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amsimoes

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The “Caminho do Mar”, is a pilgrimage route, fully identified and signalized with blue and yellow arrows and in some cases with landmarks from the door of the Church of Estoril (St. Anthony's Church), to Fatima and if the the Pilgrims wishing may go to Santiago de Compostela, the Caminho Central to Santiago (by Ansião) or Caminho Nascente (by Tomar).
More than 80% of the route is either off-road or for municipal roads, virtually without traffic. It is of rare beauty and you will find many moments of contemplation and silence all the way.
The “Caminho do Mar”, is signposted from the day April 27, 2013. And the total route between Estoril and Fátima is around 205 kms.

CAMINHO DO MAR:
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/3126

A route preferably off-road to avoid traffic and road hazard, but also so that the path to provide an environment Pilgrims but contemplative. Obviously always crossing locations that could provide logistical support.
About the historical background, how do you know the way to Fatima has about 100 years. But the Camino de Santiago has more than 1,000.
We based the identification of this pathway in the tradition of pilgrims who came from Lisbon by land or sea to Cascais, stayed overnight in the convent of St. Jerome in the Penha Longa and continued by Sintra, Mafra, Torres Vedras, Caldas Rainha, etc ....
There are historical records, one of the connoisseurs of this tradition and reality is Prof. Vitor Manuel Adrião, a historian and published books on the subject, such as the book "Santiago de Compostela - Mysteries of the Portuguese Route."
Inflection for Fatima, is a tradition of the last 100 years, of the people that the path crosses.
Further proof of tradition and existence of this path, you will find a printed image on the Credential Pilgrim provided by the Archdiocese of Santiago de Compostela.
I take this opportunity to inform you that are already flagged the path Nazaré to Fatima, joining the two Marian Shrines.

CAMINHO NAZARÉ - FÁTIMA
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/3127

We are currently create awareness and stimulate entities to open albergues for pilgrims. However, and while there are no albergues the “Caminho do Mar” ask in the name of the CNC accommodation establishments along the Camino the route of the Sea, which had some special conditions.
In the document there is information about the accommodation. But more than doing a special price, we know that these lodgings accomodate with affection the pilgrims.

CENTRO NACIONAL DE CULTURA:
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/15

CAMINHO FÁTIMA – TOMAR (Caminho Nascente)
http://caminho.com.pt/mapas.html
http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=izsolapzyxmspdfp&language=pt

AND
CAMINHO FÁTIMA – ANSIÃO (Caminho Central to Santiago)
http://caminho.com.pt/mapas.html
https://www.facebook.com/amigosdocaminho?fref=photo
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/3125

PS. The shorter steps are indicated with red color and are intended to pilgrims who do not intend to make more than 20 km daily. These stages were selected based on the accommodation and transport existence (bus or train).
I also take this opportunity to indicate villages with tourist interest.
 

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peregrina2000

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Aurelio, thanks so much for providing all the information. What an enormous amount of work you have put into it with the short stages already figured out! I'm betting that there will be more and more pilgrim traffic on this route. And it passes through Sintra, Óbidos, and Alcobaça, that's a real added treat. I have to say the monastery in Alcobaça is one of my favorites anywhere.

Do you know the route into Sintra? Would it allow the pilgrim to visit some of the more out of the way Sintra sites, like Montserrate and the cork monastery?
 

Albertinho

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The Caminho do Mar passes at the crossroads of the Capuchin Convent (monastery with walls lined with cork), Quinta da Regaleira, Seteais Hotel, National Palace (center). As you know it takes at least two days to visit Sintra.
The short stage list is a good thing. I noticed long distances over 20 kms and no places to sleep so now this list is a good thing

Thanks for posting Aurelio
 

peregrina2000

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The Caminho do Mar passes at the crossroads of the Capuchin Convent (monastery with walls lined with cork), Quinta da Regaleira, Seteais Hotel, National Palace (center). As you know it takes at least two days to visit Sintra.

Just what I need, another camino to put on my wish list.

I agree with you Sintra needs at least two days, and just as important, I think, Sintra needs a night or two -- it's such a beautiful place when the unbelievable hordes of tourists have left.
 

