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Bringing CBD Oil to Europe in Luggage

Reggie (Scout)

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Frances/2019
I've been considering the idea of bringing CBD oil with me for my Camino. Several folks have recommended it as a remedy for various ailments. I know there are differing views on the use, but what are the 'rules' about bringing it with you to Europe? I plan on bringing a luggage to transfer. Thanks in advance!
 

trecile

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I've been considering the idea of bringing CBD oil with me for my Camino. Several folks have recommended it as a remedy for various ailments. I know there are differing views on the use, but what are the 'rules' about bringing it with you to Europe? I plan on bringing a luggage to transfer. Thanks in advance!
I don't know where you are coming from, but if it's from the US the answer is NO! you can't fly with it.

 

Anamya

Keeping it simple
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015)
Portugues (2017)
Lebaniego (2019)
Although there has been a lot of discussion about medicinal use in Spain and the legality of it is under review, it seems it is still ilegal to import any CBD derived product into the country. Punishment is jail time.

If it is not a medicine you regularly use, I would not risk trying to take it with you. In the camino, take only the strictly necessary - even for medicines. Pharmacias are excellent in Spain and if you need anything, the pharmacists will be experienced in helping pilgrims and recommending adequate treatment.
 

scruffy1

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Holy Year from Pamplona 2010, SJPP 2011, Lisbon 2012, Le Puy 2013, Vezelay (partial watch this space!) 2014; 2015 Toulouse-Puenta la Reina (Arles)
The Google Gura maintains "Cannabis oil (CBD) is legal in Europe, as it is classed as a food-based product". Fine, h-o-w-e-v-e-r, as you pass through airports, train stations, bus stations etc you may be encountered by "sniffer" dogs looking for travelers attempting to pass drugs. Sniffer dogs do not differentiate between cannabis as a food-based product and a pouch of weed or a block of hash. Do you really need such a hassle?
 

Bradypus

Antediluvian
Camino(s) past & future
Too many and too often!
The Google Gura maintains "Cannabis oil (CBD) is legal in Europe, as it is classed as a food-based product".
That seems a overly simplistic and misleading summary of the current position. "Europe" is not a single homogeneous entity - individual countries each have their own policies with regards to cannabis and its derivatives. A recent statement from an official EU agency concerned with drugs policy points out that the legal situation and classification of different products varies considerably between EU member countries. http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/news/2018/low-thc-cannabis-products-being-sold-in-the-EU–key-legal-issues_en
 

Kathar1na

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The Google Gura maintains "Cannabis oil (CBD) is legal in Europe, as it is classed as a food-based product".
When I googled this line, the only source that came up was an October 2017 article in the "Costa Blanca News" 😀.

An overview published in 2018 by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/), which is an official EU agency, starts by saying that there is little harmonisation among EU Member States in the laws penalising unauthorised cannabis use or supply. Some countries legally treat cannabis like other drugs; in others, penalties vary according to the drug or offence involved. Which I think is a more accurate assessment of the situation.

Edited to add: The title of the EMCDDA report is "Cannabis legislation in Europe".
 

scruffy1

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That seems a overly simplistic and misleading summary of the current position. "Europe" is not a single homogeneous entity - individual countries each have their own policies with regards to cannabis and its derivatives. A recent statement from an official EU agency concerned with drugs policy points out that the legal situation and classification of different products varies considerably between EU member countries. http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/news/2018/low-thc-cannabis-products-being-sold-in-the-EU–key-legal-issues_en
My only contention is not legal/illegal but rather there is absolutely no need to create unnecessary and easily resolved headaches. Leave the stuff at home!
 

scruffy1

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When I googled this line, the only source that came up was an October 2017 article in the "Costa Blanca News" 😀.

An overview published in 2018 by the European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/), which is an official EU agency, starts by saying that there is little harmonisation among EU Member States in the laws penalising unauthorised cannabis use or supply. Some countries legally treat cannabis like other drugs; in others, penalties vary according to the drug or offence involved. Which I think is a more accurate assessment of the situation.

Edited to add: The title of the EMCDDA report is "Cannabis legislation in Europe".
See my reply to Bradypyus.
 

Stroller123

Member
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Planning Italy to Finisterre and back (20xx)
If it's legal in Spain you'll be able to find it in pharmacies and herbalist shops, so no need to bring it.

