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@Albertagirl preparing for the Levante

Albertagirl

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I shall be trying to get a sim card in Valencia on a Saturday, as I arrive in Spain on Friday evening (Sept. 10), and must begin my camino on Sunday. I am hoping that something will be open, as I cannot afford the time to stay over Sunday and into Monday to shop. I am not clear on what types of services may be available on Saturday, but if not, I guess I shall just walk on and get something in the next major city. There must be a phone store of some sort in Xativa, if not sooner. I am adjusting my schedule to make room for volunteering as a hospitalera at the end of my time in Spain, so I have to be strict with my time, to fit in as much as I can.
 
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I shall be trying to get a sim card in Valencia on a Saturday, as I arrive in Spain on Friday evening (Sept. 10), and must begin my camino on Sunday. I am hoping that something will be open, as I cannot afford the time to stay over Sunday and into Monday to shop. I am not clear on what types of services may be available on Saturday, but if not, I guess I shall just walk on and get something in the next major city. There must be a phone store of some sort in Xativa, if not sooner. I am adjusting my schedule to make room for volunteering as a hospitalera at the end of my time in Spain, so I have to be strict with my time, to fit in as much as I can.
Albertagirl, it is easy to find the Vodafone (or whatever company you decide on). nearest your pensión in Valencia. All will be open on Saturday (all closed on Sundays) most don’t close and are open continuously 10-8 pm.

Just put your address in Valencia into google maps and look for vodafone nearby. Happy to try to help if that isn’t clear.
 

Albertagirl

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Albertagirl, it is easy to find the Vodafone (or whatever company you decide on). nearest your pensión in Valencia. All will be open on Saturday (all closed on Sundays) most don’t close and are open continuously 10-8 pm.

Just put your address in Valencia into google maps and look for vodafone nearby. Happy to try to help if that isn’t clear.
Thank you. I shall begin, I think, by asking whoever is on the desk at Pension Alicante where the nearest shop for cell phone service is. But maybe it might work to look that up now, as I am becoming quite familiar with the map of Valencia.
 

Albertagirl

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Albertagirl, it is easy to find the Vodafone (or whatever company you decide on). nearest your pensión in Valencia. All will be open on Saturday (all closed on Sundays) most don’t close and are open continuously 10-8 pm.

Just put your address in Valencia into google maps and look for vodafone nearby. Happy to try to help if that isn’t clear.
I have found two Orange shops within a block or two of Pension Alicante, where I am booked for two nights. But this was more challenging than I expected, as the Pension disappears from the map when I enter Orange. I finally was able to determine where the shops are with reference to the Xativa metro stop, which remains on the map with either the Pension or the shops (but not both). Getting around in Spain is a real educational experience. I hope that the Metro stop at the airport is manned at night, as I have some Spanish cash to buy a ticket, but not a lot of coins to push through a slot. I expect that the Metro to Xativa will be faster than a taxi, and certainly cheaper. One month from tomorrow and I shall be on my way! Do you think it would be helpful if I posted about available accommodation along the Way? I am so much in debt to you and others for assistance on my caminos, that I should not be too lazy to reciprocate.
 

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I have found two Orange shops within a block or two of Pension Alicante, where I am booked for two nights. But this was more challenging than I expected, as the Pension disappears from the map when I enter Orange. I finally was able to determine where the shops are with reference to the Xativa metro stop, which remains on the map with either the Pension or the shops (but not both). Getting around in Spain is a real educational experience. I hope that the Metro stop at the airport is manned at night, as I have some Spanish cash to buy a ticket, but not a lot of coins to push through a slot. I expect that the Metro to Xativa will be faster than a taxi, and certainly cheaper. One month from tomorrow and I shall be on my way! Do you think it would be helpful if I posted about available accommodation along the Way? I am so much in debt to you and others for assistance on my caminos, that I should not be too lazy to reciprocate.
Accommodation info would be very helpful. Have you seen the amigos update?

 
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peregrina2000

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I hope that the Metro stop at the airport is manned at night, as I have some Spanish cash to buy a ticket, but not a lot of coins to push through a slot.

