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2017 Invierno guide is DONE and posted!

Discussion in 'Camino de Invierno' started by peregrina2000, Feb 20, 2017.

  1. peregrina2000

    peregrina2000 Moderator Staff Member Donating Member Donating Member

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    https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/resources/camino-de-invierno-2017-edition.535/

    Here's the link, it's in the Resources section. I have a huge debt of gratitude to the forum members who stuck with me through this process. Thanks for your comments, your help, your posting of tracks and pictures to try to clear things up. Special thanks to the 2016 Invierno pilgrims I heard from (sabbott, jlsalt, MJB, Omicko, and chinasky -- if I have forgotten someone, please let me know and I will correct that omission!). Also a huge gracias to @Charrito and @KinkyOne. Our many back and forths obsessing about the details of this turn or that turn and this place or that place helped make this the best edition yet!

    I am hopeful that many more forum members will get the chance to experience this route in 2017, now that the Xunta has made it an "official" camino. And I'm also hoping that you will be moved to "pay it forward" and send updates to me via the forum.

    I will also say that doing these revisions has given me a huge urge to return this summer, but I am going to try to hold off for a couple more years!

    Buen camino, Laurie
     
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    C clearly Veteran Member Donating Member

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    Congratulations and thank you! It has certainly inspired me to think about that route, but probably not this year.
     
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    I'am not perfect, but I'm always myself!!!
    I'm always kind of moved when we people collaborate in making something many others can use. One of the few things that are free today. Congratulations, Laurie!
     
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    Merci et félicitations!
    What a great resource you have prepared!
    So many pilgrims shall be able use this guide in so many ways as they follow in your footsteps.
     
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    Thank you so much! I hope to be on the Invierno this summer!

    Davey
     
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    Laurie, you are my lucky charm. I will start the CF at SJPdP on April 1. Today a friend of mine asked me if I'm taking the Camino de Invierno since I had already walked the CF once. I had never thought of this even though I knew there's an alternative route to the crowded last 100 km of the CF. I looked up the forum... Et voila! You had just posted the 2017 Camino de Invierno guide. I will download it right after this thank-you post to you. Now I know I will walk the Camino de Invierno for sure.

    Buen camino. -Hieu
     
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    Thank you Laurie (and all who contributed) for the labor of love!
    Someday, someday...if I could wiggle out of a Schengen visa deadline I'd be thinking this year.
    But alas. :(
     
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    it has been a pleasure Laurie.

    ps: i'm an happy, 2017 invierno pilgrim :)
     
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    You will love it! Words cannot do justice to this wonderful Camino!
     
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    Laurie:

    A fantastic effort on your part, especially when you had to put up with people like me, KinkyOne and others bombarding you with extra information, slight amendments, alternatives and so on.

    Congratulations and a great big thank you!

    I will NOT be putting off my third Invierno for too much longer. I have convinced my wife to walk at least as far as Chantada with me this June (I'll carry on), and we're already counting down the days!

    My suggestion to all forum members would be to donate a small sum (let's say 25 euros!) for your personal wine-drinking fund! That would entitle you to 10 visits to the wine museum in Monforte de Lemos, with 10 wine tastings!).;););)

    See you in Salamanca soon, I/we hope!
     
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    Thanks to you and all who worked so much on this effort.
     
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    Thanks Laurie & Co. Much appreciated as I am contemplating what to do second half of June.
     
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    Hmmm, my plan for 2018 was to be the Portuguese, then for a couple of reasons, had changed it to walk the Primtivo, with the hope of doing some Hospitalera time. But how lovely it would be to experience a newer and perhaps quieter way.
     
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    Laurie and everyone else, what a wonderful gift to the rest of us. I was thinking of doing the Invierno next year (Gw). This guide will be invaluable - thank you.
     
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    Thank you to Laurie and company for this marvelous guide! I'll be starting the Invierno June 7 in Ponferrada and walking 10-11 days with a friend from Pennsylvania. This pilgrim-produced guide is an excellent way to plan for what is plannable on the camino. I'll be taking notes when we walk in June so that I can hopefully contribute something to the 2018 guide.
     
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    I may well bump into you somewhere up there!
     
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    Hi, Fr, Stuart,
    Hope you have a wonderful Camino de Invierno. And thanks for your offer to help, since it's really the only way to keep the guide up to date. I would love to go back every year to update, but unfortunately that's not possible! Buen camino, Laurie
     
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    Thanks for doing this update, Laurie! I'm looking forward to reading it again as a chance to relive my walk on this beautiful route last spring. If I hadn't had your original pdf (printed out at the last minute at a copy store in Ponferrada) I never could have found my way on the Invierno--and even with your excellent help, it was sometimes a challenge to know where i was! Your guide became very creased and stained as I studied it intently over many a cup of cafe con leche and glass of vino along the way. And what a wonderful time I had....
     
