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“Bed race” You should read this before attempting Camino Del Norte in July/August.

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Nilsmedskillz

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Will walk the Del Norte (2019)
Hi everyone!

I did a lot of reading on this forum before me and my girlfriend decided to walk The Camino Del Norte. I have decided to write this post, since I myself found so much useful information posted and commented by other people. It is important to emphasize that this post is a mixture of subjective feelings, and actual objective observations.

This post is about what me and my girlfriend experienced as a very unpleasant “bed race”. We started from Irún on the 31th of July. We wanted to finish in Santander at the 13th of August, then do the rest some other time. Our plan before leaving was to primarily sleep at the donations-based albergues. The idea was to get the authentic pilgrim experience, but also, since we’re both students, save money.
What we soon learned is that there is not nearly enough beds at the donation-based albergues compared to how many pilgrims actually walking. It does not help that many of the pilgrims walking in the same period as us are also students keen on spending as little a possible. In my opinion, this is the main reason for the “bed race “

I will give you guys a short summary of our day to day experience of this “bed race.”

But before I begin I also feel that I need to provide some contextual information. Both me and my girlfriend are in our mid-twenties. Our backpacks that we carried were light and thoughtfully packed. I carried a 30l, my girlfriend a 40l.
We are both in good shape physically, and we are both Norwegians. The latter means that we are used to walking far in challenging terrain, and we didn’t find the Del Norte particularly hard. Even the infamous Deba - Markina stage was not that big of a deal. I’m writing this just to make clear that we are not ordinary scrubs when it comes to walking and hiking. So our issue wasn’t the walking itself, or not being able to finish the different stages in a reasonable amount of time. Our issue, as I have already mentioned, was the getting a bed.

Day 1 - Irùn. We arrived before the albergue opened. We were 4 and 5 in the line. 60 beds. Was full before 20:30. The volunteers working there had to turn people down.

Day 2 - San Sebastián. We soon discovered that San Sebastián didn’t have a albergue. Strange. We acted quickly, and booked two beds at a hostel. 33€ per person. Pricey, but understandable, since the city was full of tourists.

Day 3 - Zarautz. We kept a good pace, and walked past a lot of other pilgrims. We spent a lot of time sitting on a bench in Zarautz, treating a blister, and discussing if we should walk onwards to Getaria. A lot of the pilgrims that we previously overtook, now came rushing past us. It was only 12:30 in afternoon. We strolled causally to the albergue and meet some of the volunteers working there sitting in the yard. We were number 39 and 40. 54 beds in total. People arriving after 14:00 did not get a bed, and had to try their luck elsewhere. Me and my girlfriend started to get concerned. Is this the case at every albergue?

Day 4 - We booked a cheap accommodation at Ibiri Quarter in the hills after Deba, because we were slowly realizing that we were now competing for beds with the other pilgrims that we met at the albergues. A pleasant day of walking, no rush, so we were able to walk the Ruta Del Flycsh. That would not been a option if we had not booked a place to sleep that day.

Day 5 - Gernika. Again we “wasted” a lot of time strolling through Gernika instead of heading straight to the Albergue. We could almost have been 1 - 2 in the line. Ended up a 13 - 14. Other pilgrims coming down to Gernika seemed stressed. We meet two pilgrims that ran the last 2km with several blisters, just to get a bed. They were 37 and 38 in the line. The Albergue had 40 beds. We also spotted two people arriving to the albergue by car. They had hitchhiked just to try and reach the albergue in time to get a bed. Our concern was growing. Other pilgrims told us it would only get worse as we went along. This is not what we had imagined. It wasn’t fun seeing the disappointing look on the faces of other pilgrims that had to find somewhere else to sleep. A lot of them had really fought their way over that mountain/hill. In my opinion, they deserved a bed just as much as everyone else there. Brutal.

Day 6 - Bus to Bilbao. Someone accused us of cheating when we told them during breakfast. Is that the Camino spirit? We did not go to a donation-based albergue in Bilbao, because we didn’t want to occupy beds for people that actually walked to the albergue.

Day 7 - Castro Urdiales. We walked almost 43km that day. Both our pace and spirit was high as we approached La Pobeña. Our breaking point came on the beach, 600m away from the albergue. As we were walking on the beach at around 12:30, discussing if to rent a surfboard or not, a man about my age, with a backpack came running past us. Curious of why he was running, I decided to run after him. Since I found the entire situation a bit amusing, I decided to slowly creep up behind him. He spotted me just as I was about to poke him on the back. He let out a loud yell, and started sprinting. I sprinted after him, and then alongside him. He looked absolutely exhausted and stressed out of his mind. I couldn’t stop myself from laughing from the absurdity of the entire situation. I had to jam my shoulder into his, like in a soccer match, since we now were running on a narrow bridge. “Why are you running?” I asked. “The albergue, it is almost full” he yelled back. He started another desperate sprint. I decided to stop. I am not doing a foot race on the Camino. It turned out that some of his friends had arrived earlier than him, and had called him on his phone, telling him to hurry up. When he saw us on the far end of the beach, he decided to run like a maniac. The albergue had 38 beds. He got the last one. Brutal. We pressed on to Tu Camino Hostel. Full. The host helped us with a booking in Castro Urdiales, but we had to be there before 17:00. Not a pleasant day.

So there you have it. We went to Arenillas. There we decided to stop doing the Camino. We will enjoy the rest of our vacation not stressing and racing for beds. Probably never doing this again, at least not in summer. We really enjoyed walking, the coastal view and Spain in general, but the stress of not knowing if you have a bed or not, ruined the overall experience.
Hope someone will find this post helpful/informative, or at the very least a bit entertaining.

Next summer will be spent in hiking in Norway. There is no “bed race” there.
 

Jean Ti

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Norte, Primitivo, Frances,Via de la Plata

Trying to do one camino every year
Thank you for your experience with this bed race in summer time on the Norte. I am over 60 and we were walking the Via de la Plata in the begining of april and in may and it was the same story.