The Valencia metro website says their CAC (Centro de Atención al Cliente — customer service booth) is open from 7:15 am till 9:45 pm. (There is also some weird information posted there about limited opening hours in August, but since you are going in September, I’ve ignored that)


It also looks like the last train for Xátiva metro stop (line 5) leaves the airport at 10:15 pm.

 

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Do you think it would be helpful if I posted about available accommodation along the Way?
Even for those who are not planning an immediate walk on the Levante, it would help us keep our hopes and plans alive for other routes, and give us understanding of what the situation is like on the ground in Spain. So, I do hope you'll post regularly!
 

Albertagirl

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Accommodation info would be very helpful. Have you seen the amigos update?
I have posted this information on the Levante Detailed Stage Planning thread and so far a couple of persons have indicated seeing it there. I have used it to adjust my previous planning. At the moment, the only place on the Levante where I cannot find any accommodation is Siete Iglesias de Trabancos. The albergue is closed and Hostal los Toreros appears on maps.me with a knife and fork rather than a hotel symbol. There seems to be nothing else in the neighbourhood. But if they have a hostal building perhaps they would have mercy on a pigrim arriving late in the day with no other options.
Edit: I have just tried looking at Hotel los Toreros on Google Maps, where it appears to still be in full function as both a restaurant and a hotel, and apparently provides a free breakfast. There is a recent photo and an offer to provide "una noche tranquila." At the moment, I don't much care what it costs.
 
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Albertagirl

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The Valencia metro website says their CAC (Centro de Atención al Cliente — customer service booth) is open from 7:15 am till 9:45 pm. (There is also some weird information posted there about limited opening hours in August, but since you are going in September, I’ve ignored that)


It also looks like the last train for Xátiva metro stop (line 5) leaves the airport at 10:15 pm.

My flight to Valencia is scheduled to arrive from Heathrow at 18:45, so 6:45 pm. If on time, and I can get through the entry procedures in a reasonable time, I should have no problem buying my ticket and getting the last train into Valencia. I am beginning to believe that this will happen.
 

Albertagirl

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I have started to use the Google Maps app to get more information about accommodation on the Levante, since I realize that it may have some listings not on maps.me, which I use for route finding because of online maps. I am finding that comparison of the information in the apps is challenging, in part because I get prices in dollars on Google Maps and in euros, which is my preference, on maps.me. Is there any way to reset Google Maps to give accommodation prices in euros, or will it switch to euros after I arrive in Spain?
 
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peregrina2000

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Is there any way to reset Google Maps to give accommodation prices in euros,

Ok, here is what I learned.

Go go maps.google.com

Click on the three small parallel lines in the top left

Click on search settings

Scroll down to region settings.

You will see that your maps are probably set for “current region.” That means that prices will come up in euros when you get to Spain. If you want prices to come up in euros now, while you are in Canada, you can click on Spain, but then your prices will come up in euros whenever you use google maps, which may not be what you want.
 

Albertagirl

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Well, I have wasted your time and am not much further, as I don't have, or want, Google Maps on my computer, and I don't seem to be able to manage these functions on my phone. I never got to anything about setting regional preferences, but I just went around in circles with dietary preferences which I prefer not to set, unable to leave until I turned my phone off. I suspect that we are both right and I shall just have to wait until I get to Spain to see if money amounts show up in euros on Google maps. I am so used to thinking in euros in Spain, since that is how money has always appeared on my phone when I travel, that I just took it for granted until I noticed that prices for accommodation were showing up in $Can on Google maps. I didn't know what to do with it or how to compare prices I had recorded for previously located accommodation. Not a big deal.
I am, in any case, finished my initial efforts at planning my camino: 55 days walking to Santiago: two nights before in Valencia and after in Santiago, two nights in Toledo, Avila and Ourense and an extra half day in Zamora (early arrival). Only two days 30 k or more and I have cut 2 k. off the longer one by choosing a place to stay 2 k. forward on the edge of the town before the longest day. The rest of my 80 days in Spain will be devoted to travelling to where I am serving as hospitalera, doing my two weeks, then to Madrid to return home. I have never tried to plan like this before, but it seems to be coming together, and I can use my planned days off to respond to any challenges, if I must. I have noticed that the 1200 k walk, divided by 55 days walking, amounts to an average of about 22 k a day, which seems quite reasonable. I hope that my new knee holds up. Thanks for all your help.
 