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    Thank you so much Laurie. After spending over 40 hours looking over your material and sending you edits from the perspective of a person who has not het walmed this route I fee ready to walk it and send you more coments after I wak it next May,
     
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    Started in Zamora some days ago, up to Astorga, Ponferrada. Now first day on Camino de Invierno. Very good marking! No open bar until Borrenes (friendly). Dogs barking but stayed on their side of fence. Skipped Villavieja (took the road) Nice weather! Now in Pueno de Domingo Flóres (Hostal la Torre)
     
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    Thanks so much - viva new caminos!
     
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    Göran , good luck on the Invierno and it would be great to hear about your trip on this forum? I am thinking about the route myself for next year so apart from the new guide, any advice or thoughts from yourself would be most welcome.
    But in any case, hope you have a great walk and enjoy Semana Santa on the Camino.
     
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    Thanks,

    I'll be on the Invierno mid-July, if everything goes according to my plans. Last time I didn't have any guide, hence a few misfortunes along the way. This tine I'll be better prepared!

    Bye!

    BP
     
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    Hi Göran,

    I remember Hostal La Torre - liked it. But had to search a long time before I found it... Please tell us more about your journey here on the Forum!

    /BP
     
  25. Göran Larsson

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    I say it again, the best marking ever! Overall very friendly atmosphere. Beautiful landscape. Signed guestbook in bar yesterday, two men from Santander three days ahead of me. "Our" guidebook the best. What else? Now in A Rúa, Quiroga tomorrow.
     
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    I had a brilliant lunch and jaunt in the English countryside today with José Manuel Sánchez Grande (who made the alt route O Camiño Verde). He showed me photos of the Invierno on his phone and now I have decided to do this camino ASAP!
     
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    peregrina2000 Moderator Staff Member Donating Member Donating Member

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    If you have time to add an extra couple of days to your Invierno, consider this beautiful route that leaves from Ponferrada or El Acebo. It would be an amazing combination!

    https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...n-splendor-from-ponferrada-or-el-acebo.27697/
     
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    Wowzers! How busy would they be in August? (I would book in Santiago but don't massively like booking other than that if I don't have to.)
     
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    peregrina2000 Moderator Staff Member Donating Member Donating Member

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    Love that word, wowzers, it is appropriately used in this context! Reb and I met in a private albergue in Ponferrada, then walked to El Acebo on the Puentes de Malpaso trail. Plenty of options there (on the Francés). From there to Peñalba, where there is not much in the way of lodging, so I would reserve in the albergue, it's extremely nice, La Masera (not a camino albergue). But, now that I think of it, there is reported to be a pilgrim albergue there, opened after we walked, but I know nothing about it. Then for the third night we headed back to Ponferrada. Another option would be to walk on a marked trail from Peñalba to As Médulas, which is on the Invierno. Still on my list, it should be very pretty.
     
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    And the Invierno in general?
     
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    On the Invierno, so many of the nights are spent in hostales and pensiones, it just seems to make sense to call them the night before. But reservations are probably not at all necessary in most of the larger towns like Quiroga, Monforte, Barco de Valdeorras, etc, because there are several choices. I also think Asún likes a heads up for her place. But you should have absolutely no trouble. Unless this year (the first after official recognition by the Xunta) sees a massive explosion in numbers.
     
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    Wowee it sounds great. Thanks so much. I am going back to do the Green Way and visit José Manuel in early August, and I can feel another alternative route calling out to me. Do you know how the official recognition came about? I asked José if he aims for official status for the Verde, and he said he doesn't mind really, he would not push for it. He raved about the Invierno though.
     
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    Well, it was years and years of papeleo and meetings and pleadings and begging and official actions, until finally the Xunta accepted the associations' assertions about the historical authenticity of the Camino. I am by no means an expert on this, but the only routes to receive official recognition are those that can establish medieval authenticity, I believe.
     
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    Well, things must be picking up if an untraveled route like this is developing off-route spurs! Goran, did you take it? Looks like a lot of blue sky in the background, hope the weather is good for you. Buen camino, Laurie
     
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    This time next month I'll be on the Invierno. I decided to do a high-intensity training day today since I had the time. 16-18 miles on mostly gravel roads, complete with streams to be forded, loose barking dogs, curious cows, 83 degrees F, a weighted pack and an almost complete lack of facilities or even places to sit and rest until I reached my halfway point at a monastery. Invierno, bring it on! It was a beautiful day deep in the heart of Cherokee County, Oklahoma, and even though my body is presently reminding me of what "first day" on the Camino is like, I can't wait to get on the Invierno.
     
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    Okay,

    I have just downloaded it so I can use it this summer. I am leaving the next week. Thanks!

    /BP
     
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    Always planning the next wee walk.
    That's irony in a nutshell: taking the winter route in summer :D
     
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    I knooow, the name is misleading :OD I would never try it in Winter ;O)
     
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    I can check out those arrows in Barco o Valdeorras that we talked about some year ago... I will get my revenge on the Camino! He he he he :O)

    /BP
     
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    Thanks so much Laurie. It's because of you and the others who produce these wonderful guides that inspires me and gives me the courage to walk different Caminos. You're a star.
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