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Men's Underwear Thread, anti-chafe/pro-support (NSFL 'not safe for ladies')

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2016 SJPdP to Santiago, Finisterre. Hadrian's Way, 2015. Sections of the AT + National & State Park trails.
LADIES WARNING: contained in this thread may be more personal information and or discussions of the male anatomy than your delicate constitutions may endure, proceed at your own risk.

MEN: This is a serious thread, but clearly male sensibilities meet a somewhat lower bar than that of the ladies, still I encourage you all to keep this "family friendly" when you post.


Unless I am totally clueless we men may choose to hike/walk/wander wearing 'boxers,' 'briefs,' the new 'boxer brief' or nothing at all (aka 'Commando').

In my normal non-walkabout life I generally prefer the loose fit of the 'boxers' which allows for massive airflow and ventilation of the boys, but when I am on a hike or a long walk, the option of some support for the twig & berries, combined with the reality of chafing of the thighs, leads me to the 'boxer-brief' hybrid undergarments. This is especially so in hot & humid conditions.

Being a certifiable (actually my mom had me tested and I'm technically not 'certifiable' but my wife debates that point) "gear junkie" I tend to buy, test, try, and generally abuse as many different types of gear as I can afford.

Here are my conclusions:


    • If you WANT SUPPORT then "briefs" or "Boxer-Briefs" will fullfill your needs, but all are not created equally.
    • If you WANT PROTECTION from chafing then "Boxer-Briefs" may be your inner thighs new best friends.
    • If you WANT maximum VENTILATION then "Boxers" are the clear choice, but not all are created equally.
    • If you WANT VENTILATION + SUPPORT + PROTECTION from chafing then the newest high tech fabrics, in "Boxer-Brief" cut, with 9" inseams are your best choice.
DISCLAIMER: I did NOT test any of the MERINO WOOL undergarments.

First, and most obvious, observation: COTTON (or COTON) is the worst possible choice for undergarments.
It retains moisture, which yields a wonderful enviornment for bacterial growth, providing ample opportunities for dreaded 'crotch rot.' Cotton also does not breath when it gets wet so any hope of ventilation is eliminated in hot/humid environments.

After numerous trials, I narrowed down my search for VENTILATION, SUPPORT & ANTI-CHAFE PROTECTION to 3 finalists.

UNDER ARMOR "Heat Gear" boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' Sport Mesh boxer-brief with 9" inseam

The clear winner of those 3 finalists was the EX-OFFICIO Sport Mesh Boxer-Brief wtih 9" inseam.
It has the most open fabric weave of any brand I tried. The longer inseam provided extra Anti-Chafe protection, but it also allowed the brief to hug the thighs over a larger surface area which minimized the fabric from riding up the leg and bunching in the privates region. There is just enough crotatorial support to keep your personal gear in place but no so much as you need to reach down to make adjustments or alter yourself for comfort.

RUNNER - UP was the EX OFFICIO standard 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with a 6" inseam. NOT as breathable as the 'sport' version because it uses a different fabric. Also the legs tended to be slighlty more likely to ride up into the crotchal area and crush the junk. The gripage of the package offers only modest support and allows for some free willy movement, providing a casual and comfortable environment for the fellas.

LOSER BY A METRIC MILE: The UNDER ARMOR Heat Gear boxer briefs. These had a nice light fabric and provided a good amount of ventilation. They provided plent of supportive protection for the twig. But they had a smaller than average 'pouch' that tended to want to crush the berries. And by crush I do not mean like simply squeezing them in a vise, no, not that gentle. I mean like wanting them to be crushed by a hydraulic claw while simultaneously trying to stuff them back up inside your body cavity.

Others tested were not as good as these 3 so buyer beware. Clear winner was the pair the bottom of this photo.image.jpg
 
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LADIES WARNING: contained in this thread may be more personal information and or discussions of the male anatomy than your delicate constitutions may endure, proceed at your own risk.

MEN: This is a serious thread, but clearly male sensibilities meet a somewhat lower bar than that of the ladies, still I encourage you all to keep this "family friendly" when you post.


Unless I am totally clueless we men may choose to hike/walk/wander wearing 'boxers,' 'briefs,' the new 'boxer brief' or nothing at all (aka 'Commando').

In my normal non-walkabout life I generally prefer the loose fit of the 'boxers' which allows for massive airflow and ventilation of the boys, but when I am on a hike or a long walk, the option of some support for the twig & berries, combined with the reality of chafing of the thighs, leads me to the 'boxer-brief' hybrid undergarments. This is especially so in hot & humid conditions.

Being a certifiable (actually my mom had me tested and I'm technically not 'certifiable' but my wife debates that point) "gear junkie" I tend to buy, test, try, and generally abuse as many different types of gear as I can afford.

Here are my conclusions:


    • If you WANT SUPPORT then "briefs" or "Boxer-Briefs" will fullfill your needs, but all are not created equally.
    • If you WANT PROTECTION from chafing then "Boxer-Briefs" may be your inner thighs new best friends.
    • If you WANT maximum VENTILATION then "Boxers" are the clear choice, but not all are created equally.
    • If you WANT VENTILATION + SUPPORT + PROTECTION from chafing then the newest high tech fabrics, in "Boxer-Brief" cut, with 9" inseams are your best choice.
DISCLAIMER: I did NOT test any of the MERINO WOOL undergarments.

First, and most obvious, observation: COTTON (or COTON) is the worst possible choice for undergarments.
It retains moisture, which yields a wonderful enviornment for bacterial growth, providing ample opportunities for dreaded 'crotch rot.' Cotton also does not breath when it gets wet so any hope of ventilation is eliminated in hot/humid environments.

