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An Ultralight Two-Person Tent On Sale. Available in the EU, too.

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For those considering a tent purchase, this tent weighs under 2 pounds/907 grams, is roomy and durable. It can be used with trekking poles, or with folding poles available for purchase on the same sight.

It is on sale and is a tremendous bargain, for those in the market.

 

OzAnnie

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Hi Dave
It is a lightweight one. Personally I wouldn’t carry it on my camino as I always carry too much weight. So light or not - it’s still extra. Plus the price is pretty exxy.... probably because of good quality etc.

I would however contemplate getting one for drives in Oz / if I want to have my wee dog with me.. I wouldn’t be stressing about finding accommodation that would allow a dog.

Thanks for sharing
Annie
 
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Must admit that I like my privacy so would prefer an opaque one.
That is understandable, David. :)

I don't know if this makes any difference, but it is fairly opaque when set up. The mesh doors can be easily and quickly covered by rolling down the vestibule covering, which also creates sheltered 'porch' outside the tent for a backpack, and to allow covered cooking in the rain. As much of an introvert and desiring of privacy as I am and do, I do not feel 'exposed' with this or other similar ultralight tents

Most ultralight tents will use a lighter weight fabric in construction, which is extremely strong. That lighter denier fabric will allow more light to pass thru than a heavier fabric needed to gain absolute opacity.

In dim light, no one can see into a these tents - -unless the interior is lit by a flashlight or something. That will allow shadow to print through to the outside, which will also somewhat occur in a heavier fabric tent :)
 

Jeff Crawley

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Must admit that I like my privacy so would prefer an opaque one.
I have one of these

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in the back of my camper as a "spare room" - it has a UPF of 50+, sleeps 3 and once zipped up you can barely see your hand in front of your face. The downside is it folds to a 75cm/30inch disc and weighs in at 4kg/8lbs.

Of course if you could get somebody else to carry it . . .
 
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I have one of these

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in the back of my camper as a "spare room" - it has a UPF of 50+, sleeps 3 and once zipped up you can barely see your hand in front of your face. The downside is it folds to a 75cm/30inch disc and weighs in at 4kg/8lbs.

Of course if you could get somebody else to carry it . . .
Back in the 1970's, my best friend, Dan, and I were doing a climb up the Peshastin Pinnacles. A really warm, summer day. We hit the summit about 2:00 in the afternoon, and were just sitting and looking at the scenery.

I said something like, "Man, I would sure love a nice juicy slice of watermelon". Dan looked over and snidely asked if I was dumb enough to have one in my pack.

"Nope, but I was smart enough to put one in yours"

I had tucked a container of cubed watermelon into his pack at the parking area. When I opened up his pack and pulled it out and tossed it to him, I thought Dan was going to fast-pitch it back at my head.

He got over it quickly after his first mouthful of melon. After that, whenever we went climbing together, I made sure to check my pack, carefully. :)
 

Barbara

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Looks like a great tent if you use walking poles. I don't, on my bike. For those who do I think it's one of the best I've seen.
 

NorthernLight

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How does the Two compare to the One?

I note two doors vs one, some extra space, and the One is currently out of stock.
 
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For those considering a tent purchase, this tent weighs under 2 pounds/907 grams, is roomy and durable. It can be used with trekking poles, or with folding poles available for purchase on the same sight.

It is on sale and is a tremendous bargain, for those in the market.

It does look like a really nice tent. I have not owned a tent before but with the Coronavirus I'm thinking of walking the Pembrokeshire Coastal Path later in the year and camping looks my best option. Would I be better with a one person tent? The Two is very light and would give me a lot more room. Have you any idea where to buy one in the UK.

The truth is I have a brother a year younger than me...when we were kids he had a tent as a birthday present and I was very envious. In those days a girl didn't get exciting things like tents, not in my family! The fantasy of having my own tent is very strong 🤩
 
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Go for it. Walking the camino was only a fantasy for most of us at one time.
Good point. Took me 10 years to make the dream of walking the Camino a reality and it turned out to be a whole lot simpler than I'd ever imagined.
50 years of desiring a tent? Time to itch that scratch ☺
 
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It does look like a really nice tent. I have not owned a tent before but with the Coronavirus I'm thinking of walking the Pembrokeshire Coastal Path later in the year and camping looks my best option. Would I be better with a one person tent? The Two is very light and would give me a lot more room. Have you any idea where to buy one in the UK.