But if you are referring to hemp oil then it's a food product like linseed oil, sesame seed oil, almond oil and the like and you'll be able to find it in big supermarkets.
 

scruffy1

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If it's legal in Spain you'll be able to find it in pharmacies and herbalist shops, so no need to bring it.

But if you are referring to hemp oil then it's a food product like linseed oil, sesame seed oil, almond oil and the like and you'll be able to find it in big supermarkets.
As a side note - should you ever be in a situation where your Spanglish cannot see you through, know that pharmacists are usually the best English speakers around. They will help you out and they will also know all about CBD
 

t2andreo

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That seems a overly simplistic and misleading summary of the current position. "Europe" is not a single homogeneous entity - individual countries each have their own policies with regards to cannabis and its derivatives. A recent statement from an official EU agency concerned with drugs policy points out that the legal situation and classification of different products varies considerably between EU member countries. http://www.emcdda.europa.eu/news/2018/low-thc-cannabis-products-being-sold-in-the-EU–key-legal-issues_en
Relative to individual countries using their own, non EU-wide rules, I had something analogous happen to me a couple of years ago. For many years, post 9-11 I have traveled through airports all over the world carrying a Gerber Dime 'Travel' pocket multi-tool. I bought this tool because it has NO cutting blade...period. It is certified TSA-compliant and I never had a problem, including going and out of the EU.

On this one trip, I landed at Madrid, went through passport control then proceeded to my connecting flight up to Santiago de Compostela. Those of you who have done this know you must pass through Spanish aviation security before you get to the tram to head for the satellite terminal at T-4.

I emptied my pockets and the inspector told me they were confiscating the pocket tool. I asked why, He said "..porque..." So, I politely asked for the supervisor. She spoke very good English. I explained the history of this multitool, including all my past travels. I added that this particular tool is also compliant with the EU security regulations. I had specifically read the rules before packing.

When I politely informed them that the multitool was EU complaint, the supervisor smiled and said sweetly, "...but senor, this is Spain...this is considered a tool." I asked how this was the same as a full-sized tool (which might be used as a weapon)? Anyway, away went my multitool. I now check everything that could remotely be considered a weapon OR a tool.

So, do not rely on what you read aforehand. Always take the conservative option. Discretion works...only sometimes... Do not allow Murphy's Law to grab you.

Hope this helps...
 
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C clearly

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there is absolutely no need to create unnecessary and easily resolved headaches. Leave the stuff at home!
Exactly. Why would anyone do this, with a product they haven't used before, based on recommendations from "folks", knowing that there might be legal complications?
 

Delphinoula

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C Franconia 2019
Camino desde Algeciras Sevillia (2019)
Consult your foreign office for specific regulations for every port you pass. You get a green light there bring your doctors prescription in translation and be careful with the amounts.
If a simple pepper spray gets nixt, what do you thing drug related items will do?
 

tpmchugh

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2013)
Camino Frances (2015)
I've been considering the idea of bringing CBD oil with me for my Camino. Several folks have recommended it as a remedy for various ailments. I know there are differing views on the use, but what are the 'rules' about bringing it with you to Europe? I plan on bringing a luggage to transfer. Thanks in advance!
I dont know about Spain but it is a definite no-no in England so I would imagine it would be the same throughout Europe. There was a highly publicised case in England last year so even for medicinal purposes it vaused a storm of press time for weeks.
 

tpmchugh

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2013)
Camino Frances (2015)
The Google Gura maintains "Cannabis oil (CBD) is legal in Europe, as it is classed as a food-based product". Fine, h-o-w-e-v-e-r, as you pass through airports, train stations, bus stations etc you may be encountered by "sniffer" dogs looking for travelers attempting to pass drugs. Sniffer dogs do not differentiate between cannabis as a food-based product and a pouch of weed or a block of hash. Do you really need such a hassle?
Agree, but btw, dont believe everything you find via google :)
 

Mugatu

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances, Finisterre, Muxia (2018)
Camino Frances or Norte (2019 , June 27-Aug 8)
I've been considering the idea of bringing CBD oil with me for my Camino. Several folks have recommended it as a remedy for various ailments. I know there are differing views on the use, but what are the 'rules' about bringing it with you to Europe? I plan on bringing a luggage to transfer. Thanks in advance!
You can purchase it Barcelona, last year while walking out of Leon I noticed a sign just out of the city advertising products and such, then asked my Spanish Camino friend about it as we walked. He told me you can find stores like this in Barcelona; however, prices can be inflated.