After numerous trials, I narrowed down my search for VENTILATION, SUPPORT & ANTI-CHAFE PROTECTION to 3 finalists.

UNDER ARMOR "Heat Gear" boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' Sport Mesh boxer-brief with 9" inseam

The clear winner of those 3 finalists was the EX-OFFICIO Sport Mesh Boxer-Brief wtih 9" inseam.
It has the most open fabric weave of any brand I tried. The longer inseam provided extra Anti-Chafe protection, but it also allowed the brief to hug the thighs over a larger surface area which minimized the fabric from riding up the leg and bunching in the privates region.

RUNNER - UP was the EX OFFICIO standard 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with a 6" inseam. NOT as breathable as the 'sport' version because it uses a different fabric. Also the legs tended to be slighlty more likely to ride up into the crotchal area and crush the junk.

LOSER BY A METRIC MILE: The UNDER ARMOR Heat Gear boxer briefs. These had a nice light fabric and provided a good amount of ventilation. They provided plent of supportive protection for the twig. But they had a smaller than average 'pouch' that tended to want to crush the berries. And by crush I do not mean like simply squeezing them in a vise, no, not that gentle. I mean like wanting them to be crushed by a hydraulic claw while simultaneously trying to stuff them back up inside your body cavity.

Others tested were not as good as these 3 so buyer beware. Clear winner was the pair the bottom of this photo.View attachment 20442
I think I wear a Scottish kilt next time
 
Icebreaker Merino Wool trunks. Like a boxer but closer fitting.
Getting the correct underwear which doesn't chafe is essential.
 
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Laugh out loud post! But I shall forward it on to my son who will appreciate your advice (he did Le tour du Mont Blanc last year) and knows what chafing is...
 
Laugh out loud post! But I shall forward it on to my son who will appreciate your advice (he did Le tour du Mont Blanc last year) and knows what chafing is...
YOU WERE WARNED



Icebreaker Merino Wool trunks. Like a boxer but closer fitting.
Getting the correct underwear which doesn't chafe is essential.
Yes, Icebreaker makes a 'Boxer Brief' style, which I did not test. But I believe that I was already testing the patience of my wife with the UPS truck showing up with 'intimate apparel' on a regular basis. Not really sure what my reputation is in the order fullfillment department at Amazon right now, but I suspect they must think I soil my shorts on a regular basis because of all the underwear they have delivered.

I have always wondered about Merino Wool underwear but once I got to the Ex Officio Sport Mesh 9" Inseam I knew I had found my 'intimates' nirvana.



I think I wear a Scottish kilt next time
I do have a pair of boxers with "Scotty Dogs" on them :D
 
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The focus is on reducing the risk of failure through being well prepared. 2nd ed.
What ever happened with the Eastbay men's compresion undies AnnieSantiago got us ladies to buy last winter? I made a mistake and bought the 5 inch, only afyer returning did I see they had longer ones. Light, fast drying. The Macabi skirt waist plus their waist is a bit much, but the undies are great. And a bargain if you live in the US. Sorry, was this thread only for those with twigs and berries ?
 
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Regarding chafing: how do you say "Boudreaux's Butt Paste" in Spanish?

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Have you ladies nothing better to do than read the details of a post clearly marked for men only?
Weird or what?
I'm sure there must be a moderation RULE dealing with this!! And if not, why not?

On a serious note, I did have a question of an intimate nature, but I will not now be posting it, as the ladies of the forum cannot allow gentlemen any privacy. I'm so disappointed.
Moderators please note.
 
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Feel free to be upset with the ladies that looked... but truth be told, ladies care about 'twigs and berries' too ... AND, we appreciate scientifically based and field tested information we can provide 'twig and berry' carriers .... because --> when said twig and berry carriers are whining from pain, we suffer too!
 
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No need to be embarrassed. I'm always on the lookout for good undergarments that wick and help me to prevent thigh chafing, not to mention pinecone and pine nut irritation. If the shy gentleman who took umbrage wants to feel less so, I would suggest that he consider that most women's undergarments are suitable in terms of fabric, but often very unsuitable in terms of thigh length and waist coverage.

In other words, we shop from your "Men" tab on the websites.

I would wager that most women on this site are shopping men's underwear much of the time. It's better quality.

I'm not shopping for "sexy" on the Camino. I'm shopping Merino Wool and comfort. Men's garb fills the bill, although we don't always fill the pouch!
 
I used trail running tights from First Ascent, and nothing else... For my entire Camino I did not once experience any chafing or discomfort of any kind. Very easy to clean and quick to dry as well. The fabric itself is elastane based and possess moisture management properties. In my opinion perfect for any kind aerobic activity. In my profile pic, I can be seen wearing a pair.
 
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I used trail running tights from First Ascent, and nothing else... For my entire Camino I did not once experience any chafing or discomfort of any kind. Very easy to clean and quick to dry as well. The fabric itself is elastane based and possess moisture management properties. In my opinion perfect for any kind aerobic activity. In my profile pic, I can be seen wearing a pair.
Very fetching 007. Amazing, still that most of those reading this thread seem to be the 'Ladies of the Forum'.
 
Wore Underarmour for 40 days. Never a problem. the ones with a 3" or 6" leg. No chafing.
UnderArmor brand is the one that came highly recommended, but the one that disappointed me the most. In the 'package' area it was just way too darn snug. And calling it snug is a massive understatement. The UnderArmor was comfortable while walking, but the moment you take a break and sit down is the moment that they seem to constrict. You end up reaching up your pant leg (easy enough if you are wearing shorts) to tug down on the legs of the UnderArmors to relieve the pressure that immediately builds up on your 'crotchoral region' and begins to cause pain.