I find this very sad that reservation are not accepeted to prevent these situations to occurs.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
Thank you for your experience with this bed race in summer time on the Norte. I am over 60 and we were walking the Via de la Plata in the begining of april and in may and it was the same story.

I find this very sad that reservation are not accepeted to prevent these situations to occurs.
There are private albergues that do accept reservations. I am happy that the municipal albergues (in general) do not.
 

grayland

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Yes
However...the reservation option is now being collapsed by those who make reservations and do not show up.
Walking pilgrims are denied beds which are being held for those who will not honor the reservation.

Many pilgrims openly brag about making several "reservations" at different points along the days walk so that they can then choose where to stop.:eek::eek:. They do not call and cancel. Most albergues do not accept credit cards so cannot insist on prepayment in any meaningful way.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
However...the reservation option is now being collapsed by those who make reservations and do not show up.
Walking pilgrims are denied beds which are being held for those who will not honor the reservation.
You are right. They need to set a deadline for pilgrims to show up for their reservations.
 

KinkyOne

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
I'am not perfect, but I'm always myself!!!
Hi everyone!

I did a lot of reading on this forum before me and my girlfriend decided to walk The Camino Del Norte. I have decided to write this post, since I myself found so much useful information posted and commented by other people. It is important to emphasize that this post is a mixture of subjective feelings, and actual objective observations.

This post is about what me and my girlfriend experienced as a very unpleasant “bed race”. We started from Irún on the 31th of July. We wanted to finish in Santander at the 13th of August, then do the rest some other time. Our plan before leaving was to primarily sleep at the donations-based albergues. The idea was to get the authentic pilgrim experience, but also, since we’re both students, save money.
What we soon learned is that there is not nearly enough beds at the donation-based albergues compared to how many pilgrims actually walking. It does not help that many of the pilgrims walking in the same period as us are also students keen on spending as little a possible. In my opinion, this is the main reason for the “bed race “

I will give you guys a short summary of our day to day experience of this “bed race.”

But before I begin I also feel that I need to provide some contextual information. Both me and my girlfriend are in our mid-twenties. Our backpacks that we carried were light and thoughtfully packed. I carried a 30l, my girlfriend a 40l.
We are both in good shape physically, and we are both Norwegians. The latter means that we are used to walking far in challenging terrain, and we didn’t find the Del Norte particularly hard. Even the infamous Deba - Markina stage was not that big of a deal. I’m writing this just to make clear that we are not ordinary scrubs when it comes to walking and hiking. So our issue wasn’t the walking itself, or not being able to finish the different stages in a reasonable amount of time. Our issue, as I have already mentioned, was the getting a bed.

Day 1 - Irùn. We arrived before the albergue opened. We were 4 and 5 in the line. 60 beds. Was full before 20:30. The volunteers working there had to turn people down.

Day 2 - San Sebastián. We soon discovered that San Sebastián didn’t have a albergue. Strange. We acted quickly, and booked two beds at a hostel. 33€ per person. Pricey, but understandable, since the city was full of tourists.

Day 3 - Zarautz. We kept a good pace, and walked past a lot of other pilgrims. We spent a lot of time sitting on a bench in Zarautz, treating a blister, and discussing if we should walk onwards to Getaria. A lot of the pilgrims that we previously overtook, now came rushing past us. It was only 12:30 in afternoon. We strolled causally to the albergue and meet some of the volunteers working there sitting in the yard. We were number 39 and 40. 54 beds in total. People arriving after 14:00 did not get a bed, and had to try their luck elsewhere. Me and my girlfriend started to get concerned. Is this the case at every albergue?

Day 4 - We booked a cheap accommodation at Ibiri Quarter in the hills after Deba, because we were slowly realizing that we were now competing for beds with the other pilgrims that we met at the albergues. A pleasant day of walking, no rush, so we were able to walk the Ruta Del Flycsh. That would not been a option if we had not booked a place to sleep that day.

Day 5 - Gernika. Again we “wasted” a lot of time strolling through Gernika instead of heading straight to the Albergue. We could almost have been 1 - 2 in the line. Ended up a 13 - 14. Other pilgrims coming down to Gernika seemed stressed. We meet two pilgrims that ran the last 2km with several blisters, just to get a bed. They were 37 and 38 in the line. The Albergue had 40 beds. We also spotted two people arriving to the albergue by car. They had hitchhiked just to try and reach the albergue in time to get a bed. Our concern was growing. Other pilgrims told us it would only get worse as we went along. This is not what we had imagined. It wasn’t fun seeing the disappointing look on the faces of other pilgrims that had to find somewhere else to sleep. A lot of them had really fought their way over that mountain/hill. In my opinion, they deserved a bed just as much as everyone else there. Brutal.

Day 6 - Bus to Bilbao. Someone accused us of cheating when we told them during breakfast. Is that the Camino spirit? We did not go to a donation-based albergue in Bilbao, because we didn’t want to occupy beds for people that actually walked to the albergue.

Day 7 - Castro Urdiales. We walked almost 43km that day. Both our pace and spirit was high as we approached La Pobeña. Our breaking point came on the beach, 600m away from the albergue. As we were walking on the beach at around 12:30, discussing if to rent a surfboard or not, a man about my age, with a backpack came running past us. Curious of why he was running, I decided to run after him. Since I found the entire situation a bit amusing, I decided to slowly creep up behind him. He spotted me just as I was about to poke him on the back. He let out a loud yell, and started sprinting. I sprinted after him, and then alongside him. He looked absolutely exhausted and stressed out of his mind. I couldn’t stop myself from laughing from the absurdity of the entire situation. I had to jam my shoulder into his, like in a soccer match, since we now were running on a narrow bridge. “Why are you running?” I asked. “The albergue, it is almost full” he yelled back. He started another desperate sprint. I decided to stop. I am not doing a foot race on the Camino. It turned out that some of his friends had arrived earlier than him, and had called him on his phone, telling him to hurry up. When he saw us on the far end of the beach, he decided to run like a maniac. The albergue had 38 beds. He got the last one. Brutal. We pressed on to Tu Camino Hostel. Full. The host helped us with a booking in Castro Urdiales, but we had to be there before 17:00. Not a pleasant day.

