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My impressions after three weeks

eamann

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My intention was to share these impressions with you from my very first day in the Pyrenees, but for reasons that you can imagine, I never had the time nor the energy to do so. Hence it is only now that I am home from my three-week long walk, that I am posting my experiences.

I left SJPdP on 7 September and finished in León on 28 September. I had already walked the Camino francés in 2005, 2013 and 2018.

The long and detailed report by Gerald Kelly sometime ago covers very completely all that I would have wished to have said. I shall limit my remarks therefore to confirming some of the points he made.

First of all, the number of pilgrims. There were obviously many less pilgrims than in previous years. But I never had the impression that I was alone, except when I started off in the morning much later than the other walkers.

On the other hand, cafés where in previous years I had difficulty finding a seat, this time round generally had free tables, but were never empty.

Hornillos del Camino was like a ghost town in the early evening, not a soul to be seen.

When I walked along the Calle de la Santa Maria in Viana in 2018, I recognised at least half a dozen friends sitting in cafés along this main street in the historic heart of the town. This year, I found that there were fewer cafés open, fewer people sitting at tables in the street and no one that I recognised…

Secondly I got the impression that many more pilgrims were booking ahead, some (unwisely in my opinion) for their entire walk. I reserved beds for the first week and then continued to reserve three or four days in advance for the rest of my Camino.

For various reasons I wanted a private room, if possible in an albergue rather than an hostal, so as to maintain contact with the other people on the trail. There are not many individual rooms in albergues and yet I did not have trouble finding accommodation until after Burgos. From there to Sahagûn I had to juggle dates and make some compromises.

This may have been because there were more people walking from Burgos. But it may also have been because from Burgos onwards I came across several Spanish groups of about a dozen people, one of them accompanied by a bus.

In general I got the impression that beds in dormitories were available in most places.

As has been said many times on the Forum, do not rely on Booking.com or on the availability facility on Gronze, which is based on Booking.com. These gave me the impression, for example, that there were few places available in Sahagún, but when I arrived there I realised that several establishments were half empty. It is always better to contact albergues and hostales directly.

Apart from the groups I have just mentioned, Spaniards seemed to be a small minority of those walking. North Americans, Canadians, and Australians were present, but in (much) smaller numbers than in previous years.

Another trend which I noticed and which will I think become stronger in future years is having one’s backpack (or even suitcase(s)!) transported from one place to another.

As regards the covid virus, I never heard of anyone becoming infected. Spanish statistics show that prevalence of the virus is declining. If you are in reasonably good health - which is probably the case if you are contemplating walking the Camino - have no major underlying illnesses, and maintain a strong immunity, you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Finally may I say that I have been repeatedly appalled by the fact that most pilgrims make no serious effort to learn a little Spanish and know next to nothing about Spanish history, geography, culture and society. If intending pilgrims were to read a book or use the internet to familiarise themselves just a little with past and present-day Spain, not only would it enrich their experience of walking a Camino, but it would also facilitate their day-to-day life, e.g., understanding and adapting to the hours when Spanish shops are open for business, realising that there are more public holidays in Spain than most other countries, etc..

Even though it is almost the end of the season for walking to Santiago I hope that these remarks will be of some use to those who do so.
 
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Thanks for the summary report! it was quite informative. It is interesting to note that the first half of the Camino Frances is normally dominated by non-Spaniards - especially in September and May - and this is true this year as well.

As has been said many times on the Forum, do not rely on Booking.com or on the availability facility on Gronze, which is based on Booking.com.
You reminded us, rightly, that people should not rely on Booking.com for availability. I'd like to clarify a small point - Gronze doesn't actually provide availability information "based on Booking". It doesn't track or report availability except to say if the place is open or closed. Rather, Gronze gives links to other sites (e.g. Booking, or the lodging website) that are responsible for whatever information they choose to provide.
 
