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Camino de Santiago in Catalonia, Spain - Camino del Segre

Walking Nature World

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NOTE FROM MODERATOR: I have been in touch with the authors of this thread, and we decided to merge all of their posts about this Camino, to make it easier for potential walkers to find information. To put it in context, this is a different camino than what we have been referring to as the Cami Catala, but there is apparently interest in promoting it. It looks lovely! Ray and Rosa have some more info on their website as well.
https://www.rayyrosa.com/camino-del-segre/etapas Buen camino, Laurie

Hello, everyone! We are a young couple who dedicates themselve to creating photo and video content, as well as our own music. Our content is related to travelling and adventures. We are passionate walkers who love hiking, trekking and camping. Our goal is to promote the healthy lifestyle, to motivate people to walk more and care for nature around.

In today's video we are sharing with you our first day of Cami de Sant Jaume or Catalan Camino de Santiago. The plan was to do the 80 kms in 4 days and get from Llivia village in the province of Girona to Organya in the province of Lleida. It is also called the Camino del Segre, because it follows the stream of the river all the way through crossing the region of Cerdanya and Alt Urgell. It is just a part of the whole Camino de Santiago that can be taken starting from Pyrenees in Spain and moving towards the city of Pamplona where it joins the French Way.

That day we planned to make around 20 kms starting our way from our hometown Llivia in Spain and to get to the camping site at the village of Isovol. The day started with our alarm not taking off and us sleeping in and starting late. In the middle of the summer the days are long so we werent really worried about not getting to the planned destination. But right from the start the sun was very high in the sky and it was already pretty hot. But we expected the trail to be quite easy as it was all down the river and going through the fields and not so much in the mountains. So we crossed the border from Llivia, Spain to the village of Ur, little piece of French land between the Spanish borders and then back again to the village Puigcerda in Spain. We met the Little Yellow Train on the way - the local touristic train going through the French Pyrenees. We got a bit lost in the village of Puicerda not seeing any yellow signs to guide us but luckily we found an indicator quite fast. The Cami de Ral route took us from Puigcerda to the next village Bolvir without any major challenges. the only thing we didn't like about it that it was an asphalt car road instead of the dirt road but it might be excellent for biking. In Bolvir we got lost in the narrow streets once again and had a hard time founding our way out. The marking was kind of lost there. But thanks to GPS we managed to do it. For that part we were getting away from the river and only then we started to come back to it. At one point, suddenly we realized that there is no tripod hanging on our backpack and we knew that it should had fallen down and we lost it. So we had to go back in circles several times trying to find it in all parts. But probably it had dropped down in the village and somebody just picked it up. So sadly we had to continue on without it. And it helped us a lot in filming us both and doing some different perspective shots. But we made a decision to go on and figure out the ways to film without it. We just never lost anything during our hikes and we were shocked at first. But it's life and it can happen to anybody. The trail as expected was quite easy and relaxing with the good marking overall, except for the villages. We lost a lot of time searching for the tripod and it was getting late. But we still hoped to get in time for the camping to be open and have a good rest there.

Watch the full video here:

Hope you enjoyed our video! Leave us a comment if you have any further questions left or just want to share your experience. We would love to read your feedback - it is very important to us!
 
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I have yet to watch your video, but will do so soon. Your travels are of interest as I am living in Barcelona and have yet to walk the stretch of the Camino where you will be walking. All the best for a terrific Camino!
 
I have yet to watch your video, but will do so soon. Your travels are of interest as I am living in Barcelona and have yet to walk the stretch of the Camino where you will be walking. All the best for a terrific Camino!

Thank you, hope that you will find our video useful and amusing to watch. Let us know what you think of it after. And feel free to ask any questions you may have, we would be glad to help you.
 
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Nice video. I especially like slow pace of editing so I can fully enjoy in the scenery. Beautiful countryside, thank you for bringing it to us.

Ultreia!
 
Hi to you both @Walking Nature World
Lovely to watch your video. Like walking along with you. You’ve certainly captured the nature. It’s so beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Good luck with the rest of it. Shame to lose your tripod on day 1 but I think it will still be good without it.
Buen Camino
Annie
 
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Nice video. I especially like slow pace of editing so I can fully enjoy in the scenery. Beautiful countryside, thank you for bringing it to us.

Ultreia!

Thank you very much for your feedback, glad that you enjoyed it. We do ourselves like the slow paced videos so doing our best with our creations. Hope you will enjoy our next episodes as well!
 
