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Nicoleneventer

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Camino(s) past & future
Planning to walk the Camino next year
We are planning to walk the Camino Portugues either coastal or inland in December 2017, is there any South Africans on the forum that can help with a few tips like flights, etc.
 
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Portugués, Francés, Le Puy, Rota Vicentina, Soulac, Norte, Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo
We are planning to walk the Camino Portugues either coastal or inland in December 2017, is there any South Africans on the forum that can help with a few tips like flights, etc.
Hi Nicole, welcome to the forum!
Good luck with the Coastal route in December – that’s mid-winter, usually very cold and wet.

Air France is advertising cheap return flights to Lisbon at around R8,200:
http://www.airfrance.co.za/cgi-bin/AF/ZA/en/common/home/flights/ticket-plane.do

Have fun planning!
Jill
 

Eswee

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Coastal (2017)
Hi Nicole. Welcome to the Forum.
I am from Kuilsriver (Cape Town) and are doing the Camino Portuguese in October. The cheapest flights are with TAAG (Angola Airlines). From Cape Town to Porto return you can get a ticket now for December for R4 100. This will also be my first Camino. Please ask if I can be of any further help.
 

KobusTheron

Msafiri
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP - Pamplona (2014)
Pamplona - Burgos (2016)
Porto - Sdc - Muxia/Fis (2017)
Catalan (Apr 2018)
We are planning to walk the Camino Portugues either coastal or inland in December 2017, is there any South Africans on the forum that can help with a few tips like flights, etc.
Hi,
We have returned from there two weeks ago. On my cellhpone now, will send more info when we get better connection tomorrow.
In the mean time look at Angola Air (TAAG). We flew with them from Cape Town to Porto. VERY good price. We will fly with them again
 

formysons

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Roncesvalles - Santiago 2009; Norte & Primitivo Aug/Sept 2016 ??
Hi,
We have returned from there two weeks ago. On my cellhpone now, will send more info when we get better connection tomorrow.
In the mean time look at Angola Air (TAAG). We flew with them from Cape Town to Porto. VERY good price. We will fly with them again
Hi, is the R4 100 for a return? That is so cheap, wonder whether it is only for December?
 

Eswee

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Coastal (2017)
Hi, is the R4 100 for a return? That is so cheap, wonder whether it is only for December?
Hi Nicolene. It is for return tickets any time a year. I think the price depends on the day you are flying (weekdays will be cheaper than weekends) and the availability of seats. You can also try different travel agencies. I bought my ticket for a TAAG flight through an agency for less than TAAG's price.
 

KobusTheron

Msafiri
Camino(s) past & future
SJPdP - Pamplona (2014)
Pamplona - Burgos (2016)
Porto - Sdc - Muxia/Fis (2017)
Catalan (Apr 2018)
Hi Nicolene,
About the flights - I agree with Eswee about the tickets. We used Travelstart to book the tickets without any problem.
We took the metro from Porto airport to Vilar Pinhero and started the walk from there and walked the inland route.
The stages in John Brierley's book was to long for us and we cut the days down to +_ 15 km.
The first suggestion is to stay over at Casa da Fernanda at Lugar do Corgo half way between Barcelos and Ponte de Lima. You can (and I suggest you do) reserve a bed by phoning them.
Another suggestion is to have a look at the Variante Espiritual (see attached pdf's) , which is a detour from Pontevedra to the coast and then back by boat to join the route at Padron again. Very beautiful. Was a bit cold on the boat and in winter maybe very cold - that is if it runs during the winter months, you will have to check.
 

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mcopeland

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances - April-June, 2016
Portuguese Lisbon-Santiago - October, 2017
Hi Nicole. Welcome to the Forum.
I am from Kuilsriver (Cape Town) and are doing the Camino Portuguese in October. The cheapest flights are with TAAG (Angola Airlines). From Cape Town to Porto return you can get a ticket now for December for R4 100. This will also be my first Camino. Please ask if I can be of any further help.
Hi, Eswee. Not from South Africa, but also doing the Portuguese in October. We haven't found anyone else doing it so late? When do you start and from where?
 

Nicoleneventer

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Planning to walk the Camino next year
Hi,
We have returned from there two weeks ago. On my cellhpone now, will send more info when we get better connection tomorrow.
In the mean time look at Angola Air (TAAG). We flew with them from Cape Town to Porto. VERY good price. We will fly with them again
Hi Kobus
Thank you. Can you also assist me with which VISAS etc to apply for and any other tips are welcome? :)
We have decided to postpone our trip to next year rather, due to leave etc.
 

