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First draft of my route with stages

David Baylor

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Time of past OR future Camino
Madrid/Lanante/Sanabres June/July 2015
Since I will be walking on three different routes I was not sure where to post this. This is my first draft of stages. Any input would be highly appreciated. Please note I did not include rest days as I believe that health and weather will drive those more than attractions on the routes.

Camino de Madrid
Metro from Madrid to Fuencarral
Fuencarral - Colmenar Viejo 24K 24K
Colmenar Viejo - Manzanares el Real 15K 39K
Manzanares el Real - Cercedilla 19K 58K
Cercedilla - Segovia 31K 89K
Segovia - Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32K 121K
Santa Maria la Real de Nieva - Coca 22K 143K

Off the Camino
Coca - Olmedo 22K 165K
Olmedo - Medina del Campo 22K 187K

Camino de Levante
Medina del Campo - Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22K 209K
Siete Iglesias de Trabancos - Toro 30K 239K
Toro - Zamora 34K 273K

Camino Via de la Plata
Zamora - Riego del Camino 33K 306K
Riego del Camino - Granja de Moreruela 7K 313K

Camino Sanabres
Granja de Moreruela - Tabara 22K 335K
Tabara - Santa Croya de Tera 19K 354K
Santa Croya de Tera - Rionegro del Puente 26K 380K
Rionegro del Puente - Puebla de Sanabria 39K 419K
Puebla de Sanabria - Lubian 28K 447K
Lubian - A Gudina 23K 470K
A Gudina - Laza 33K 503K
Laza - Xunqueira de Ambia 26K 529K
Xunqueira de Ambia - Ourense 19K 548K
Ourense - Cea 21K 569K
Cea - A Laxe 32K 601K
A Laxe - Outeiro 36K 637K
Outerio - Santiago de Compostela 18K 655K
 
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Since I will be walking on three different routes I was not sure where to post this. This is my first draft of stages. Any input would be highly appreciated. Please note I did not include rest days as I believe that health and weather will drive those more than attractions on the routes.

Camino de Madrid
Metro from Madrid to Fuencarral
Fuencarral - Colmenar Viejo 24K 24K
Colmenar Viejo - Manzanares el Real 15K 39K
Manzanares el Real - Cercedilla 19K 58K
Cercedilla - Segovia 31K 89K
Segovia - Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32K 121K
Santa Maria la Real de Nieva - Coca 22K 143K

Off the Camino
Coca - Olmedo 22K 165K
Olmedo - Medina del Campo 22K 187K

Camino de Levante
Medina del Campo - Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22K 209K
Siete Iglesias de Trabancos - Toro 30K 239K
Toro - Zamora 34K 273K

Camino Via de la Plata
Zamora - Riego del Camino 33K 306K
Riego del Camino - Granja de Moreruela 7K 313K

Camino Sanabres
Granja de Moreruela - Tabara 22K 335K
Tabara - Santa Croya de Tera 19K 354K
Santa Croya de Tera - Rionegro del Puente 26K 380K
Rionegro del Puente - Puebla de Sanabria 39K 419K
Puebla de Sanabria - Lubian 28K 447K
Lubian - A Gudina 23K 470K
A Gudina - Laza 33K 503K
Laza - Xunqueira de Ambia 26K 529K
Xunqueira de Ambia - Ourense 19K 548K
Ourense - Cea 21K 569K
Cea - A Laxe 32K 601K
A Laxe - Outeiro 36K 637K
Outerio - Santiago de Compostela 18K 655K
Nice zig-zag-ing, David, and some long stages too :)
When are you planning to do this? Most possibly I'll start from Valencia on Levante in 2nd week of June.
For Madrid you can search for my posts (I walked it this summer) in Madrid section and for Levante Ivar kindly posted my distances & accomodation list I've gathered so far in Resources section. Maybe that would be of some help.

K1
 
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Thanks. They are helpful and I am already contemplating several changes. Does anyone have something like that for the Sanabres?
 