So there you have it. We went to Arenillas. There we decided to stop doing the Camino. We will enjoy the rest of our vacation not stressing and racing for beds. Probably never doing this again, at least not in summer. We really enjoyed walking, the coastal view and Spain in general, but the stress of not knowing if you have a bed or not, ruined the overall experience.
Hope someone will find this post helpful/informative, or at the very least a bit entertaining.

Next summer will be spent in hiking in Norway. There is no “bed race” there.
Are you familiar with other less walked Caminos in Spain like Catalan, Ebro, Levante, Madrid, Invierno Mozarabe, Sanabres, Torres etc. south of Frances or Bayona/Vasco del Interior, Olvidado, Besaya, Vadiniense etc. north of Frances? No bed race there. Here is the map (not all of the Caminos on it though):

Buen Camino!
 

Lucy Keenan

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Northern Route - 2016
Santiago to Finestiere and Muxia - 2017
Frances Route - May 2018
Camino Ingles
However...the reservation option is now being collapsed by those who make reservations and do not show up.
Walking pilgrims are denied beds which are being held for those who will not honor the reservation.

Many pilgrims openly brag about making several "reservations" at different points along the days walk so that they can then choose where to stop.:eek::eek:. They do not call and cancel. Most albergues do not accept credit cards so cannot insist on prepayment in any meaningful way.
Those albergues are going to have to start charging as you right. This was happening in May/June on the Frances last year.
 

Ksalud

New Member
So sad that this has happened.
Did not anyone expect this.
Obvious to me 10, 9 7 5, 3 years ago.
An opportunity for income in many rural areas, No easy solution.
The pilgrims will keep coming.
 

Pia Valbak Schmidt

Pilgrim, DK, Caminos 2007,09,11,12,13,14.15,16,18
Camino(s) past & future
2007,2009,2011,2012,2013,2014.2015,2016,2018. Hospitalera 2012,2013,2014,2016,2017
Hi everyone!

I did a lot of reading on this forum before me and my girlfriend decided to walk The Camino Del Norte. I have decided to write this post, since I myself found so much useful information posted and commented by other people. It is important to emphasize that this post is a mixture of subjective feelings, and actual objective observations.

This post is about what me and my girlfriend experienced as a very unpleasant “bed race”. We started from Irún on the 31th of July. We wanted to finish in Santander at the 13th of August, then do the rest some other time. Our plan before leaving was to primarily sleep at the donations-based albergues. The idea was to get the authentic pilgrim experience, but also, since we’re both students, save money.
What we soon learned is that there is not nearly enough beds at the donation-based albergues compared to how many pilgrims actually walking. It does not help that many of the pilgrims walking in the same period as us are also students keen on spending as little a possible. In my opinion, this is the main reason for the “bed race “

I will give you guys a short summary of our day to day experience of this “bed race.”

But before I begin I also feel that I need to provide some contextual information. Both me and my girlfriend are in our mid-twenties. Our backpacks that we carried were light and thoughtfully packed. I carried a 30l, my girlfriend a 40l.
We are both in good shape physically, and we are both Norwegians. The latter means that we are used to walking far in challenging terrain, and we didn’t find the Del Norte particularly hard. Even the infamous Deba - Markina stage was not that big of a deal. I’m writing this just to make clear that we are not ordinary scrubs when it comes to walking and hiking. So our issue wasn’t the walking itself, or not being able to finish the different stages in a reasonable amount of time. Our issue, as I have already mentioned, was the getting a bed.

Day 1 - Irùn. We arrived before the albergue opened. We were 4 and 5 in the line. 60 beds. Was full before 20:30. The volunteers working there had to turn people down.

Day 2 - San Sebastián. We soon discovered that San Sebastián didn’t have a albergue. Strange. We acted quickly, and booked two beds at a hostel. 33€ per person. Pricey, but understandable, since the city was full of tourists.

Day 3 - Zarautz. We kept a good pace, and walked past a lot of other pilgrims. We spent a lot of time sitting on a bench in Zarautz, treating a blister, and discussing if we should walk onwards to Getaria. A lot of the pilgrims that we previously overtook, now came rushing past us. It was only 12:30 in afternoon. We strolled causally to the albergue and meet some of the volunteers working there sitting in the yard. We were number 39 and 40. 54 beds in total. People arriving after 14:00 did not get a bed, and had to try their luck elsewhere. Me and my girlfriend started to get concerned. Is this the case at every albergue?

Day 4 - We booked a cheap accommodation at Ibiri Quarter in the hills after Deba, because we were slowly realizing that we were now competing for beds with the other pilgrims that we met at the albergues. A pleasant day of walking, no rush, so we were able to walk the Ruta Del Flycsh. That would not been a option if we had not booked a place to sleep that day.

Day 5 - Gernika. Again we “wasted” a lot of time strolling through Gernika instead of heading straight to the Albergue. We could almost have been 1 - 2 in the line. Ended up a 13 - 14. Other pilgrims coming down to Gernika seemed stressed. We meet two pilgrims that ran the last 2km with several blisters, just to get a bed. They were 37 and 38 in the line. The Albergue had 40 beds. We also spotted two people arriving to the albergue by car. They had hitchhiked just to try and reach the albergue in time to get a bed. Our concern was growing. Other pilgrims told us it would only get worse as we went along. This is not what we had imagined. It wasn’t fun seeing the disappointing look on the faces of other pilgrims that had to find somewhere else to sleep. A lot of them had really fought their way over that mountain/hill. In my opinion, they deserved a bed just as much as everyone else there. Brutal.

Day 6 - Bus to Bilbao. Someone accused us of cheating when we told them during breakfast. Is that the Camino spirit? We did not go to a donation-based albergue in Bilbao, because we didn’t want to occupy beds for people that actually walked to the albergue.