Hi to you both @Walking Nature World
Lovely to watch your video. Like walking along with you. You’ve certainly captured the nature. It’s so beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Good luck with the rest of it. Shame to lose your tripod on day 1 but I think it will still be good without it.
Buen Camino
Annie

Thank you for your kind words, we appreciate a lot your support. Nature is the reason we film, it is our main inspiration. It's ok, we actually managed to live with it, find other creative ways to flim:)
 
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A question : in what month did you make your walk ?

Thank you we are happy that you enjoyed our video. We did it in the middle of July this year and found it too hot and challenging for this part of the world. Sp it is definetely better to do it in the months of April-May or September-October.
 
Thank you we are happy that you enjoyed our video. We did it in the middle of July this year and found it too hot and challenging for this part of the world. Sp it is definetely better to do it in the months of April-May or September-October.


Thanks - and really understand from previous personal experience about the heat of July !
 
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Hello, everyone! We are a young couple who dedicates themselve to creating photo and video content, as well as our own music. Our content is related to travelling and adventures. We are passionate walkers who love hiking, trekking and camping. Our goal is to promote the healthy lifestyle, to motivate people to walk more and care for nature around.

This was our second day of Cami de Sant Jaume or Catalan Camino de Santiago. The plan was to do the 80 kms in 4 days and get from Llivia village in the province of Girona to Organya in the province of Lleida. It is also called the Camino del Segre, because it follows the stream of the river all the way through crossing the region of Cerdanya and Alt Urgell. It is just a part of the whole Camino de Santiago that can be taken starting from Pyrenees in Spain and moving towards the city of Pamplona where it joins the French Way.

Last night it was raining and thunderstorming a lot so we got up a bit late that day. But we were glad that at least it's not raining during the day. We planned to make 20 kms the same distance as yesterday to the next campground near Pont de Bar. Our muscles were quite sore after the first day of the hike so it was more difficult to start moving. We were running out of the food supplies so we had to hurry up to the supermarket to buy fruit and veggies. And it was the only shop we'll meet in the next 2 days so we had to make sure that we have a good reserve. First stretch of the trail was going through the forestand we enjoyed it very much after having so many field road yesterday. We even met a squirrel on the tree that happens very rarely, so it was a great start of the day. The forest paths very very muddy and slippery so we couldn't move very fast. Then we met an obstacle on the way - lots of water flowing on the trail without any rocks or wood to get over it. So we had to gather and throw our own rock way to be able to get to the other side. And we did, just our socks ended up a bit wet but it wasn't too bad. Overall we met lots and lots of water on the trail probably because of the farmer's work. Then we got to the town Bellver de Cerdanya where we bought lots of food for our supplies. After that hiking started to be quite a bit harder with all that extra weight but we just had no other option than to carry it all with us if we wanted to eat the next day. We got the view of Bellver de Cerdanya standing on top of the hill and it looked like an authentic old village. Then we walked quite a while typical dirt road along the fields, enjoying the mountains backgrounds. At one point there was a crossroad where we turned the wrong direction and had to make an extra loop going uphill and then downhill. But there just wasn't any marking saying the right way, in some places it's just not there and it's quite dissapointing. After walking in the fields for some time we got out to the trail along the mountain cliff and the river Segre, it had lots of shade and we had a nice break there. On the info board we learnt that the fauna of this places is very rich due to the forest and river proximity. And the main inhabitant being the otter that unfortunately is nocturnal and almost impossible to meet during the day. We realized that we hardly met any people on the trail the second day around maybe because it was the middle of the week not sure. But as we enjoy solitude and being lonely - it wasn't a problem for us. After the town Martinet where we bought another bottle of water the last 5 to 7 kms were the hardest ones. We felt like giving up any moment because of being so warm and tired from carrying so much weight. But we made it after having to walk along the speed car road for the last 2 kms and got to the campground almost in the complete dark.

Watch the full video here:

Hope you enjoyed our video! Leave us a comment if you have any further questions left or just want to share your experience. We would love to read your feedback - it is very important to us!
 
Hello, everyone! We are a young couple who dedicates themselve to creating photo and video content, as well as our own music. Our content is related to travelling and adventures. We are passionate walkers who love hiking, trekking and camping. Our goal is to promote the healthy lifestyle, to motivate people to walk more and care for nature around.

This was our second day of Cami de Sant Jaume or Catalan Camino de Santiago. The plan was to do the 80 kms in 4 days and get from Llivia village in the province of Girona to Organya in the province of Lleida. It is also called the Camino del Segre, because it follows the stream of the river all the way through crossing the region of Cerdanya and Alt Urgell. It is just a part of the whole Camino de Santiago that can be taken starting from Pyrenees in Spain and moving towards the city of Pamplona where it joins the French Way.