Thanks. They are helpful and I am already contemplating several changes. Does anyone have something like that for the Sanabres?
David, the second link is all the way to Fisterra. It's my itinerary for next year: Valencia - Zamora (Levante), Zamora - Santiago (Sanabres) & Santiago - Fisterra (via Muxia), but I've posted it in Levante because starting in Valencia.

Enjoy your planning. Ultreia!
 
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K1 and Laurie, thanks a lot. I needed the info on places to stay and was amazed at how close my stages matched with both of yours.
 
Also, assuming I can pick rest days for "non emergency" purposes. I know I would like to stay a day at Segovia and Zamora. What, in your opinion, would be the best two on the Sanabres? I am looking for cultural attractions mainly.
 
On the Sanabres, Ourense is really the only city. Its thermal baths are quite amazing, and the historic core is interesting, but it can't compete with someplace like Zamora. There is also the quite touristy town of Puebla de Sanabria, very prettified and a lot of expensive hotels. It has a castle, some very nice views, but doesn't have a lot of what I'd call cultural attractions. The monastery of Oseira is worth a detour, IMO, and it is in a beautiful setting. The albergue is a little clammy but I wouldn't miss the chance to stay there.
 
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With tentative rest days

Camino de Madrid
Metro from Madrid to Fuencarral
1. Fuencarral - Colmenar Viejo 24K 24K
2. Colmenar Viejo - Manzanares el Real 15K 39K
3. Manzanares el Real - Cercedilla 19K 58K
4. Cercedilla - Segovia 31K 89K
5. Rest Day
6. Segovia - Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32K 121K
7. Santa Maria la Real de Nieva - Coca 22K 143K

Off the Camino
8. Coca - Olmedo 22K 165K
9. Olmedo - Medina del Campo 22K 187K

Camino de Levante
10. Medina del Campo - Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22K 209K
11. Siete Iglesias de Trabancos - Toro 30K 239K
12. Toro - Zamora 34K 273K
13. Rest Day

Camino Via de la Plata
14. Zamora - Riego del Camino 33K 306K
15. Riego del Camino - Granja de Moreruela 7K 313K

Camino Sanabres
16. Granja de Moreruela - Tabara 22K 335K
17. Tabara - Santa Croya de Tera 19K 354K
18. Santa Croya de Tera - Rionegro del Puente 26K 380K
19. Rionegro del Puente - Puebla de Sanabria 39K 419K
20. Rest Day
21. Puebla de Sanabria - Lubian 28K 447K
22. Lubian - A Gudina 23K 470K
23. A Gudina - Laza 33K 503K
24. Laza - Xunqueira de Ambia 26K 529K
25. Xunqueira de Ambia - Ourense 19K 548K
26. Rest Day
27. Ourense - Cea 21K 569K
28. Cea - A Laxe 32K 601K
29. A Laxe - Outeiro 36K 637K
30. Outerio - Santiago de Compostela 18K 655K
31. Train to Madrid

Notes:
(1) Days 14, 15, and 16 will probably be merged into two days.
(2) Days 7, 8 and 9 will probably be merged into 2 days

Now to plan accommodations
 
Hi, David,
Just a couple of comments, in addition to -- looks like fun!

I am one of those partial to walking right from the Plaza de Castilla. I was surprised at how quickly the city ended and countryside began. No ugly industrial outskirts, and it's kind of amazing to turn around after about an hour of walking and see the Madrid skyline seeming so far away. Of course, that's just personal preference.

Leaving Madrid.jpg

I think that the good think about your Sanabrés stages is that you will be able to adjust on the spur of the moment because of accommodation offerings. When I walked the Levante, I had some variations on the more common stages, I think. And I tried to mention the new places we saw as well. https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...s-construction-and-misc-from-june-2013.19112/

Are you going to stay in albergues? There are a few places on the Sanabrés where finding non-albergue accommodation is tricky. buen camino, Laurie
 
Our first thought was to start in Madrid and head out but we really just want to get out of the city as quickly as possible.