Day 7 - Castro Urdiales. We walked almost 43km that day. Both our pace and spirit was high as we approached La Pobeña. Our breaking point came on the beach, 600m away from the albergue. As we were walking on the beach at around 12:30, discussing if to rent a surfboard or not, a man about my age, with a backpack came running past us. Curious of why he was running, I decided to run after him. Since I found the entire situation a bit amusing, I decided to slowly creep up behind him. He spotted me just as I was about to poke him on the back. He let out a loud yell, and started sprinting. I sprinted after him, and then alongside him. He looked absolutely exhausted and stressed out of his mind. I couldn’t stop myself from laughing from the absurdity of the entire situation. I had to jam my shoulder into his, like in a soccer match, since we now were running on a narrow bridge. “Why are you running?” I asked. “The albergue, it is almost full” he yelled back. He started another desperate sprint. I decided to stop. I am not doing a foot race on the Camino. It turned out that some of his friends had arrived earlier than him, and had called him on his phone, telling him to hurry up. When he saw us on the far end of the beach, he decided to run like a maniac. The albergue had 38 beds. He got the last one. Brutal. We pressed on to Tu Camino Hostel. Full. The host helped us with a booking in Castro Urdiales, but we had to be there before 17:00. Not a pleasant day.

So there you have it. We went to Arenillas. There we decided to stop doing the Camino. We will enjoy the rest of our vacation not stressing and racing for beds. Probably never doing this again, at least not in summer. We really enjoyed walking, the coastal view and Spain in general, but the stress of not knowing if you have a bed or not, ruined the overall experience.
Hope someone will find this post helpful/informative, or at the very least a bit entertaining.

Next summer will be spent in hiking in Norway. There is no “bed race” there.
I had expieriences quite alike walking the Norte in 2013, 2015 and 2016. It is just the way it is, but it makes it quite a lot more expensive to walk the Camino del Norte 🍀
 

Mera

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino France, Camino del Norte, Camino de Madrid
Camino Porto, Camino Primitivo
Hi everyone!

I did a lot of reading on this forum before me and my girlfriend decided to walk The Camino Del Norte. I have decided to write this post, since I myself found so much useful information posted and commented by other people. It is important to emphasize that this post is a mixture of subjective feelings, and actual objective observations.

This post is about what me and my girlfriend experienced as a very unpleasant “bed race”. We started from Irún on the 31th of July. We wanted to finish in Santander at the 13th of August, then do the rest some other time. Our plan before leaving was to primarily sleep at the donations-based albergues. The idea was to get the authentic pilgrim experience, but also, since we’re both students, save money.
What we soon learned is that there is not nearly enough beds at the donation-based albergues compared to how many pilgrims actually walking. It does not help that many of the pilgrims walking in the same period as us are also students keen on spending as little a possible. In my opinion, this is the main reason for the “bed race “

I will give you guys a short summary of our day to day experience of this “bed race.”

But before I begin I also feel that I need to provide some contextual information. Both me and my girlfriend are in our mid-twenties. Our backpacks that we carried were light and thoughtfully packed. I carried a 30l, my girlfriend a 40l.
We are both in good shape physically, and we are both Norwegians. The latter means that we are used to walking far in challenging terrain, and we didn’t find the Del Norte particularly hard. Even the infamous Deba - Markina stage was not that big of a deal. I’m writing this just to make clear that we are not ordinary scrubs when it comes to walking and hiking. So our issue wasn’t the walking itself, or not being able to finish the different stages in a reasonable amount of time. Our issue, as I have already mentioned, was the getting a bed.

Day 1 - Irùn. We arrived before the albergue opened. We were 4 and 5 in the line. 60 beds. Was full before 20:30. The volunteers working there had to turn people down.

Day 2 - San Sebastián. We soon discovered that San Sebastián didn’t have a albergue. Strange. We acted quickly, and booked two beds at a hostel. 33€ per person. Pricey, but understandable, since the city was full of tourists.

Day 3 - Zarautz. We kept a good pace, and walked past a lot of other pilgrims. We spent a lot of time sitting on a bench in Zarautz, treating a blister, and discussing if we should walk onwards to Getaria. A lot of the pilgrims that we previously overtook, now came rushing past us. It was only 12:30 in afternoon. We strolled causally to the albergue and meet some of the volunteers working there sitting in the yard. We were number 39 and 40. 54 beds in total. People arriving after 14:00 did not get a bed, and had to try their luck elsewhere. Me and my girlfriend started to get concerned. Is this the case at every albergue?

Day 4 - We booked a cheap accommodation at Ibiri Quarter in the hills after Deba, because we were slowly realizing that we were now competing for beds with the other pilgrims that we met at the albergues. A pleasant day of walking, no rush, so we were able to walk the Ruta Del Flycsh. That would not been a option if we had not booked a place to sleep that day.

Day 5 - Gernika. Again we “wasted” a lot of time strolling through Gernika instead of heading straight to the Albergue. We could almost have been 1 - 2 in the line. Ended up a 13 - 14. Other pilgrims coming down to Gernika seemed stressed. We meet two pilgrims that ran the last 2km with several blisters, just to get a bed. They were 37 and 38 in the line. The Albergue had 40 beds. We also spotted two people arriving to the albergue by car. They had hitchhiked just to try and reach the albergue in time to get a bed. Our concern was growing. Other pilgrims told us it would only get worse as we went along. This is not what we had imagined. It wasn’t fun seeing the disappointing look on the faces of other pilgrims that had to find somewhere else to sleep. A lot of them had really fought their way over that mountain/hill. In my opinion, they deserved a bed just as much as everyone else there. Brutal.

Day 6 - Bus to Bilbao. Someone accused us of cheating when we told them during breakfast. Is that the Camino spirit? We did not go to a donation-based albergue in Bilbao, because we didn’t want to occupy beds for people that actually walked to the albergue.