Eswee

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Coastal (2017)
Hi, Eswee. Not from South Africa, but also doing the Portuguese in October. We haven't found anyone else doing it so late? When do you start and from where?
Hi.

I will start my first Camino on 7 October 2017 from Porto. My route is as follows:

Day 1 (Senda Litoral) : Porto to Angeiras (Orbitur Campsite) : 25km
Day 2 (Senda Litoral) : Angeiras to Provoa de Varim (Albergue San Jose de Ribamar) : 16km
Day 3 (Coastal) : Provoa de Varim to Marinhas (Albergue de Marinhas) : 28km
Day 4 (Coastal) : Marinhas to Viana do Castelo (Albergue Sao Joao dos Caminhos) : 20km
Day 5 (Coastal) : Viana do Castelo to Caminha (Albergue de Caminha) : 29km
Day 6 (?) : Caminha to Valencia (Albergue São Tetónio) : 30km
Day 7 (Central) : Valencia to Mos (Albergue Santa Baia de Mos) : 29km
Day 8 (Central) : Mos to Arcade (Albergue O Lar de Pepa) : 19km
Day 9 (Central) : Arcade to Barro (Albergue de la Paróquia de Portela) : 21km
Day 10 (Central) : Barro to Padron (Albergue de Padrón) : 29km
Day 11 (Central) : Padron to Santiago : 25km.

Hope to see you on the camino.
 

Jane Erasmus

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Frances ('14)
Portuguese ('17)
Ingles ('17)
Muxia/Finisterre ( 14 & '17 & '18)
Del Norte ('18)
Hi Nicolene, I take it you will be traveling on a SA passport, so will need to get a Schengen Visa. The best way to do this is to join the Confraternity of St James in South Africa. They then give you a letter which you include in your Visa application forms - this letter says that you are a Pilgrim and will be walking the Way, so you don't have to have all the accommodation details usually required for the Visa. I made sure I had all the other forms etc and got my Visa within about 4 days. I was told to get a Visa for the country I will be in for the most time. So, although I will start walking from Porto, will spend majority of time in Spain - so got a Spanish Visa. Shout if I can help any more.
 

mcopeland

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances - April-June, 2016
Portuguese Lisbon-Santiago - October, 2017
Hi.
I will start my first Camino on 7 October 2017 from Porto. My route is as follows:
Hope to see you on the camino.
Well, we start on the 14th from Lisbon, so probably not. Safe trip!
 

annali

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
"2008"
Hi everybody! Very glad I saw this thread by South Africans who walked the Portuguese. We have done the French Way a few years ago and are now planning the Portuguese for Sept. 2018. We are now 70 yrs old, still fit enough but prefer to do stages of not more than 17-18 km a day. Also, we are on a tight budget and would not mind staying in the albergues. Any names of albergues and stages, please? Any advice will be much appreciated.
 

annali

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Camino(s) past & future
"2008"
Another question in the meantime. Is there a bus running straight from Lisbon airport to Porto? We plan to fly to and from Lisbon, but will only start our Camino from Porto.
 

Eswee

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Coastal (2017)
Another question in the meantime. Is there a bus running straight from Lisbon airport to Porto? We plan to fly to and from Lisbon, but will only start our Camino from Porto.
Hi Annali. Why don't you fly to Porto? It will be the same price from South Africa to either Lisbon or Porto. I flew to Porto and started my Camino from there.
 

annali

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
"2008"
Hi Annali. Why don't you fly to Porto? It will be the same price from South Africa to either Lisbon or Porto. I flew to Porto and started my Camino from there.
Hi Eswee! We are planning to start in Porto, but at this stage , flying to Lisbon is about R700-R800pp less. I think the train is a cheaper option. Also, the landing and departing times from Lisbon suits us better, as we are meeting friends in Portugal after doing the Camino and then going down to Faro with them. From there Lisbon is easier to depart from. I read in another thread that it is easy to start at Porto Cathedral, follow the river, walk the coast to Matosinhos and from there take a bus to the central route. What route did you take? Any help will be much appreciated :)
 

Eswee

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Coastal (2017)
Hi Eswee! We are planning to start in Porto, but at this stage , flying to Lisbon is about R700-R800pp less. I think the train is a cheaper option. Also, the landing and departing times from Lisbon suits us better, as we are meeting friends in Portugal after doing the Camino and then going down to Faro with them. From there Lisbon is easier to depart from. I read in another thread that it is easy to start at Porto Cathedral, follow the river, walk the coast to Matosinhos and from there take a bus to the central route. What route did you take? Any help will be much appreciated :)
Hi Annali. I started from the Cathedral, walked down to the river, and then follow the Senda Litoral (all along the coastline) for 3 days up to Marinhas. I then followed the Coastal route (still along the coast, but through the villages and not along the coastline) up to Caminha. I then followed the route along the river to Valencia. From there I followed the Central route to Santiago. A total of 11 days walking. If you want, I can give you a breakdown of where I slept each night.
 

annali

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Camino(s) past & future
"2008"
That will be great, Eswee! We prefer to sleep in the albergues or pilgrims hostels (SWAK Rand!), saves us money. Please let me know where you slept and also your exact route with villages. Thank you!
 