Our intent is to stay in albergues as much as possible. Right now there is a debate to chop the first day in two, stop in Tres Cantos and stay at a hotel. Basically an extra day for jet lag / walking adjustment. That would be a Fuencarral - Tres Cantos 12K then a Tres Cantos - Columnar Viejo 12K. If we decide on that we will stay in the Holiday Inn in Tres Cantos and might consider walking in from Downtown to Tres Cantos at a very leisurely pace.
 
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I know there have been occasional questions raised, but it looks like Tres Cantos' albergue is clearly open. I think Kinky may have had an odd experience there, but nothing bad. http://trescantos.es/web/noticias/item/300272-camino-de-santiago-en-madrid-más-de-250-peregrinos-de-nueve-nacionalidades-han-pernoctado-en-tres-cantos
:) Nothing really odd about "albergue" in Tres Cantos apart from the fact that it closes at 9PM being in the building of Ayuntamiento... But if you walk from Plaza de Espana (which is approx.1,5-2hrs walk to Plaza de Castilla) that shouldn't bother you. For the first day you'll be dead tired :D

That would be a Fuencarral - Tres Cantos 12K then a Tres Cantos - Columnar Viejo 12K. If we decide on that we will stay in the Holiday Inn in Tres Cantos and might consider walking in from Downtown to Tres Cantos at a very leisurely pace.
David, try not to miss Manzanares del Real. It's really nice place with lots of things to do or see even if your day's stage is short. But I see now that your next planned stop after Colmenar is exactly Manzanares :) I've had whole floor of the house for myself at Sra.Lea's (or was it Ela???) house for 15€. Nothing special about that acommodation really, but much cheaper than hotel. And about 30mts from Plaza Mayor.

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David, you are open and honest and I do understand, but it is the need for certainty, the fear of uncertainty - it is the chattering mind that is scared and thinks it must control the universe, whereas your other mind, the quiet one, the real one, knows that all is well. If you try to keep to your itinerary you may have a great time but you may also become severely stressed and this may ruin your Camino as, the thing is, the Camino will deal with you as it will.

However, if you are on the Asperger spectrum then I do understand that the lists are important to you. But, David, all is well; trust this, trust we who have walked before you, you are entering a space and time where certainty and prediction of future is not necessary.

It is ok, you will find this out about three days in ... regardless of your plan, go at your natural pace, stop when you want to stop, stop and watch and enjoy when something happens, sleep over at the place you become tired in - it will be fine.

The desire and need for the list is your chattering mind trying to combat the fear it feels, the complete uncertainty of "what will happen next, how will I cope with that" the frantic fear that we may not be able to control what happens next, but we cannot control it David, the universe just happens and we swim within it like a small and golden fish in a great and wonderful sea - David, the Camino is a stepping off a cliff, and you are already one of the brave, one of the special ones, you have already chosen to surrender and to go; the other nearly 7 billion humans on this small blue pearl decline the invitation - so go with stepping off and the wind-rush as you fall towards Santiago, knowing (believing, trusting) that the landing will be soft.

All is well David, Buen Camino!

relax-nothing-is-under-control.jpg
 
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Revision 2 of what my son now calls the Camino de David



0 Madrid 0 0
1 Tres Cantos 23 23
2 Manzanares el Real 27 50
3 Cercedilla 19 69
4 Segovia 31 100
5 Rest Day 0 100
6 Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32 132
7 Villeguillo 29 161
8 Medina del Campo 37 198
9 Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22 220
10 Toro 30 250
11 Zamora 34 284
12 Rest Day 0 284
13 Riego del Camino 33 317
14 Tabara 29 346
15 Santa Croya de Tera 19 365
16 Rionegro del Puente 26 391
17 Puebla de Sanabria 39 430
18 Rest Day 0 430
19 Lubian 28 458
20 A Gudina 23 481
21 Laza 33 514
22 Xunqueira de Ambia 26 540
23 Ourense 19 559
24 Rest Day 0 559
25 Cea 21 580
26 A Laxe 32 612
27 Outerio 36 648
28 Santiago de Compostela 18 666
29 Train to Madrid
 
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WOW!!!!!!!!
One third of the stages are over 30kms. I mean, OK, it can be done, no problem about that, but - is that really how you see or wish your pilgrimage (or "pilgrimage") to be like???