Day 7 - Castro Urdiales. We walked almost 43km that day. Both our pace and spirit was high as we approached La Pobeña. Our breaking point came on the beach, 600m away from the albergue. As we were walking on the beach at around 12:30, discussing if to rent a surfboard or not, a man about my age, with a backpack came running past us. Curious of why he was running, I decided to run after him. Since I found the entire situation a bit amusing, I decided to slowly creep up behind him. He spotted me just as I was about to poke him on the back. He let out a loud yell, and started sprinting. I sprinted after him, and then alongside him. He looked absolutely exhausted and stressed out of his mind. I couldn’t stop myself from laughing from the absurdity of the entire situation. I had to jam my shoulder into his, like in a soccer match, since we now were running on a narrow bridge. “Why are you running?” I asked. “The albergue, it is almost full” he yelled back. He started another desperate sprint. I decided to stop. I am not doing a foot race on the Camino. It turned out that some of his friends had arrived earlier than him, and had called him on his phone, telling him to hurry up. When he saw us on the far end of the beach, he decided to run like a maniac. The albergue had 38 beds. He got the last one. Brutal. We pressed on to Tu Camino Hostel. Full. The host helped us with a booking in Castro Urdiales, but we had to be there before 17:00. Not a pleasant day.

So there you have it. We went to Arenillas. There we decided to stop doing the Camino. We will enjoy the rest of our vacation not stressing and racing for beds. Probably never doing this again, at least not in summer. We really enjoyed walking, the coastal view and Spain in general, but the stress of not knowing if you have a bed or not, ruined the overall experience.
Hope someone will find this post helpful/informative, or at the very least a bit entertaining.

Next summer will be spent in hiking in Norway. There is no “bed race” there.
Thanks for sharing. I walked in April and May, no bed race was necessary. I enjoyed it so much I am thinking about going back next year. Hope your next trip, wherever it might be, will be a enjoyable one. Best of luck!
 

lt56ny

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF2012,Le Puy/CF 2015 Portugues 2017 Norte 2018, CF 2019
Yes, I found similar conditions last July. Finding beds became a lot easier on the Norte after the split with the Primitivo.
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It seemed that many of the locations you mentioned are the "stages" that are usually listed on websites and guides. If you don't stay in those towns it usually is mellower and easier to find beds. I started in late September last year. It was a little crowded but never really a race for beds as far as I could see. A difference I found with the Norte and especially the Frances is that as you go west, and it seemed to start after Santander there are fewer and fewer pilgrims. As Trecile said it really becomes quiet after the split with the Primitivo. I found that once the Camino heads inland there were many days that I did not see more than one or two pilgrims on the trail or in most albergues. it didn't start to pick up until that 100 kilometer mark near Santiago. But you really don't see many until you hit the CF but at the time of year I walked and the large number of albergues (about Oct 30th) there was never a problem.
 

rorerich

CaminoLifer
Camino(s) past & future
2015, 2016, 2017, 2018, (2019)
I have plans to start Sept. 23 in Irun. Please, please, please tell me that my companion and I will avoid this problem by walking later in the season!
 

nickpellatt

Member
Camino(s) past & future
French 2015 Portuguese 2018 Norte May 2019 Finesterre and Muxia April 2019
I have plans to start Sept. 23 in Irun. Please, please, please tell me that my companion and I will avoid this problem by walking later in the season!
I walked in May. And perhaps May, will be similar to late September ... not all the albergues will be open, some are peak month only.

I didnt really struggle too much ... I used an out of date guidebook which didnt always help. An app with up to date listings might be better.

However ... I was always surprised by people who had leisurely breakfasts, stopped for lunch somewhere, then arrived in their destination at 16.30. I think it is a bit of a risk to get a bed if you do that ... so I always believe, or I always prefer ... to get to where I'm going and relax and have lunch there. That way, I think you'll always find a bed.

If you want very leisurely days, or especially want to stop for lunch in a certain place, that would be the time to skip the municipal and book something privately.
 

grayland

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I have plans to start Sept. 23 in Irun. Please, please, please tell me that my companion and I will avoid this problem by walking later in the season!
The simple answer (if your budget will allow) is always be prepared to stay in a pension or other accommodation if the albergues are full. It does provide some mental stress relief if you have made the decision to use other than albergues. if they are not available.
It would help the bed race problem, if people who can afford pensiones would leave the full albergues to the budget pilgrims who need them. That was the original purpose of albergues on the modern camino routes....to supply beds for those who cannot afford normal accommodation.
Somehow. the new thinking is that you must stay in albergues to experience the camino...but transport your pack even if able to carry it....and to skip the boring parts....but you must hurry and grab a cheap bed.

Just an opinion that is held by many and seldom voiced. It is very obvious that this does not apply in any way to those who are physically or otherwise not able to walk distance or carry weight.

To each his own, of course. Just a bit of nostalgia for the "way" it was.
 

LTfit

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Timing your Camino helps, of course this only applies to those who have the option to walk during other seasons. I've walked the Norte several times in early June and in October and I never had a problem finding a bed although this past June there were a few close calls (last bed in Castro Urdiales).

As others have mentioned, staying away from the traditional stops helps.

The Norte has changed quite a bit over the past couple of years, several municipals have closed - in San Sebastián and Comillas for example - being replaced with private albergues that take reservations. This past June many were reserving ahead, it began to seem the new norm.

What many akbergues do is reserve until a certain time, say till 3 or 4 in the afternoon, and if you do not call before to say that you're on the way and will be later, the bed is given to someone else. Of course this is stated at the time of making the reservation.
 

tinavdg

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I am on the Norte at the moment and this has been absolutely my experience. So much so that I didn’t walk today - combination of heavy rain with knowing that most l of the accommodation for the next 20km was reserved before the day began. I didn’t fancy walking 20-30km in the rain and not finding a bed (and even hotels are limited in some areas so really no option at all).

I have a sleeping bag and don’t mind sleeping out (have done so before) but that depends on the weather too.

I have really loved the actual walking but the stress of finding a bed takes the pleasure away.
 

