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Arrived: Gossamer Gear Ranger 35

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
The Ranger 35 arrived earlier today and I have had a chance to take a bit of a close look at its set up and configuration.

The pack is a one size fits all package. There is no adjustability to the frame itself. The hipbelt is permanently attached to the pack so it has no ability to move up or down the pack.

The pack bag material is much the same as is used on most of Gossamer Gear's backpacks, which is to say it is a very tough material.

As weighed on my calibrated scale, the pack I received weighs 33.2 ounces, so just an ounce over two pounds/ 907 gm.

The main bag opens by a zipper that opens to the half way point down the bag on each side. Although it doesn't travel the entire length of the bag, for those who prefer a panel loading configuration, the entire main bag is easily visualized with the zipper open and it is very easy to reach into the bottom of the bag. This will allow easy placement of gear and clothing and allow every item to be seen and reached. Keep in mind that this is not a tall bag, this is a 35 liter backpack.

As with most backpacks, the main bag by itself is NOT a 35 liter capacity, although it is the majority of what this pack's load carrying will hold. There is also an outer zippered pocket which provides quite a bit of space for carrying things like first-aid items, knives, extra socks, etc. It will easily hold a number of items plus a rain cover.

There is a mesh front pocket which is made out of a tough and stretchy material that expands quite a bit, an which will hold a lot of stuff. There a pockets on the hipbelt and stretchy pocket on each side of the pack near the bottom-front which are sufficient for at least one liter bottles. It seems that they could be easily reached.

The frame is similar to the one used in one of the most comfortable large backpacks I have ever had: a Dana Designs Astralplane. This pack was a huge bag. It used an internal composite frame 'sheet' that was inside an internal pocket at the back of the pack, which was stiff and yet had a good basic contour to the panel. Unlike the 'hoop-style' frames on many internal framed packs, the frame sheet provides no doubt as to it's ability to not only control the floppiness of the bag. And it is highly efficient at transferring the weight to the hip belt.

The Ranger's composite frame sheet is held in a pocket with a velcro closure at the top. It can easily be removed and put back into place. On the back of the pack's exterior there is a great deal of padding for a pack of its size. There is no padding in the middle which creates an airflow tunnel. Additionally, the padding is a resilient (from what I can see) foam covered with a thick open mesh fabric which also would seem to promote a lot of airflow.

That same material and padding is on the hipbelt and shoulder pads.

The shoulder harness felt pretty comfortable without a load, but from experience it will be very adequate depending on the amount of weight carried. The same applies to the hipbelt. I do have some concern about the WIDTH of the padded surfaces being too narrow as it applies to weight distribution, but again, I would need to put increasing load weight into the pack to determine what I felt is an upper weight limit for comfort.

Sizing. As mentioned above, it is a one size fits all. For reference, my backpack sizes usually fall in the Medium or Medium/Large range. My spine length sits at around 19". Unloaded, I was able to get a good fit for the pack. With the shoulder harness lengthened so that the hipbelt had proper placement to be able to wrap around my hipbones, the shoulder harness still sat at the preferred location as it wrapped around my shoulders. So to me, it appears that for those within at least a small to large pack size range and adequate adjustment for fit should be readily doable.

The quality of the sewing seems of high quality. I could not readily see any defects in construction.

I am going to really put a lot of hard wear and tear on the zipper and the other bag fasteners and closures. I know that Gossamer Gear takes great pride in its quality, but I also have seen hardware failures with broken harness and hipbelt buckles with a couple of their packs. Now, those failures were not frequent and were quite a while ago, and Gossamer was very quick to respond to this problem. BUT, to me the buckle and fastener material looks and feels different in a direct comparison I did with my Mariposa. To me the likely explanation is that there is a new plastics formulation allowing for less material to be used and yet remain just as resilient, or even more so. I'll see, and I'll be making some inquiries to Gossamer as well.

I am impressed with the external compression straps and external attachment points for things like microspikes or an ice axe or dangly bits like sandals or wet underwear :). I hate dangly bits on my pack, but I know it is something that Camino users do to help increase the carrying capacity of smaller packs.

There is also an internal sleeve for hydration bladders and opening ports in the bag so that the drinking tube can be placed externally.