MaidinBham

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Oh dear, more reading! Thanks amsimoes, for posting and taking time to translate into English. Shame my guide book does not include Caminho do mar. I particularly like that it has more natural paths and less roads and traffic. Would it take the same number of stages to do this as opposed to doing Caminho Central?
Thanks,

Janice
 
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MaidinBham

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By Caminho do Mar you need more three days than Caminho Central.
I did the Caminho Central (Lisbon-Alverca-Azambuja-Santarém-Tomar-.....Santiago).
I'm thinking of doing the Caminho do Mar (Lisbon-Estoril-Sintra-Mafra-Torres Vedras-Bombarral-Caldas da Rainha-Alcobaça-Fátima), you still need one more step to get to Tomar (you can use the bus) or Ansião, to find the Caminho Central. Or you can also use the bus and start in Coimbra.
This year (2016) is important because it makes 500th anniversary of the beatification of Queen Santa Isabel (the albergue is in his monastery). Lisbon goes, this March, starting at the National Art Museum an exhibition on the 500th anniversary of the beatification which shows, among other items, his stick of pilgrim.
In Lisbon you have trains to Estoril (and Cascais) and to Sintra.

Thank you for this amsimoes, I followed your excellent links, but was still having trouble with Portuguese. Three more days - I think this will be feasible for me and days I have I think I will start Estoril Caminho do Mar to Tomar > Santiago. I had read about beautification of Queen Santa Isabel and plan to go to the convent.
I also found info at
http://www.amigosdelcamino.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=143&Itemid=129&lang=es

But I dont think any about Caminho do Mar.
Thanks again
Bom Caminho

Janice
 

clach

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Caminho Portoguese (2016)
I just walked today from Sintra to Ericeira: nobody knows the existence of a route in Sintra, including the tourist office. I did not see any arrow until 3km before Ericeira. It was brutal, almost all th way on a high trafficked national road
 

HenkSlb

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2017
Hi
Yesterday I finished the first stage of the the Caminho do Mar, from Estoril to Sintra.
It is well signposted, passes through very beautiful places.
Stage with an easy degree of difficulty, except the climb of Sintra Mountain (3,5 km), from View attachment 24788 View attachment 24789 the Rio da Mula to the Convento

Plesae Mr Aurelio, can you tell me at what times the church (St Anthony's) in Estoril is opened to get a carimbo as the first one for a caminho from Estoril through Fatima to Santiago? Thank you!
 

HenkSlb

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2017
Hi
The secretarial services of the church Santo António of Estoril, have the following schedule:

From Monday to Friday: from 10h00 to 12h00, and from 16h00 to 19h00;
Saturday from 10h00 to 12h00.

If you're going to do this path I recommend to download the file with the way, because some of the arrows are not very visible.

http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=aoqcngtbjihdbxvp
Thank you for the information!
 

Fatty Walker

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Is there any gps tracks for this route that I could put on my phone. I find looking at the gps tracks against google earth helps with the planning as gives me a good idea to see if I fancy walking this way instead of the inland route from Lisbon
 
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peregrina2000

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These are the tracks from Lisboa to Fatima. From Fatima, you can join up with the Camino by going east to Tomar on the Caminho Nascente.

https://www.wikiloc.com/wikiloc/view.do?id=8835739

You can see that there is really no sea walking to speak of -- These tracks start in Estoril, but you can also start in Lisbon. I think the tracks for that part show you walking along a very busy road the whole time (but at least it is separated from traffic).
 

shefollowsshells

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The “Caminho do Mar”, is a pilgrimage route, fully identified and signalized with blue and yellow arrows and in some cases with landmarks from the door of the Church of Estoril (St. Anthony's Church), to Fatima and if the the Pilgrims wishing may go to Santiago de Compostela, the Caminho Central to Santiago (by Ansião) or Caminho Nascente (by Tomar).
More than 80% of the route is either off-road or for municipal roads, virtually without traffic. It is of rare beauty and you will find many moments of contemplation and silence all the way.
The “Caminho do Mar”, is signposted from the day April 27, 2013. And the total route between Estoril and Fátima is around 205 kms.