The truth is I have a brother a year younger than me...when we were kids he had a tent as a birthday present and I was very envious. In those days a girl didn't get exciting things like tents, not in my family! The fantasy of having my own tent is very strong 🤩
I use a two person tent when backpacking. it isn't just you that needs sheltering, your gear (backpack) also needs a place to shelter from the elements. Like many tents, this one has an extended vestibule that makes a covered porch. This allows gear to remain outside of the tent and still be protected.

I have another thread which lists several stores in the EU that carry Gossamer Gear products, and other manufacturer's gear as well, HERE.

I do not know if there are gear stores directly in the UK which carry Gossamer Gear products, but there a several in the EU which do, and which ship products from online purchases. . . some with free shipping.

This is one EU store that carries the tent, as well as other good stuff. :)
 
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Not looking like a viable tent for me for several reasons. Price in Europe is a lot more and mostly it is out of stock. Also it needs trekking poles longer than mine! I know you can buy poles but that defeats some of the lightness. I own Leki micro vario carbon poles which I really like and they are not cheap. They only extend to 115cm max.

I guess I will have to do more research. Thank you @davebugg for the link to the other thread, very helpful.
 
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Not looking like a viable tent for me for several reasons. Price in Europe is a lot more and mostly it is out of stock. Also it needs trekking poles longer than mine! I know you can buy poles but that defeats some of the lightness. I own Leki micro vario carbon poles which I really like and they are not cheap. They only extend to 115cm max.

I guess I will have to do more research. Thank you @davebugg for the link to the other thread, very helpful.
None of this may help, because I cannot answer as to the another person's budget and price concerns, other than to say that as a technically excellent piece of ultralight gear, it is far less expensive than I would expect. Certainly much less than my zPacks or TarpTent tents of similar specifications and materials.

I have also set up this tent with no problems using my Leki Corklite Trekking Poles, which share a similar extended length measurement (I thought that model could extend to 130 cm???) to those nice, Micro Vario Carbon poles you have.

Anyway, I thought I would throw those observations out there, if that helps at all. I also may be wrong about the full extendability to your poles, so it may be a moot point anyway. :)

I do know that a set of poles for the Gossamer Gear tent adds around 5 more ounces. And most manufactured UL tent poles for tents will be similar in weight. When backpacking, I always carry at least one tent pole as a backup in case I have a trekking pole breakdown :)

Please, do not think I am trying to push this, or any other type of gear, on anyone. I am just hoping anything I post might add information to help with purchasing choices and options.

If you are comfortable saying what price point you are wanting to stick to, I could try and make some suggestions.
 
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Deputy Dan

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LOL - On sale, but not currently available. Reminds me of an old joke, the punchline being "If I didn't have any, I too could sell them at half price."

I did put my name on the list to be notified when they do become available. This might just be my next tent. My current tent has WAY too many miles/years on it and has been relegated to being the guest room - set up in the living room - when my grandsons visit. Amazing how much abuse it can still stand . . .
 

Moorwalker

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Hi Dave
It is a lightweight one. Personally I wouldn’t carry it on my camino as I always carry too much weight. So light or not - it’s still extra. Plus the price is pretty exxy.... probably because of good quality etc.

I would however contemplate getting one for drives in Oz / if I want to have my wee dog with me.. I wouldn’t be stressing about finding accommodation that would allow a dog.

Thanks for sharing
Annie
I probably wouldn't go for that one if I was car camping and weight wasn't critical, the ultralight gear is generally not as robust because they use the lightest possible materials. And dog claws really don't go well with thin silnylon. I actually got a tent second hand because the person had bought it then found his dog's claws went straight through the groundsheet. So I bought it for about 1/3 of the original price, mended the groundsheet and it then did me for the next 10 years.
 