Well, Buen Camino :)
 
Re the distances: I am one of those people who prefers stages of around 30km, in fact it is my favorite distance. It really depends on your walking speed, I still have lots of time to hang out, rest or visit sites.

I did the Sanabres twice and your stages are very doable. The only difference is that I stayed in Mombuey instead of Rionegro which makes the km a bit more even. On your way to Tabara do take the detour to the oldest Cisterian monestary in Spain. The ruines are well restored and well worth the visit. It was closed both times but you can climb over a stone wall and visit the grounds.

Sounds like a great combo, I'd say go for it!
 
Revision 2 of what my son now calls the Camino de David



0 Madrid 0 0
1 Tres Cantos 23 23
2 Manzanares el Real 27 50
3 Cercedilla 19 69
4 Segovia 31 100
5 Rest Day 0 100
6 Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32 132
7 Villeguillo 29 161
8 Medina del Campo 37 198
9 Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22 220
10 Toro 30 250
11 Zamora 34 284
12 Rest Day 0 284
13 Riego del Camino 33 317
14 Tabara 29 346
15 Santa Croya de Tera 19 365
16 Rionegro del Puente 26 391
17 Puebla de Sanabria 39 430
18 Rest Day 0 430
19 Lubian 28 458
20 A Gudina 23 481
21 Laza 33 514
22 Xunqueira de Ambia 26 540
23 Ourense 19 559
24 Rest Day 0 559
25 Cea 21 580
26 A Laxe 32 612
27 Outerio 36 648
28 Santiago de Compostela 18 666
29 Train to Madrid

:D Only now I saw that you counted 666kms from Madrid to SdC... Camino de Devil (David)?
Devid? Davil? ;)
 
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I did the jump from the camino de Madrid to the Levante last winter, but crossed over from Santa María la Real de Nieva to Arévalo. The path between the two is alongside a C road, and much of the way it's on a parallel agricultural track, and there was very little traffic the day I did it (which was a national holiday, so that may have made a difference). I seem to remember it was about 25km, including a detour to the pleasant village of Codorniz, which had a friendly bar (sadly not serving quail). The stages would be Santa M-Arévalo, c25km, Arévalo-Medina del Campo, c32km.

Arévalo is a delight, with fabulous squares, a wealth of mudéjar churches, an imposing castle where Isabel la Católica spent several years as a child, some decent restaurants and a more than adequate (free) albergue that isn't in Mundicamino or any other guide I saw (ask at the policia local just after the tourist office in the town walls, and they will give you the key and probably drive you to it - it's in a room in a corner of the sports centre). PS Arévalo's cistercian albergue listed in Mundicamino and elsewhere no longs offers acogida to pilgrims.

My other suggestion is on the Sanabrés: I would do Tábara to Calzadilla de Tera (34km), CdT to Mombuey (25km), Mombuey to Puebla de Sanabria (33km). I think Rionegro del Puente to Puebla de Sanabia would be a bit of a long day, and Mombuey is a pleasant village with a Templar church and rather more in the way of bars and shops than Rionegro. The albergues are fine in both (the one in Mombuey is great out of season: I've had it to myself three times now - not sure it would be much fun if there were many others in it)

Hope you have a good one whichever routes you chose. I think pick 'n mix caminos can work really well - I've just finished a selection of the Sureste and Levante (with a bit of the Lana thrown in), and next year hope to do the first half of the Ebro and then switch to the Castellano-Aragonés.
 
