Brierley Guide

[Ahaj]

Anyone happen to know if there will be a new edition out come January? Mine is a little old and very battered but I'd be happy to keep using it for planning if there's a new one likely before I walk in June.

 

[peregrina2000]

The German "yellow guide" has been translated into English and is going to give Brierley a run for his money, I predict.

https://www.caminodesantiago.me/com...no-frances-is-now-available-in-english.35129/

 

[Anemone del Camino]

Anyone happen to know if there will be a new edition out come January? Mine is a little old and very battered but I'd be happy to keep using it for planning if there's a new one likely before I walk in June.

Just email him, he'll tell you I'm sure.

 

[MTtoCamino]

Yes the German book had very good info on places to stay, I got very spoiled my first two weeks walking with a German.

But to return to the question I know living in Montana we get new books a bit later so depending on your location,

 

[Pilgy]

I thought the new edition was coming out on December 15, 2015.

 

[Ahaj]

Thanks all! I will take a look at the German guide too . I'm in Hong Kong and we certainly won't get either here, sadly, so I will keep my eyes open in the UK bookshops over Christmas!

 

[grayland]

I have a 2016.
Ivar has them available here in the Forum Store.
He can ship immediately.

 

[Ahaj]

I have a 2016.
Ivar has them available here in the Forum Store.
He can ship immediately.

Oh that's great- I'd missed that!

 

[Lachance]

Thanks all! I will take a look at the German guide too . I'm in Hong Kong and we certainly won't get either here, sadly, so I will keep my eyes open in the UK bookshops over Christmas!

Even in Hong Kong! In retrospect, it was hardly surprising to find that a bookshop in Tashkent had no English fiction, but it was a shock at the time, having run out of reads. Much harder for Uzbek travellers overseas of course. TG for ebooks. Off topic again.

 

[Ahaj]

Even in Hong Kong! In retrospect, it was hardly surprising to find that a bookshop in Tashkent had no English fiction, but it was a shock at the time, having run out of reads. Much harder for Uzbek travellers overseas of course. TG for ebooks. Off topic again.

Held out for a long time against e- books- "I'll never do it because I love to hold a book in my hands" but it was the Camino that changed my attitude. How wonderful to have my iPhone loaded with books, maps, apps etc and weighing in at such a light weight. I know Mr Brierley will never go the e- book route sadly so his is my only paper book en route.

 

[Robo]

I know Mr Brierley will never go the e- book route sadly so his is my only paper book en route.

I scanned the whole book and put it on my phone
Sorry Mr Brierley, but this is the 21st Century and we all (well 99%) carry gadgets. Hopefully we have the gumption to turn our phones off when they are not required.

I had 3 books. I certainly wasn't going to carry all that paper...

Though I did carry the book 'cover' with the fold out section maps I wrote my stopping points on that ....

 

[SYates]

The one thing @Robo that still makes me carry a paper guide/print out in some shape or form is that gadgets tend to run out of battery at me in the most inconvenient moments ;-) Buen Camino! SY

 

[Qwertyberty]

I have a 2016.
Ivar has them available here in the Forum Store.
He can ship immediately.

Forum Store is "sold out" for the 2016 edition

 

[SYates]

Amazon has a December 2015 edition here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1844096807/?tag=casaivar02-20 Buen Camino, SY

 

[Qwertyberty]

Amazon has a December 2015 edition here: http://www.amazon.com/dp/1844096807/?tag=casaivar02-20 Buen Camino, SY

Thanks. I've just ordered the 8th edition of maps from that source.

 

[ivar]

Forum Store is "sold out" for the 2016 edition

I am getting new books in the mail in the next 2-3 days.

 

[Anemone del Camino]

Held out for a long time against e- books- "I'll never do it because I love to hold a book in my hands" but it was the Camino that changed my attitude. How wonderful to have my iPhone loaded with books, maps, apps etc and weighing in at such a light weight. I know Mr Brierley will never go the e- book route sadly so his is my only paper book en route.

He has ebooks, look at his website.

 

[Anemone del Camino]

The one thing @Robo that still makes me carry a paper guide/print out in some shape or form is that gadgets tend to run out of battery at me in the most inconvenient moments ;-) Buen Camino! SY

And you can take notes in it, for places you loved, pleaces you'll want to stay at next time, and if there are discrepencies, to let the authors know.