CAMINHO DO MAR:
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/3126

A route preferably off-road to avoid traffic and road hazard, but also so that the path to provide an environment Pilgrims but contemplative. Obviously always crossing locations that could provide logistical support.
About the historical background, how do you know the way to Fatima has about 100 years. But the Camino de Santiago has more than 1,000.
We based the identification of this pathway in the tradition of pilgrims who came from Lisbon by land or sea to Cascais, stayed overnight in the convent of St. Jerome in the Penha Longa and continued by Sintra, Mafra, Torres Vedras, Caldas Rainha, etc ....
There are historical records, one of the connoisseurs of this tradition and reality is Prof. Vitor Manuel Adrião, a historian and published books on the subject, such as the book "Santiago de Compostela - Mysteries of the Portuguese Route."
Inflection for Fatima, is a tradition of the last 100 years, of the people that the path crosses.
Further proof of tradition and existence of this path, you will find a printed image on the Credential Pilgrim provided by the Archdiocese of Santiago de Compostela.
I take this opportunity to inform you that are already flagged the path Nazaré to Fatima, joining the two Marian Shrines.

CAMINHO NAZARÉ - FÁTIMA
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/3127

We are currently create awareness and stimulate entities to open albergues for pilgrims. However, and while there are no albergues the “Caminho do Mar” ask in the name of the CNC accommodation establishments along the Camino the route of the Sea, which had some special conditions.
In the document there is information about the accommodation. But more than doing a special price, we know that these lodgings accomodate with affection the pilgrims.

CENTRO NACIONAL DE CULTURA:
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/15

CAMINHO FÁTIMA – TOMAR (Caminho Nascente)
http://caminho.com.pt/mapas.html
http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=izsolapzyxmspdfp&language=pt

AND
CAMINHO FÁTIMA – ANSIÃO (Caminho Central to Santiago)
http://caminho.com.pt/mapas.html
https://www.facebook.com/amigosdocaminho?fref=photo
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/3125

PS. The shorter steps are indicated with red color and are intended to pilgrims who do not intend to make more than 20 km daily. These stages were selected based on the accommodation and transport existence (bus or train).
I also take this opportunity to indicate villages with tourist interest.
 

shefollowsshells

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What a generous sharing!!!! Thank you for all of this information. I hope to be doing just this next year!!!!
Thank you, Thank you, thank you!!!!!
 

PeterO

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Thank you for all of this information, im preparing a group to do this way at the end of this summer.
Thanks!
 

Giu'

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Camino Portugues from Lisbon to Finisterre in 2016, and will to walk on the Camino do Mar...now
Hi, in the next days I would like to walk on this route, and I'm searching for updated info about it, above all about the possible accommodations. Two years ago I walked on the Portuguese most popular route, and between Lisbon and Porto (so in towns as Santarem, Golega, Tomar, ecc), where any pilgrims albergues still existed, I always slept at "Casa de Misericordia" or bombeiros' places. Do you know if they offer hospitality along the Caminho do Mar, too? Muito obrigado pilgrims!
 
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futurefjp

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The “Caminho do Mar”, is a pilgrimage route, fully identified and signalized with blue and yellow arrows and in some cases with landmarks from the door of the Church of Estoril (St. Anthony's Church), to Fatima and if the the Pilgrims wishing may go to Santiago de Compostela, the Caminho Central to Santiago (by Ansião) or Caminho Nascente (by Tomar).
More than 80% of the route is either off-road or for municipal roads, virtually without traffic. It is of rare beauty and you will find many moments of contemplation and silence all the way.
The “Caminho do Mar”, is signposted from the day April 27, 2013. And the total route between Estoril and Fátima is around 205 kms.

CAMINHO DO MAR:
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/3126

A route preferably off-road to avoid traffic and road hazard, but also so that the path to provide an environment Pilgrims but contemplative. Obviously always crossing locations that could provide logistical support.
About the historical background, how do you know the way to Fatima has about 100 years. But the Camino de Santiago has more than 1,000.
We based the identification of this pathway in the tradition of pilgrims who came from Lisbon by land or sea to Cascais, stayed overnight in the convent of St. Jerome in the Penha Longa and continued by Sintra, Mafra, Torres Vedras, Caldas Rainha, etc ....
There are historical records, one of the connoisseurs of this tradition and reality is Prof. Vitor Manuel Adrião, a historian and published books on the subject, such as the book "Santiago de Compostela - Mysteries of the Portuguese Route."
Inflection for Fatima, is a tradition of the last 100 years, of the people that the path crosses.
Further proof of tradition and existence of this path, you will find a printed image on the Credential Pilgrim provided by the Archdiocese of Santiago de Compostela.
I take this opportunity to inform you that are already flagged the path Nazaré to Fatima, joining the two Marian Shrines.