Eswee

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Coastal (2017)
That will be great, Eswee! We prefer to sleep in the albergues or pilgrims hostels (SWAK Rand!), saves us money. Please let me know where you slept and also your exact route with villages. Thank you!
Hi Anneli. My route was as follow:

Day 1 (Senda Litoral) : Porto to Angeiras (Orbitur Campsite) : 25km
Day 2 (Senda Litoral) : Angeiras to Provoa de Varim (Albergue San Jose de Ribamar) : 16km
Day 3 (Senda Litoral) : Provoa de Varim to Marinhas (Albergue de Marinhas) : 28km
Day 4 (Coastal) : Marinhas to Viana do Castelo (Albergue Sao Joao dos Caminhos) : 20km
Day 5 (Coastal) : Viana do Castelo to Caminha (Albergue de Caminha) : 29km
Day 6 Planned : Caminha to Valencia (Albergue São Tetónio) : 30km
Day 6 Actual (Albergue in Valenca was closed) : Caminha to Tui (Albergue de Peregrinos de Tui) : 35km
Day 7 (Central) : Tui to Mos (Albergue Santa Baia de Mos) : 29km
Day 8 (Central) : Mos to Pontevedra (Albergue de Peregrinos Pontevedra) : 28km
Day 9 (Central) : Pontevedra to Valga (Albergue de Peregrinos Valga) : 31km
Day 10 (Central) : Valga to Teo (Albergue de Padrón) : 20km
Day 11 (Central) : Valga to Santiago : 14km.

Hope this will help.
 

Rionajmc

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPP - Burgos (2012)
Pau - Santiago (2017).
Rota Vicentina (Dec 2017)
Porto - Finisterre (2018)
Hi Anneli. My route was as follow:

Day 1 (Senda Litoral) : Porto to Angeiras (Orbitur Campsite) : 25km
Day 2 (Senda Litoral) : Angeiras to Provoa de Varim (Albergue San Jose de Ribamar) : 16km
Day 3 (Senda Litoral) : Provoa de Varim to Marinhas (Albergue de Marinhas) : 28km
Day 4 (Coastal) : Marinhas to Viana do Castelo (Albergue Sao Joao dos Caminhos) : 20km
.
Thank you Eswee, this is very helpful for me in planning my walk in January!
 

mspath

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Camino(s) past & future
Frances, autumn/winter; 2004, 2005-2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015
Thank you Eswee, this is very helpful for me in planning my walk in January!
In Viano do Castelo there are two wonderful places for food. The CasaPrimavera/Taberna Soares is where local fisherman eat. Delicious huge portions generally of fish and cheap; you can ask for a half order of anything. Busy at lunch with workers.

More upmarket but with a simple daily menu is O Laranjeira. The dining room is handsome with white linen, the friendly service pleases the local bourgeois clientele and the Portuguese food is creative and delicious. Splurge and visit both;
Bom camino!
 

annali

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
"2008"
In Viano do Castelo there are two wonderful places for food. The CasaPrimavera/Taberna Soares is where local fisherman eat. Delicious huge portions generally of fish and cheap; you can ask for a half order of anything. Busy at lunch with workers.

More upmarket but with a simple daily menu is O Laranjeira. The dining room is handsome with white linen, the friendly service pleases the local bourgeois clientele and the Portuguese food is creative and delicious. Splurge and visit both;
Bom camino!
Thank you, we will try them! We are planning to stay over in Viano do Castelo.
 

rosbir

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Camino(s) past & future
Jun/Jul (2018)
Hi Annali. I started from the Cathedral, walked down to the river, and then follow the Senda Litoral (all along the coastline) for 3 days up to Marinhas. I then followed the Coastal route (still along the coast, but through the villages and not along the coastline) up to Caminha. I then followed the route along the river to Valencia. From there I followed the Central route to Santiago. A total of 11 days walking. If you want, I can give you a breakdown of where I slept each night.
Hi Eswee,
my daughter, a teacher in Durban, will be doing the Senda Litoral in June/July. I would really like your breakdown of accommodation as I am trying to set up her itinerary as she is going alone. Thanks, rosbir
 