After reading your post and simple google search, I confirmed what he said. Forget the hassle of transporting it and purchase it in Spain if it’s necessary for your needs. I’m sure it’s possible for you to find it in the larger metropolitan cities.
 

rorygilmore

Member
Camino(s) past & future
April May 2019 (hopefully! still on the fence!
Not sure about Spain but it's legal in Germany and Ireland. Google and see! I would maybe buy it in Spain if it is legal to do so though, depending on where you're travelling from. Definitely illegal in England.
 

rorygilmore

Member
Camino(s) past & future
April May 2019 (hopefully! still on the fence!
If it is legal in Spain/France I will definitely bring some from Germany!
 

rorygilmore

Member
Camino(s) past & future
April May 2019 (hopefully! still on the fence!
Just did a quick google and it is legal in France too. I will definitely bring some then, it's a lifesaver for sleep issues and muscular pain. Gonna bring heaps of magnesium too.
 

Mugatu

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances, Finisterre, Muxia (2018)
Camino Frances or Norte (2019 , June 27-Aug 8)
Just did a quick google and it is legal in France too. I will definitely bring some then, it's a lifesaver for sleep issues and muscular pain. Gonna bring heaps of magnesium too.
Look into ZMA ... helps with musculoskeletal recovery and sleep... basically Zinc, Magnesium,B6... but be sure to monitor...how do I say this with some tact... your daily “movements” for changes.
 

RJM

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
A few times
A cannabis based oil? Really? Why even complicate you travel overseas in the first place? Complicate it to the point of possible arrest or seizure.
 

Kathar1na

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Santiago and beyond (own way + voie de Tours + CF + Gulf of Biscay + English Channel)
See my reply to Bradypyus.
Thank you. Yes, we posted nearly identical replies at nearly the same time.

At this moment in time - March 2019 - I have a sort of allergic knee jerk reaction to any kind of generalisation that starts with "In the EU ..." and where I know it is based on a lack of information or indeed an unwillingness to find information that is widely available and because it is based on the erroneous assumption that every law in one's own country has been dictated by Brussels and applies EU wide (and that includes aviation security!). Just such a fundamental lack of understanding how things work here. They usually can't even tell a regulation from a directive or the ECJ from Strasbourg 🤣.

But you are excused, @scruffy1 🙂. My reaction is mainly directed at British MPs, a section of the global news media and their gullible regular clientele. Interesting to learn that one can apparently buy low-THC or CBD products in stores in Leon and Barcelona. I suppose that would be pharmacies or health food shops? But it's not for me: I don't even use Voltaren gel or Arnica ointment. 😎
 
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Camino(s) past & future
Frances(2006) portugues(2013)San Salvador (2017)
This oil was my new learning for yesterday. As I had never heard of it, I asked in my pottery class last night, and one of the class pulled a little bottle with a dropper from his pocket. He said it is used as a painkiller. I think I will stick to my tried and true, although I am glad to have learned something new.
(this is in Ireland )
 

Bonita

Member
Camino(s) past & future
September ( 2015)
I don't know where you are coming from, but if it's from the US the answer is NO! you can't fly with it.