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Doughnut NZ

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Well, I have wasted your time and am not much further, as I don't have, or want, Google Maps on my computer, and I don't seem to be able to manage these functions on my phone.
On your computer Google Maps is accessed through the Chrome web browser. Just type maps in the Chrome search bar.

BTW, I have just added a comment about buying SIM cards in Spain (and Portugal) on the sim card thread that you might like to check out.
 
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I don't have, or want, Google Maps on my computer, and I don't seem to be able to manage these functions on my phone.

If you are frustrated, let it go. But if you want to try again, as @Doughnut said, you do not need to add any maps app to your computer. Step one takes you to maps through the internet. Probably just like you access the forum from your computer.

After you type in ”maps.google.com”, it will bring up google maps. Then follow the other steps and you will have google map prices in euros when you use google maps on your computer.

But it may just be easier to do the conversion mentally and realize you are off by a few dollars.

Congrats on having the whole trip ready to go!
 

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I shall be trying to get a sim card in Valencia on a Saturday, as I arrive in Spain on Friday evening (Sept. 10), and must begin my camino on Sunday. I am hoping that something will be open, as I cannot afford the time to stay over Sunday and into Monday to shop. I am not clear on what types of services may be available on Saturday, but if not, I guess I shall just walk on and get something in the next major city. There must be a phone store of some sort in Xativa, if not sooner. I am adjusting my schedule to make room for volunteering as a hospitalera at the end of my time in Spain, so I have to be strict with my time, to fit in as much as I can.
Have you considered buying one on amazon? I did this before going to the states. Some companies didnt offer a 2-4 week card.
 

Albertagirl

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Have you considered buying one on amazon? I did this before going to the states. Some companies didnt offer a 2-4 week card.
I shall need cell phone service for three months in Spain and am hoping to get in on one sim card, completely prepaid, so I can keep the same phone number.
 
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Best of luck to you, Albertagirl. So happy your knee replacement is working out well enough that you are going on this trip. We will think good thoughts and keep you in our pilgrimage prayers.
No trip for me until next year. Will look forward to reading your always interesting posts and traveling vicariously in 2021.
Buen Camino.
 
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Ok, here is what I learned.

Go go maps.google.com

Click on the three small parallel lines in the top left

Click on search settings

Scroll down to region settings.

You will see that your maps are probably set for “current region.” That means that prices will come up in euros when you get to Spain. If you want prices to come up in euros now, while you are in Canada, you can click on Spain, but then your prices will come up in euros whenever you use google maps, which may not be what you want.
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I shall need cell phone service for three months in Spain and am hoping to get in on one sim card, completely prepaid, so I can keep the same phone number.
Pay-as- you go is usually for 4 weeks at a time, not a month. Movistar has good coverage in most of Spain. You can top up at some super markets etc.
 
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I shall be trying to get a sim card in Valencia on a Saturday, as I arrive in Spain on Friday evening (Sept. 10), and must begin my camino on Sunday. I am hoping that something will be open, as I cannot afford the time to stay over Sunday and into Monday to shop. I am not clear on what types of services may be available on Saturday, but if not, I guess I shall just walk on and get something in the next major city. There must be a phone store of some sort in Xativa, if not sooner. I am adjusting my schedule to make room for volunteering as a hospitalera at the end of my time in Spain, so I have to be strict with my time, to fit in as much as I can.
I think you could get a SIM card immediately upon arrival at the Madrid or Valencia airport. Most airports have booths in the arrival and commercial areas. Buen Camino, I’ll follow your Levante if you’ll post. I’m travelling to Lisbon early October.
 