I probably should have listed an HONORABLE MENTION to the NEW BALANCE brand of boxers with 3" inseam. They have a very nice fabric that seems to breathe well, but I didn't try their Boxer-Brief style. I've worn the New Balance boxers on hikes and thought they were very good, but as they were not snug to the thighs had some very minor chafing.

I should also point out that the WINNING choice of the EX-OFFICIO 9" inseam SPORT MESH Boxer Briefs don't seem to have a very durable fabric. Oh its durable enough for a Camino or other multi-week hike, but don't expect the fabric to hold up for a year, it seems to 'pill' under use with multiple washings. Not a serious problem but it doesn't look great and my guess is it may not hold up for long term. Its still worth it because of the ventilation and comfort.
 
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The focus is on reducing the risk of failure through being well prepared. 2nd ed.
UnderArmor brand is the one that came highly recommended, but the one that disappointed me the most. In the 'package' area it was just way too darn snug. And calling it snug is a massive understatement. The UnderArmor was comfortable while walking, but the moment you take a break and sit down is the moment that they seem to constrict. You end up reaching up your pant leg (easy enough if you are wearing shorts) to tug down on the legs of the UnderArmors to relieve the pressure that immediately builds up on your 'crotchoral region' and begins to cause pain..

Now you're just 'bragging' :oops:

But I have noticed getting 'caught up' a bit since my return from Camino. No problem at all during Camino. But I put that down to having gained 2-3 kgs............

I think the lesson from all of this, is that we are all different shapes and sizes. Body size! And therefore comfort will vary considerably person to person.

I guy I met whilst walking was having terrible chafing problems. He was wearing the 'brief' style underwear. I suggested he get some closer fitting boxer style, in a man made fabric, that had a reasonable length leg. Seemed to fix the problem......... All comes down to how hefty your legs are too.....
 
I wear the Under Armour mesh 6" boxer briefs. They are super comfortable. I don't find them too tight at all.
 

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Spelling time:
I had this back to front myself!!
Chaff is the throw away after you thresh your seed. "Separate the wheat from the chaff".
Chafe is to make sore by rubbing.
Now you know. As do I.
Sorry, is my pedant showing in this?
 
UnderArmor brand is the one that came highly recommended, but the one that disappointed me the most. In the 'package' area it was just way too darn snug. And calling it snug is a massive understatement. The UnderArmor was comfortable while walking, but the moment you take a break and sit down is the moment that they seem to constrict. You end up reaching up your pant leg (easy enough if you are wearing shorts) to tug down on the legs of the UnderArmors to relieve the pressure that immediately builds up on your 'crotchoral region' and begins to cause pain.

I probably should have listed an HONORABLE MENTION to the NEW BALANCE brand of boxers with 3" inseam. They have a very nice fabric that seems to breathe well, but I didn't try their Boxer-Brief style. I've worn the New Balance boxers on hikes and thought they were very good, but as they were not snug to the thighs had some very minor chafing.

I should also point out that the WINNING choice of the EX-OFFICIO 9" inseam SPORT MESH Boxer Briefs don't seem to have a very durable fabric. Oh its durable enough for a Camino or other multi-week hike, but don't expect the fabric to hold up for a year, it seems to 'pill' under use with multiple washings. Not a serious problem but it doesn't look great and my guess is it may not hold up for long term. Its still worth it because of the ventilation and comfort.
I was on holiday in Majorca in July this year and took the opportunity to try out various combinations for walking . The underwear I tried was merino wool boxer briefs and they were brilliant no chaffing and very cool to wear so that is what I'll take with me on casino.
 
Sorry, is my pedant showing in this?

NO NOT at all Bobcat 77 I couldn't see a THING!!! ;)
When I met Robo this Spring on Camino, I was wearing some very cool and non chafe silk jobs which held the twig and berries in place very well and dried out overnight, the silk jobs that is, Not my twig and berries, before you ask Bobcat77!!! :rolleyes:
 
The one from Galicia (the round) and the one from Castilla & Leon. Individually numbered and made by the same people that make the ones you see on your walk.
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In other words, we shop from your "Men" tab on the websites.
I would wager that most women on this site are shopping men's underwear much of the time. It's better quality.
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Sorry, but it has never even come to my mind to buy men's uderwear,... :(
To avoid thigh chafing, just need to wear any shorts, the cloth seperates the thighs.
As for twigs & berries that I can't say :oops:
 
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I was on holiday in Majorca in July this year and took the opportunity to try out various combinations for walking . The underwear I tried was merino wool boxer briefs and they were brilliant no chaffing and very cool to wear so that is what I'll take with me on casino.
Good look in the casino.
If you loose too much you could try a camino.o_O
 
I found an american company (nameless so not to promote) that makes bamboo boxer style that are snug and long enough on the leg. I wore them on the Primitivo for two weeks and then some. They dry quickly which was important since I sweat a lot (disadvantage of carrying extra body weight). My wife also had ladies bamboo boy shorts (their term not mine). Take a look, bamboo is an alternative to wool. My wife and I also wore long sleeve bamboo shirts which did not retain body odor and dried quickly. The long sleeves kept the sun off our arms.
 
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LADIES WARNING: contained in this thread may be more personal information and or discussions of the male anatomy than your delicate constitutions may endure, proceed at your own risk.

MEN: This is a serious thread, but clearly male sensibilities meet a somewhat lower bar than that of the ladies, still I encourage you all to keep this "family friendly" when you post.