Moorwalker

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It does look like a really nice tent. I have not owned a tent before but with the Coronavirus I'm thinking of walking the Pembrokeshire Coastal Path later in the year and camping looks my best option. Would I be better with a one person tent? The Two is very light and would give me a lot more room. Have you any idea where to buy one in the UK.
I always go for a tent a little larger than i strictly need becuase it makes life so much easier in wet weather. For backpacking I have a Laser Competition which is described as 1 person, or 2 if you are very friendly and sleep head to tail. What that actually means is that for 1 person it's really comfortable, has enough headroom to sit up in, and i can bring all my kit inside. It weighs under a kilo all up.
 
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@davebugg I appreciate all your posts and know you never push products, just put out information. I certainly enjoy your inputs and have learned a lot.

I looked into trekking pole length and I guess mine are ladies poles. They have a range of 100 - 115 cm ...I looked at my poles! I bought them in 2018, kit does change frequently and it looks like the current ladies version goes up to 120 cm. I'm only 5'4" so mine suit me just fine (for trekking ;))

Adding tent poles is not that heavy, so this tent does look really good value. I looked at buying it from the USA and paying the various taxes/charges. If it keeps this price once they have it in stock it could be cheaper for me than buying it in Europe, depending on delivery charges. The best European price was the equivalent of $450...but they are out of stock too.

Price I'm prepared to pay is not a simple question. I honestly don't know how much use I will make of a tent so I need to consider that alongside what I would get for the money spent. I like this tent; it is light and it looks easy to use, both very important for me. This price could work. But I can probably borrow a small light tent so I am thinking that borrowing is my best starting point and will give me more experience on which to base buying decisions. Especially as I can't obtain one of these right now!

That being said I would be interested to hear your opinion of the Big Agnes Scout 1 Platinum? Being a new tent I can not yet find any reviews but a perusal by your expert eye would be interesting 😊 I appreciate it's a lot smaller but it is wonderfully light and my poles would fit!
 
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@davebugg I appreciate all your posts and know you never push products, just put out information. I certainly enjoy your inputs and have learned a lot.

I looked into trekking pole length and I guess mine are ladies poles. They have a range of 100 - 115 cm ...I looked at my poles! I bought them in 2018, kit does change frequently and it looks like the current ladies version goes up to 120 cm. I'm only 5'4" so mine suit me just fine (for trekking ;))

Adding tent poles is not that heavy, so this tent does look really good value. I looked at buying it from the USA and paying the various taxes/charges. If it keeps this price once they have it in stock it could be cheaper for me than buying it in Europe, depending on delivery charges. The best European price was the equivalent of $450...but they are out of stock too.

Price I'm prepared to pay is not a simple question. I honestly don't know how much use I will make of a tent so I need to consider that alongside what I would get for the money spent. I like this tent; it is light and it looks easy to use, both very important for me. This price could work. But I can probably borrow a small light tent so I am thinking that borrowing is my best starting point and will give me more experience on which to base buying decisions. Especially as I can't obtain one of these right now!

That being said I would be interested to hear your opinion of the Big Agnes Scout 1 Platinum? Being a new tent I can not yet find any reviews but a perusal by your expert eye would be interesting 😊 I appreciate it's a lot smaller but it is wonderfully light and my poles would fit!
I keep forgetting that the VAT can really increase the bottom line cost of anything from the US, in a addition to whatever import duties or fees. . . even if there are EU dealers that sell the same item. :eek:

If you are finding such items out of stock, contact the store via email and see if they'll give a 'rain check'. With the shutdown of businesses due to COVID-19, a lot of backpacking gear makers have either stopped or decreased their production of goods. I keep hearing about the frustration and concern that these smaller gear makers have at being able to meet customer's demand, but decreasing inventories are a temporary reality for them.

Gossamer Gear, Enlightened Equipment, ULA, MLD, etc. are all running on minimal staff at this time. I imagine the same has happened across all industries worldwide.

The Big Agnes tents can be good with their construction. . the Scout series uses the same type of silnylon that Gossamer Gear and TarpTents, etc. use in their tents.