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Revision 3 of the Camino de David

Alans input and a quick look at elevation changes sealed the deal. Anyone want to help me smooth out the final Ourense - Santiago stages?

Also, I loved the advice about Codorniz. Anyone else do my stages and have a village on route you can recommend for a quick drink or lunch?

0 Madrid 0 0
1 Tres Cantos 23 23
2 Manzanares el Real 27 50
3 Cercedilla 19 69
4 Segovia 31 100
5 Rest Day 0 100
6 Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32 132
7 Arevelo 27 159
8 Medina del Campo 32 191
9 Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22 213
10 Toro 30 243
11 Zamora 34 277
12 Rest Day 0 277
13 Riego del Camino 33 310
14 Tabara 29 339
15 Calzadilla de Tera 32 371
16 Mombuey 25 396
17 Puebla de Sanabria 33 429
18 Rest Day 0 429
19 Lubian 28 457
20 A Gudina 23 480
21 Laza 33 513
22 Xunqueira de Ambia 26 539
23 Ourense 19 558
24 Rest Day 0 558
25 Cea 21 579
26 A Laxe 32 611
27 Outerio 36 647
28 Santiago de Compostela 18 665
 
Hi, David
I've done it this way:
Ourense to Castro Dozon 36
Silleda 29
Outeiro 26
Santiago 14-15

And I've also gone this way, to see (and sleep in) the monastery in Oseira, well worth it IMO.
Ourense to Oseira 34
Laxe 29
Ponte Ulla 31 (or Outeiro 35)
Santiago 22

On a couple of occasions, I had thought I'd stay in Cea, but when I got there it was just too early. So it could be a good lunch stop. It's a nice little town, great pulperia, but not much going on except for a lot of bread baking!
 
Hi, David

On a couple of occasions, I had thought I'd stay in Cea, but when I got there it was just too early. So it could be a good lunch stop. It's a nice little town, great pulperia, but not much going on except for a lot of bread baking!

I'll second Laurie's suggestion about staying in Oseira. Vespers in the monastery with the last 14 monks keeping the vast place alive is an unforgettable experience. I think it's only 29-30km from Ourense, so very doable, but even if it's 34 it still cuts a few km off the next day's hike to A Laxe. In winter the 2 bar-restaurants in Oseira village close early, so you'd need to pick up a bit of food in Cea.

I stayed in Cea once when it was raining hard, and the damp albergue/barn at Oseira didn't appeal; Cea's is a very decent warm albergue, and the shy but charming hospitalero is an expert on the gaita and Galician folk music. And the pulpo in the local restaurant is well worth having whether for lunch on the way to Oseira or if you're staying in Cea.
 
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It's right after a rest day so the 30 will not be an issue. Sweet, thanks both of you!
 
Revision 4 - Camino de David

0 Madrid 0 0
1 Tres Cantos 23 23
2 Manzanares el Real 27 50
3 Cercedilla 19 69
4 Segovia 31 100
5 Rest Day 0 100
6 Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32 132
7 Arevelo 27 159
8 Medina del Campo 32 191
9 Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22 213
10 Toro 30 243
11 Zamora 34 277
12 Rest Day 0 277
13 Riego del Camino 33 310
14 Tabara 29 339
15 Calzadilla de Tera 32 371
16 Mombuey 25 396
17 Puebla de Sanabria 33 429
18 Rest Day 0 429
19 Lubian 28 457
20 A Gudina 23 480
21 Laza 33 513
22 Xunqueira de Ambia 26 539
23 Ourense 19 558
24 Rest Day 0 558
25 Oseira 30 588
26 A Laxe 29 617
27 Outerio 36 654
28 Santiago de Compostela 18 672
 
It looks like you are pretty much set on your Sanabres stages. I, too, have done both options (Ourense-Oseira and Ourense-Castro-Dozon) and don't believe that you will regret going via Oseira. The turn off is on your way out of Cea.
 