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Finally may I say that I have been repeatedly appalled by the fact that most pilgrims make no serious effort to learn a little Spanish and know next to nothing about Spanish history, geography, culture and society. If intending pilgrims were to read a book or use the internet to familiarise themselves just a little with past and present-day Spain, not only would it enrich their experience of walking a Camino, but it would also facilitate their day-to-day life, e.g., understanding and adapting to the hours when Spanish shops are open for business, realising that there are more public holidays in Spain than most other countries, etc..
Well said based on some other recent threads.
 
Rather, Gronze gives links to other sites (e.g. Booking, or the lodging website) that are responsible for whatever information they choose to provide.
And Gronze pockets a little commission whenever anyone books through the booking link on Gronze. I guess if you’re going to use booking.com, it’s nice to spread some of the commission wealth around, especially to a helpful site like Gronze.

Edited to add: I did not mean for this comment to be taken as an endorsement of booking.com. I agree with those who say the absolute best way to go is to contact the business directly, to avoid the stiff commissions for the business.

BUT, I know there are forum members who are big fans of booking.com and use it whenever they can, despite our pleas to the contrary. Given that fact, my suggestion is that if you are going to use booking.com anyway, going to gronze or WisePilgrim and booking it through their site spreads the commission around a bit. That’s a good thing, because these two sites provide tremendous services to pilgrims and the forum.
 
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And Gronze pockets a little commission whenever anyone books through the booking link on Gronze. I guess if you’re going to use booking.com, it’s nice to spread some of the commission wealth around, especially to a helpful site like Gronze.
You can also reserve a bed directly with the albergue/hostel where you want to stay. Brings them more money bc not having to pay booking fees to the booking websites. In addition, they will have full control of their capasity, while sites like booking.com (I like them) do not neccessarily show the true number of beds available. They only dispose of a limited number of beds.
 
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You can also reserve a bed directly with the albergue/hostel where you want to stay. Brings them more money bc not having to pay booking fees to the booking websites. In addition, they will have full control of their capasity, while sites like booking.com (I like them) do not neccessarily show the true number of beds available. They only dispose of a limited number of beds.
Totally agree that the best thing to do is book directly and avoid commissions altogether. I was only saying that if you are committed to using Booking.com, as many forum members are for a variety of reasons, then getting to it through the Gronze link or the WisePilgrim link (or any others) takes a little of the commission away from Booking and gives it to the owners of those websites. Both of whom are providing a tremendous service to us all.
 
From my experience as an albergue owner, Booking.com takes a 15% commission so albergues factor that into the price given on that site.

As @alexwalker stated, booking directly is always cheaper and I personally preferred having direct contact with the pilgrim. That way I could ask approximate time of arrival, whether there were special needs and whether they would be joining us for dinner.
 
For various reasons I wanted a private room, if possible in an albergue rather than an hostal, so as to maintain contact with the other people on the trail. There are not many individual rooms in albergues and yet I did not have trouble finding accommodation until after Burgos. From there to Sahagûn I had to juggle dates and make some compromises.
Thank you for posting your impressions and this bit of information was very useful to me. I've never done the Camino before and was wondering if albergues even offered private rooms. Apparently some do on a limited basis. Good to know. I suspect that in May 2022 when I do the Camino the numbers of pilgrims will be higher than you experienced. Good for developing new friends, not so good for finding accommodations. I suspect there will be more albergues open in 2022, so hopefully it will be a draw.
 
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Totally agree that the best thing to do is book directly and avoid commissions altogether. I was only saying that if you are committed to using Booking.com, as many forum members are for a variety of reasons, then getting to it through the Gronze link or the WisePilgrim link (or any others) takes a little of the commission away from Booking and gives it to the owners of those websites. Both of whom are providing a tremendous service to us all.
I use the Wise Pilgrim guide. Yes, it has links to booking.com, but also phone numbers to (mostly all) places. I can understand that pilgrims with limited knowledge of the Spanish language appreciate using bokking sites in English. For me, however, it is easy to call each place and speak to them (In Spanish) directly. I have also on several/many occasions found that it is much appreciated, and sort of connects me "closer" to a particular albergue/hostal before arrival. If you know what I mean.

