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claireihle

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Hello all, buenos días! I am starting out on the Camino Primitivo (starting in Oviedo) the first week of September this year and have been busily preparing and reading about the trip. It will be my first camino and I have a few questions.
1) I know the weather in Galicia is famously unpredictable, but how cold will it be in September?
2) I am having trouble finding a light enough sleeping bag (I am attempting to carry 13 pounds or less) any suggestions or alternative options?
3) Is a 40L pack too big?
4) In some of my reading, other camino-ers have mentioned wearing a scalloped shell around their neck, is this something that should be done? And, if so, should I look to the beaches here in California or wait until my arrival?
5) Is 11 days too ambitious for the Camino Primitivo?
6) Any specific guide book recommendations?
7) Any refugios that I should stop at? any to avoid?
8) I am also concerned about training for the trip, any mileage advice?

I'm really excited for the trip, and also extremely nervous (hence the questions). Any advice is welcome. ¡Gracias y qué tenga un buen camino!
-Claire
 
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Welcome to the forum Claire.
An attempt to answer some of your questions:-
Trying to walk in 11 days would be hard; 12 would be OK, 14 would be better.
If your pack is comfortable and you can carry it with the load then 40l is OK. Fit is more important than anything else. There is loads of advice on the Equipment threads - that might help with the sleeping bag question too.
There is a thread about accomodation on the Primitivohttp://www.caminodesantiago.me/board/camino-primitivo/topic4407.html
We used the English CSJ guide - Villaviciosa to Melide covers the Primitivo. Terry walked the whole route using that last year. Gives route, distances and albergues etc
We walked as much as possible, carrying our loaded packs, when training this year as Terry did last. This got our legs going, our boots checked that they did not rub and our packing weight and distribution organised. I knew I could carry my full pack for 12km before we set off. Again Terry had done this in 2009.
Anything else, just ask. There is always someone who will help, or know where you can look for the answer.
Buen Camino
Tio Tel (TerryB) and Tia Valeria
 
Hi Claire,
I'll be walking the Primitivo in August, like you I'm so excited, can't wait. I think the weather will be quite good for both of us, look here http://www.caminodesantiagotiempo.com/c ... /index.htm
As to the albergues there was a really bad one in Salas, but they got a new one a few month ago and people seem to like it a lot. The most famous one, everybody seems to love it, is the one in Bodenaya but it's a small one. I intend to make it a short day to see if I can get there in time for a bed, otherwise....I'll keep walking.
Last year in St Jean I got a scalloped shell in the Pilgrim Office and put in on my backpack, I think most people did but lots of people didn't wear them at all so do as you please. Enjoy your planning, I am :D

Josefine
 
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Hi again Claire, I have to write again because I just read another post under "Bank Machines". It seems another forum member walked last year in August and had some really cold and wet days so we have to be prepared. I'll have to repack again....
Josefine
 
Hi, Claire,

I walked the Camino Primitivo in late Sept-early Oct. in 2008 and absolutely loved it. It is one of the most "unspoiled" of all. It took me 11 days, and I described my stages in this post: camino-primitivo/topic4841.html Whether you can do it in 11 days depends on your fitness level -- I am nearly 60 (so I was 58 then) and didn't have a problem with this pace. Many take more days, many take fewer, it's a very individual thing. If you can I would at least allow for an extra day or two in case something happens that you need to slow down.

As far as weather in September, I think it's likely to be warm but you will probably have some chilly nights. The albergues will probably have blankets, though, nearly all do, so even if your bag is lightweight you can keep warm. I think you'll love it, hope you'll report back! Buen camino, Laurie
 
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¡Hola,Claire - Buenos días!

BACKPACK

I carried the Gregory Women’s Jade 35L backpack. I am 5’5” with a small frame. The pack was great and functioned very well. However, I carried too much weight for me. This might not have been a result of the size of the pack, but of what I put into it. Everyone has a different endurance and physique.

Carry the least amount of weight possible. Practice proper form with the packed backpack before leaving. When fatigued, always maintain an upright posture to avoid potential strain or injury. Be conscious of not bending shoulders and neck forward if fatigued. Perhaps take some time with an experienced hiking expert to ensure your pack is resting properly on the hips and fitting you well over all. Consider walking form for optimal spinal health!

