan on taking our umbrellas (plus a waterproof cover for rucksacks and everything inside plastic bags). Hopefully this will be enough, if not we’ll have to try another poncho!
Thank you see you in May we start our Camino then
 
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Poncho convert here. I used a rain jacket on France, nothing (!!) on the Portuguese - got lucky - but for Del Norte I used a Frogg’s Toggs and now I’m firmly in the poncho camp. So easy to take on and off and on Del Norte, that’s important as rainstorms come and go frequently. Just Google Del Norte mud.
 
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So many experiences, so many opinions…
For what it’s worth, here’s my 2 cents!

I’ve found the combination of a light wind breaker/rain jacket, pack cover and the Altus poncho / coat to be ideal. On warm/hotter days when rain is in the forecast consider starting the day with the pack cover on and wearing your wind breaker/ light jacket. If it gets too warm, stash the the jacket. If it looks like the sky will open, pull out the Atlus, wear open and tie the arms thru your pack straps (you now have a cape coving your pack with tons of air flow). When necessary, put your arms thru the sleeves and do up the Atlus as much as or as little as needed. If the rain is intermittent, switch between “cape mode” and “coat mode” as needed. The beauty of the pack cover/ Altus combination is that once your pack remains extra dry because you have two layers of protection and the Atlus doesn’t blow all over the place like a poncho
Also, I found that wearing shorts or 3/4 leggings worked better for me than long pants on rainy days. Skin drys faster than clothing… and ankles are easier to wash than pants!
 
To poncho NOT, says me.

Across France (April 2016) my rain gear was a poncho that also served as a ground sheet for my tent (see the alternative uses in the post by @davebugg above).

I had S Paul like conversion after lunch at Mourenx on the way to Navarrenx. First it blew, and blew and blew. No problem: it wasn't cold.

Then the rains came, just like that. And the now strong wind continued. No matter how I tried, I could not get the poncho over me and the pack.

And the SUVs were not interested in a sodden tramp by the side of the road.

It took a young damsel in a clapped out car to rescue this old dragon in distress.

Not only that, she knew the haka Ka Mate: and she knew the hand actions - these she demonstrated as the car careered along.

For several years I carried an Altus. Hardly used for rain: most often used to take off an early morning -5C chill, but that was not often.


Late last year I put the Altus to one side and now take my wind/waterproof parka with hood. When needed, the main difference is the parka goes on first with the waterproof pack on last. I have found the parka easier to put on. And it is about 150 grams lighter.
 
Thank you all for your advice and thoughts. I have chosen a decathlon one which I think will best fit my needs
 
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Can anyone tell me the weight of the Altus poncho? I've ordered one from the store in SJPP that I will pick up when I arrive next week. I'm putting all the weights of my stuff in lighterpack.com and I have no idea about this one. I ordered a size small. Thanks!
 
  • Weight:
  • S/M: 430g / 0.947 pounds / 15.16 ounces
  • L/XL: 500g / 1.102 pounds / 17.63 ounces
  • Sizing:
  • The length of size L/XL is 110cm from top of zip to lower hem and for users over 170cm. The sleeves are approx. 73cm long.
  • The length of size S/M is 104cm (105cm from top of zip to lower hem)
  • The length of size XS is 86cm (from top of zip to lower hem).
  • All sizes have a very generous cut.
 
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Altus convert here. I ditched my decades-long habit of rain jacket/rain pants/pack cover after trying on an Altus in SJPP. It saved weight, and is so much easier to get in and out of. On those on-again-off again days, you can drape the Altus over your pack, and tie the arms around your waist. Then when it starts to rain you can just untie, zip, and stay dry, without even breaking stride. No more stopping, taking off the pack etcetc..
 
So, with an Altus you don't also need a rain jacket? I'm on the Camino (France) in May and have a hard time thinking I can do without a rain jacket.
 
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  • Weight:
  • S/M: 430g / 0.947 pounds / 15.16 ounces
  • L/XL: 500g / 1.102 pounds / 17.63 ounces
  • Sizing:
  • The length of size L/XL is 110cm from top of zip to lower hem and for users over 170cm. The sleeves are approx. 73cm long.
  • The length of size S/M is 104cm (105cm from top of zip to lower hem)
  • The length of size XS is 86cm (from top of zip to lower hem).
  • All sizes have a very generous cut.
Perfect! Less than a pound! I'm impressed. I'm glad I decided to go that route! Thanks for the detailed info!
 
On my first CF in 2019 I had a poncho with me. 2 days of heavy rain (direct behind Grañon) and the day I walked into Santigo. I made mixed experiences.

On my upcoming CP I will bring a ultra lightweight rainjacket (cycling jacket with extended back) and a raincover for the b/p.
 
Although I can‘t give it a proper review yet (since I just received it and I’m starting my Camino in May) I purchased the Packa after reading reviews. It’s a hybrid rain jacket/poncho/backpack cover. http://www.thepacka.com/ I’m waiting on a nice rain to check it out.
Hi John Rogers, how did the Packa do on your May camino? My husband and I are thinking about getting these.
 
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Hi John Rogers, how did the Packa do on your May camino? My husband and I are thinking about getting these.
Very sad story there… I discovered upon arriving home from one of my practice hikes before leaving for the Camino it had come loose from where I had it strapped on to the bottom of my pack. I retraced my steps but never found the Packa. It was the day before I was leaving so I ended up purchasing an Altus poncho in SJPDP. The Altus was great but I was really looking forward to using the Packa.
 
Very sad story there… I discovered upon arriving home from one of my practice hikes before leaving for the Camino it had come loose from where I had it strapped on to the bottom of my pack. I retraced my steps but never found the Packa. It was the day before I was leaving so I ended up purchasing an Altus poncho in SJPDP. The Altus was great but I was really looking forward to using the Packa.
Oh gosh, that must have been so disappointing.
 
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