With a footprint under the tent made of polycro, or Tyvek or something else lightweight, that provides a bit of protection from stuff on the ground, it will last quite a while. I still have a 5 year old silnylon TarpTent that has a couple of thousand miles of backpacking history :)

The only concern I personally have with BA tents that are part of their ultralight lineup, is that BA shaves off weight by decreasing usable space. The tents can be narrower and have less headroom than tents from some other tent makers, or they may have a more pronounced taper from head to foot.

In practical terms, some folks are fine with the size issues and accept the sizing trade off for the weight savings. . . they just need a tent to sleep in, not 'live' in. Just a place to hunker into at night to ward off insects or foul weather during sleep. That normally works for me, too. In fact, if weather and mosquitoes are cooperative, I might not even bother setting up a tent or tarp at that night.

Where size does matter more for some folks, is if you are facing long periods of rain, and need to stay in the tent. BA, and other models and makes of tents, don't give much space to sit up and move around in with one-person models. This is why some folks, regardless of tent maker, will decide to go with larger two-person tents.

This means that it is important to deal with a shop that has an easy customer return and/or exchange policy. You will want to be able to set one up, and try it out for your own determination of 'elbow room'. If you find the sizing is not an issue, then the Scout will work just fine in terms of durability and quality of manufacture.

Repairs are going to be needed with any tent, eventually. With silnylon tents, patches are easy to do if needed. I always carry a small length of something like Tenacious Tape which makes a permanent patch should a hole or tear eventually happen.

 
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alipilgrim

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Just a note regarding insufficient pole length. I have the same problems with my Leki poles and my TarpTent Rainbow - the poles were too short to make it a true free-standing tent. Luckily TarpTent sells “pole extensions”, basically short bits of hollow metal tubing that go on the ends of your hiking poles. I’d guess that other tent manufacturers sell the same....
 
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Wow thank you everyone this has been a really informative thread, I've learnt a lot.
 

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@davebugg How's the ventilation / condensation?
 
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@davebugg How's the ventilation / condensation?
When the weather allows for complete airflow, there is no condensation to note. The crossflow of air is great. If the weather requires the 'front porch' vestibule to be rolled down, there is still good ventilation due to the placement of mesh venting areas. . , but depending on the temperature and humidity overnight, there will be varying amounts of condensation in the morning.

This is a inherent issue with single walled, ultralight tents, but it also can be an issue with 'double walled' tents that use a rainfly. What I look for is not whether condensation happens, but how the tent handles the condensation that occurs.

This tent does an excellent job. Any significant amount of condensation will be shunted to the outside of the tent, then drips off of the overhanging edge of the roof and onto the ground. Never an issue of collected water on the floor of the tent.

I keep an absorbent cloth inside the tent. If condensation has occurred, I spend about 20 seconds and use the cloth to quickly wipe down the inside of the roof. If I am staying in camp and do need to pack up the tent to continue the hike, I do not wipe at any condensation; within a short time the condensate dries off by itself.
 
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NorthernLight

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The sale is over and it’s out of stock. If they would have a similar sale on The One, I’d be tempted. It too is out of stock.
 
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The sale is over and it’s out of stock. If they would have a similar sale on The One, I’d be tempted. It too is out of stock.
If they are out of stock, contact them and ask for a rain check, and see what they say. I noticed that the current stock did not last long after the sale was announced. I think part of the issue is that COVID-19 shut down much of their production.
 

peregrin peregrina

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For those considering a tent purchase, this tent weighs under 2 pounds/907 grams, is roomy and durable. It can be used with trekking poles, or with folding poles available for purchase on the same sight.

It is on sale and is a tremendous bargain, for those in the market.

i know i am too late jumping on this thread re the sale, but have been using gossamer gear "the one" and just want to put out a 2 thumbs up for it. it is so super lightweight and easy to set up. roomy enough for me but i am 5'3". Coupled with a lightweight thermarest inflatable pad, the tent and pad add under 2 lbs to my 4 lb base weight. i've debated bringing it on the CF for my first camino in sept/oct if we can travel by then but not sure that would be practical. i also recommend the gorilla 40 pack or even the murmer, both also from gossamer gear. their products are so intelligently designed they are a joy to use. for me it is worth spending the $$ for the quality as I agree with others that it really does pay off over time.
 
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