I have no immediate plans to take the pack out for a spin under load. I'm not yet up to that. If anyone has a question about the pack that I can answer, I will gladly do so. One caveat, though. Please do not ask me if this would be a good pack for you to use on Camino.... I wouldn't have the foggiest notion if your criteria for things like weight, comfort, or usability is similar to mine. All I can do is to relate what its objective characteristics are like (expected toughness of the material, function and type of frame, adjustability, etc.), and what my subjective feelings and experiences might be using the pack.
 

J Willhaus

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
24 May- 14 July (2016)CF
Hospitalera, Zamora Dec 15-31, (2017), Hospitalera Grañón Dec 15-31 (2018)
I have seen this brand and wonder about its inability to be 'fitted' to the user. They are pricey as I recall so I will be interested to see how it works for you on an outing.
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
I have seen this brand and wonder about its inability to be 'fitted' to the user. They are pricey as I recall so I will be interested to see how it works for you on an outing.
I don't know what you mean by 'fitted' :) It is only the Ranger 35 that I am referring to. The medium and large capacity backpacks are as equally able to be sized to a person as other brands. Fitting is a matter of spine length and size, and in many manufacturer's smaller capacity offerings it is either a one size fits all or a smaller range of sizes offered.

My Gossamer Mariposa is offered in a range of sizes, for example.
 

Anamya

Keeping it simple
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015)
Portugues (2017)
Lebaniego (2019)
Dave, would you by any chance be able to post some photos of the backpack? I only find the same catalogue type ones every website I go. Not sure if you can, though, depending on your agreement with Gossamer.
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
Dave, would you by any chance be able to post some photos of the backpack? I only find the same catalogue type ones every website I go. Not sure if you can, though, depending on your agreement with Gossamer.
I'll try to post some pictures tomorrow and get various angles and with the bag opened and closed. I'll also add a ruler next to the pack to help you to better gauge the size and dimensions.
 

J Willhaus

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
24 May- 14 July (2016)CF
Hospitalera, Zamora Dec 15-31, (2017), Hospitalera Grañón Dec 15-31 (2018)
I don't know what you mean by 'fitted' :) It is only the Ranger 35 that I am referring to. The medium and large capacity backpacks are as equally able to be sized to a person as other brands. Fitting is a matter of spine length and size, and in many manufacturer's smaller capacity offerings it is either a one size fits all or a smaller range of sizes offered.

My Gossamer Mariposa is offered in a range of sizes, for example.
Ok, I found it online and watched their video. It is about the same size as my current pack. I have difficulty with fitting packs because I wear a small (spine length). My current pack is a Columbia brand and it is no longer made, but it fits me great. I bought an Osprey about 2 years ago in my 'size' and have never really liked it so it sits in the gear closet unused. I did finally part with my beloved external frame pack a few years ago when I found the internal frame Columbia. It was a Jansport with an adjustable frame which was made for boy scouts. Was great for me in the backcountry, but not practical for the Camino. We really only have one local store any more in Boise which will help you load and fit a pack. The others have been put out of business by online stores and REI. Although I enjoy REI, I prefer to get things at the local outfitters when possible.
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
Ok, I found it online and watched their video. It is about the same size as my current pack. I have difficulty with fitting packs because I wear a small (spine length). My current pack is a Columbia brand and it is no longer made, but it fits me great. I bought an Osprey about 2 years ago in my 'size' and have never really liked it so it sits in the gear closet unused. I did finally part with my beloved external frame pack a few years ago when I found the internal frame Columbia. It was a Jansport with an adjustable frame which was made for boy scouts. Was great for me in the backcountry, but not practical for the Camino. We really only have one local store any more in Boise which will help you load and fit a pack. The others have been put out of business by online stores and REI. Although I enjoy REI, I prefer to get things at the local outfitters when possible.
If you have an interest in this pack, which I am assuming since you are posting on the thread and I apologize if such is not the case, my assessment at this point is that the Ranger would fit well on one needing a small frame size. It sounds like you are already familiar with the steps needed for determining what pack size/fit you need, vs how to adjust it once it you put it on, so I won't offer any advice in that regard :)

I agree with you about buying local, and will do so first. But I will not hesitate to shop online either if I cannot find what I want locally; I will not settle for a substitute item -- unless it is a better product which matches or exceeds what I am looking for-- just for the sole purpose of buying local. And depending on time lines and if the store charges extra to do so, I may or may not accept a local stores offer to order the item which they do not have. And given the limitations of product lines my local 'outdoor' shops carry, it is always a safe bet for me to assume they do not have access to what I want.