Last night it was raining and thunderstorming a lot so we got up a bit late that day. But we were glad that at least it's not raining during the day. We planned to make 20 kms the same distance as yesterday to the next campground near Pont de Bar. Our muscles were quite sore after the first day of the hike so it was more difficult to start moving. We were running out of the food supplies so we had to hurry up to the supermarket to buy fruit and veggies. And it was the only shop we'll meet in the next 2 days so we had to make sure that we have a good reserve. First stretch of the trail was going through the forestand we enjoyed it very much after having so many field road yesterday. We even met a squirrel on the tree that happens very rarely, so it was a great start of the day. The forest paths very very muddy and slippery so we couldn't move very fast. Then we met an obstacle on the way - lots of water flowing on the trail without any rocks or wood to get over it. So we had to gather and throw our own rock way to be able to get to the other side. And we did, just our socks ended up a bit wet but it wasn't too bad. Overall we met lots and lots of water on the trail probably because of the farmer's work. Then we got to the town Bellver de Cerdanya where we bought lots of food for our supplies. After that hiking started to be quite a bit harder with all that extra weight but we just had no other option than to carry it all with us if we wanted to eat the next day. We got the view of Bellver de Cerdanya standing on top of the hill and it looked like an authentic old village. Then we walked quite a while typical dirt road along the fields, enjoying the mountains backgrounds. At one point there was a crossroad where we turned the wrong direction and had to make an extra loop going uphill and then downhill. But there just wasn't any marking saying the right way, in some places it's just not there and it's quite dissapointing. After walking in the fields for some time we got out to the trail along the mountain cliff and the river Segre, it had lots of shade and we had a nice break there. On the info board we learnt that the fauna of this places is very rich due to the forest and river proximity. And the main inhabitant being the otter that unfortunately is nocturnal and almost impossible to meet during the day. We realized that we hardly met any people on the trail the second day around maybe because it was the middle of the week not sure. But as we enjoy solitude and being lonely - it wasn't a problem for us. After the town Martinet where we bought another bottle of water the last 5 to 7 kms were the hardest ones. We felt like giving up any moment because of being so warm and tired from carrying so much weight. But we made it after having to walk along the speed car road for the last 2 kms and got to the campground almost in the complete dark.

Watch the full video here:

Hope you enjoyed our video! Leave us a comment if you have any further questions left or just want to share your experience. We would love to read your feedback - it is very important to us!
Hi, great video you produced! Really enjoyed the flowers and little birds and animals. Stay strong, Buen Camino!👣👣👣
 
Hi, great video you produced! Really enjoyed the flowers and little birds and animals. Stay strong, Buen Camino!👣👣👣

Thank you, we appreciate your kind words. We really put out heart and soul in every video and it means a world to us if you enjoy it.:)
 
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Your video is really well done and looked like a beautiful walk as you captured some very inviting moments. Also, I enjoyed your soft music choices as they were relaxing.

Thank you so much for your kind feedback. We are happy that you enjoy watching our videos. Glad that you like the music too, it is our own creation inspired by the places we were hiking through:)
 
This was our third day of Cami de Sant Jaume or Catalan Camino de Santiago. The plan was to do the 80 kms in 4 days and get from Llivia village in the province of Girona to Organya in the province of Lleida. It is also called the Camino del Segre, because it follows the stream of the river all the way through crossing the region of Cerdanya and Alt Urgell. It is just a part of the whole Camino de Santiago that can be taken starting from Pyrenees in Spain and moving towards the city of Pamplona where it joins the French Way.