Edit: Most websites are running affiliate programs. So does f.ex. booking.com too. Also various apps. It works like this: A travel site (or app) that links to f.ex.booking.com, receives a commission from f.ex. booking.com for each completed sale. So, there is a food-chain before the albergue owner gets his/her money. It is you and the albergue owner who pay the food-chain... Booking directly should give both you and the albergue owner a better deal.
 
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Booking direct, as opposed to using booking.com, also avoids that awkward moment when the person in front of you pays less than you because the albergue owner has, very sensibly at these low prices, factored in the commission. It happened to me and I booked direct thereafter.
 
You can also reserve a bed directly with the albergue/hostel where you want to stay. Brings them more money bc not having to pay booking fees to the booking websites. In addition, they will have full control of their capasity, while sites like booking.com (I like them) do not neccessarily show the true number of beds available. They only dispose of a limited number of beds.
Totally agree ... making the reservation directly with the albergue is beneficial on several levels [as noted in another comment below] BUT for me, most importantly, is that the albergue / hostel owner gets the full benefit of your reservation ... booking.com charges a hefty 15% commission ...
 
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I use the Wise Pilgrim guide. Yes, it has links to booking.com, but also phone numbers to (mostly all) places. I can understand that pilgrims with limited knowledge of the Spanish language appreciate using bokking sites in English. For me, however, it is easy to call each place and speak to them (In Spanish) directly. I have also on several/many occasions found that it is much appreciated, and sort of connects me "closer" to a particular albergue/hostal before arrival. If you know what I mean.

Edit: Most websites are running affiliate programs. So does f.ex. booking.com too. Also various apps. It works like this: A travel site (or app) that links to f.ex.booking.com, receives a commission from f.ex. booking.com for each completed sale. So, there is a food-chain before the albergue owner gets his/her money. It is you and the albergue owner who pay the food-chain... Booking directly should give both you and the albergue owner a better deal.
I couldn’t agree with you more‼️
 
I was very interested to read you met Australians on your pilgrimage. Surely they are Australians living overseas, we haven’t been able to travel internationally for 18 months. Hopefully more cafes and accommodations can survive and reopen soon. Great to read, thank you.
 
I was very interested to read you met Australians on your pilgrimage. Surely they are Australians living overseas, we haven’t been able to travel internationally for 18 months. Hopefully more cafes and accommodations can survive and reopen soon. Great to read, thank you.
I twas thinking the same ...
 
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I was very interested to read you met Australians on your pilgrimage. Surely they are Australians living overseas, we haven’t been able to travel internationally for 18 months. Hopefully more cafes and accommodations can survive and reopen soon. Great to read, thank you.
Yes prisoners in our own country!!!!!
 
Finally may I say that I have been repeatedly appalled by the fact that most pilgrims make no serious effort to learn a little Spanish and know next to nothing about Spanish history, geography, culture and society. If intending pilgrims were to read a book or use the internet to familiarise themselves just a little with past and present-day Spain, not only would it enrich their experience of walking a Camino, but it would also facilitate their day-to-day life, e.g., understanding and adapting to the hours when Spanish shops are open for business, realising that there are more public holidays in Spain than most other countries, etc..

Here here.
 
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I agree with eamann regarding Spanish, but sometimes events happen too quickly to be fully prepared. Last week I started learning some Spanish in anticipation of walking the CF next year. Unfortunately, a window just opened for me to travel to Spain but only if I go within the next two weeks. Ugh! My choice is to go now before learning any Spanish or to study Spanish and hope for another window of opportunity some time in the future. To me the choice is simple. I will go now. I can only trust the translating apps will suffice.
Bob
 
Even if your Spanish is pathetic...direct booking saves the 15% commission, so the owner will likely forgive you. This is where WhatsApp is probably useful. I don't have it, so can't speak from direct experience, but many albergues do have it. So you can send them a WhatsApp sms, rather than paying the middleman. (I do have Booking.com, but only use it for big chain hotels - not the little guys on the camino.)
 