So, fuel cartridges, maps, water bottles, filters, etc, I will get locally. The big ticket stuff -- tents, sleeping quilts, backpacks, etc -- not so much. :)
 

Anamya

Keeping it simple
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015)
Portugues (2017)
Lebaniego (2019)
VERY useful photos, Dave! Can the hip pockets be reached without taking the backpack off? Some models have them so far back that it is a bit hard! And what about the width of the hip belts?
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
VERY useful photos, Dave! Can the hip pockets be reached without taking the backpack off? Some models have them so far back that it is a bit hard! And what about the width of the hip belts?
I tried them out with a variety of 1 liter bottle shapes, and I did no have a hard time reaching them, removing them and putting back.

The width and padding appear adequate, as they wrap over the curve of my hipbones, so that the middle of the pad sits just below the crest. The pads do not sit either on top of the hips or below the hips.

I am a bit dubious of the comfort rating of 'up to 25 pounds'. The Frame Sheet will easily support that amount of weight and transfer it to the hipbelt. It subjectively appears to me that the hipbelt structure and construction, without actually loading the pack with any weight, would be better for loads under 20 pounds.

After I actually put a load into it, I will be able to give a better picture of its load carrying capacity, but 20 pounds is what I am thinking right now. Now, that is my untested guess/assessment just for carrying comfort. The materials and frame and construction of the bag can handle 30 to 40 pounds and not break or sag or deform. It is a tough little bag.
 

Rhun Leeding

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Leon to Santiago - Sept/Oct 2015
Camino Ingles & Santiago to Finisterre & Muxia Sept/Oct 2016
Hi Dave,

I'm really sorry - tried on two different browsers (Edge and Chrome), and I don't think the pictures have pulled through on to the thread. Hopefully someone else can confirm this and it isn't me being a fool?
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
Sorry guys... Somehow the pictures didn't survive a change I made for a standalone thread. I'll see what i can do.
 
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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances, 2015
Sorry guys... Somehow they didn't make follow a change I made for a standalone thread. I'll see what i can do.
About 15 minutes after the above post I could see them fine on my Android.
The belt pockets actually can fit up to 4 regular sized Snicker Bars. I used a substitute for the photo :)
Were they good?
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
About 15 minutes after the above post I could see them fine on my Android.

Were they good?
Yeah, I ended up doing an edited to the post and re-posting the pictures. It seems to have worked.

As to the Snickers bars, sadly I had to use a substitute of my wife's cardboard tasting 'health' bar for the actual picture <spitting the bad taste out of my mouth> :)
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
How about the shoulder strap pockets - what can you fit in them?
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
The pictures on the Gossamer Gear website show shoulder strap pockets, and they are mentioned in the video.
20181025-226_RANGER_1024x1024.jpeg
 

linkster

Nunca dejes de creer!
Camino(s) past & future
Francés 05/17 brazo roto Portomarín
Francés 09/17, 09/18 SJPdP - Fisterra
Portuguese ~05/19
My Gorilla 40 is more than I need, but I am stickin' with it!
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
The pictures on the Gossamer Gear website show shoulder strap pockets, and they are mentioned in the video.
:oops:o_O OMG... I completely overlooked them. I just looked at my pack and sure enough they are there just as pictured. I am embarrassed. I was so focused on so many other things about the pack that I blanked them out. Eventually I would have seen them as I started actually using the pack, but I was just too focused on a quick overview of the main features.

Sorry 'bout that.

I used my wife's - Jill - iPhone 6S plus to see if it fit in the pocket, and it does with expansion volume left over. There is a lot of stretch to those mesh pockets, which are of the same material that Gossamer Gear uses in all of its exterior mesh pockets.