We had a very good night at the camping Pont d'Ardaix, it was thunderstorming a bit in the evening again but then it was all calm and quiet. For the day 3 we planned to do the same distance again as all the previous days - around 20 kms. And our final point was the town of Seu d'Urgell in the province of Lleida. We did realize that the trail probably would be quite challenging and hard because of the mountains around us and the extreme July heat that was staying with us everyday. So we wanted to get ready as quickly as possible and to conquer the main mountain of the day before the midday heat comes. At first the marking of the way was quite good and we barely had to use our GPS. We were running out of food having only some fruit and chocolate left so we were a bit worried whether we have enough supplies for the day, cause we knew that till the end of the day we won't meet any shop. First several kms tha trail was easy and almost flat going through the forest and little village Pont de Bar Vell. In this village we met the cutest animal ever - little baby donkey pasturing with his parents. So we were lucky to spend some time with them. We got to enjoy the great views of the mountain summit and gorge on the way. Then we had to walk for about 1.5 kms on the car road having no signs of the way whatsoever. Only GPS and downloaded trail on Wikiloc helped us to find the right direction. It's just the reality of this trail that sometimes you don't see any marking and suddenly in the middle of nowhere you find the sign again. When we got to the village Arseguel we lost our track once again, having hard time wandering through the narrow streets of the old town. Then the way was going through the forest for some time and it was the best part of the day for sure. Lots of shadow, singing birds and very quiet - everything you need on a hot day. We had our snack at the riverside and continued to go up. The way down from this mountain was much harder than we thought, there were lots of falling little rocks down the paths and they made it very challenging to keep a good balance. When the steepest part was done it felt like a great relief to be able to walk on a flat ground. The rest of the way was mostly flat and easy (quite boring though) going through the farmer's houses and fields. Just the hot sun was striking our heads and in the end we felt pretty exhausted. But the reward was getting to the big supermarket and buying loads of food(way more than we actually needed). And with all the strength we have left we finally got to our campground.

Watch the full video here:

Hope you enjoyed our video! Leave us a comment if you have any further questions left or just want to share your experience. We would love to read your feedback - it is very important to us!
 
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I loved my short Cami Sant Jaume last fall. 50 miles from Vilabertran to the Guilleries. Some hot, some cool, some dark-morning walking, some sardana, some pastisseries de pomes... Moltà contenta!
 
I loved my short Cami Sant Jaume last fall. 50 miles from Vilabertran to the Guilleries. Some hot, some cool, some dark-morning walking, some sardana, some pastisseries de pomes... Moltà contenta!

We haven't done this part but can believe it's absolutely lovely, thank you for stopping by and commenting.
 
Hello, everyone! We are a young couple who dedicates themselve to creating photo and video content, as well as our own music. Our content is related to travelling and adventures. We are passionate walkers who love hiking, trekking and camping. Our goal is to promote the healthy lifestyle, to motivate people to walk more and care for nature around.

On our fourth and final day of Cami de Sant Jaume in Catalonia we were quite tired already after previous extremely hot days but we had a quiet night in the camping Gran Sol in Seu d'Urgell and were ready to do the final stretch of this hike today. After having bought so many food yesterday(cause we were very hungry) we had to carry with us more extra weight and we were really worried whether we would be able to complete this 20+ kms stretch ot not. But we hoped that the weather and the trail would work in our favor. We needed to get to the town Organya where according to the map this part of Camino was finishing. So we started walking and passed by the village Arfa, went along the car road and got to the town El Pla de Sant Tirs where we lost out track again and had a hard time finding the mark. It seemed like we were getting lost in every village or town as the marking just dissapears there. Finally we found the sign after walking blindly on the dirt road for some time but then on a crossroad there was no mark again. So we had to look it up in GPS and using our downloaded map from Wikiloc we were able to find the right direction. Every day the trail would start quite easy, going flat and then gradually becoming harder and harder and that day wasn't an exception. The ground under our feet started to turn red rusty colours and we started to climb up the mountain hoping that it will lead us to the right way. We were wandering around this mountain for quite a while cause there were so many crossroads and no signs whatsoever. But in the end we got out on the car road and saw a big blue sign of Camino with the map. And there we were very surprised to see that the marked trail till Organya was turning into dotted line at one point and it was saying that the trail is in the process of conditioning. From this information we could understand that probably the last 5 kms till Organya we had to walk on the highways with non-adapted trail for the hikers. It was a very sad fact but we had to continue on and see it with our own eyes. Next part of the trail was very easy and flat passing along the fields and the river Segre. There was a pond on the way which was impossible to get over without wetting our boots. Then the mountain cliffs were coming closer to each other and the trail became more steep and soon we started to go at the edge of the cliff. It was the most picturesque part of this day and probably of the entire trip. Tha path was twisting along the edge giving us wonderful views of the mountains relief and down at the rapid waters of the river Segre. We met the group of the rock climbers there doing their training and it was scary and beautiful at the same time. After this short 2 to 3 kms stretch we were out on the car road and it was sure now that in order to get into town we had to walk this 5 kms on it. It was very strange and unfair that the way was ending there in the middle of nowhere and you had no other choice but to continue on walking on this non-adapted dangerous highway. We were scared to hell to walk on it using our mobile flashlight so that the cars that were coming in front could see us and hopefully drop down the speed. And it was absolutely impossible to hitchhike there cause the cars were moving way too fast and there was a little to no space to stay at the side of the road. So it is super dangerous and not recommended to do under any conditions. At the end of this stretch we were completely exhausted physically and mentally and just couldn't make up our minds of why they decided to end the trail there and there was no information about it before. As we had our plan to get to Organya and it was completely unexpected. So from our last powers we did our shopping in the supermarket and went to bed right away when we got to the camping.