Jean Ti

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I am on the Norte at the moment and this has been absolutely my experience. So much so that I didn’t walk today - combination of heavy rain with knowing that most l of the accommodation for the next 20km was reserved before the day began. I didn’t fancy walking 20-30km in the rain and not finding a bed (and even hotels are limited in some areas so really no option at all).

I have a sleeping bag and don’t mind sleeping out (have done so before) but that depends on the weather too.

I have really loved the actual walking but the stress of finding a bed takes the pleasure away.
This is probably the reality of a lot of people at this time of year, I feel very sorry for you.
 
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All right. Darn! I was hoping to bed race wouldn't be a big issue on the Norte later in the summer...
A few question; those with Norte experience please chime in!
I start walking on August 21-Oct 4, 2019. I was hoping to be past peak summer season but it sounds like I am woefully wrong.
I walk alone, age 58, pretty slow walker; doing the CF last year it was not uncommon for me to walk 10 hour days to stay on my timeline track.
1. What might my first 2-3 weeks be like in terms of the bed race?
Is one day in advance enough time to book a room if I go with private? I have no problem getting "off-stage" but there are a few places that I had my heart set on staying...
2. Are mosquitos a problem (wasn't planning on bug repellant)?
3. Are bed bugs a common issue on the Norte?

Any input would be appreciated; I leave next week for my second Spain adventure.

Thank you, team.
Michelle
 

trecile

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All right. Darn! I was hoping to bed race wouldn't be a big issue on the Norte later in the summer...
A few question; those with Norte experience please chime in!
I start walking on August 21-Oct 4, 2019. I was hoping to be past peak summer season but it sounds like I am woefully wrong.
I walk alone, age 58, pretty slow walker; doing the CF last year it was not uncommon for me to walk 10 hour days to stay on my timeline track.
1. What might my first 2-3 weeks be like in terms of the bed race?
Is one day in advance enough time to book a room if I go with private? I have no problem getting "off-stage" but there are a few places that I had my heart set on staying...
2. Are mosquitos a problem (wasn't planning on bug repellant)?
3. Are bed bugs a common issue on the Norte?

Any input would be appreciated; I leave next week for my second Spain adventure.

Thank you, team.
Michelle
I think that you will be fine booking a day ahead. That's what I did last summer. I did find prices to be higher for private rooms than on the Frances. It's high tourist season through August, so you are competing not just with pilgrims but also with tourists for rooms. I kept a spreadsheet with places I stayed and what I paid. I'm not home right now, but I'll check it when I get home.

I had no problems with mosquitoes on the Norte.
 

Brackman

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A very amusing report, thank you. I caused an International Incident at an Albergue on another Camino this July. At 30 minutes before Opening Time, we calculated that the number of rucsacs placed in the queue was already almost the number of beds. A woman came up and started chatting to her friend who was Number One in the queue, and when the Albergue opened she casually tried to enter as Number Two. I challenged her, and luckily the Hospitalera agreed with me that you can't reserve places in the queue for your friends. She was asked to go to the back of the queue, where she received the final bed.
 

Jbirk

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I’m a self admitted spreadsheet Pilgrim who leaves in two days for the Norte. This is our third Camino and we prefer to stay in private rooms and also like to know our daily destination. I’m in the process of booking now and noticed how expensive this route can be. It rivals the Italian part of the Via Francegina in terms of cost per night.
 

nickpellatt

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I didnt encounter mosquitos in May and June ... different season tho, so not sure about august or later.

My Camino was 50 days, I met one person who got bedbugs, but she got them from a hostel not an albergue.

Booking one day ahead should be OK I think. The few I did book I used booking.com - It wasnt expensive. The Norte was cheaper than the Camino from Santiago to Muxia and Finesterre.
 

domigee

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I didnt encounter mosquitos in May and June ... different season tho, so not sure about august or later.

My Camino was 50 days, I met one person who got bedbugs, but she got them from a hostel not an albergue.
Probably (certainly!) the wrong thread but I’ll mention it whilst I think about it....
Bought a wonderful ‘roll-on stick’ in Spain, in Mercadona (but they also have a similar one in farmacias) as I was bitten by bedbugs on my last night 🙄. It relieves the pain/itch very quickly and effectively.
Unfortunately I forgot to bring it back so can’t remember the name, sorry. If you have been bitten (either bugs, mosquitos etc) just look out for it. It is against ‘picaduras’.
 

William Garza

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My bed race was solved by avoiding the "pulse" of people traveling the same direction the same time was to wait a day if possible to let them get ahead far enough that you are no longer part of that wave.
2. Leave extremely early and get far ahead pushing as it may to get a day ahead.
3. Divert when i could toward a different route to avoid human wave

Driving a lorry,you had those who would stop early enough to "trash" around the rest stops. Filling up the lots early,drinking and raising cane to the detriment of those who needed the space for sleep.
Trash as a euphemism for just sitting there and taking up space,not tired or road weary,making a show of look at me

I wont bedrace unless extremely bad weather or extremely bad people and situations are whats waiting....
But then again the big empty spaces with the sound of silence and like minded company is always attractive to me
 

tinavdg

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Avoiding the ‘pulse’ wasn’t working on the Norte this summer unfortunately as lots of others were thinking the same thing. Literally the next 3 stops were full on my last night there. That was a range from 12km to 30km walk the next day.
 

debra

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Thank for the word.

I have a general question is starting the Camino I hear that 29-5 of a month had a large bubble pilgrims and would like to know if this is still the case on the North?
 

Helen Aussie

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Camino de Saint Jacques 2018
Hi. I am presently on Camino Del Norte. I am a slow Walker until I get fitter. I arrived in Irun by train and arrived at 1430hrs to the Municipal Albergue. It was full by 630pm when we returned from crossing the bridge into Spain. I pre-booked San Sebastian and Zaurutz. I met 3 Spanish women who had to spend a night in a tent with no mattress in Zarautz. I arrived in Deba to find the Municipal Albergue full. These same women couldn't find accommodation either so went on a train somewhere to spend the night. I ended up catching a bus 4 KMs away for the last bed in a Private, wonderful Albergue. I have now pre-booked the next two nights and will continue to do this. I found it stressful arriving and the female, British Albergue volunteer advising me to sleep outside. She showed no empathy or regard to safety of a 65 year old female sleeping outside (me). The system is ridiculous when you can't prebook a Municipal Albergue and the Albergue has no alternative s.
 