There is yet another option, one that I came across by accident. A family member was immobile and incontinent. With the continence pads was also supplied a light-weight open weave elasticated cotton brief. The purpose of this brief is to help hold the pad in place without adding bulk or weight.IMG_20150824_070428.jpg IMG_20150824_070452.jpg

As I generate quite a bit of body heat when walking I found usual underwear, whether boxer or "snatchers", merino or cotton, soon became water-logged and most uncomfortable.

So I tried the continence pad support brief and found them most comfortable and most supportive. Because of the open weave any moisture evaporated as it formed, leaving me dry. And when I feel the crown jewels need protection from possible roughness I use a folded handkerchief.

And this solution is quite gender neutral.
 
I found an american company (nameless so not to promote) that makes bamboo boxer style that are snug and long enough on the leg. I wore them on the Primitivo for two weeks and then some. They dry quickly which was important since I sweat a lot (disadvantage of carrying extra body weight). My wife also had ladies bamboo boy shorts (their term not mine). Take a look, bamboo is an alternative to wool. My wife and I also wore long sleeve bamboo shirts which did not retain body odor and dried quickly. The long sleeves kept the sun off our arms.
One of the brands I tried, but was not happy with, was made from bamboo fiber. I will admit that I liked everything about that brand except for the fit. The fit just didn't work for me. The fabric was very good, not the best in terms of ventilation, but among the top 3 fabrics for ventilation, and it dried quickly.

It would have possibly ranked higher if it fit me better.

But yes, I will agree, Bamboo is a viable alternative.
 
I went with the Exoffico GiveNGo briefs, surprised I had no chaffing issues as I normally wear boxer-briefs. I did go commando for about 4 days to give relief to a small external hemorrhoid.
 
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Exofficio it's good dries faster but for comfort I have to vote for icebreaker trunk imho they both perform very well no chaffing, I always toke a little more precaution by using body glide on extreme hot days.

Zzotte
 
Exofficio it's good dries faster but for comfort I have to vote for icebreaker trunk imho they both perform very well no chaffing, I always toke a little more precaution by using body glide on extreme hot days.

Zzotte
Body Glide is great stuff. Works on inner thighs to help prevent chafe, also works on your feet to reduce the chances of blisters.
 
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Maybe I'm just getting old and mean, now that I'm on a pension, but isn't $20 to $40 excessive for undies and tees? Seems like a lot to me anyway... for a vest or pair of drawers!! Mind you, I can hear all you wiseacres out there telling me that 'twig and berries' are worth protecting. :oops:
 
I've been experimenting a little with brands from here in NZ, including Merino boxers from Icebreaker. I've found they get a little saggy after a couple of hours - the berries just don't get the support they deserve and need....:confused: macpac merinos are ok - just a little tight.o_O I haven't tried the Kathmandu ones, which have a little silk incorporated. They are just too expensive. I suspect I'll go with cheaper Jockey Performance boxers. All the others mentioned in this thread aren't very common here in New Zealand :(
 
Maybe I'm just getting old and mean, now that I'm on a pension, but isn't $20 to $40 excessive for undies and tees? Seems like a lot to me anyway... for a vest or pair of drawers!! Mind you, I can hear all you wiseacres out there telling me that 'twig and berries' are worth protecting. :oops:
I'm not a big fan of spending $20+ on a pair of boxers.

But a couple years ago I asked for a pair of ExOfficio boxers for Christmas. WOW, just WOW, the sky was bluer, the clouds puffier, the air cleaner, the water clearer. Birds were singing even more beautifully than normal and I saw a rainbow despite the fact that it had not rained, and then there was the unicorn I saw prancing in the field.

Yeah, they are THAT good.


Now for hiking I prefer the boxer-brief types because they prevent skin chafe.

So my 'unmentionable' drawer is now divided between my daily 'boxer' style ExOfficios and various brands of 'boxer-brief' undies reserved mostly for hiking.





I've been experimenting a little with brands from here in NZ, including Merino boxers from Icebreaker. I've found they get a little saggy after a couple of hours - the berries just don't get the support they deserve and need....:confused: macpac merinos are ok - just a little tight.o_O I haven't tried the Kathmandu ones, which have a little silk incorporated. They are just too expensive. I suspect I'll go with cheaper Jockey Performance boxers. All the others mentioned in this thread aren't very common here in New Zealand :(
And that was my concern with merino.

While I love merino and own many pieces of it, it does seem to deform, stretch out of shape, etc.
 
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Great post! Did you do any research on hiking pants? I just started training for my September 2016 Camino and was wondering what hiking pants I should purchase
 
Great post! Did you do any research on hiking pants? I just started training for my September 2016 Camino and was wondering what hiking pants I should purchase
I come to the Camino group from a history of wilderness hiking and I'm a fan of the lightweight synthetic hiking pants for warm weather, zip-off legs are silly looking but I think they are a functional option that I like in hot weather even if I rarely zip them off. Its just a nice option to have, and the weight penalty is minimal. Zippers at the ankles is also a nice feature on the zip-off pants so you can remove the pant legs over your hiking shoes.

As for brands/models that is always something that changes from year to year as rarely will your favorite pair be available for more than 1 or 2 years before some 'enhancement' is made, usually ruining them! Marmot, ExOfficio, REI and many other brands offer good hiking pants.

In cold wet weather go for WOOL pants!
 
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Thank you for the info...I will heck out those brands and purchase one pair of pants and see how they work for me
 
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when you walk as much as the camino with as little as possible on your back I think $20 for pair of undies its a good investment. It goes alone with good socks, shoes etc :)

Zzotte
 
when you walk as much as the camino with as little as possible on your back I think $20 for pair of undies its a good investment. It goes alone with good socks, shoes etc :)

Zzotte
I would agree.