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I think you could get a SIM card immediately upon arrival at the Madrid or Valencia airport. Most airports have booths in the arrival and commercial areas. Buen Camino, I’ll follow your Levante if you’ll post. I’m travelling to Lisbon early October.
I once bought a sim card from a Lebara stand at the Madrid airport. It was a total disaster and quit on me soon. I kept getting requests to pay more money, which I think came in Polish. I prefer not to risk this again.
 
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I'm wondering why you say this. Maybe you are confusing Google Maps with Google Earth, which is different.
Not a big deal. I am just able to manage (more or less) what is already on my computer, of necessity, and avoid further downloads.
 
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I shall be trying to get a sim card in Valencia on a Saturday, as I arrive in Spain on Friday evening (Sept. 10), and must begin my camino on Sunday. I am hoping that something will be open, as I cannot afford the time to stay over Sunday and into Monday to shop. I am not clear on what types of services may be available on Saturday, but if not, I guess I shall just walk on and get something in the next major city. There must be a phone store of some sort in Xativa, if not sooner. I am adjusting my schedule to make room for volunteering as a hospitalera at the end of my time in Spain, so I have to be strict with my time, to fit in as much as I can.
Buen Camino.
 

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I have an additional question, not related to anything discussed above, but about the Levante. I have decided to follow the old camino route into Toledo from Nambroca, which joins the new route near the bridge into Toledo. This is for two reasons: 1. It is a shorter route, the other seems to be a lengthy detour; 2. There is a variety of inexpensive accommodation along this route, and nothing but "rent the whole place" expensive casas rurales on the Burguillos route. The cheapest would cost me 80 euros for one night. My choice looks doable, but the older route goes near a major highway. I don't care, if this is still a safe route, but I would like reassurance from someone familiar with it. One impossible or dangerous section would rule if out.
 
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lt56ny

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Albertagirl, it is easy to find the Vodafone (or whatever company you decide on). nearest your pensión in Valencia. All will be open on Saturday (all closed on Sundays) most don’t close and are open continuously 10-8 pm.

Just put your address in Valencia into google maps and look for vodafone nearby. Happy to try to help if that isn’t clear.
The first thing I do when I get to Spain is to get my Spanish Sim Card. I will be arriving about 5PM in Seville this year after starting out at 1:00PM the day before. The airport is about 12 kilometers from where I am sleeping. There is an Orange and Vodafone stores near each other and about a kilometer from my hotel. So I will invest in a taxi to Orange/Vodafone, buy a bocadillo, go to my hotel, shower eat and sleep. Next day is a national holiday so I want the ability to have Google maps to check out the beauty of Sevilla.
 

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Well, I have wasted your time and am not much further, as I don't have, or want, Google Maps on my computer, and I don't seem to be able to manage these functions on my phone. I never got to anything about setting regional preferences, but I just went around in circles with dietary preferences which I prefer not to set, unable to leave until I turned my phone off. I suspect that we are both right and I shall just have to wait until I get to Spain to see if money amounts show up in euros on Google maps. I am so used to thinking in euros in Spain, since that is how money has always appeared on my phone when I travel, that I just took it for granted until I noticed that prices for accommodation were showing up in $Can on Google maps. I didn't know what to do with it or how to compare prices I had recorded for previously located accommodation. Not a big deal.
I am, in any case, finished my initial efforts at planning my camino: 55 days walking to Santiago: two nights before in Valencia and after in Santiago, two nights in Toledo, Avila and Ourense and an extra half day in Zamora (early arrival). Only two days 30 k or more and I have cut 2 k. off the longer one by choosing a place to stay 2 k. forward on the edge of the town before the longest day. The rest of my 80 days in Spain will be devoted to travelling to where I am serving as hospitalera, doing my two weeks, then to Madrid to return home. I have never tried to plan like this before, but it seems to be coming together, and I can use my planned days off to respond to any challenges, if I must. I have noticed that the 1200 k walk, divided by 55 days walking, amounts to an average of about 22 k a day, which seems quite reasonable. I hope that my new knee holds up. Thanks for all your help.
Sounds brilliant! Hope it's not too hot...
 