SCALLOP SHELL

For me, the idea of carrying the scallop shell was very important. I don’t think it’s a matter of “should” - but of tradition, a feeling of connection and personal choice. It could be worn around the neck, or pinned to the back of the pack – or anyway that’s comfortable. I imagined they’d be in every shop in Oviedo for purchase ....but alas, there were none easily found. I started the walk alone, and I missed having that identifying symbol...it was disorienting in a way. I would find one at home at the California beach or shops.

DAYS

Hmmm, I believe 11 days is a bit ambitious. However, Laurie’s description was the starting point for my plan and she handled it without trouble. If you’re not under a serious schedule restriction – take more time with this walk. Oviedo, Lugo and Santiago are all beautiful cities worth exploring and spending the day in. Also, if you’re flying in from California – consider taking a day or so in Oviedo to adjust to the time change and to get into a good sleep pattern. I was very tired with jet lag the first day. This was not a great way to start and may have contributed to my issues later on.

GUIDEBOOKS

I carrried the CSJ guide for the Primitivo, as well as the CSJ pages for the Frances that I tore out from the book. I also printed out Laurie’s updates from the CSJ page which were a big help. I have heard that the German guidebooks are great – however, not very practical unless you can read German. Here is a link to the map for the route out from Oviedo Cathedral to the start of the Camino. It might be helpful, as somehow I got lost with just the CSJ and my best intentions....

camino-primitivo/topic6373.html

Additional online sources for the Primitivo stages:

http://www.mundicamino.com/

http://www.caminosantiagoastur.com/?Las ... _Primitivo (in Spanish only)


Ultreya and Buen Viaje!
Kristine
 
I used the Marmot Pounder Plus sleeping bag. It weighs about 1.5 pounds.

My partner used a fleece sleeping bag liner and he was warm enough. It weighs about 1 pound.

Most alburgues supply blankets and pillows. If you are cold, you can always put on more clothes! :)

Buen Camino!
 
Hello

The last website that Kristine (peregrina09) gave is in Spanish but you can use Google translate to get a serviceable and rather charming translation of it.

John
 
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Hello Claire, I'm Nancy, I will also be on the camino primitivo the first on Sept. 2010. We are starting in Villavicosia on Sept. 2nd and hoping to stay 10 km from there. arriving in Oviedo on the 4th. This will be my 4th camino. My first in 2004 from SJPP, 2nd from Porto ,3rd from SJPP and now camino primitivo. I'm looking for the German guide with elevations and maps. i have written to an old friend and hopfully he can come throug with the guide for us. Take with you the minimal amout for gear. Before each trip I have my stuff out on my dining room table for weeks. I look over it and wear it, and walk in it. I usually over pack. The less the better, but I will bring my cork screw. I hope to meet you Claire. Prepare for cold and rain. My last trip I carried all the stuff for bad weather and never needed it. It only rained at night. Let's hope for good weather
"claireihle"]Hello all, buenos días! I am starting out on the Camino Primitivo (starting in Oviedo) the first week of September this year and have been busily preparing and reading about the trip. It will be my first camino and I have a few questions.
1) I know the weather in Galicia is famously unpredictable, but how cold will it be in September?
2) I am having trouble finding a light enough sleeping bag (I am attempting to carry 13 pounds or less) any suggestions or alternative options?
3) Is a 40L pack too big?
4) In some of my reading, other camino-ers have mentioned wearing a scalloped shell around their neck, is this something that should be done? And, if so, should I look to the beaches here in California or wait until my arrival?
5) Is 11 days too ambitious for the Camino Primitivo?
6) Any specific guide book recommendations?
7) Any refugios that I should stop at? any to avoid?
8) I am also concerned about training for the trip, any mileage advice?

I'm really excited for the trip, and also extremely nervous (hence the questions). Any advice is welcome. ¡Gracias y qué tenga un buen camino!
-Claire[/quote]
 
Hello Clare, I did the Primitivo early June. I thouroughly enjoyed this as my latter half of my camino. As long as you are healthy you will manage it in your own time and pace, almost independent of fitness levels, it is not as daunting as has been implied BUT you will have to organise your destinations and do a few long days walking.