I brought mine from the US to Panama. For me it didn’t do anything and I wasted money. You can get it all over Spain. I just bought the cream. Another waste of time.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances(2006) portugues(2013)San Salvador (2017)
Another link to cbd oil: available in a tea, called Go To Feck (quote). That word is not the curse word. It seems to be fairly well known except to dinosaurs like me! I learned that in the learning Centre I volunteer in once a week.
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF: '06: SJPP -> San. '10 - '11: Pamplona -> Finisterre '12: Ponferrada -> San. CN: '12: Irun -> San
I've been considering the idea of bringing CBD oil with me for my Camino. Several folks have recommended it as a remedy for various ailments. I know there are differing views on the use, but what are the 'rules' about bringing it with you to Europe? I plan on bringing a luggage to transfer. Thanks in advance!
Maybe this has already been answered, but is it hemp based or cannabis based? There is a HUGE difference!
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF: '06: SJPP -> San. '10 - '11: Pamplona -> Finisterre '12: Ponferrada -> San. CN: '12: Irun -> San
Hemp based
If that's the case you should be FINE! Though, I would rec buying it there.
Perhaps you can find this store... I'm not sure where it is located. Or, contact them and say you'll be at a certain hotel and have it shipped there...
Another option is https://organicespana.com/. They're in Malaga and their products look very good! https://organicespana.com/product-category/cbd-oil/
CBD oil is very misunderstood. The moment you mention hemp or cannabis people start making all sorts of assumptions.
Let me know what you discover! I use CBD daily!
<3
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
If that's the case you should be FINE! Though, I would rec buying it there.
Perhaps you can find this store... I'm not sure where it is located. Or, contact them and say you'll be at a certain hotel and have it shipped there...
Another option is https://organicespana.com/. They're in Malaga and their products look very good! https://organicespana.com/product-category/cbd-oil/
CBD oil is very misunderstood. The moment you mention hemp or cannabis people start making all sorts of assumptions.
Let me know what you discover! I use CBD daily!
<3
I still wouldn't risk traveling by air with it.
According to this article, the TSA doesn't differentiate between cannabis and hemp products.
From the linked article:

The following is quoted from the TSA’s website:

Possession of marijuana and cannabis infused products, such as Cannabidiol (CBD) oil, is illegal under federal law.
Essentially, the rule includes all medical marijuana, and hemp-based supplements alike including CBD. The TSA makes no distinction between hemp and marijuana. The TSA is also exempt from state laws, as they operate under federal law. Which means that even if your products are totally legal where you live, you still cannot bring them onto the airplane.
 
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I still wouldn't risk traveling by air with it.
According to this article, the TSA doesn't differentiate between cannabis and hemp products.
From the linked article:

The following is quoted from the TSA’s website:


Essentially, the rule includes all medical marijuana, and hemp-based supplements alike including CBD. The TSA makes no distinction between hemp and marijuana. The TSA is also exempt from state laws, as they operate under federal law. Which means that even if your products are totally legal where you live, you still cannot bring them onto the airplane.
I agree 100%! I guess I was talking more about buying it there and the legalities of it. But trecile is spot on!
 

Tazz

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Fatima/SDC (2019)
I haven’t read all responses but it appears you haven’t yet tried CBD oil to see if it helps you or not. Or whether it impairs your function.
It is legal in Canada where I live but has not been proven as a treatment for acute non-neuropathic type pain.
I think I’d pass on this treatment and use
I) ear plugs +\- vino tinto for sleep
II) ice and voltaren gel for my soft tissues

JIT
 

cbacino

Member
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Camino del Norte - Primitivo (2018)
Via Francigena (2017)
Appalachian Trail (2016)
I've been considering the idea of bringing CBD oil with me for my Camino. Several folks have recommended it as a remedy for various ailments. I know there are differing views on the use, but what are the 'rules' about bringing it with you to Europe? I plan on bringing a luggage to transfer. Thanks in advance!
Seriously? You would actually consider travel abroad with a cannabis product?
 

newfydog

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I was surprised last year, talking to an elderly couple (from conservative Oklahoma) in France---They had brought some CBD with them, had no problems. I wondered if they would bring it back as easily.

If it is available in France and Spain, post info on where to buy it. Seems smarter than travelling with it.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
I was surprised last year, talking to an elderly couple (from conservative Oklahoma) in France---They had brought some CBD with them, had no problems. I wondered if they would bring it back as easily.

If it is available in France and Spain, post info on where to buy it. Seems smarter than travelling with it.
I was shocked to find out that an older friend of mine and her husband traveled to Ireland with CBD gummies that contain THC. Since we live in a state where recreational marijuana is legal they didn't think that it was a big deal. I'm sure that many people get away with it, but I don't want to put that to the test myself.
 