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I have decided to follow the old camino route into Toledo from Nambroca, which joins the new route near the bridge into Santiago. This is for two reasons: 1. It is a shorter route, the other seems to be a lengthy detour; 2. There is a variety of inexpensive accommodation along this route, and nothing but "rent the whole place" expensive casas rurales on the Burguillos route.
Do you mean near the bridge into Toledo? (you wrote “into Santiago.”).

The vieiragrino guide shows the route as going both through Nambroca and Burguillos, can you explain what the old and new routes are? Sorry to be dense.

I’m asking only because if there is one thing you do not want to miss on the Levante, it is the view over the river to Toledo from the mirador. It is the El Greco view and just jaw-dropping. Quite the balm for the weary body after a slog on a lot of asphalt.
 

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So envious Albertagirl. Wish I could get going this year. It was a pleasure meeting you in Tres Cantos in 2019
Will enjoy reading your posts from the Levante.
I too recall the time when we were all together on our walk along the Madrid Camino. Seems so very long ago now. All the best to Albertagirl!
 

Albertagirl

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I have edited my previous post. I was managing three different conversations simultaneously and not properly focusing on this question. If the old route into Toledo, which is marked in red on my earlier version on maps.me, can still be followed, it would be a major advantage for me. I am short of time and would be following a direct route, instead of a lengthy detour. Also, I could find inexpensive accommodation along the way. I can see how neither of these issues might apply to you, as you walk much longer days than I am currrently able to manage. The old route goes from Nambroka to Las Nieves to the bridge to Toledo, interacting with the Autovia de Toledo in various ways. There is much inexpensive accommodation along the way. One of the hotels in Santa Barbara would suit me, with the walk over the bridge into Toledo in the morning. I have calculated a 26 k day from Mora to Toledo. But is the part next to the Autovia currently passable?
Edit: This should be more like 26 km from Mora to Las Nieves, then on to Santa Barbara and Toledo, as my energy permits.
 
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I shall be trying to get a sim card in Valencia on a Saturday, as I arrive in Spain on Friday evening (Sept. 10), and must begin my camino on Sunday. I am hoping that something will be open, as I cannot afford the time to stay over Sunday and into Monday to shop. I am not clear on what types of services may be available on Saturday, but if not, I guess I shall just walk on and get something in the next major city. There must be a phone store of some sort in Xativa, if not sooner. I am adjusting my schedule to make room for volunteering as a hospitalera at the end of my time in Spain, so I have to be strict with my time, to fit in as much as I can.
Can you but the Sim card at the airport on arrival?
 
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I have calculated a 26 k day from Mora to Toledo.
That is not at all what I remember, and in fact according to google maps, the driving route from Mora to Toledo is 35 km.

I’m still stuck on figuring out what you mean between the old route and the new route. Can you tell us the routes of the two different alternatives? Which towns do they each go through? As I said in an earlier post, the Vieiragrino map shows the route from Mora as going through both Burguillo and Nambroca.
 

Doughnut NZ

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I have edited my previous post. I was managing three different conversations simultaneously and not properly focusing on this question. If the old route into Toledo, which is marked in red on my earlier version on maps.me, can still be followed, it would be a major advantage for me. I am short of time and would be following a direct route, instead of a lengthy detour. Also, I could find inexpensive accommodation along the way. I can see how neither of these issues might apply to you, as you walk much longer days than I am currrently able to manage. The old route goes from Nambroka to Las Nieves to the bridge to Toledo, interacting with the Autovia de Toledo in various ways. There is much inexpensive accommodation along the way. One of the hotels in Santa Barbara would suit me, with the walk over the bridge into Toledo in the morning. I have calculated a 26 k day from Mora to Toledo. But is the part next to the Autovia currently passable?
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Well, I have wasted your time and am not much further, as I don't have, or want, Google Maps on my computer, and I don't seem to be able to manage these functions on my phone. I never got to anything about setting regional preferences, but I just went around in circles with dietary preferences which I prefer not to set, unable to leave until I turned my phone off. I suspect that we are both right and I shall just have to wait until I get to Spain to see if money amounts show up in euros on Google maps. I am so used to thinking in euros in Spain, since that is how money has always appeared on my phone when I travel, that I just took it for granted until I noticed that prices for accommodation were showing up in $Can on Google maps. I didn't know what to do with it or how to compare prices I had recorded for previously located accommodation. Not a big deal.
I am, in any case, finished my initial efforts at planning my camino: 55 days walking to Santiago: two nights before in Valencia and after in Santiago, two nights in Toledo, Avila and Ourense and an extra half day in Zamora (early arrival). Only two days 30 k or more and I have cut 2 k. off the longer one by choosing a place to stay 2 k. forward on the edge of the town before the longest day. The rest of my 80 days in Spain will be devoted to travelling to where I am serving as hospitalera, doing my two weeks, then to Madrid to return home. I have never tried to plan like this before, but it seems to be coming together, and I can use my planned days off to respond to any challenges, if I must. I have noticed that the 1200 k walk, divided by 55 days walking, amounts to an average of about 22 k a day, which seems quite reasonable. I hope that my new knee holds up. Thanks for all your help.
That sounds like quite a challenge. I look forward to reading reports en route. Buen Camino.
 