1) I know the weather in Galicia is famously unpredictable, but how cold will it be in September?
Things have been hotting up from May & then there were showery days, then sun and real heat followed a few days after with deluges of rain ! Hence weatherwise you can expect anything during the days but for sure cool at night and mornings.
3) Is a 40L pack too big? No, as long as the pack itself is not too heavy and you have a good rain cover for it. You need enough for all weathers but do not overpack. Multiple layers are best and daily washing of clothes (pants, socks, top especially) on rotational wear the norm.
4) In some of my reading, other camino-ers have mentioned wearing a scalloped shell around their neck, is this something that should be done? And, if so, should I look to the beaches here in California or wait until my arrival? Scallop shells are optional but are a good sign to show your pilgrimage intent to locals and other pilgrims. Also better to put on back of your backpack, but not so that it rattles.
5) Is 11 days too ambitious for the Camino Primitivo? Not at all as long as you are reasonably fit and prepared. I did it in 10 days without rushing but doing longish days walking, socialising and taking in the route. The good dry weather also helped, as did my fitness levels.
6) Any specific guide book recommendations? If you know spanish or can follow it see webpage http://www.caminotineo.com and there is caminotineo@infonegocio.com. I was given a handbook with loads of information routes tel nos. etc recent 3rd edition of which is up to date 'Guia Camino Primtivo'. Beware massive road work and quarry beyond El fresno all the way to Quintana. But generally the route is very well marked with the obelisks and yellow arrows. The english Confraternity of St. James guide is what I had as my original basis. Its fine, although a little confusing (occassionaly inaccurate) on distances between places described.

7) Any refugios that I should stop at? any to avoid? Salas, new albergue, is fine but small and not very many alternatives. Private Cafe Hermiana, in Campiello is great, new sleeping place, good honest food and sociable. I heard grandas de salime was considered pretty poor but avoided it myself by chance by doing a long walk that day.

I am also concerned about training for the trip, any mileage advice?
As usual, get used to shoes, socks and carrying your weighted bag.. More long walks, hills and consecutive days walked the better but you should not be too preoccupied about it all. Planning helps as much as fitness. But you can have a rough plan/idea but then leave it to the evening before or even morning departure to fully know what you have in mind for the day. After all it is a pilgrimage and not a race. First few days will tell you whether your initial plans are right for you or not.
Enjoy, Buon Camino !
Valdis, England.
 
Hello Clare, I did the Primitivo early June. I thouroughly enjoyed this as my latter half of my camino. As long as you are healthy you will manage it in your own time and pace, almost independent of fitness levels, it is not as daunting as has been implied BUT you will have to organise your destinations and do a few long days walking.

1) I know the weather in Galicia is famously unpredictable, but how cold will it be in September?
Things have been hotting up from May & then there were showery days, then sun and real heat followed a few days after with deluges of rain ! Hence weatherwise you can expect anything during the days but for sure cool at night and mornings.
3) Is a 40L pack too big? No, as long as the pack itself is not too heavy and you have a good rain cover for it. You need enough for all weathers but do not overpack. Multiple layers are best and daily washing of clothes (pants, socks, top especially) on rotational wear the norm.
4) In some of my reading, other camino-ers have mentioned wearing a scalloped shell around their neck, is this something that should be done? And, if so, should I look to the beaches here in California or wait until my arrival? Scallop shells are optional but are a good sign to show your pilgrimage intent to locals and other pilgrims. Also better to put on back of your backpack, but not so that it rattles.
5) Is 11 days too ambitious for the Camino Primitivo? Not at all as long as you are reasonably fit and prepared. I did it in 10 days without rushing but doing longish days walking, socialising and taking in the route. The good dry weather also helped, as did my fitness levels.
6) Any specific guide book recommendations? If you know spanish or can follow it see webpage http://www.caminotineo.com and there is caminotineo@infonegocio.com. I was given a handbook with loads of information routes tel nos. etc recent 3rd edition of which is up to date 'Guia Camino Primtivo'. Beware massive road work and quarry beyond El fresno all the way to Quintana. But generally the route is very well marked with the obelisks and yellow arrows. The english Confraternity of St. James guide is what I had as my original basis. Its fine, although a little confusing (occassionaly inaccurate) on distances between places described.

7) Any refugios that I should stop at? any to avoid? Salas, new albergue, is fine but small and not very many alternatives. Private Cafe Hermiana, in Campiello is great, new sleeping place, good honest food and sociable. I heard grandas de salime was considered pretty poor but avoided it myself by chance by doing a long walk that day.

I am also concerned about training for the trip, any mileage advice?
As usual, get used to shoes, socks and carrying your weighted bag.. More long walks, hills and consecutive days walked the better but you should not be too preoccupied about it all. Planning helps as much as fitness. But you can have a rough plan/idea but then leave it to the evening before or even morning departure to fully know what you have in mind for the day. After all it is a pilgrimage and not a race. First few days will tell you whether your initial plans are right for you or not.
Enjoy, Buon Camino !
Valdis, England.
 