When on any long distance walk/hike I think it is important that you buy gear that will last for the entire journey. What good are socks that wear out every 250 miles? Tight shoes that cause blisters? Rain gear that makes you sweat so you get wet from the inside out? Or underwear that bunches up or causes painful chafe?

Spending $40 to $50 for a couple pairs of super powered briefs that allow you to run faster, jump higher and generally feel more comfortable than bargain 'drawers' that retain sweat, hold bacteria and cause chafe seems like a wise investment in gear.

Just do a search on backpacks here. There are dozens of threads, thousands of posts on the topic . . . but very few discussions of the singular garment that protects the most precious cargo men carry.
 
"Super powered briefs that allow me run faster, jump higher ... "
Just what I need ... At 66
Seriously though, I take your point! Thanks guys. I appreciate your care for my 'precious cargo'.
Some great phrases coming from this thread!!!
 
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I took these Uniqlo briefs on my last camino and loved them.
http://www.uniqlo.com/us/product/me...men/underwear-and-socks/boxer-briefs/airism/~

They are much lighter than Exofficio shorts and not so long as to bind on your thigh like compression shorts do.

I wear these, Exofficio briefs, and REI brand on a weekly basis due to traveling, and I prefer the Uniqlo, hands down. Mine have lasted through the 3 years of weekly wear with no pilling or holes.image.jpg
 
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Hey Kanga,
you were warned! Anyway, Us men have to read detailed discussions of women's unmentionables every time we pick up anything in dentists waiting room or in our Sunday papers and magazines... Agh .
There's loads of other threads you can read. Away with you, girl!!
R
 
Such unashamed flaunting of unmentionables. Its enough to scare the horses.
Indeed, we can't have our horses being frightened in the streets. I would suggest gentlemen refrain from removing their trousers whilst in traffic.
 
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My complaint about the synthetic boxer briefs is that the pouch is either not supportive or squeezes too tight. I've worn a synthetic boxer on hikes before, but I got a wedgie in the back.

My other concern is getting up in the middle of the night in mixed company to use the bathroom without showing off a common male morning "situation"

So what are the bathrooms like in most Albergues?
 
I thought I was going to have to abandon five days out of Porto. Horrendous chaffing
injuries. Thank goodness for Savlon. Four weeks later and I'm still struggling.

I know we're taking it in a light hearted way, but this is starting to get me down.
I'm walking down the street looking like John Wayne !
 
I did the Primitivo this past September/October - coolish mornings but warm humid afternoons, plus two days of hard rain at the end. I wore Ibex woolies 150 boxer briefs and loved them! They held up well (no stretching or wedgies) to the rigors of 25-30km day. I also wore a light (smartwool or icebreaker 150) wool long sleeve undershirt every day. The combination of wool underthings kept me warm in the morning, breathed and wicked very well during the day, and dried quickly in the evening. Neither the briefs nor the tees held on to body odor, so wearing two days in a row was not a problem. Merino rocks!
 
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@Papist Giant , too funny, I had never thought about men's morning rising issues. Of course, I'm a girl so ...

Now what a bathrooms like? Two kinds, communal, or singles, communals mostly is larger albergues. Od those 50-50: segregated or not. Communal ones are the ones to talk about: all with single toilets, in a stall, thank heavens, but you may find the odd one with communal showers, or individual showers in transparent glass enclosures. I would say that 80% of the stall showers are either large enough for you to change in, sometimes with some sorst of barrier to keep your clothes dry. So you will never be exposimg yourself to the ladies.

Of course this does not solve your problem of getting to the bathroom in the morning while ... In a state :confused:.
 
Clutch your towel and toilet bag tightly to your breast ... well, lower, actually ... much lower.... Maintain that sleepy, don't- want- to- wake- up- yet look and you'll manage your 'situation' just fine. Problems problems. You won't be the only guy around.
 
Such a humorous topic, but the truth is, it is important. I tried a couple brands before I left and found I like the ExOfficio boxer-briefs a lot. Supportive, without crushing, and long enough to prevent chafing. When I started it was still winter so I wore Smart Wool super light weight merino wool long johns. They were warm, but after the first day I ended up wearing the boxer-briefs under them. They just didn't feel right, but were comfortable enough that I want to try a pair of Icebreakers. Those Uniqlos look promising, I may check a pair out. Thanks for the tip.

Special tip for the guys: If you choose any of the light weight wool long johns DO NOT try to pull them on like you would a normal pair of pants or you WILL rip them. I'm sure women will say "duh", but men don't normally deal with putting on leg hugging, thin fabric. Thankfully, I brought needle & thread.
 
The one from Galicia (the round) and the one from Castilla & Leon. Individually numbered and made by the same people that make the ones you see on your walk.
Sorry to chime in, I know I shouldn't ... But it is just great to read about a 'male only topic' for once when we had so many 'only girly topics' in the past. You go rock walk guys! Buen Camino! SY
 
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Here is a listing of hiking underwear, with pros and cons. And LADIES, there is a link at the link below, that reviews LADIES unmentionables :oops:

http://besthiking.net/best-hiking-underwear-2015/

A small portion of the article, but for specifics about each of the brands go to the link above.

1. Buying Hiking Underwear – What is important?

Material:
The material must be comfortable and capable to prevent rubbing and chafing. Hiking underwear must also maintain your body’s natural temperature. Therefore, materials like Merino wool, Nylon and Lycra should be used. These materials are quick drying, breathable, light and comfortable.
Flatlock seams:
Hiking underwear should have flatlock seams because they increase comfort, unlike normal seams which can chafe your skin by rubbing against it repeatedly.
Antimicrobial:
Hiking underwear must be antimicrobial. This means your underwear will remain fresh after days of use. Some materials, like Merino wool, have natural antimicrobial properties. Other materials, like polyester, are usually treated to provide antimicrobial properties.
Durability:
Hiking underwear should maintain its properties after regular washing.