Teresita16

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León-Santiago (2015)
Oviedo-Santiago (2016)
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Irún-Santander (2019)
I have just finished walking from Irún to Santander. I started on August 2 and had the same bed race problem. Many times I had to sit in queues for 3 or 4 hours outside albergues. I must admit I always ended up with a bed but many didn't. I met 2 German girls who ended up spending 3 or 4 nights sleeping outside. Lots of people went to Decathlon in Bilbao to buy tents and hamacs as back up plans. The hospitalarios all said that on the 1st August they became overwhelmed with walkers. Apparently July was fine but August is swamped with people. It's not a good month to walk.
 

Bradypus

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Too many and too often!
I found it stressful arriving and the female, British Albergue volunteer advising me to sleep outside. She showed no empathy or regard to safety of a 65 year old female sleeping outside (me).
I think that I can understand your frustration. I am sorry to hear that you found the hospitalera unsympathetic. That is unfortunate. But on the purely practical level what did you expect the hospitalera to do? Throw out someone who had arrived earlier in order to free a space for you? Leaving them in exactly the same position in which you found yourself? In the past there was more leeway to allow people to sleep on sofas or floors when all the beds were taken. But now albergues are more tightly regulated by local authorities and that is simply not allowed for safety reasons.
 
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Antonius Vaessen

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Hi. I am presently on Camino Del Norte. I am a slow Walker until I get fitter. I arrived in Irun by train and arrived at 1430hrs to the Municipal Albergue. It was full by 630pm when we returned from crossing the bridge into Spain. I pre-booked San Sebastian and Zaurutz. I met 3 Spanish women who had to spend a night in a tent with no mattress in Zarautz. I arrived in Deba to find the Municipal Albergue full. These same women couldn't find accommodation either so went on a train somewhere to spend the night. I ended up catching a bus 4 KMs away for the last bed in a Private, wonderful Albergue. I have now pre-booked the next two nights and will continue to do this. I found it stressful arriving and the female, British Albergue volunteer advising me to sleep outside. She showed no empathy or regard to safety of a 65 year old female sleeping outside (me). The system is ridiculous when you can't prebook a Municipal Albergue and the Albergue has no alternative s.
How does the possibility of making a reservation increase the number of beds?. The only difference will be that it is other people thay won't find a bed. You can make reservations in private albergues, hostels, pensions and so on.
 

peregrina2000

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I ended up catching a bus 4 KMs away for the last bed in a Private, wonderful Albergue.
Hi, Helen,
I am wondering if you remember the name of the albergue? The only one I know of that is less than 5 km from Deba on the camino is Izarbide. Could it have been that albergue?

The system is ridiculous when you can't prebook a Municipal Albergue and the Albergue has no alternative s.
I hear your pain. But I think the basic misconception here is that there is a “system.” There is no system, this is not like the Inca Trail where a number of people are let on the trail, all assured of places to sleep, etc. This is a route that runs through hundreds of towns, cities and hamlets. Some governments have built albergues, some churches and non-profit associations run albergues, and the private sector contributes lots of albergues. The different albergue owners may coordinate with each other (or they may have cutthroat competition with each other), but that’s about it. It’s up to each individual pilgrim to figure out his/her own “system”, and I wish you luck in figuring out what will work best for you and your rhythm of walking. Buen camino, Laurie
 

Jbirk

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I’m on the Norte now just outside Markina. I have literally only seen 6 pilgrims since we started in Irun. We do stay in pensions and leave around 9am but I’m surprised reading this and how crowded other people have observed. Buen Camino. Hope to see some of you.
 

Helen Aussie

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Yes, it was Izarbide, the one with the pet pig from Vietnam. They were so helpful. I was unwell. The food and staff were great. I am sorry but I am not camping in a tent alone in Spain. Last night, I stayed at Gernikawith 60 others at YHA. Tonight, I am at Larrabetzu. I was 3rd in the queue at 2pm and now it is full. The volunteer here is wonderful and says they always find beds for people. As you say, there is no system.
 

Luka

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August is the tourist month here. Half of Madrid travels to the northern coast. We have little traffic jams on roundabouts you can normally take with your eyes closed. I prefer to hide on my mountain until August is over. In September I´ll have the beaches to myself again. Together with some lucky pilgrims who are able to walk in a different season.
 
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Having just done the del Norte in June, I would note that the first week out of Irun is the stretch where the facilities are most limited, particularly before Bilbao. August is even more difficult as that is the holiday month for Spain and France and not only do pilgrim numbers increase, they must compete with holiday travellers. I only stayed in pensions, and had no trouble in finding accommodation-- my troubles stemmed from inadequate preparation so that the first week was very tough for me.

But as Peregrina2000 notes, there is no system. I was a bit perplexed that there has been little activity to increase the beds available to meet the growing demand, but perhaps locals are too focussed on the regular summer trade to think much of the pilgrims??
 

domigee

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August is the tourist month here. Half of Madrid travels to the northern coast. We have little traffic jams on roundabouts you can normally take with your eyes closed. I prefer to hide on my mountain until August is over. In September I´ll have the beaches to myself again. Together with some lucky pilgrims who are able to walk in a different season.
You’re very wise 🙂 I decided against the Norte because my holidays are mid-July/August and I know how busy the coast is at that time... As you say, all my Madrid friends are there in the Summer 😁 My husband walked it in September/October and it was fine. Ah well, another project for when I really retire😉
All the best to all of you pilgrims on the Norte, ultreia!
 

Helen Aussie

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I have decided to not continue as there is no enjoyment whatsoever. I think I will stick to walking closer to home.
 