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I went to the site described above http://www.caminotineo.com which looked interesting but, unfortunately, the miracles of modern technology (Google Translate) didn't work on it for reasons I have no idea of. The technology can be great when it works and disapointing when it doesn't.

John
 
Thank you all for such great responses! I'm getting more and more excited about my trip as I continue to plan (planning has taken place of the work I should be doing this summer....oh well).

Nancy: I look forward to crossing 'paths' on the 'camino' I'm not sure exactly what day we will set out from Oviedo because I'm imagining the time change from california to be slightly difficult, but it will be in the first few days of our arrival. I've also heard the German guide is good, especially for elevation information. Unfortunately, I wonder if not speaking German would be a hindrance. I've been testing out my gear recently, which has been a great excuse to get out to the mountains this summer.

Valdis: Thanks for the websites, they look great. It's good to hear from someone who has done the Primitivo so recently, I'm glad that you enjoyed it.

This forum has been really helpful, thanks to all again :)

-Claire
 
Hi Claire,

I just arrived home from my Camino(s).

About the Primitivo :

- In July, it still could be quite cold as well in the mornings as in the evenings - due to the fog or the wind. There was one full day of rain, that's it. But for that one day, I was happy to have at least my raincape with me. (and I had wished not to have sent back my rainjacket...). Btw, I had a lightweight down sleeping bag (http://www.phdesigns.co.uk/sleepingbags.php?cat=26; about 550 gr) with me and used it most of the time.

- Most of the Albergues were quite correct, some nicer than others. And except in Berducedo ("cluster" of people that day), I had no problem to find a bed. The albergue of "La Mesa" seems to be very very bad, and the one of Grandas de Salime is quite "poor" (but the one of Castro is just 5 kms from Grandas and really recommendable!)

- About the 11 days : Well, it is up to you, to your body, your preparation ... But up to me, it sounds a bit "short". I did the Camino in 13 stages (or 12 and a half as the first one from Oviedo to Escamplero was only 12,5 km) and it was just fine. Some stages were longer (about 30 kms, and one of 40 km), but as I was on other 'mountain caminos' before, I was fine with that. Some parts of the Primitivo are quite 'hard stuff' but doable, just listen to your body, slow down your pace, make breaks...
The best might be to count more days than that (in case you need a resting day or you find out that you prefer a slower rhythm).

I wish you all the best, and 'buen camino'.

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After all this time preparing, I'm leaving in less than a week and starting the camino in a week and a half. Any last minute advice? Now the nerves are starting to set in and I also can't wait!
 