The discussion about booking sites seems to come up regularly. As someone who, for various reasons, sometimes contacts accommodation directly, sometimes uses a booking site, sometimes turns up without having done either - those were the days when that was the norm - I think there’s no right or wrong.

If listing on the sites didn’t make financial sense for the albergue or casa owners, I think they wouldn’t do it. Presumably the wider target audience that the sites can reach make it worthwhile, while also allowing the owners to keep beds / rooms aside for direct enquires or walk-ins. I’ve even had times when I’ve contacted the accommodation directly and they’ve suggested I book through the site they’re listed on.

As @LTfit notes, albergue owners typically factor the commission into the price. If I use a site and pay more for the convenience, I’m happy to do so and would not begrudge a ‘walk in’ getting a cheaper price.

And I’ve never felt the method of my booking - or not - affected the welcome received or ability to make a personal connection.

Looking at accommodation options for our Via de la Plata in April, I’m pretty sure once again we will end up with a combo of direct reservations, bookings on external sites and walking in with fingers crossed. All part of the adventure 😎
 
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I agree with eamann regarding Spanish, but sometimes events happen too quickly to be fully prepared. Last week I started learning some Spanish in anticipation of walking the CF next year. Unfortunately, a window just opened for me to travel to Spain but only if I go within the next two weeks. Ugh! My choice is to go now before learning any Spanish or to study Spanish and hope for another window of opportunity some time in the future. To me the choice is simple. I will go now. I can only trust the translating apps will suffice.
Bob
I now have basic Camino Spanish - sort of, ish ... But since my first camino, rather than trying to use a phrase book or a phone to translate, I have carried with me a 1 Page where I typed out all the basic words and phrases I’m likely to need for greetings, accom, food, money, emergencies. I put it in a plastic sleeve and fold it up and keep somewhere handy with a second copy in my pack in case I lose the first. Whether talking in person or phoning ahead, that one piece of paper is usually all we need.
 
If listing on the sites didn’t make financial sense for the albergue or casa owners, I think they wouldn’t do it. Presumably the wider target audience that the sites can reach make it worthwhile, while also allowing the owners to keep beds / rooms aside for direct enquires or walk-ins. I’ve even had times when I’ve contacted the accommodation directly and they’ve suggested I book through the site they’re listed on.

As @LTfit notes, albergue owners typically factor the commission into the price. If I use a site and pay more for the convenience, I’m happy to do so and would not begrudge a ‘walk in’ getting a cheaper price.
Exactly. The booking sites do give the properties value by exposing them to a wider audience, and the convenience of being able to cancel/make changes via one website is worth it to me to pay a little bit more. Like @Jenny@zen I do a little bit of all three - show up in town and find a room or a bed, call or email properties directly, or use booking sites.
 
Thanks for your sharing! It's interesting!
 
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My intention was to share these impressions with you from my very first day in the Pyrenees, but for reasons that you can imagine, I never had the time nor the energy to do so. Hence it is only now that I am home from my three-week long walk, that I am posting my experiences.

I left SJPdP on 7 September and finished in León on 28 September. I had already walked the Camino francés in 2005, 2013 and 2018.

The long and detailed report by Gerald Kelly sometime ago covers very completely all that I would have wished to have said. I shall limit my remarks therefore to confirming some of the points he made.

First of all, the number of pilgrims. There were obviously many less pilgrims than in previous years. But I never had the impression that I was alone, except when I started off in the morning much later than the other walkers.

On the other hand, cafés where in previous years I had difficulty finding a seat, this time round generally had free tables, but were never empty.

Hornillos del Camino was like a ghost town in the early evening, not a soul to be seen.

When I walked along the Calle de la Santa Maria in Viana in 2018, I recognised at least half a dozen friends sitting in cafés along this main street in the historic heart of the town. This year, I found that there were fewer cafés open, fewer people sitting at tables in the street and no one that I recognised…

Secondly I got the impression that many more pilgrims were booking ahead, some (unwisely in my opinion) for their entire walk. I reserved beds for the first week and then continued to reserve three or four days in advance for the rest of my Camino.