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That is not at all what I remember, and in fact according to google maps, the driving route from Mora to Toledo is 35 km.

I’m still stuck on figuring out what you mean between the old route and the new route. Can you tell us the routes of the two different alternatives? Which towns do they each go through? As I said in an earlier post, the Vieiragrino map shows the route from Mora as going through both Burguillo and Nambroca.
I am planning on leaving Valencia in early October and hopefully going as far as Toledo. My calculations show that Mora to Toledo is about 39 kilometres. Leaving Mora, this route goes through Mascaraque, Almonacid, Nambroca, Burguillos, and Cobisa, before arriving at Toledo. This seems to be the route that is outlined by both the Amigos Association and the Centro de Descargas (https://centrodedescargas.cnig.es/CentroDescargas/loadCamSan.do#).

I would be very interested to know if there is an alternative route.

Based on the above, my plan would likely be to stay in Las Nieves, which is a few kilometres off the Camino past Nambroca, and then walk into Toledo the next day through Burguillos and Cobisa.
 

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I would be very interested to know if there is an alternative route.
From Nambroca to Las Nieves is 4.5 kms. That would give you Mora to Las Nieves, about 26 km, and Las Nieves to Toledo (backtracking as you propose) about another 25. Not a bad way to cut the stage in half even though it adds about 9 km total. I think everyone agrees that it is now impossible to walk directly to Toledo from Las Nieves, and that the old route was changed when the autovia was built.

There is another way, which I will post as soon as one of the forum map-making-genius members has it ready.
 
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alexwalker

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@Albertagirl :Buen Camino, peregrina! Wish I were there.

 

Canche

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2016
I shall be trying to get a sim card in Valencia on a Saturday, as I arrive in Spain on Friday evening (Sept. 10), and must begin my camino on Sunday. I am hoping that something will be open, as I cannot afford the time to stay over Sunday and into Monday to shop. I am not clear on what types of services may be available on Saturday, but if not, I guess I shall just walk on and get something in the next major city. There must be a phone store of some sort in Xativa, if not sooner. I am adjusting my schedule to make room for volunteering as a hospitalera at the end of my time in Spain, so I have to be strict with my time, to fit in as much as I can.
Good luck. I'm sure you will be able to get a SIM card in Valencia
 

Albertagirl

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Good luck. I'm sure you will be able to get a SIM card in Valencia
Thank you for your encouragement. Those who are familiar with the hours of phone businesses in Spain have assured me that the shops are open all day on Saturday. And I have found a couple of shops close to where I shall be staying. So I think that there will be no problem.
 

peregrina2000

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For those who may not have followed our back and forth in real time, I have posted the proposed alternatives for Mora to Toledo in a separate thread. This stage is a sticking point for many who walk the Levante, sort of like the stage through the Arco de Cáparra on the Vdlp. Thanks to @Doughnut NZ, the alternative consists of two well mapped stages in the low 20s each. What’s more, there is affordable accommodation in the middle.


 
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