ADVICE AND REPORT ON THE CAMINO PRIMITIVO
This is Ange - I walked with a French group in July and found that the mornings could be quite chilly. Everyone gets up before six and dresses in the dark. The Spaniards would take off at 6 without breakfast and stop at a bar for cafe con leche and tostados around ten. They would then walk right through till they arrived at the Albergue between 2 and 5 depending on the kilometres. My group, being French – say no more... would have breakfast before leaving – sometimes outside in the dark, then stop for coffee when passing a bar, then stop for a picnic lunch. This ended up with us always arriving in later and on a few occasions not getting a bed. We had two small tents which we used on a couple of occasions. I will do the promised report on available camping spots in a separate note.
Anyway, my advice on the Primitivo is to bring a rectangular pillowcase to put over their pillows, and to pop your fleece/clothes into it on the rare occasion that there are no pillows. The nearer you get to Santiago the more likely the hospitalero will hand you a disposable fitted sheet and pillowcase to use. All albergues had a blanket. Some albergues only have a visiting hospitalero who turns up to book everyone in around 5pm so its first come first served for the beds. If they are closed hunt down the nearest bar for info/key.
Some of the mornings from Grado onwards were foggy and one morning it rained heavily. A warm lightweight fleece (I bought mine from Decathlon which has branches at all big cities in France, Spain and Portugal (I saw signs for one on the outskirts of Oviedo), and an impermeable of some kind will keep you dry on the foggy starts, the humidity was pretty bad and even my backpack straps were soggy.
Everyone raves about Bordenaya but to fit it in means either very short or long stages. Shorter means more days but for this part of the Primitivo maybe worth it. My suggested stages, which my group did not follow are: Day 1 Oviedo to Escamplero (9 kms). up hill above Oviedo into lovely rolling scenery. There is an Ermita with a selos that was open in July. Day 2 Escamplero to Cornellano (23kms). After Grado a climb up past the albergue San Juan de Villapanada and down into the valley and a wonderful albergue in the old monastery at Cornellano Or carry on to Salas (EtoS 37?)– mountain town with a river running right through – the new albergue is in a modern apartment block over the river in the new part of town and the nearby bars have the key not many beds. Day 3 Cornellano to Bordenaya (16kms)– a short stage but so worth being able to stop at Alex Gonzales’ albergue. We walked past in the morning having been redirected to Cabrunana from Villapanada which was full and ended up walking several kilometres on tarmac the next morning to pick up the route again. We stopped to say hello and were given fresh milk, and morning biscuits by Alex and his family. Their little girl gave us all little yellow arrow pin badges and we shared some Pruneaux d’Agen and left some cereal bars for the little girl. Day 4 Bordenaya to Tineo or Borres or Pola de Allande (BtoT 16kms BtoB 30kms BtoPola 37-40?) Tineo Albergue is modern, clean and bars and shops right nearby. If you carried on to Salas on day 3 then day 4 to Tineo is about 18-20kms) The albergue at Borres is unattended, key in a box, full of flies but does have loos and shower, microwave and plenty of beds (no shops or bar) most pilgrims stamped their credencias and carried on to Pola. Day 5 Assume Tineo to Pola de Allande. Mud in bad weather – this is where the walking batons really proved useful to find buried stepping stones. Also the start of heavy downhills and uphills. For anyone overweight like me they allowed my arms to pull some of my weight uphill and took the shock and kept me balanced downhill, saving my knees. Day 6Pola to La Mesa nothing here so have food wth you ((20kms) Day 7La Mesa to Grandas de Salime (20kms) This stage is really hard with fantastic scenery, very little shade, and massive downhill to Grandas – don’t try to do both stages in one day. The albergue in Grandas is really bad. We booked into a pension opposite cafe La Regeida. Twin room for 14 euros each. The albergue in Castro has reopened and we went past it in the morning – they do breakfast:.(5 more kms) Day 8 Grandas or Castro to Padron (28/22kms) outskirts of village and O Fonsagrado small town. First taste of the Santiago cake. Padron was next to road; but clean with small rooms of 4 bunks but only one bathroom each for M/W.Day 9 Padron to Cadavo Baleira (29kms) Modern albergue – full so booked into Hotel Moneda (twin room 16 euros each). Day10 Cadavo to Lugo (29kms) got the last four beds – walled city lots of places to eat, shopping and sightseeing. Day 11 Lugo to St Roman de Retorta (20?) full so we ended up in Augus Santas – list given to us in the Tourist office in Lugo. Augus Santas is a district, so we nearly missed the actual hamlet with a school – no showers – it was after Ferreira with Roman bridge. Slept on the floor. If St Roman is full once you arrive on a village road after Ferreira ask someone.Day12St Roman to Melide (25kms) JOIN CAMINO FRANCES.
The most useful information was on the site http://www.mundicamino.com click on the yellow bar for Camino Primitivo, then start with No.1 Oviedo to Grado then click on the left Trazado/Perfil (line/outline) repeat and print off each stage. These give the ups and downs and distances which proved invaluable. I cut off the superfluous bits; but left the bottom clear and added notes on all the albergues which are available on the other pages – perhaps worth printing off the photos of the Albergues so that you know what to look for. You can then work out your stages, distances and albergue stops for yourself. Check other sites for up to date albergue info and Tourist Offices when you arrive in the bigger towns.
You will see from the profiles that a lot of the Camino Primitivo is at increasing altitudes which can make you feel more tired and sick. Be aware of this and make sure you eat – get something cooked when you can – the bars and restaurants in the villages and towns are not expensive. When you join the Camino Frances in Melide if you like seafood, specifically octopus then the Pulperia opposite a small Ermita in the town centre is a must. No plates, knives or forks, just wooden ‘tooth’ picks, wooden platters of octopus cooked then served hot with olive oil and paprika, crunchy flat bread with ‘elastic’ centre and boiled potatoes with more olive oil and lemon. House wine was served in little terracotta bowls: Finish off with a slice of Santiago cake: Cost all in about 8 euros each. The atmosphere was incredible. Buen Camino!
 