For various reasons I wanted a private room, if possible in an albergue rather than an hostal, so as to maintain contact with the other people on the trail. There are not many individual rooms in albergues and yet I did not have trouble finding accommodation until after Burgos. From there to Sahagûn I had to juggle dates and make some compromises.

This may have been because there were more people walking from Burgos. But it may also have been because from Burgos onwards I came across several Spanish groups of about a dozen people, one of them accompanied by a bus.

In general I got the impression that beds in dormitories were available in most places.

As has been said many times on the Forum, do not rely on Booking.com or on the availability facility on Gronze, which is based on Booking.com. These gave me the impression, for example, that there were few places available in Sahagún, but when I arrived there I realised that several establishments were half empty. It is always better to contact albergues and hostales directly.

Apart from the groups I have just mentioned, Spaniards seemed to be a small minority of those walking. North Americans, Canadians, and Australians were present, but in (much) smaller numbers than in previous years.

Another trend which I noticed and which will I think become stronger in future years is having one’s backpack (or even suitcase(s)!) transported from one place to another.

As regards the covid virus, I never heard of anyone becoming infected. Spanish statistics show that prevalence of the virus is declining. If you are in reasonably good health - which is probably the case if you are contemplating walking the Camino - have no major underlying illnesses, and maintain a strong immunity, you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Finally may I say that I have been repeatedly appalled by the fact that most pilgrims make no serious effort to learn a little Spanish and know next to nothing about Spanish history, geography, culture and society. If intending pilgrims were to read a book or use the internet to familiarise themselves just a little with past and present-day Spain, not only would it enrich their experience of walking a Camino, but it would also facilitate their day-to-day life, e.g., understanding and adapting to the hours when Spanish shops are open for business, realising that there are more public holidays in Spain than most other countries, etc..

Even though it is almost the end of the season for walking to Santiago I hope that these remarks will be of some use to those who do so.
Excellent points. I have booked ahead, but only 1-2 days and sometimes not at all. It allows me to see how I feel, whichnis important. I was in Bercianos del Real Camino last night and the hospitaliero did say that Sarria forward is still very busy, however, it will be several days before I am there and it may clear out more. My Spanish is not fabulous, but better than most Americans I have met here. It has been invaluable.
 
I was very interested to read you met Australians on your pilgrimage. Surely they are Australians living overseas, we haven’t been able to travel internationally for 18 months. Hopefully more cafes and accommodations can survive and reopen soon. Great to read, thank you.
Hi Lucy3095,
I'm an Aussie based mostly in Berlin and even though I'd spent close to 12 months back in Sydney in 2020-21, I applied for travel permission & surprisingly received approval by email in under 4 days!
I've just returned to Berlin after completing the Camino Portuguese from Porto. I didn't meet or hear of another Australian on that trail or any other from international pilgrims I spoke with in SdC & other places. So maybe the travel bans are still impacting travellers out of Oz?
Whilst the Portuguese route wasn't crowded, it was more busy than I had expected. In SdC the queue for the credencial was short & restaurants were still busy. It was great to be there again.
Best wishes, Chris Edmeades
 
Great report and comments! Regarding learning Spanish, the Bay Area APOC sponsors a short course each spring called Basic Spanish for the Camino that is a fun way to learn basic phrases and Spanish history and culture, all presented within Camino themes. If this sounds interesting to you, consider contacting your local chapter and ask them to sponsor a similar event. We have spoken in the past about doing a training session for other chapters to present these and thanks to this thread, I'm feeling motivated again to pursue this. The ability to communicate in Spanish enriches the Camino experience so much!
 
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My intention was to share these impressions with you from my very first day in the Pyrenees, but for reasons that you can imagine, I never had the time nor the energy to do so. Hence it is only now that I am home from my three-week long walk, that I am posting my experiences.

I left SJPdP on 7 September and finished in León on 28 September. I had already walked the Camino francés in 2005, 2013 and 2018.