CAMINHO NAZARÉ - FÁTIMA
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/3127

We are currently create awareness and stimulate entities to open albergues for pilgrims. However, and while there are no albergues the “Caminho do Mar” ask in the name of the CNC accommodation establishments along the Camino the route of the Sea, which had some special conditions.
In the document there is information about the accommodation. But more than doing a special price, we know that these lodgings accomodate with affection the pilgrims.

CENTRO NACIONAL DE CULTURA:
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/15

CAMINHO FÁTIMA – TOMAR (Caminho Nascente)
http://caminho.com.pt/mapas.html
http://www.gpsies.com/map.do?fileId=izsolapzyxmspdfp&language=pt

AND
CAMINHO FÁTIMA – ANSIÃO (Caminho Central to Santiago)
http://caminho.com.pt/mapas.html
https://www.facebook.com/amigosdocaminho?fref=photo
http://www.cnc.pt/artigo/3125

PS. The shorter steps are indicated with red color and are intended to pilgrims who do not intend to make more than 20 km daily. These stages were selected based on the accommodation and transport existence (bus or train).
I also take this opportunity to indicate villages with tourist interest.
I'm on this route from today. Leaving Lisbon this morning and then continuing from Cascais in the morning. Is there a more "up-to-date" list of accommodations?
 

futurefjp

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2013
Hi, in the next days I would like to walk on this route, and I'm searching for updated info about it, above all about the possible accommodations. Two years ago I walked on the Portuguese most popular route, and between Lisbon and Porto (so in towns as Santarem, Golega, Tomar, ecc), where any pilgrims albergues still existed, I always slept at "Casa de Misericordia" or bombeiros' places. Do you know if they offer hospitality along the Caminho do Mar, too? Muito obrigado pilgrims!
Casa de Misericordia ... Is there such a way on the Caminho do Mar?
 

barbmrazkova

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Hi, in the next days I would like to walk on this route, and I'm searching for updated info about it, above all about the possible accommodations. Two years ago I walked on the Portuguese most popular route, and between Lisbon and Porto (so in towns as Santarem, Golega, Tomar, ecc), where any pilgrims albergues still existed, I always slept at "Casa de Misericordia" or bombeiros' places. Do you know if they offer hospitality along the Caminho do Mar, too? Muito obrigado pilgrims!
Hi Giu, I am wondering if you ended up doing this walk and if you could give any tips on accomodation? Casa de Misericordia or Bombairos? How does one find/book these? Any tip will be much welcome obrigada x
 

Pelegrin

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2019
I tkink that a Caminho do Mar to Santiago would need now a last name. In this case "de Estoril" to make it different to Camiño do Mar de Arousa and C do M de Ribadeo.
 

futurefjp

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2013
I've just booked a flight to Porto to pick up where I left off in December 2020 ... Figueira da Foz ... From the 7th. It arrives quite late so I wish to head off on the 8th. Has anyone walked south from Porto? I've got until the 18th to return via Porto to Liverpool - got a dog sitting job local from the 22nd so it's only a short Caminho, but by God I truly need it!

Might be able to stretch it to the 21st if PCR tests are cheaper soon!
 
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peregrina2000

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I tkink that a Caminho do Mar to Santiago would need now a last name. In this case "de Estoril" to make it different to Camiño do Mar de Arousa and C do M de Ribadeo.
The naming of camino routes in Portugal is a continual moving target. I remember wondering why the Caminho do Mar from Lisbon even had that name, since it seems to head inland just as the Tejo reaches the coast!

Now we also have Caminho Nascente as the route to Fátima from the east and west, as well as Caminho Nascente from Tavira, where @jungleboy is currently.

Not to mention Interior, Espiritual, Geira e dos Arrieiros, Miñoto Ribeiro, Zamorano de la Plata ...... ay yay yay.
 

futurefjp

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2013
The naming of camino routes in Portugal is a continual moving target. I remember wondering why the Caminho do Mar from Lisbon even had that name, since it seems to head inland just as the Tejo reaches the coast!

Now we also have Caminho Nascente as the route to Fátima from the east and west, as well as Caminho Nascente from Tavira, where @jungleboy is currently.

Not to mention Interior, Espiritual, Geira e dos Arrieiros, Miñoto Ribeiro, Zamorano de la Plata ...... ay yay yay.
I agree, but it's just a way to towards Santiago so I'm not sure the name really makes that much difference: I am on a path which eventually reaches Santiago ... All paths.
 

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