Thanks to everyone on the advice on the Camino Primitivo. I did the Camino Norte in June/July, 31 days and found it treacherous but the view was excellent markers were real bad and I found most Albergues as well..nevertheless I enjoyed the time. I walked the last 10 days of the trip with a young guy from California he was a great companion..thanks Kent.
So I have decide to do the Primitivo in early June of 2011any advice would be appreciated..looking forward to this trip.I am also attempting to walk from Lourdes France into Spain before the Camino Primitivo.
chao,
n.
 
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Hi Nathanael,
I walked the Primitivo in the last 2 weeks of September 2010 and recommend it highly. Its not easy but not as difficult as I had feared. I found the waymarking to be excellent. In case they are of use here are my comments on the places I stayed.
Oviedo - albergue opened at 5pm. €3. Small but good.
San Juan de Villapanada - albergue with fantastic views. Donativo. No shop or bar in village but albergue has vending machines and bottles of wine for sale on a self service basis.
Salas - Hotel Solo behind church in main plaza. €20 for small but adequate single room with en suite.
Campiello - Albergue Herminia €13 for bed in room with 25 others. Not good value but room was clean and modern. Had I opted to eat in her bar perhaps Herminia might have reduced the price.
Polla de Allande - Hotel Allendesa €30 for double room. Ok
Berducedo - private albergue on way out of village. €10 for bed in room with 7 others or €30 for a private room.
Castro - albergue €11 for bed in room with 3 others. Can book by ringing ahead, phone number displayed in private albergue in Berducedo and English is spoken. Highly recommended. Visit museum (200 meters away)for €4 with guided tour of ruins of ancient fortress.
Padron - albergue. Standard price (€3 to €5) room with 4 beds. Highly recommended.
Cadavo - albergue at standard price. Modern and good.
Logo - ditto
San Roman ditto. Small (12 places) but bar owner in San Roman (half mile before albergue) can arrange taxi to hotels.
Ribadiso - albergue at standard price. Modern and good.
Lavacolla and Santiago - hotels.
Its a great route. Enjoy.

Many thanks to all prevous posters whose comments helped me greatly.

Dave
 
Hello

Just a note about the Albergue Herminia in Campiello. I stayed there with several people I was travelling with in September. The Albergue was new and clean but not cheap. We ate at Herminia's bar across the street and it wasn't very good. Not horrible but not very good. The wine was homemade and again not very good.