The long and detailed report by Gerald Kelly sometime ago covers very completely all that I would have wished to have said. I shall limit my remarks therefore to confirming some of the points he made.

First of all, the number of pilgrims. There were obviously many less pilgrims than in previous years. But I never had the impression that I was alone, except when I started off in the morning much later than the other walkers.

On the other hand, cafés where in previous years I had difficulty finding a seat, this time round generally had free tables, but were never empty.

Hornillos del Camino was like a ghost town in the early evening, not a soul to be seen.

When I walked along the Calle de la Santa Maria in Viana in 2018, I recognised at least half a dozen friends sitting in cafés along this main street in the historic heart of the town. This year, I found that there were fewer cafés open, fewer people sitting at tables in the street and no one that I recognised…

Secondly I got the impression that many more pilgrims were booking ahead, some (unwisely in my opinion) for their entire walk. I reserved beds for the first week and then continued to reserve three or four days in advance for the rest of my Camino.

For various reasons I wanted a private room, if possible in an albergue rather than an hostal, so as to maintain contact with the other people on the trail. There are not many individual rooms in albergues and yet I did not have trouble finding accommodation until after Burgos. From there to Sahagûn I had to juggle dates and make some compromises.

This may have been because there were more people walking from Burgos. But it may also have been because from Burgos onwards I came across several Spanish groups of about a dozen people, one of them accompanied by a bus.

In general I got the impression that beds in dormitories were available in most places.

As has been said many times on the Forum, do not rely on Booking.com or on the availability facility on Gronze, which is based on Booking.com. These gave me the impression, for example, that there were few places available in Sahagún, but when I arrived there I realised that several establishments were half empty. It is always better to contact albergues and hostales directly.

Apart from the groups I have just mentioned, Spaniards seemed to be a small minority of those walking. North Americans, Canadians, and Australians were present, but in (much) smaller numbers than in previous years.

Another trend which I noticed and which will I think become stronger in future years is having one’s backpack (or even suitcase(s)!) transported from one place to another.

As regards the covid virus, I never heard of anyone becoming infected. Spanish statistics show that prevalence of the virus is declining. If you are in reasonably good health - which is probably the case if you are contemplating walking the Camino - have no major underlying illnesses, and maintain a strong immunity, you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Finally may I say that I have been repeatedly appalled by the fact that most pilgrims make no serious effort to learn a little Spanish and know next to nothing about Spanish history, geography, culture and society. If intending pilgrims were to read a book or use the internet to familiarise themselves just a little with past and present-day Spain, not only would it enrich their experience of walking a Camino, but it would also facilitate their day-to-day life, e.g., understanding and adapting to the hours when Spanish shops are open for business, realising that there are more public holidays in Spain than most other countries, etc..

Even though it is almost the end of the season for walking to Santiago I hope that these remarks will be of some use to those who do so.
Thanks @eamann for your report. My husband and I and I have been taking Spanish lessons now for a few years. Sometimes we have taken a week or two of intensives Spanish in Spain, but mainly we have been studying an hour or two each week with a language school here in the states. It is slow progress, but the payoff has been great.

I am able to read a newspaper each day in Spanish and my husband who is on the right now Camino is able to speak to people and also be understood. We will continue to take lessons and improve.

Phil is finding the phone connection is a great tool. He usually calls over WhatsApp and the hopitalero almost always remembers him by name the next day and thanks him for calling.
 
My intention was to share these impressions with you from my very first day in the Pyrenees, but for reasons that you can imagine, I never had the time nor the energy to do so. Hence it is only now that I am home from my three-week long walk, that I am posting my experiences.

I left SJPdP on 7 September and finished in León on 28 September. I had already walked the Camino francés in 2005, 2013 and 2018.

The long and detailed report by Gerald Kelly sometime ago covers very completely all that I would have wished to have said. I shall limit my remarks therefore to confirming some of the points he made.

First of all, the number of pilgrims. There were obviously many less pilgrims than in previous years. But I never had the impression that I was alone, except when I started off in the morning much later than the other walkers.