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Revision 4 - Camino de David

0 Madrid 0 0
1 Tres Cantos 23 23
2 Manzanares el Real 27 50
3 Cercedilla 19 69
4 Segovia 31 100
5 Rest Day 0 100
6 Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32 132
7 Arevelo 27 159
8 Medina del Campo 32 191
9 Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22 213
10 Toro 30 243
11 Zamora 34 277
12 Rest Day 0 277
13 Riego del Camino 33 310
14 Tabara 29 339
15 Calzadilla de Tera 32 371
16 Mombuey 25 396
17 Puebla de Sanabria 33 429
18 Rest Day 0 429
19 Lubian 28 457
20 A Gudina 23 480
21 Laza 33 513
22 Xunqueira de Ambia 26 539
23 Ourense 19 558
24 Rest Day 0 558
25 Oseira 30 588
26 A Laxe 29 617
27 Outerio 36 654
28 Santiago de Compostela 18 672
Hi, David!

Have you seen that there's new albergue in Mataelpino some 8 kms from Manzanares onwards??? It might help you with shortening the stage to Cercedilla and another one to Segovia.

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Hi David.

Thank you for the inspiration. In May I followed your steps from Madrid up to Zamora (then switched for Camino Portugués de la Vía de la Plata). It is a great route with a lot of interesting things to see (a castle in Manzanares el Real, Guadarrama, Ségovia, churches and bridge in Arévalo, great collegiate church in Toro) or to taste (the vine in Toro for example). Except possibly for the part from Siete Iglesias to Zamora it is also very well marked. And looking to the recent posts from other routes complaining about crowds there have been virtually no other pilgrims on this route. The first time I met other pilgrim it was only in albergue in Zamora. Thanks. Milan
 
Revision 4 - Camino de David

0 Madrid 0 0
1 Tres Cantos 23 23
2 Manzanares el Real 27 50
3 Cercedilla 19 69
4 Segovia 31 100
5 Rest Day 0 100
6 Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32 132
7 Arevelo 27 159
8 Medina del Campo 32 191
9 Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22 213
10 Toro 30 243
11 Zamora 34 277
12 Rest Day 0 277
13 Riego del Camino 33 310
14 Tabara 29 339
15 Calzadilla de Tera 32 371
16 Mombuey 25 396
17 Puebla de Sanabria 33 429
18 Rest Day 0 429
19 Lubian 28 457
20 A Gudina 23 480
21 Laza 33 513
22 Xunqueira de Ambia 26 539
23 Ourense 19 558
24 Rest Day 0 558
25 Oseira 30 588
26 A Laxe 29 617
27 Outerio 36 654
28 Santiago de Compostela 18 672
hi David
Revision 4 - Camino de David

0 Madrid 0 0
1 Tres Cantos 23 23
2 Manzanares el Real 27 50
3 Cercedilla 19 69
4 Segovia 31 100
5 Rest Day 0 100
6 Santa Maria la Real de Nieva 32 132
7 Arevelo 27 159
8 Medina del Campo 32 191
9 Siete Iglesias de Trabancos 22 213
10 Toro 30 243
11 Zamora 34 277
12 Rest Day 0 277
13 Riego del Camino 33 310
14 Tabara 29 339
15 Calzadilla de Tera 32 371
16 Mombuey 25 396
17 Puebla de Sanabria 33 429
18 Rest Day 0 429
19 Lubian 28 457
20 A Gudina 23 480
21 Laza 33 513
22 Xunqueira de Ambia 26 539
23 Ourense 19 558
24 Rest Day 0 558
25 Oseira 30 588
26 A Laxe 29 617
27 Outerio 36 654
28 Santiago de Compostela 18 672

Hi David

I am flying out from Australia on 27 September 2017 and will follow in your footsteps from Madrid. Did you post any information on your Camino after you arrived in SDC?

Regards

Middo
 

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