john
 
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Ange said:
ADVICE AND REPORT ON THE CAMINO PRIMITIVO
This is Ange - I walked with a French group in July and found that the mornings could be quite chilly. Everyone gets up before six and dresses in the dark. The Spaniards would take off at 6 without breakfast and stop at a bar for cafe con leche and tostados around ten. They would then walk right through till they arrived at the Albergue between 2 and 5 depending on the kilometres. My group, being French – say no more... would have breakfast before leaving – sometimes outside in the dark, then stop for coffee when passing a bar, then stop for a picnic lunch. This ended up with us always arriving in later and on a few occasions not getting a bed. We had two small tents which we used on a couple of occasions. I will do the promised report on available camping spots in a separate note.
Anyway, my advice on the Primitivo is to bring a rectangular pillowcase to put over their pillows, and to pop your fleece/clothes into it on the rare occasion that there are no pillows. The nearer you get to Santiago the more likely the hospitalero will hand you a disposable fitted sheet and pillowcase to use. All albergues had a blanket. Some albergues only have a visiting hospitalero who turns up to book everyone in around 5pm so its first come first served for the beds. If they are closed hunt down the nearest bar for info/key.
Some of the mornings from Grado onwards were foggy and one morning it rained heavily. A warm lightweight fleece (I bought mine from Decathlon which has branches at all big cities in France, Spain and Portugal (I saw signs for one on the outskirts of Oviedo), and an impermeable of some kind will keep you dry on the foggy starts, the humidity was pretty bad and even my backpack straps were soggy.
Everyone raves about Bordenaya but to fit it in means either very short or long stages. Shorter means more days but for this part of the Primitivo maybe worth it. My suggested stages, which my group did not follow are: Day 1 Oviedo to Escamplero (9 kms). up hill above Oviedo into lovely rolling scenery. There is an Ermita with a selos that was open in July. Day 2 Escamplero to Cornellano (23kms). After Grado a climb up past the albergue San Juan de Villapanada and down into the valley and a wonderful albergue in the old monastery at Cornellano Or carry on to Salas (EtoS 37?)– mountain town with a river running right through – the new albergue is in a modern apartment block over the river in the new part of town and the nearby bars have the key not many beds. Day 3 Cornellano to Bordenaya (16kms)– a short stage but so worth being able to stop at Alex Gonzales’ albergue. We walked past in the morning having been redirected to Cabrunana from Villapanada which was full and ended up walking several kilometres on tarmac the next morning to pick up the route again. We stopped to say hello and were given fresh milk, and morning biscuits by Alex and his family. Their little girl gave us all little yellow arrow pin badges and we shared some Pruneaux d’Agen and left some cereal bars for the little girl. Day 4 Bordenaya to Tineo or Borres or Pola de Allande (BtoT 16kms BtoB 30kms BtoPola 37-40?) Tineo Albergue is modern, clean and bars and shops right nearby. If you carried on to Salas on day 3 then day 4 to Tineo is about 18-20kms) The albergue at Borres is unattended, key in a box, full of flies but does have loos and shower, microwave and plenty of beds (no shops or bar) most pilgrims stamped their credencias and carried on to Pola. Day 5 Assume Tineo to Pola de Allande. Mud in bad weather – this is where the walking batons really proved useful to find buried stepping stones. Also the start of heavy downhills and uphills. For anyone overweight like me they allowed my arms to pull some of my weight uphill and took the shock and kept me balanced downhill, saving my knees. Day 6Pola to La Mesa nothing here so have food wth you ((20kms) Day 7La Mesa to Grandas de Salime (20kms) This stage is really hard with fantastic scenery, very little shade, and massive downhill to Grandas – don’t try to do both stages in one day. The albergue in Grandas is really bad. We booked into a pension opposite cafe La Regeida. Twin room for 14 euros each. The albergue in Castro has reopened and we went past it in the morning – they do breakfast:.(5 more kms) Day 8 Grandas or Castro to Padron (28/22kms) outskirts of village and O Fonsagrado small town. First taste of the Santiago cake. Padron was next to road; but clean with small rooms of 4 bunks but only one bathroom each for M/W.Day 9 Padron to Cadavo Baleira (29kms) Modern albergue – full so booked into Hotel Moneda (twin room 16 euros each). Day10 Cadavo to Lugo (29kms) got the last four beds – walled city lots of places to eat, shopping and sightseeing. Day 11 Lugo to St Roman de Retorta (20?) full so we ended up in Augus Santas – list given to us in the Tourist office in Lugo. Augus Santas is a district, so we nearly missed the actual hamlet with a school – no showers – it was after Ferreira with Roman bridge. Slept on the floor. If St Roman is full once you arrive on a village road after Ferreira ask someone.Day12St Roman to Melide (25kms) JOIN CAMINO FRANCES.
The most useful information was on the site http://www.mundicamino.com click on the yellow bar for Camino Primitivo, then start with No.1 Oviedo to Grado then click on the left Trazado/Perfil (line/outline) repeat and print off each stage. These give the ups and downs and distances which proved invaluable. I cut off the superfluous bits; but left the bottom clear and added notes on all the albergues which are available on the other pages – perhaps worth printing off the photos of the Albergues so that you know what to look for. You can then work out your stages, distances and albergue stops for yourself. Check other sites for up to date albergue info and Tourist Offices when you arrive in the bigger towns.
You will see from the profiles that a lot of the Camino Primitivo is at increasing altitudes which can make you feel more tired and sick. Be aware of this and make sure you eat – get something cooked when you can – the bars and restaurants in the villages and towns are not expensive. When you join the Camino Frances in Melide if you like seafood, specifically octopus then the Pulperia opposite a small Ermita in the town centre is a must. No plates, knives or forks, just wooden ‘tooth’ picks, wooden platters of octopus cooked then served hot with olive oil and paprika, crunchy flat bread with ‘elastic’ centre and boiled potatoes with more olive oil and lemon. House wine was served in little terracotta bowls: Finish off with a slice of Santiago cake: Cost all in about 8 euros each. The atmosphere was incredible. Buen Camino!

Ange--Thanks so much for your post!! I am planning a trip on the Primativo and your suggestions for the stages look very realistic when searching for shorter days. I am not fit at the moment but have walked long distances ( a 7 month mountain trek) in the past. This was ten years ago so I am a bit worried about the distances but plan to keep my pack very light. My desire to walk the Primativo includes the solitude for reflection and also the scenary and your post has given me much encouragement. Surely from looking at photos this appears to be a very beautiful path! Thanks again!
 