2. The Best Hiking Underwear in 2015 Review

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The Best Hiking Underwear in 2015

  1. SmartWool Microweight Boxers
  2. Icebreaker BodyFit 200 Oasis Boxers
  3. Helly Hansen Warm Boxers
  4. ExOfficio Give-N-Go Mesh Sport Boxers
  5. Under Armour Original Boxers

 
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One of the other factors to consider in selecting synthetic versus Merino is whether the antimicrobial treatment will break down if washed and dried repeatedly at too high a temp (most will). Also, they can break down with harsher, general purpose detergents. Once the antimicrobial treatment loses effectiveness, "funk" sets in and can only be removed by soaks in enzymatic fabric cleaners like Resolve/Spray-and-Wash, which may not be available. Hot washes may help, but may further impact the fabric. This may not become a major issue with a single Camino, but if you regularly use these for backpacking or multiple Caminos, it can add up. Bottom line in my opinion---the Camino is no place to take clothes you have to baby.

Since I can't always control what's available to me (detergents, water temps, dryer temps) on the Camino, I err on the side of handling a wide range of conditions. I only use Merino boxer-briefs and socks for backpacking because the antimicrobial qualities are inherent to the fabric and don't break down. I'll go either way with tee shirts, usually with a merino/tech blend. But, my outer layer is almost always a synthetic tech fabric because they need to be rugged enough to handle branches/thorns/rocks, and these fabrics definitely lose antimicrobial properties over time under regular washing conditions. Since antimicrobial control is most important next to the skin, and durability on the outer shell, this arrangement strikes a happy medium and ensures I get the greatest life out of each type of clothing.
 
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LADIES WARNING: contained in this thread may be more personal information and or discussions of the male anatomy than your delicate constitutions may endure, proceed at your own risk.

MEN: This is a serious thread, but clearly male sensibilities meet a somewhat lower bar than that of the ladies, still I encourage you all to keep this "family friendly" when you post.


Unless I am totally clueless we men may choose to hike/walk/wander wearing 'boxers,' 'briefs,' the new 'boxer brief' or nothing at all (aka 'Commando').

In my normal non-walkabout life I generally prefer the loose fit of the 'boxers' which allows for massive airflow and ventilation of the boys, but when I am on a hike or a long walk, the option of some support for the twig & berries, combined with the reality of chafing of the thighs, leads me to the 'boxer-brief' hybrid undergarments. This is especially so in hot & humid conditions.

Being a certifiable (actually my mom had me tested and I'm technically not 'certifiable' but my wife debates that point) "gear junkie" I tend to buy, test, try, and generally abuse as many different types of gear as I can afford.

Here are my conclusions:


    • If you WANT SUPPORT then "briefs" or "Boxer-Briefs" will fullfill your needs, but all are not created equally.
    • If you WANT PROTECTION from chafing then "Boxer-Briefs" may be your inner thighs new best friends.
    • If you WANT maximum VENTILATION then "Boxers" are the clear choice, but not all are created equally.
    • If you WANT VENTILATION + SUPPORT + PROTECTION from chafing then the newest high tech fabrics, in "Boxer-Brief" cut, with 9" inseams are your best choice.
DISCLAIMER: I did NOT test any of the MERINO WOOL undergarments.

First, and most obvious, observation: COTTON (or COTON) is the worst possible choice for undergarments.
It retains moisture, which yields a wonderful enviornment for bacterial growth, providing ample opportunities for dreaded 'crotch rot.' Cotton also does not breath when it gets wet so any hope of ventilation is eliminated in hot/humid environments.

After numerous trials, I narrowed down my search for VENTILATION, SUPPORT & ANTI-CHAFE PROTECTION to 3 finalists.

UNDER ARMOR "Heat Gear" boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' Sport Mesh boxer-brief with 9" inseam

The clear winner of those 3 finalists was the EX-OFFICIO Sport Mesh Boxer-Brief wtih 9" inseam.
It has the most open fabric weave of any brand I tried. The longer inseam provided extra Anti-Chafe protection, but it also allowed the brief to hug the thighs over a larger surface area which minimized the fabric from riding up the leg and bunching in the privates region. There is just enough crotatorial support to keep your personal gear in place but no so much as you need to reach down to make adjustments or alter yourself for comfort.

RUNNER - UP was the EX OFFICIO standard 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with a 6" inseam. NOT as breathable as the 'sport' version because it uses a different fabric. Also the legs tended to be slighlty more likely to ride up into the crotchal area and crush the junk. The gripage of the package offers only modest support and allows for some free willy movement, providing a casual and comfortable environment for the fellas.

LOSER BY A METRIC MILE: The UNDER ARMOR Heat Gear boxer briefs. These had a nice light fabric and provided a good amount of ventilation. They provided plent of supportive protection for the twig. But they had a smaller than average 'pouch' that tended to want to crush the berries. And by crush I do not mean like simply squeezing them in a vise, no, not that gentle. I mean like wanting them to be crushed by a hydraulic claw while simultaneously trying to stuff them back up inside your body cavity.

Others tested were not as good as these 3 so buyer beware. Clear winner was the pair the bottom of this photo.View attachment 20442





I only prefer boxer and briefs. So I agree with your statement that, they(boxer underwears) are good for ventilation.
 