@Robo , for your next Camino, just take a photo of the pages with your phone, no need to spend time scanning.

 

[Ahaj]

He has ebooks, look at his website.

I don't see the main book on the Frances as an ebook- only the maps. Am I missing something?

 

[ivar]

Forum Store is "sold out" for the 2016 edition

I now have the 2016 guide in stock. I also sell the 2015 guide at a discount.
http://www.santiagodecompostela.me/products/from-st-jean-pied-de-port-to-santiago-de-compostela

 

[AllanHG]

Anyone happen to know if there will be a new edition out come January? Mine is a little old and very battered but I'd be happy to keep using it for planning if there's a new one likely before I walk in June.

Try the German one. It's aaianle on English now and better than Brierly in lots of ways. Has information Brierly doesn't have and, more importantly, actually comments on the quality of albergues, etc! I wouldn't exclusively rely on Brierly again.

 

[BrienC]

He has ebooks, look at his website.

I'm not finding the e-book versions. Can you provide a link?

 

[Anemone del Camino]

I don't see the main book on the Frances as an ebook- only the maps. Am I missing something?

You are correct, my apologies, only the maps are on e-format.
http://www.caminoguides.com/index.html

 

[ajadedmug]

I have always been impressed by Cordula Rabe's guide to the Camino Francés in Rother's Wanderführer series. She has also written guides to the Camino Portuguès, Camino del Norte, and Vía de la Plata. Highly recommended.

https://www.rother.de/rother%20wanderf%FChrer-jakobsweg-4330.htm

 

[SYates]

I have always been impressed by Cordula Rabe's guide to the Camino Francés in Rother's Wanderführer series. She has also written guides to the Camino Portuguès, Camino del Norte, and Vía de la Plata. Highly recommended.

https://www.rother.de/rother%20wanderf%FChrer-jakobsweg-4330.htm

The one thing I don't like about the Rother guides, which is also a problem with the Brierley guides, are the pre-defined stages. It really makes it difficult to figure out your own personal rhythm and also encourages "pilgrim waves". I much prefer place-to-place guides where you can design your own stages more easily and swim against the stream. Buen Camino, SY

 

[grayland]

Ivar has the German Yellow book on his store (eBook) for 12.95 euro.

Check the link:
http://www.santiagodecompostela.me/...f-st-james-camino-frances-the-way-is-the-goal

 

[ajadedmug]

The one thing I don't like about the Rother guides, which is also a problem with the Brierley guides, are the pre-defined stages. It really makes it difficult to figure out your own personal rhythm and also encourages "pilgrim waves". I much prefer place-to-place guides where you can design your own stages more easily and swim against the stream. Buen Camino, SY

Yes that is a fair comment. The German Outdoor series ('The Yellow Book' ) deliberately eschews stages for this reason. However, Rabe does point out that nobody is forced to follow her stages, and pilgrims should begin cautiously until they understand their capabilities. Moreover, Rother Guides always deliberately show the preceding and succeeding albergues on all their height profiles, so it's easily possible to 'see past' the stages. If I would criticise the Rother for anything, it would be that they divide the Caminos into too few stages. Otherwise they are hard to fault in their content.

It's also worth pointing out that there is a high degree of overlap between various guides on what the stages are for the Camino Francés, whether this be in caminodesantiago.consumer.es, mundicamino.com, Rother, caminoguides.com, the French Michelin guide etc. The consensus exists for a reason, based on things like a daily average of 20-25km per day (or alternating 20km and 30km days) and size/facilities/cultural highlights/albergue provision etc. of stage end points. As you know, even when Picaud wrote Book V of the Codex Calixtinus, he divided the Camino Francés into recognised stages (fewer than today as he assumed the pilgrim would be on horseback to maintain the schedule).

 

[obinjatoo@yahoo.com]

You could email him and he woud be happy to walk it for you too.

 

[Robo]

The one thing @Robo that still makes me carry a paper guide/print out in some shape or form is that gadgets tend to run out of battery at me in the most inconvenient moments ;-) Buen Camino! SY

Very true! But that need not be a concern if you just carry a spare battery

I often swapped in a fresh batter y during the day. But my 'gadget' was also my stills camera, my movie camera, my note taker, my guide book, my map, my translator, oh, and it had a phone in it..........just in case

I actually took a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, purely because of the ability to pull off the back and swap batteries and memory cards. Sadly the new versions don't have this feature. So back to iPhones now I guess I'll keep the old Samsung as my Camino 'gadget' ....