ClaireJJ

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
French Way (2017); Hope for French Way again (2019)
I've been considering the idea of bringing CBD oil with me for my Camino. Several folks have recommended it as a remedy for various ailments. I know there are differing views on the use, but what are the 'rules' about bringing it with you to Europe? I plan on bringing a luggage to transfer. Thanks in advance!
I appreciate you asking the question. I hadn't really thought of bringing CBD oil, but now I have and the answers you have gotten to your question reminded me I need to be a little more careful in assigning products to my "nobody cares" category. Guess I'll leave my CBD oil at home on domestic flights also - seriously, I'd never given it a thought!
 

lizlane

Small Town Girl, Small Town World
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2019
I think alot of it depends on what is in your CBD oil. I live in the American South, medical cannabis is not legal but CBD is. The one I just purchased from a local store has 0.03 content of THC. The cannabinoid is different from the part that gets you high. I'm flying into Madrid and training to Pamplona. They have cannabis clubs readily available for all Spanish citizens in Madrid and Barcelona. Honestly, I prefer cannabis off the stem vs an oil but I also have a spinal condition that causes one leg to be shorter and one hip higher. Trust me it's not fun. I've looked through the threads because on good days I can get by with aspirin, ibuprofen, and tylenol. Not on bad ones. What are the options for treating pain and medical conditions on the Camino with controlled substancses, narcotic pain relievers. I am willing to have this comment split into a different thread if need arises. I'm just concerned. I've heard the pharmacists have more dispensing power than the US but does that mean that they can prescribe opiates? I definitely have an issue with alcohol so please don't respond wine or beer. xoxo Lizzy
 

Reggie (Scout)

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances/2019
I haven’t read all responses but it appears you haven’t yet tried CBD oil to see if it helps you or not. Or whether it impairs your function.
It is legal in Canada where I live but has not been proven as a treatment for acute non-neuropathic type pain.
I think I’d pass on this treatment and use
I) ear plugs +\- vino tinto for sleep
II) ice and voltaren gel for my soft tissues

JIT
You are mistaken. I have tried it, and it helps with sleep. I have recently tried it with foot pain and it helps with that. It is not cannibis, it is made from hemp oil. I don't need advice on sleep issues. I've dealt with insomnia with 12 years. Until you've been there, don't be glib handing out judgment. Thank you anyway.
 

Reggie (Scout)

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances/2019
Exactly. Why would anyone do this, with a product they haven't used before, based on recommendations from "folks", knowing that there might be legal complications?
Take a chill pill. I have tried it. I was referring to bringing it on the Camino as a regular remedy. But, it seems I'll need to buy it there as it seems to be available. Nuf said.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
I've been considering the idea of bringing CBD oil with me for my Camino. Several folks have recommended it as a remedy for various ailments. I know there are differing views on the use, but what are the 'rules' about bringing it with you to Europe? I plan on bringing a luggage to transfer. Thanks in advance!
To be fair to those who should take a "chill pill", in your initial post you didn't say anything about having prior experience with it. You just said that "several folks have recommended it as a remedy for various ailments."
 
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My son put me onto CBD oil which is sold here in the health food shops and appears to be perfectly legal to purchase there. This is the UK where drugs are strictly regimented and we often need a doctor's prescription for silly little things which are sold over the counter in other countries.
 

Delphinoula

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C Franconia 2019
Camino desde Algeciras Sevillia (2019)
Hi I saw last week on the Camino in Spain CBD products sold in soaps and creams. I do not know the concentration and so on but you may find in Spain what you need, without taking anything through border patrol. And on the way back. Same for all your prescriptions needs to come with your docs prescription best in Spanish translation and only in the amount you need for your trip. So no pill party😜. Chill pill will be provided by the Camino in increasing doses, but hard to wean off after the Camino.
 

RobertS26

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Camino Frances, (2014)
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I was surprised last year, talking to an elderly couple (from conservative Oklahoma) in France---They had brought some CBD with them, had no problems. I wondered if they would bring it back as easily.
I am a criminal defense attorney in the United States. I pay for my Camino’s (including lie flat Business Class seats) by representing people who make poor decisions based upon internet searches and/or advice from non-lawyers found in internet forums. If you’ve ever wanted to know what the floor of a US airport smelled liked, and wondered if being handcuffed is fun, then by all means put things like this in your luggage.
 

Lirsy

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo (2017), Norte (2017), Frances (2017), Portugues (2018), La Plata (2018)
I think that up to a certain amount is legal. Even the use of marijuana is not illegal in Spain, but its traffic is.

My advice is that in case you decide to bring it, declare it to the police at customs. If finally it is not legal, which I doubt, the police will confiscate it, which is much better than having a problem in the customs.

Anyway, my recommendation, except in case you really need it, would be no to risk. From a different point of view ... you will save some weight in your backpack!! 😂
 
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