KinkyOne

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Having just done the del Norte in June, I would note that the first week out of Irun is the stretch where the facilities are most limited, particularly before Bilbao. August is even more difficult as that is the holiday month for Spain and France and not only do pilgrim numbers increase, they must compete with holiday travellers. I only stayed in pensions, and had no trouble in finding accommodation-- my troubles stemmed from inadequate preparation so that the first week was very tough for me.

But as Peregrina2000 notes, there is no system. I was a bit perplexed that there has been little activity to increase the beds available to meet the growing demand, but perhaps locals are too focussed on the regular summer trade to think much of the pilgrims??
Not only in Spain and France the August is also main holidays month in Italy - Ferragosto. Can see and feel it on our roads and highways when they are heading for Croatia Adriatic coast :D
 

donalomahony

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I have decided to not continue as there is no enjoyment whatsoever. I think I will stick to walking closer to home.
Sorry to hear about your experience, Helen. Can you let us know a little more about the accommodation issues. Is the bottleneck at the "end" of stages or does it appear all Albergues are filling up? Thanks.
 

Kathar1na

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Not only in Spain and France the August is also main holidays month in Italy - Ferragosto. Can see and feel it on our roads and highways when they are heading for Croatia Adriatic coast :D
Ferragosto is the Italian name of the 15th of August holiday which is also a public holiday in Spain. You and I know this but not everyone around the globe is aware of it. This year it fell on a very felicious day: a Thursday which made it particularly attractive for the working population to go an a short or longer vacation or camino because you need only take leave for one working day (Friday) to have 4 free days in a row. ABC titled: "a prolonged weekend with a feast day in all of Spain with half the country on vacation".

We even have a name for this lucky constellation of days in a calendar year, in several languages: el puente - faire le pont - Brückentag nehmen - a "bridge weekend".
 
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KinkyOne

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Ferragosto is the Italian name of the 15th of August holiday which is also a public holiday in Spain. You and I know this but not everyone around the globe is aware of it. This year it fell on a very felicious day: a Thursday which made it particularly attractive for the working population to go an a short or longer vacation or camino because you need only take leave for one working day (Friday) to have 4 free days in a row. ABC titled: "a prolonged weekend with a feast day in all of Spain with half the country on vacation".

We even have a name for this lucky constellation of days in a calendar year, in several languages: el puente - faire le pont - Brückentag nehmen - a "bridge weekend".
I didn't know that Ferragosto is Aug 15th. The term was used for the whole of August for as long as I remember exactly because of the holidays for Italians.
 

Luka

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But as Peregrina2000 notes, there is no system. I was a bit perplexed that there has been little activity to increase the beds available to meet the growing demand, but perhaps locals are too focussed on the regular summer trade to think much of the pilgrims??
The situation is different from the Francés. There the Camino brought new opportunities to poor and quiet villages, so almost all facilities were and are dedicated to pilgrims. And the season has become longer and longer. Almost all year round by now.

On the northern coast there has been tourism for years before the Norte became popular. The season is very short. It really starts in July and peaks in August. So restaurant and hotel owners have to earn almost all their money in two summer months (and a little bit in June and September and Semana Santa for example).

Tourists spend quite a lot of money. In season hotelrooms and rental homes are expensive and the Spaniards eat out every day and mostly twice. Pilgrims don't spend a lot of money. Houses and buildings on the coast are rare (that's why it is so beautiful and unspoilt) and expensive and the pilgrim season is still rather short. So it is very hard to make a living out of an albergue on the northern coast.

And I guess most towns were less interested in starting a muni because of the lack of a Camino tradition and the lack of the need to attract visitors. Coastal towns are already overcrowded in the summer months.

It is a shame, but I am afraid this isn't going to change.
 

peregrina2000

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One unintentional benefit of all that tourist infrastructure is that if you walk the Norte out of high season, a chunk of those tourist spots belong to people who would rather rent them cheaply than not at all. Last time I walked theNorte it was late June, and four of us found opportunities to rent a tourist apartment in nice places for 60-70€ a night. Two bedrooms, two baths, kitchen etc.
 
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Walking the del Norte in May and in October (different years), I found it much as @peregrina2000 states, and innkeepers were happy to see a pilgrim. More than once, I was the recipient of the attention of all the waiters in an otherwise empty restaurant. However, once out of that season, @Luka's description is accurate and his explanation about the lack of albergues convincing. However, there are student residences in many places which must be empty (unless perhaps they're full of summer students working on their Spanish or their tans) and more than one emptyish convent or monkery which has spare beds. This might be an area where the attention of religious orders could be drawn.
 

Vivello

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I’m on the Norte now just outside Markina. I have literally only seen 6 pilgrims since we started in Irun. We do stay in pensions and leave around 9am but I’m surprised reading this and how crowded other people have observed. Buen Camino. Hope to see some of you.
Jbirk -- I'm headed to the Norte in a few weeks and will be staying in pensions. Did you book ahead, and if so, how far ahead? I'm used to booking the night before when staying in hotels on the Frances. Wondering I can expect the same. Thanks, and Buen Camino.
 

Luka

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@KinkyOne that beautiful song is exactly where I borrowed my nickname from. It was the name I gave to one of my cats.

Luka 1 lr.jpg
 

Luka

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One unintentional benefit of all that tourist infrastructure is that if you walk the Norte out of high season, a chunk of those tourist spots belong to people who would rather rent them cheaply than not at all. Last time I walked theNorte it was late June, and four of us found opportunities to rent a tourist apartment in nice places for 60-70€ a night. Two bedrooms, two baths, kitchen etc.
True! Off season the tourist infrastructure could be an advantage for pilgrims. The more local entrepreneurs are going to see this, the more they might start to cater for pilgrims in spring and autumn.
 

Helen Aussie

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I would say all albergues are filling up plus Spain being on holidays. The beaches are packed. Last year's Camino in France was a breeze compared to this. The plus side is I am now off to Morocco.
 

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