Hi: I am in Muxia and contemplating another Camino. Porque no Primitivo. Can anyone point me to a guide for doing roughly 25-30k per day? If someone did it at that rate how many days? Thanks,
 
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Hi: I am in Muxia and contemplating another Camino. Porque no Primitivo. Can anyone point me to a guide for doing roughly 25-30k per day? If someone did it at that rate how many days? Thanks,
Editorial Buen Camino, or the Cicerone books are good. Both inlude the Norte and Primitivo.

The usual websites all have info in the Primitivo as well.

As for chosing your distances, that may require a bot a planning as you will not find an albergue every 5 or 10km to make combinations that necessarily fot your criteria.
 
The guide made by one of our forum member is what we used for our 2 week Primitivo. Along with the Wise Pilgrim App.
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...tiago-and-then-to-muxia-finisterre-guide.225/

Her stages are in the range of 22-30 and will let you figure out longer stages if you want. You can also go to this website http://www.urcamino.com/ and put in how many mile you want to walk and it will spit out an itinerary with days. Great for adjusting and playing with options.

This looks perfect for me Alaskadiver. I used the Via de la Plata Guide from the Forum earlier in the year and it was all I needed. This one looks even more detailed. Thanks very much.
 
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Here is what I used as a guide for a 12 day Primitivo Camino in May. Hopefully, it is self-explanatory.
 

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This looks perfect for me Alaskadiver. I used the Via de la Plata Guide from the Forum earlier in the year and it was all I needed. This one looks even more detailed. Thanks very much.
It's the only guide we needed. I the wise pilgrim app but that just gave me a little more info.
 
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Hi Claire and welcome.
The Primitivo is a wonderful camino, I walked it in 2014. I really recommend taking the route via hospitales. the weather should be warm the first week of September but that is not guaranteeable. Galicia has had very little rain so far this year and it has been hot for months so it must change at some point.
You can see my photos on my blog: notdunroaminyet.blogspot.com for October 2014.
Buen camino
Sue
 
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Hello all, buenos días! I am starting out on the Camino Primitivo (starting in Oviedo) the first week of September this year and have been busily preparing and reading about the trip. It will be my first camino and I have a few questions.
1) I know the weather in Galicia is famously unpredictable, but how cold will it be in September?
2) I am having trouble finding a light enough sleeping bag (I am attempting to carry 13 pounds or less) any suggestions or alternative options?
3) Is a 40L pack too big?
4) In some of my reading, other camino-ers have mentioned wearing a scalloped shell around their neck, is this something that should be done? And, if so, should I look to the beaches here in California or wait until my arrival?
5) Is 11 days too ambitious for the Camino Primitivo?
6) Any specific guide book recommendations?
7) Any refugios that I should stop at? any to avoid?
8) I am also concerned about training for the trip, any mileage advice?

I'm really excited for the trip, and also extremely nervous (hence the questions). Any advice is welcome. ¡Gracias y qué tenga un buen camino!
-Claire
Hope to see you. You probably will be zooming by me!
 
I thought the list was only of where he had stayed, not a list of all options.
It was indeed a listing of all places on the Camino route, as listed by Gronze back in March. I'm not sure what @alaskadiver thought I missed on the list but it doesn't matter much. I actually stayed in one of the listed pensions in Fonsagrada - two nights because of a lack of beds in Castro. I made the list as a simple stage planning tool.
 
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It was indeed a listing of all places on the Camino route, as listed by Gronze back in March. I'm not sure what @alaskadiver thought I missed on the list but it doesn't matter much. I actually stayed in one of the listed pensions in Fonsagrada - two nights because of a lack of beds in Castro. I made the list as a simple stage planning tool.
You're right it doesn't matter. There are more comprehensive guides out there for people who want more detailed info. I misunderstood , and thought you were listing all available options, not just what you got from Gronze. It's missing a couple things. Doesn't matter. The OP found what she was looking for it seems.
 
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I thought the list was only of where he had stayed, not a list of all options.
Yes, that must be it because he's missing La Doriga and the 3rd albergue in Fonsagrada. That's what I like about Laurie's guide the Wise Pilgrim app. They include every possible option. Which was nice to have.
 
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