Eswee

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Coastal (2017)
Hi Eswee,
my daughter, a teacher in Durban, will be doing the Senda Litoral in June/July. I would really like your breakdown of accommodation as I am trying to set up her itinerary as she is going alone. Thanks, rosbir
Hi Rosbir

My itinerary is just a couple of replies higher up on this thread, with the accommodations in brackets at the end of each day. Please let me know if you need more info.
 

rosbir

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Jun/Jul (2018)
Hi Rosbir

My itinerary is just a couple of replies higher up on this thread, with the accommodations in brackets at the end of each day. Please let me know if you need more info.
Hi Eswee, found it, many thanks. I'm thinking of going with her on the walk, Rosbir
 

Earthkeeper

Have teapot; will travel
Camino(s) past & future
Salvador Sept (2017) Primitivo Sept (2017)
You must do it. It is an absolute fantastic experience.
Hello Eswee. I am thinking of walking south, SDC to Porto. In October 2018. Does that sound reasonable?
 

Eswee

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Coastal (2017)
Hello Eswee. I am thinking of walking south, SDC to Porto. In October 2018. Does that sound reasonable?
Hi Earthkeeper. I am sorry, but I will not be able to help you with this one. I only walk from Porto to SDC. I know there are other peregrinos that did walk the reverse route. Please post your question as a new thread on this forum.
 

rosbir

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Jun/Jul (2018)
We are planning to walk the Camino Portugues either coastal or inland in December 2017, is there any South Africans on the forum that can help with a few tips like flights, etc.
Hi
Hi Anneli. My route was as follow:

Day 1 (Senda Litoral) : Porto to Angeiras (Orbitur Campsite) : 25km
Day 2 (Senda Litoral) : Angeiras to Provoa de Varim (Albergue San Jose de Ribamar) : 16km
Day 3 (Senda Litoral) : Provoa de Varim to Marinhas (Albergue de Marinhas) : 28km
Day 4 (Coastal) : Marinhas to Viana do Castelo (Albergue Sao Joao dos Caminhos) : 20km
Day 5 (Coastal) : Viana do Castelo to Caminha (Albergue de Caminha) : 29km
Day 6 Planned : Caminha to Valencia (Albergue São Tetónio) : 30km
Day 6 Actual (Albergue in Valenca was closed) : Caminha to Tui (Albergue de Peregrinos de Tui) : 35km
Day 7 (Central) : Tui to Mos (Albergue Santa Baia de Mos) : 29km
Day 8 (Central) : Mos to Pontevedra (Albergue de Peregrinos Pontevedra) : 28km
Day 9 (Central) : Pontevedra to Valga (Albergue de Peregrinos Valga) : 31km
Day 10 (Central) : Valga to Teo (Albergue de Padrón) : 20km
Day 11 (Central) : Valga to Santiago : 14km.

Hope this will help.
Hi Eswee, the visa agent in Durban has warned that the Portugese Consul will require some official transport booking from Portugal to Spain - train or coach and won't accept that on the Camino one can either 'walk' or take the local ferry from Caminha to A Guarda, Spain. Did you have a problem with this when you applied for your visa?
 

Eswee

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portuguese - Coastal (2017)
Hi


Hi Eswee, the visa agent in Durban has warned that the Portugese Consul will require some official transport booking from Portugal to Spain - train or coach and won't accept that on the Camino one can either 'walk' or take the local ferry from Caminha to A Guarda, Spain. Did you have a problem with this when you applied for your visa?
Hi Rosbir

No, I did not have any such problems. I went to the Portuguese Consulate in Cape Town. I showed them the letter from the Confraternity of Saint James, South Africa (www.csjofsa.za.org) which I got from them when I applied for my credential. It is a letter confirming that you are walking he camino. The consulate only asked for prove that I have a place to sleep in Portugal. I told them that I was sleeping in the albergues. It was not accepted by them. Luckily I had a booking for an AirBnB in Porto for my last night. They accepted it.

It is strange that the agent warns you about transport booking between Portugal and Spain, because you are applying for a schengen visa that covers most of the European countries, with no border control between them.

My advise is that you contact the Confraternity of Saint James, South Africa. They will give you the best advise. Sterkte.
 

Zelda Costa

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
2018
Hi, I bought a train ticket from Porto to Vigo fo 14 Euros. Glad I did, was the first thing they asked.
 

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