Suseya or Suseia??

[Brendan@ProjectCamino]

Hi all,

Does anyone know what the correct spelling is??

Suseya or Suseia??

I have read it spelled both ways, so was hoping someone could help clear this up.

Also, does anyone know where in Santiago this picture was taken??



Thanks,

Brendan.

 

[Kaiur]

https://www.ultreyatours.com/blog/the-meaning-of-ultreya-suseya-santiago-de-compostela/

I personally think that the correct way to write it now would be Ultreia et Suseia

 

[Pelegrin]

I am not sure but in Spanish the pronunciation is different and Suseia would be the right one because Suseya sounds similar to Susella .

 

[Kaiur]

And that picture is fake, here the original (Bayeux, Normandie)

http://a136.idata.over-blog.com/3/19/10/25/Normandy-2/240-Fresco--Notre-Dame-Cathedral--Bayeux.JPG

https://flic.kr/p/7ZC58S

 

[Brendan@ProjectCamino]

And that picture is fake, here the original (Bayeux, Normandie)

http://a136.idata.over-blog.com/3/19/10/25/Normandy-2/240-Fresco--Notre-Dame-Cathedral--Bayeux.JPG

https://flic.kr/p/7ZC58S

Thanks for the information and head sup, much appreciated!

 

[Kathar1na]

And that picture is fake, here the original (Bayeux, Normandie)
http://a136.idata.over-blog.com/3/19/10/25/Normandy-2/240-Fresco--Notre-Dame-Cathedral--Bayeux.JPG

https://flic.kr/p/7ZC58S

Well done!!! How did you find this? Google images did not come up with anything for me.

 

[Kaiur]

Well done!!! How did you find this? Google images did not come up with anything for me.

Good luck mostly

 

[Purky]

How did you find this? Google images did not come up with anything for me.

Probably by using Tineye reverse image search. That is how I sometimes search for info: upload an image on Tineye and hopefully it will come up with enough alternatives/information to figure out what is what.

 

[Kathar1na]

Tineye reverse image search

Bingo, they had it plus another doctored image of the original Bayeux fresco, it seems. Many many thanks, I didn't know about the Tineye site. I'm always keen on stuff that leads me back to the source.

 

[Deleted member 3000]

Xunta or junta?

 

[nycwalking]

Xunta or junta?

Both: xunta is a Galician word, junta Spanish.

 

[Kaiur]

Xunta or junta?

"Xunta" (Galician language), "Junta" (spanish).

The pronunciation is different. Referring the galician government, normally is said "Xunta" even in spanish

 

[Kathar1na]

Xunta or junta?

I'm not a native English speaker - we are talking about spelling in an English language context here, right? - but I thought the answer is obvious: in English, it's Xunta (de Galicia) and all the others are juntas.

 

[HaraldS]

The correct spelling is "suseia", see https://la.m.wikisource.org/wiki/Dum_pater_familias

 

[Kathar1na]

the correct spelling

More seriously, it's like asking whether you spell a similar call in English like "heya" or "hey ya". Neither ultreia nur suseia are a word in any known language, and contrary to what one often reads, it's not even certain that it comes from Latin.

 

[Deleted member 3000]

More seriously, it's like asking whether you spell a similar call in English like "heya" or "hey ya". Neither ultreia nur suseia are a word in any known language, and contrary to what one often reads, it's not even certain that it comes from Latin.

Irony may be dead in the Forum ...

 

[Pelegrin]

I'm not a native English speaker - we are talking about spelling in an English language context here, right? - but I thought the answer is obvious: in English, it's Xunta (de Galicia) and all the others are juntas.

Yes, if you say Junta can be Andalucia, Extremadura, Castilla León and Castilla-La Mancha but not Galicia that is Xunta.

 

[Kaiur]

..., it's not even certain that it comes from Latin.

Interensting.......from where or what could derive?

 

[Deleted member 3000]

Ultreia or ultreya!

 

[Kaiur]

Ultreia or ultreya!

Or Ultrella, Ultreja, Ultretja, UltreÏa....

 

[Kathar1na]

Irony may be dead in the Forum ...

I did put a big smilie at the end of my reply.

Plus, I did actually get curious about it but that's just because I know from a previous life that it can be very important to native speaker minorities how certain names, words, place names are written/expressed in dominant languages. In this context, I once had to work through a whole night because I had no inkling beforehand of the amount of work waiting for me - and it did actually involve Spain. Maybe I've not yet shaken off this trauma .

 

[nycwalking]

Irony may be dead in the Forum ...

And, that's ironic.

 

[tpmchugh]

Hi all,

Does anyone know what the correct spelling is??

Suseya or Suseia??

I have read it spelled both ways, so was hoping someone could help clear this up.

Also, does anyone know where in Santiago this picture was taken??

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Thanks,

Brendan.

Have seen both words spelt differently so guess either spelling is fine ie ultreia e suseia Who knows

 

[HaraldS]

Does anyone know what the correct spelling is?? Suseya or Suseia?? I have read it spelled both ways, so was hoping someone could help clear this up.

My first answer ("The correct spelling is "suseia"") wasn't complete, as I found out. There is no single spelling, but three different ones in the Codex Calixtinus (from ca.1140), where the words are originally taken from:

• in book 1, chapter 26 it's suseia, ultreia
• in the appendix 1 within the hymnus "Ad honorem regis summi it's E ultreia esus eia
• in the appendix 2 within the chant "Dum pater familias" it's E ultreia, e suseia

So it's up to you which spelling you choose. The spelling with y instead of i is obviously a spanish variant.

Harald

 

[Kathar1na]

three different ones in the Codex Calixtinus [...]

• in book 1, chapter 26 it's suseia, ultreia
• in the appendix 1 within the hymnus "Ad honorem regis summi it's E ultreia esus eia
• in the appendix 2 within the chant "Dum pater familias" it's E ultreia, e suseia

Thanks, this is the first time that I see a direct reference to this second text position in the codex, ie the Ad honorem hymn! And I now see that it says "e ultreia esus eia decantemus iugiter" in the text of this hymn ... "e ultreia esus eia we sing forever". Makes me wonder whether the expression has any more significance than say "eia popeia" (I'm sure you'll get this, @HaraldS ).