Again, I apologize for the mix up.
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
My Gorilla 40 is more than I need, but I am stickin' with it!
You should. My son used the GG Gorilla and I used the larger Mariposa and they worked well on Camino even when they were only partially filled.
 

linkster

Nunca dejes de creer!
Camino(s) past & future
Francés 05/17 brazo roto Portomarín
Francés 09/17, 09/18 SJPdP - Fisterra
Portuguese ~05/19
You should. My son used the GG Gorilla and I used the larger Mariposa and they worked well on Camino even when they were only partially filled.
I turned Camino Mike onto the Gorilla when I got back last year. He got one of the closeouts (previous year with the removable brain) for less than $100.00. We both used Osprey Exos 48s the first time in 2017 ... we should have gone with the 38.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances, 2015
As to the Snickers bars, sadly I had to use a substitute of my wife's cardboard tasting 'health' bar for the actual picture <spitting the bad taste out of my mouth>
Off topic here. That makes the bars survival food instead of meal or snacks. I remember a tip from someone decades ago in Backpacker magazine to pack Gaines-Burgers, a brand of dog food, as survival rations. No way would they be gone before you needed them.
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
I turned Camino Mike onto the Gorilla when I got back last year. He got one of the closeouts (previous year with the removable brain) for less than $100.00. We both used Osprey Exos 48s the first time in 2017 ... we should have gone with the 38.
Take a look at replacing the back pad that came with the Gorilla with the new version. It is much better with airflow and heat. It is a direct replacement.
https://www.gossamergear.com/collections/sleeping-pads/products/air-flow-sitlight-camp-seat
 

cchapin

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2018)
I second @davebugg recommendation on GGs new backpad. My wife and I both used it on our Gorillas this past year and found it a big improvement over the one that came with the pack.
 

wayfarer

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPP-Santiago-Finistera-Muxia. April/May 2012
Sarria-Santiago Sept. 2013
SJPP - Almost Orrison April 2014
I have merged the threads. There is no need for two threads for the same piece of equipment.
 

linkster

Nunca dejes de creer!
Camino(s) past & future
Francés 05/17 brazo roto Portomarín
Francés 09/17, 09/18 SJPdP - Fisterra
Portuguese ~05/19
Take a look at replacing the back pad that came with the Gorilla with the new version. It is much better with airflow and heat. It is a direct replacement.
https://www.gossamergear.com/collections/sleeping-pads/products/air-flow-sitlight-camp-seat
I switched it out when I bought the pack. I used frequently when taking a break. I almost forgot it when I changed my socks one day on the way to Finisterre. I probably walked a block before I noticed my pack felt different and walked back to get.:D:cool:
 

bay hills hiker

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2016), Le Puy Route (portion, 2018), thinking about the Norte (2019?)
Just an FYI for anyone interested in buying a Gossamer Gear backpack - they don't normally discount their current lines, but on Black Friday every year they do run a 20% off sale on all backpacks - I had some nice savings when I bought my Gossamer Gear Gorilla pack. I've had mine for 3+ years now and could not be happier with it. My husband got backpack envy and bought himself a Gossamer Gear Mariposa for his frequent backpacking trips - he loves it so much his old Osprey pack is now mostly gathering dust.
 
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davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
Hmm, photos.... I’ll try on another device. Silly internets.

From your very basic assessment thus far @davebugg do you see this as a good pack for you on the Camino?
Hi, Keith...

I deleted the post that had all of the photos that I took. There seemed to be a problem with having them as a new thread, and they didn't fit into this one. Sorry.

As to whether I personally would use the Ranger, no I would not. I personally do not like panel loading backpacks, and the Ranger is not a capacity of pack which I would use except for a day hike. Do not misunderstand me, though; that is just my personal preference. I would encourage those who are looking for a panel loader of this capacity to strongly consider trying it out.

I find it comfortable wearing it around the house with a 15 pound load. When I am finally able to give it a full testing for Gossamer Gear I will have an even better feel for it, though.
 
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Hi, Keith...

I deleted the post that had all of the photos that I took. There seemed to be a problem with having them as a new thread, and they didn't fit into this one. Sorry.

