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Albergue de Monsanto

Discussion in 'Walking to Fatima' started by Rodrigo Cerqueira, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:54 AM.

  1. Rodrigo Cerqueira

    Rodrigo Cerqueira Member Donating Member

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    Thank you mister Rodrigo for the update and for the links. Que la luz de Dios alumbre su camino.
     
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    Thanks for your kind words and I hope the light of our Caminhos helps other pilgrims to find their ways.
     
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    Wow, looks beautiful! Well done and thank you.
     
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    Wow! Monsanto is an amazing village in Portugal, with houses built right onto the sides of huge boulders and a big castle on the edge of town, it must have some special historic designation. All preserved to a very high standard. It may have been in a different stone village of Portugal, but I think I remember someone telling me there that all telecommunications lines have been buried, all satellite dishes placed outside the historic core, etc. so as not to burst the bubble of returning to the past.

    But my question is, what Caminho is this on? I can't figure that one out. Thanks, Rodrigo.
     
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  6. Rodrigo Cerqueira

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    Hi Laurie, thanks for your coments. It’s a petty but this is a different “Monsanto” on the Caminho do Tejo in the south of Fátima. I wouldn’t mind to have a Caminho that crossed the Monsanto you have described so well.
    What it’s special about this Monsanto it’s the fact that they acepeted our challenge 3 years ago to recover a old house creating a very basic Albergue. And now they are improving they’re initial work.
     
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    OOPS, so sorry I messed that up completely. :confused: But I can't find it on your map or google maps. Is it south of Santarem? What would a possible starting point be for the day we would sleep in Monsanto?
     
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    looks really lovely!

    it's about 34km from santarém and about 26km before fatima, before the only big climb of caminho do tejo.
     
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    Good Morning Laurie. Monsanto its located on the last stage between Olhos de Agua and Fátima (Caminho do Tejo). This is Mountain Stage so in the winter it can be cold. The Albergue of Monsanto doesn't have central heating. We recommend pilgrim that have plans to stay in Monsanto during the winter to take a warm sleeping bag. The Albergue of Olhos de Agua has central heating for the cold weather and a the nice source of the Alviela River for the Summer. In Monsanto the parish also hosts big groups of pilgrims.

    Please check the full guide of the Caminho do Tejo: http://www.caminho.com.pt/guias_e.html

    olhos_de_agua_fatima.jpg
     
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    I hope I'm not making another mistake, but I think that this post https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/caminho-nascente-fatima-tomar.38892/ has additional information about how pilgrims can walk from the Caminho de Santiago to Fatima and then back to the Caminho again. The recommendation seems to be, go to Tomar (no one walking from Lisbon should miss the opportunity to visit Tomar, IMO) and from there take the Caminho Nascente.

    To round out the discussion, Rodrigo, a question about leaving Fatima. Am I right that the pilgrim has to choose between going back to Tomar to rejoin the Caminho de Santiago, or continuing on the Caminho Norte de Fatima, which will reconnect with the Caminho de Santiago near Coimbra?

    Of course for those who don't mind hopping on a bus, I assume there is transportation available from either Tomar or Santarem for a day visit?

    I have seen an increase in interest from Santiago pilgrims who want to include Fatima in their caminho, so I really appreciate your organization's interest in reaching out to that group. Laurie
     
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    Laurie that post has published by Mario the owner of Hostel Santarem. He copied parts of the contents we (AACF) published on our facebook and website.

    From Fátima pilgrims can go north and return to the Caminho de Santiago in Ansião. (Two days before Coimbra). Or go East via the Caminho Nascente to Tomar.

    According to our pilgrim passports we noticed the number of pilgrims coming from Santiago to Fátima its growing. Usually this pilgrims that come from Santiago follow to the sea via the Caminho Poente.

    Thanks for your interest.
     
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    Hi Rodrigo and Laurie
    My post that Rodrigo mentioned it is only about the new "Caminho da Nascente" towards Tomar.
    And starts
    "For those who want to visit Fatima and return asap to the Caminho de Santiago.
    Text by Rodrigo Cerqueira from the "Associação dos Amigos dos Caminhos de Fátima"
    As mentioned in my post the article was written by Rodrigo Cerqueira and it is fully completed nor just parts of it, at that time.
    To make it short my post is about the "Caminho Nascente" by Rodrigo not about the new albergue in Monsanto that I never knew till now.
    Check my post here:
    https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/caminho-nascente-fatima-tomar.38892/
    Mario
     

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