Most of the posts above are four years old but the last one was done today and brought this thread to my attention. All I want to say here is that the well reviewed (but expensive) ExOfficio Give n Go boxer briefs can sometimes be found at Costco stores in packs of three for a bit less than what you pay for just one in some sports stores.
 
I always prefer to walk without any underwear, I only use a very thing layer of Monkey Butt Powder in all the critical areas. Is like air conditioning!

it never fails with me!
 

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LADIES WARNING: contained in this thread may be more personal information and or discussions of the male anatomy than your delicate constitutions may endure, proceed at your own risk.

MEN: This is a serious thread, but clearly male sensibilities meet a somewhat lower bar than that of the ladies, still I encourage you all to keep this "family friendly" when you post.


Unless I am totally clueless we men may choose to hike/walk/wander wearing 'boxers,' 'briefs,' the new 'boxer brief' or nothing at all (aka 'Commando').

In my normal non-walkabout life I generally prefer the loose fit of the 'boxers' which allows for massive airflow and ventilation of the boys, but when I am on a hike or a long walk, the option of some support for the twig & berries, combined with the reality of chafing of the thighs, leads me to the 'boxer-brief' hybrid undergarments. This is especially so in hot & humid conditions.

Being a certifiable (actually my mom had me tested and I'm technically not 'certifiable' but my wife debates that point) "gear junkie" I tend to buy, test, try, and generally abuse as many different types of gear as I can afford.

Here are my conclusions:


    • If you WANT SUPPORT then "briefs" or "Boxer-Briefs" will fullfill your needs, but all are not created equally.
    • If you WANT PROTECTION from chafing then "Boxer-Briefs" may be your inner thighs new best friends.
    • If you WANT maximum VENTILATION then "Boxers" are the clear choice, but not all are created equally.
    • If you WANT VENTILATION + SUPPORT + PROTECTION from chafing then the newest high tech fabrics, in "Boxer-Brief" cut, with 9" inseams are your best choice.
DISCLAIMER: I did NOT test any of the MERINO WOOL undergarments.

First, and most obvious, observation: COTTON (or COTON) is the worst possible choice for undergarments.
It retains moisture, which yields a wonderful enviornment for bacterial growth, providing ample opportunities for dreaded 'crotch rot.' Cotton also does not breath when it gets wet so any hope of ventilation is eliminated in hot/humid environments.

After numerous trials, I narrowed down my search for VENTILATION, SUPPORT & ANTI-CHAFE PROTECTION to 3 finalists.

UNDER ARMOR "Heat Gear" boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' Sport Mesh boxer-brief with 9" inseam

The clear winner of those 3 finalists was the EX-OFFICIO Sport Mesh Boxer-Brief wtih 9" inseam.
It has the most open fabric weave of any brand I tried. The longer inseam provided extra Anti-Chafe protection, but it also allowed the brief to hug the thighs over a larger surface area which minimized the fabric from riding up the leg and bunching in the privates region. There is just enough crotatorial support to keep your personal gear in place but no so much as you need to reach down to make adjustments or alter yourself for comfort.

RUNNER - UP was the EX OFFICIO standard 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with a 6" inseam. NOT as breathable as the 'sport' version because it uses a different fabric. Also the legs tended to be slighlty more likely to ride up into the crotchal area and crush the junk. The gripage of the package offers only modest support and allows for some free willy movement, providing a casual and comfortable environment for the fellas.

LOSER BY A METRIC MILE: The UNDER ARMOR Heat Gear boxer briefs. These had a nice light fabric and provided a good amount of ventilation. They provided plent of supportive protection for the twig. But they had a smaller than average 'pouch' that tended to want to crush the berries. And by crush I do not mean like simply squeezing them in a vise, no, not that gentle. I mean like wanting them to be crushed by a hydraulic claw while simultaneously trying to stuff them back up inside your body cavity.

Others tested were not as good as these 3 so buyer beware. Clear winner was the pair the bottom of this photo.View attachment 20442


Sir, never in my 82m years have I heard of the crotatorial support! Paradoxically I use cotton briefs in summer and switch to Rab boxers for winter. as for twigs and berries, would that I had known of these descriptions when I was in her Majesty's Royal Navy :) :)

What about the chain-mail nappies?

:):):)

Yours aye,

The Malingerer!
 
Most of the posts above are four years old but the last one was done today and brought this thread to my attention. All I want to say here is that the well reviewed (but expensive) ExOfficio Give n Go boxer briefs can sometimes be found at Costco stores in packs of three for a bit less than what you pay for just one in some sports stores.

Ex Officio tighty-whities - best trekking underwear ever! Accept no substitutes! :)
 
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LADIES WARNING: contained in this thread may be more personal information and or discussions of the male anatomy than your delicate constitutions may endure, proceed at your own risk.

MEN: This is a serious thread, but clearly male sensibilities meet a somewhat lower bar than that of the ladies, still I encourage you all to keep this "family friendly" when you post.


Unless I am totally clueless we men may choose to hike/walk/wander wearing 'boxers,' 'briefs,' the new 'boxer brief' or nothing at all (aka 'Commando').

In my normal non-walkabout life I generally prefer the loose fit of the 'boxers' which allows for massive airflow and ventilation of the boys, but when I am on a hike or a long walk, the option of some support for the twig & berries, combined with the reality of chafing of the thighs, leads me to the 'boxer-brief' hybrid undergarments. This is especially so in hot & humid conditions.

Being a certifiable (actually my mom had me tested and I'm technically not 'certifiable' but my wife debates that point) "gear junkie" I tend to buy, test, try, and generally abuse as many different types of gear as I can afford.