 

[Mike1953]

Very true! But that need not be a concern if you just carry a spare battery

I often swapped in a fresh batter y during the day. But my 'gadget' was also my stills camera, my movie camera, my note taker, my guide book, my map, my translator, oh, and it had a phone in it..........just in case

I actually took a Samsung Galaxy Note 3, purely because of the ability to pull off the back and swap batteries and memory cards. Sadly the new versions don't have this feature. So back to iPhones now I guess I'll keep the old Samsung as my Camino 'gadget' ....

You could use a case with a back up battery like a Mophie or the new Lifeproof Fre Power. There are also a number of backup batteries that you can connect to your phone with its charger/USB cord.

 

[Deleted member 43985]

And you can take notes in it, for places you loved, pleaces you'll want to stay at next time, and if there are discrepencies, to let the authors know.

@Robo , for your next Camino, just take a photo of the pages with your phone, no need to spend time scanning.

If you want to get a little 'Techie/Geeky' use a free app called Evernote and its free add-on called 'Scannable' you can very quickly and easily scan every page (I cut out all my pages before I begin since I knew it won't be going with me anyway) with your smart phone and it will save it as a single PDF file that you can use on your phone complete with the ability to zoom in on. I love this because it keeps me from having to pull my reading glasses out every time I want to check on something . With the right apps you can also annotate your PDF with notes and mark spots where you stayed too. I use my iPhone for everything (camera, voice recorder to make notes during my day, vlog/blog, GPS, bathroom flashlight, etc) so I bought a Mophie battery pack that extends my battery life by about 150% ensuring I make it through everyday comfortably.

 

[NualaOC]

You are correct, my apologies, only the maps are on e-format.
http://www.caminoguides.com/index.html

I bought a Brierely guide for my kindle in September - it was the Sarria to Finisterre/Muxia one. Maybe there will be e-reader versions of the others in the future.

However, I didn't like the e-book format and wouldn't buy it again. I found scrolling past the non-essential bits quite annoying. I much prefer flicking through a paper guide (but maybe that's an age thing!).

 

[ivar]

Ivar has the German Yellow book on his store (eBook) for 12.95 euro.

Check the link:
http://www.santiagodecompostela.me/...f-st-james-camino-frances-the-way-is-the-goal

This book will be available as a paper book in the forum store from the first week of February (more or less). I will take pre-orders starting the first week of January.

The eBook will go away January 1st, so those that really would like the eBook you have a few more days.

 

[Fiona Lyon]

I now have the 2016 guide in stock. I also sell the 2015 guide at a discount.
http://www.santiagodecompostela.me/products/from-st-jean-pied-de-port-to-santiago-de-compostela

Ivar,
Are we able to purchase a copy (of either) with passport in Sarria on arrival? If so, please advis where.

Thanks,
Fiona.

 

[SYates]

I am not Ivar, but I wouldn't count on finding the Brierley guide for sale in Sarria. BUT you could always ask @ivar to send it poste restante to you in Sarria to pick up on arrival. To find Credenciales in Sarria shouldn't be a problem at all, btw. Buen Camino, SY

 

[Devon Mike]

I am not Ivar, but I wouldn't count on finding the Brierley guide for sale in Sarria. BUT you could always ask @ivar to send it poste restante to you in Sarria to pick up on arrival. To find Credenciales in Sarria shouldn't be a problem at all, btw. Buen Camino, SY

I popped into the Municipal Albergue in Sarria for a stamp and if I remember correctly you can get a credencial there.

Walking into Sarria, just before the town centre the Muni is on the right hand side and easy to find.

 

[sabbott]

I use my iPhone for everything (camera, voice recorder to make notes during my day, vlog/blog, GPS, bathroom flashlight, etc) so I bought a Mophie battery pack that extends my battery life by about 150% ensuring I make it through everyday comfortably.

Jozero, can you tell me which Mophie pack you use? Thanks!

 

[GettingThere]

Ivar,
Are we able to purchase a copy (of either) with passport in Sarria on arrival? If so, please advis where.

Thanks,
Fiona.

There is a pilgrim supplies store in Sarria called Peregrinoteca which is in the town Centre right on the Camino, and which had the Brierley guide in stock when we were there last May.