As to whether I personally would use the Ranger, no I would not. I personally do not like panel loading backpacks, and the Ranger is not a capacity of pack which I would use except for a day hike. Do not misunderstand me, though; that is just my personal preference. I would encourage those who are looking for a panel loader of this capacity to strongly consider trying it out.

I find it comfortable wearing it around the house with a 15 pound load. When I am finally able to give it a full testing for Gossamer Gear I will have an even better feel for it, though.
Interesting. I had assumed that this would be a good size for the Camino. I look forward to your review of it anyway. I’m considering it as a bag for general travel. I almost never check a bag and this one looked good and wasn’t too heavy. I have my Kumo for 2 day hut-to-hut backpacking trips.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
Interesting. I had assumed that this would be a good size for the Camino.
For me it would be the perfect size for the Camino. I walked my first two Caminos with a 36 liter backpack which had plenty of room, and last year I used a 32 liter. It's definitely personal preference.
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
Interesting. I had assumed that this would be a good size for the Camino. I look forward to your review of it anyway. I’m considering it as a bag for general travel. I almost never check a bag and this one looked good and wasn’t too heavy. I have my Kumo for 2 day hut-to-hut backpacking trips.
Keith, it may be a good size for many people. My personal preference is to not have to tightly pack and over organize the stuff that goes into my backpack. I did take the clothing and gear that I normally have carried on my Caminos -- which equals around 9.5 pounds -- and I can make it all fit into the Ranger without anything dangling stuff on the pack. But I do not like having to stuff things in.

But there are a lot of folks who want a small sized pack, and though it isn't what I prefer, I'll be looking at it for quality and performance and not whether I personally like it. If that makes any sense to ya. :)

The Kumo and Ranger will probably feel much the same to you dimension wise... the way the footprint feels on your back.
 
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Keith, it may be a good size for many people. My personal preference is to not have to tightly pack and over organize the stuff that goes into my backpack. I did take the clothing and gear that I normally have carried on my Caminos -- which equals around 9.5 pounds -- and I can make it all fit into the Ranger without anything dangling stuff on the pack. But I do not like having to stuff things in.

But there are a lot of folks who want a small sized pack, and though it isn't what I prefer, I'll be looking at it for quality and performance and not whether I personally like it. If that makes any sense to ya. :)

The Kumo and Ranger will probably feel much the same to you dimension wise... the way the footprint feels on your back.
Sweet. Thanks Dave. I’ll load everything up in my Kumo and my Crown2 and see what I like
 
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For me it would be the perfect size for the Camino. I walked my first two Caminos with a 36 liter backpack which had plenty of room, and last year I used a 32 liter. It's definitely personal preference.
I’m looking forward to loading up my Kumo 36 and see how it does
 

Eugene Carroll

New Member
Dave, thanks for your comprehensive writing on the Ranger 35. Would you, or anyone else on the thread, know if there is a shop in London where I can buy this rucksack?
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
Dave, thanks for your comprehensive writing on the Ranger 35. Would you, or anyone else on the thread, know if there is a shop in London where I can buy this rucksack?
I think that they can only be ordered online directly from Gossamer Gear.
 

davebugg

"When I Have Your Wounded" - Dustoff Motto
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances...
Sept. 2017: SJPdP to Burgos
Sept./Oct. 2018: SJPdP to Santiago de Compostela
Dave, thanks for your comprehensive writing on the Ranger 35. Would you, or anyone else on the thread, know if there is a shop in London where I can buy this rucksack?
I did a quick search, and here are a couple of EU outlets which carry Gossamer Gear, Granite Gear, ULA, Zpacks, and some others. If it is easier to order online from the EU, this will give you an option.

https://backpackinglight.dk/

https://www.trekking-lite-store.com/

https://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/ (UK store) They do not appear to carry Gossamer Gear, but they do carry ULA (UltraLight Adventure), Six Moons Designs, Gregory, Granite Gear, Osprey, and others.
 

amocatnerak

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances April 2018
I’m looking forward to loading up my Kumo 36 and see how it does
I purchased a Kumo last year after my Camino, but have only used it on day hikes so far. I did intend for it to be used for my next Camino, whenever that happens. I think it is a great bag and just the right size for Camino purposes. I used my Osprey 34 liter Stratos in 2018 which was perfectly adequate.
 

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