Here are my conclusions:


    • If you WANT SUPPORT then "briefs" or "Boxer-Briefs" will fullfill your needs, but all are not created equally.
    • If you WANT PROTECTION from chafing then "Boxer-Briefs" may be your inner thighs new best friends.
    • If you WANT maximum VENTILATION then "Boxers" are the clear choice, but not all are created equally.
    • If you WANT VENTILATION + SUPPORT + PROTECTION from chafing then the newest high tech fabrics, in "Boxer-Brief" cut, with 9" inseams are your best choice.
DISCLAIMER: I did NOT test any of the MERINO WOOL undergarments.

First, and most obvious, observation: COTTON (or COTON) is the worst possible choice for undergarments.
It retains moisture, which yields a wonderful enviornment for bacterial growth, providing ample opportunities for dreaded 'crotch rot.' Cotton also does not breath when it gets wet so any hope of ventilation is eliminated in hot/humid environments.

After numerous trials, I narrowed down my search for VENTILATION, SUPPORT & ANTI-CHAFE PROTECTION to 3 finalists.

UNDER ARMOR "Heat Gear" boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with 6" inseams
EX OFFICIO 'Give n Go' Sport Mesh boxer-brief with 9" inseam

The clear winner of those 3 finalists was the EX-OFFICIO Sport Mesh Boxer-Brief wtih 9" inseam.
It has the most open fabric weave of any brand I tried. The longer inseam provided extra Anti-Chafe protection, but it also allowed the brief to hug the thighs over a larger surface area which minimized the fabric from riding up the leg and bunching in the privates region. There is just enough crotatorial support to keep your personal gear in place but no so much as you need to reach down to make adjustments or alter yourself for comfort.

RUNNER - UP was the EX OFFICIO standard 'Give n Go' boxer-brief with a 6" inseam. NOT as breathable as the 'sport' version because it uses a different fabric. Also the legs tended to be slighlty more likely to ride up into the crotchal area and crush the junk. The gripage of the package offers only modest support and allows for some free willy movement, providing a casual and comfortable environment for the fellas.

LOSER BY A METRIC MILE: The UNDER ARMOR Heat Gear boxer briefs. These had a nice light fabric and provided a good amount of ventilation. They provided plent of supportive protection for the twig. But they had a smaller than average 'pouch' that tended to want to crush the berries. And by crush I do not mean like simply squeezing them in a vise, no, not that gentle. I mean like wanting them to be crushed by a hydraulic claw while simultaneously trying to stuff them back up inside your body cavity.

Others tested were not as good as these 3 so buyer beware. Clear winner was the pair the bottom of this photo.

This is an ancient thread, but friction will be with us forever.

I have no fixed opinion on the matter of undergarments, other than that I think they are more advisable than not, but I do have a product to recommend from personal experience.

A small business in the north of England sells ‘grizzly active’ in small sachets. It is a soothing lubricant for one’s ‘junk’, a sovereign cure for monkey butt, chef’s arse and other friction or moisture related gentlemens’ trouser contents issues.

(oh, and The Malingerer - the Andrew? I am disappointed. I wrongly assumed from your written demeanour that you would have been army.)
 
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Sir. There are no Malingerers in the British army ;)

I cite the only known treatise: https://watermark.silverchair.com/m...eklcBMS_fn3A9nc9AuzmVKfz3wOieQ1cunH1Cp94hjJwM
I beg to differ!

I was briefly, and without distinction, commissioned into the British Army in the mid 1980s. Apart from an occasion when I apparently invaded Guatemala under arms and two others when I came under fire from the two opposing factions in Northern Ireland - which did cause me to question what role I was playing in the affair - nothing of note occurred.

A medical officer did show me a 1950’s army prescription pad which had only four possible dispensations for those misguided enough to report for sick parade:

Pills A
Pills B
Excused boots
Malingering

QED
 
UnderArmor brand is the one that came highly recommended, but the one that disappointed me the most. In the 'package' area it was just way too darn snug. And calling it snug is a massive understatement. The UnderArmor was comfortable while walking, but the moment you take a break and sit down is the moment that they seem to constrict. You end up reaching up your pant leg (easy enough if you are wearing shorts) to tug down on the legs of the UnderArmors to relieve the pressure that immediately builds up on your 'crotchoral region' and begins to cause pain.

I probably should have listed an HONORABLE MENTION to the NEW BALANCE brand of boxers with 3" inseam. They have a very nice fabric that seems to breathe well, but I didn't try their Boxer-Brief style. I've worn the New Balance boxers on hikes and thought they were very good, but as they were not snug to the thighs had some very minor chafing.

I should also point out that the WINNING choice of the EX-OFFICIO 9" inseam SPORT MESH Boxer Briefs don't seem to have a very durable fabric. Oh its durable enough for a Camino or other multi-week hike, but don't expect the fabric to hold up for a year, it seems to 'pill' under use with multiple washings. Not a serious problem but it doesn't look great and my guess is it may not hold up for long term. Its still worth it because of the ventilation and comfort.

I believe "package area" is as different for one to another as there are stones on the camino. I have no "package" to contend with, but have purchased and used men's exofficio 9" boxers to use to sleep in at alburgues. In colder months I wear merino leggings, but in hot summer months I prefer to be cool and less 'covered' by blankets, etc...the boxers are modest enough and ultralight and cool. I think they should come in a nice floral...lol
 
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I wear compression shorts something like these, no-name brand, cheap as chips on special:

The are good enough and seem to absorb the odd leakage very well but after about 10 days for my skin to harden up I didn't have any problems with chafeing what ever I wore.
 

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