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  1. Bob Howard

    Rethinking my CF-ish route after Burgos (and I start in 7 days!)

    Reasons not to miss the Meseta: Hontanas, Castrojeriz, Carrion de Los Condes, and Sahagún. Also, Boadilla del Camino, Fromista, Ledigos and Mansilla de Las Mules. Also, the many other charming small villages and hamlets in between, including Moratinos (hello Rebecca),
  2. Bob Howard

    What would you change about the CF - if you could?

    Victory! The collective negativity of the Forum's "it's too crowded" crowd has once again successfully discouraged a never walked a Camino future Pilgrim to not walk the Camino Frances. Our vigilance has been rewarded.
  3. Bob Howard

    What would you change about the CF - if you could?

    You can't, and you shouldn't.
  4. Bob Howard

    Where in Camino Frances (800km) Route Do I need to Spend more Time exploring the Cities/Towns?

    I did 33 days the first two Caminos (Frances), 42 days the third and fourth, and likely the same this summer. I have come around to the idea that 12 miles/20km per walking day is ideal for me--not in the physiological sense but in the cultural sense--meaning with relative short days I get to...
  5. Bob Howard

    Belorado Info

    I have a thing for Belorado, meaning I really like it. I've stayed there on my four previous Caminos. Last year stayed at Hostal B in a private room (they also have a dorm). Great host and perfect location. Not sure why I find Belorado so appealing, but I do.
  6. Bob Howard

    Discover the Fabulous Dining Room at Circulo de la Union in Burgos

    Good find, Bradypus. By the way, I just noticed your tagline "Migratory hermit", obviously reflecting your preference for avoiding "crowds".
  7. Bob Howard

    How many times have you walked the Camino Frances (more than half way)?

    Four times and walking it again May-June. Last summer I met a 5 timer and a 6 timer, and one 17 timer. Not sure I'll ever get enough of it. Yes, there is an assortment of Caminos Oscuros but only one Mothership, the Camino Francés. It has everything in abundance, including pilgrims which seems...
  8. Bob Howard

    Elevation

    Yes, that left fork is brutal, but short. Last year, I was behind a horse group. They actually took horses down there. They made it, but the horses were understandably hesitant and had to be coaxed. I've been on a number of horse pack trips in the Rockies including some rough terrain, but...
  9. Bob Howard

    Sahagún--One of those random memorable Camino moments

    The festival didn't get going until later in the afternoon. The band was there to escort the city officials to the church for something, maybe a Mass. The day before was a running with the bulls event and according to a couple locals I spoke with, people were out that night into the wee hours...
  10. Bob Howard

    Sahagún--One of those random memorable Camino moments

    Yes, it was related to the John of Sahagún festival. Where I was sitting in the Plaza Mayor was right in front of the Sahagún Ayuntamiento (the town hall). The band was there to escort town officials to the church for some ceremony. Instead of just gathering in front of the Ayuntamiento and...
  11. Bob Howard

    Sahagún--One of those random memorable Camino moments

    I posted this on a thread about the Meseta earlier today. It is one of my favorite Camino moments. If it's ok with the moderators, I'm elevating it as a freestanding post. In July this year I arrived in Sahagún after a relatively short 17 kms walk from Ledigos. I think I got there about 10:00...
  12. Bob Howard

    Opinions on Meseta

    Rebekah, I think that is the most beautiful post I've ever read on the Forum. Practically poetry.
  13. Bob Howard

    Opinions on Meseta

    Difficult, of course, to narrow it down to five. Leaving out the grand larger historic cities, of which, to me, Burgos is the most beautiful. Astorga is close. So, here are the other four, not just aesthetically pleasing, but all with a certain je ne sais quoi appealing character. Puente de La...
  14. Bob Howard

    Opinions on Meseta

    I was going to post this in a separate post, but this thread seems like the place. In July this year I arrived in Sahagún after a relatively short 17 kms walk from Ledigos. I think I got there about 10:00. I sat down in the Plaza Mayor which was devoid of activity at that hour. In looking...
  15. Bob Howard

    Opinions on Meseta

    I am a Meseta aficionado. The idea of skipping it . . . well for me, it would not be a true Camino experience without it. But if you absolutely had to cut it short, the obvious way would be to catch the once a day (I think) train to Leon from El Burgo Ranero which would save you two days. You...
  16. Bob Howard

    Crowd Stuff

    "So the forum may be the "source of their too crowded info" but it is also the source of good information." Yes, C Clearly, indeed it is the source (encylopediac-like) of good and invaluable information. To mind it is the collective equivalent of the best "guidebooks" but updated in real time...
  17. Bob Howard

    Crowd Stuff

    There has been some fresh posting in the last few days about the Camino Frances and crowds. I've been a bit of a pain on this topic before, but I've just returned from another walk three weeks ago (I am a Camino Frances repeat offender), so I can't help myself. I left SJPDP on May 23 and arrived...
  18. Bob Howard

    Quieter Routes to SDC: Departing from the CF

    This is not directed specifically to Marska, but rather everyone who decries "crowds". I walked late May to July 1 this year, but the experience was pretty much the same as my August and September walks. Most of the time I could see people ahead and behind me but the distance was such that I...

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