On the other hand, cafés where in previous years I had difficulty finding a seat, this time round generally had free tables, but were never empty.

Hornillos del Camino was like a ghost town in the early evening, not a soul to be seen.

When I walked along the Calle de la Santa Maria in Viana in 2018, I recognised at least half a dozen friends sitting in cafés along this main street in the historic heart of the town. This year, I found that there were fewer cafés open, fewer people sitting at tables in the street and no one that I recognised…

Secondly I got the impression that many more pilgrims were booking ahead, some (unwisely in my opinion) for their entire walk. I reserved beds for the first week and then continued to reserve three or four days in advance for the rest of my Camino.

For various reasons I wanted a private room, if possible in an albergue rather than an hostal, so as to maintain contact with the other people on the trail. There are not many individual rooms in albergues and yet I did not have trouble finding accommodation until after Burgos. From there to Sahagûn I had to juggle dates and make some compromises.

This may have been because there were more people walking from Burgos. But it may also have been because from Burgos onwards I came across several Spanish groups of about a dozen people, one of them accompanied by a bus.

In general I got the impression that beds in dormitories were available in most places.

As has been said many times on the Forum, do not rely on Booking.com or on the availability facility on Gronze, which is based on Booking.com. These gave me the impression, for example, that there were few places available in Sahagún, but when I arrived there I realised that several establishments were half empty. It is always better to contact albergues and hostales directly.

Apart from the groups I have just mentioned, Spaniards seemed to be a small minority of those walking. North Americans, Canadians, and Australians were present, but in (much) smaller numbers than in previous years.

Another trend which I noticed and which will I think become stronger in future years is having one’s backpack (or even suitcase(s)!) transported from one place to another.

As regards the covid virus, I never heard of anyone becoming infected. Spanish statistics show that prevalence of the virus is declining. If you are in reasonably good health - which is probably the case if you are contemplating walking the Camino - have no major underlying illnesses, and maintain a strong immunity, you have nothing to fear but fear itself.

Finally may I say that I have been repeatedly appalled by the fact that most pilgrims make no serious effort to learn a little Spanish and know next to nothing about Spanish history, geography, culture and society. If intending pilgrims were to read a book or use the internet to familiarise themselves just a little with past and present-day Spain, not only would it enrich their experience of walking a Camino, but it would also facilitate their day-to-day life, e.g., understanding and adapting to the hours when Spanish shops are open for business, realising that there are more public holidays in Spain than most other countries, etc..

Even though it is almost the end of the season for walking to Santiago I hope that these remarks will be of some use to those who do so.
Thanks for your post, but I was a little surprised that you met Australians on the Camino. We have not been able to leave Australia for a very long time. Perhaps they were Australians who live elsewhere. Our international borders are set to reopen by the end of this year and I now hope to walk the Portuguese Camino in either May or September 2022.
Booking.com will always advertise there are only a few rooms or beds left, to create anxiety in the traveller. It is a marketing strategy. I also advocate direct contact when you can.
 
Thanks for the summary report! it was quite informative. It is interesting to note that the first half of the Camino Frances is normally dominated by non-Spaniards - especially in September and May - and this is true this year as well.


You reminded us, rightly, that people should not rely on Booking.com for availability. I'd like to clarify a small point - Gronze doesn't actually provide availability information "based on Booking". It doesn't track or report availability except to say if the place is open or closed. Rather, Gronze gives links to other sites (e.g. Booking, or the lodging website) that are responsible for whatever information they choose to provide.
Further to C Clearly’s explanation. Booking functions by contracting for a certain percentage of rooms or beds. A message that no more rooms are available applies only to the Booking.com site because they fulfilled the contract. For example an albergue may have 20 beds and booking may contract for 8 of those. Once the eight are gone from booking they put up a no room available sign. Intended me thinks to have you look for another property on Booking.com rather than contact the albergue directly.
I found two very good resources were the local tourist bureau and when not busy the hospitalero in your current albergue.
 
Get a spanish phone number with Airalo. eSim, so no physical SIM card. Easy to use app to add more funds if needed.

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