For the credencial as mentioned above the municipal albergue should have them. I had to get a second one when we got to Sarria and picked one up at the monastery at the top of the hill on the way out of town.

 

[SYates]

I stand corrected, here it is http://www.peregrinoteca.com/tienda...no-de-santiago-2015-john-brierley-p-4177.html
Buen Camino, SY

 

[Dutch]

I am all for e-books....on my phone, ereader, its perfect. 300-600 pages of reading fiction all without the burden of weight, but when it comes to a guidebook that i want to use while walking i will not use it again. I really hate it when i cant see anything because of the sun and i have to find some shade to actually see something. Very hard when no shade is around. And thats just one reason why i dont like guidebooks in e-format.

 

[Deleted member 43985]

Jozero, can you tell me which Mophie pack you use? Thanks!

Hi Sabbott
Here's the link for the Juice Pack Plus : http://www.mophie.com/shop/iphone-5/juice-pack-plus-iphone-5?a92=12
I've found that if I use it only to recharge my phone up to 80% I get close to three charges from it. Truly fantastic! I should also mention that the photo of it on their own website actually makes it look much larger than it is.
Cheers.

 

[Al the optimist]

Anyone happen to know if there will be a new edition out come January? Mine is a little old and very battered but I'd be happy to keep using it for planning if there's a new one likely before I walk in June.

If this is the case it raises the question - Did you get it from another or have you already walked where you intend to walk? If the later then I guess you will not really need a guide at all. I find that I don't on the Caminos I have walked before. For some reason my memory (which my friends find is infamously faulty) surprises me by remembering so much when I am on the Camino. So I don't take one. Or maybe that's just me being minimalist? (I'm idle, I don't like carrying more than I have to).

 

[Fiona Lyon]

I am not Ivar, but I wouldn't count on finding the Brierley guide for sale in Sarria. BUT you could always ask @ivar to send it poste restante to you in Sarria to pick up on arrival. To find Credenciales in Sarria shouldn't be a problem at all, btw. Buen Camino, SY

Thank you.

 

[Ahaj]

If this is the case it raises the question - Did you get it from another or have you already walked where you intend to walk? If the later then I guess you will not really need a guide at all. I find that I don't on the Caminos I have walked before. For some reason my memory (which my friends find is infamously faulty) surprises me by remembering so much when I am on the Camino. So I don't take one. Or maybe that's just me being minimalist? (I'm idle, I don't like carrying more than I have to).

I had to abandon my first Camino at Leon and am returning there to restart. I guess I can just take half the book anyway! I don't suppose there's much difference between recent editions as far as the directions are concerned.

 

[ivar]

Ivar,
Are we able to purchase a copy (of either) with passport in Sarria on arrival? If so, please advis where.

Thanks,
Fiona.

Hi Fiona,

Sorry for my late reply.

You should be able to get the passport in Sarria, no problem. Not sure about the Guide, especially if you want the 2016 guide that came out a few weeks ago. That said, if you just follow the arrows and print out this pdf:
https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/resources/“all”-albergues-on-the-camino-frances-in-one-pdf.10/
...not sure if you need the guide.

Either way, I can ship the guide to any address you give me (hotels and so on) if you need it.

Buen Camino!
Ivar

 

[Al the optimist]

Like Ivar said use an up-to-date albergue list and you should be OK. Buen Camino.

 

[Anemone del Camino]

While all you need to get from point a to point b is the list of albergues (on my first Camino I used the one given in SJPP together with the 1 page with elevations) I really think it would be a pity to walk without any information on the areas you are passing by and spending some time in. Brierly will help in that sense. I walked the Frances with a guide from Pili Pala Presses, now available for free on line, and just loved it for all the legends, anecdotes and historical information it gave me. If you don't wantto carry the weight of a guide consider leaving it at home and taking pictures of its pages. Mind you, I also enjoy writing notes in my guides, I find it to be much useful in terms of memory that a separate diary.

 

[Fiona Lyon]

There is a pilgrim supplies store in Sarria called Peregrinoteca which is in the town Centre right on the Camino, and which had the Brierley guide in stock when we were there last May.

For the credencial as mentioned above the municipal albergue should have them. I had to get a second one when we got to Sarria and picked one up at the monastery at the top of the hill on the way out of town.

Thank you