The next day we had our bus back home in the evening but we decided to take advantage of the daytime left and explore the surrounding area. It was too hot to hike many kms so we decided to go see a waterfall that was the closest to the town and it turned out to be a very beautiful place.

So overall our impressions of the whole hike were kind of mixed. On one hand we enjoyed the different landscapes throughout the hike, beautiful forest areas, mountains in the background and especially the last part walking along the cliff. But on the other hand we were quite dissapointed sometimes to see no marking of the way on the crossroads and in the villages. So without GPS and having a proper map we wouldn't recommend doing this hike. Another dissapointment was that often we had to walk on the big car roads and there was no other alternative to opt for. The month of July when we chose to do this hike is very hot in these places and if we were to do it again we would definetely go in spring or autumn(May or October). Another difficulty we experienced was not having enough places to buy food, so we had to carry lots of reserve food with us for 2 days and it made our hike more challenging. And as we chose to stay in the campings often we had to do some extra kms in order to get there instead os staying on the way but if you choose to stay in the guest houses then it wouldn't be a problem for you. Nevertheless we are glad that we did this hike that was on our hiking list for a long time and got to know the different region of Spain.

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Hope you enjoyed our video! Leave us a comment if you have any further questions left or just want to share your experience. We would love to read your feedback - it is very important to us!
 
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Well done, its a totally different experience when you camp and live on the path and takes strength and courage to see it through. I understand totally how you felt, the lack of signing can become a problem when you realise you've just walked the wrong way for an hour and keeps happening several times a day. But it gets easier with practice. Running out of food is a regular occurrence when you have to carry everything and suffering higher prices from the small village shops. That is if there are any shops. I usually buy eggs from the local people and most small villages have a bread van that comes through at some point in the morning. Knowing some spanish makes everything much easier and I regularly just ask directions rather than walk in circles. The farmers know their land and often direct me along quiet paths. Another thing I tend to do to avoid camping in the rain is to sleep under church roofs or in the tiny hermitas dotted around the mountains. Many times when I'm sleeping at a church the locals come and bring me food and drink and then start happily arguing about the best grazing spot for my donkeys. I always have a positive and deep connection to the world and the people I meet when walking along trails that are not used much. I really hope you enjoyed your adventure, remember that the harder it is, the bigger the reward.
Peace
 
Another suggestion is to try out locus maps app. You can download for free all of Spain's individual ign maps, they show even the smallest paths and this has helped me out a lot when navigating through mountains.
 
Well done, its a totally different experience when you camp and live on the path and takes strength and courage to see it through. I understand totally how you felt, the lack of signing can become a problem when you realise you've just walked the wrong way for an hour and keeps happening several times a day. But it gets easier with practice. Running out of food is a regular occurrence when you have to carry everything and suffering higher prices from the small village shops. That is if there are any shops. I usually buy eggs from the local people and most small villages have a bread van that comes through at some point in the morning. Knowing some spanish makes everything much easier and I regularly just ask directions rather than walk in circles. The farmers know their land and often direct me along quiet paths. Another thing I tend to do to avoid camping in the rain is to sleep under church roofs or in the tiny hermitas dotted around the mountains. Many times when I'm sleeping at a church the locals come and bring me food and drink and then start happily arguing about the best grazing spot for my donkeys. I always have a positive and deep connection to the world and the people I meet when walking along trails that are not used much. I really hope you enjoyed your adventure, remember that the harder it is, the bigger the reward.
Peace
Another suggestion is to try out locus maps app. You can download for free all of Spain's individual ign maps, they show even the smallest paths and this has helped me out a lot when navigating through mountains.

Thank you for your feedback, we really appreciate it. For us it is an indispensable part of hiking - sleeping in our tent, we just love it so much even though it can be difficult at times. We've been using the app called Maps.me and found it to be the most detailed in relation to the trails and little paths. But thank you very much for your suggestion because we are always searching for the most accurate maps, we will try it out on our next trail. Yes, lack of food anf high prices are not a rare occasion unfortunately. We didn't try to buy anything from farmers but have thought about it in the most difficult moments, now we will be more determined. That is so cool that you're hiking with the donkey, would love to hear your experience cause we just in love with the donkeys. We met a lot of them last year on the Northern Way and since then they're our best friends. It just seems quite hard and requires a lot of responsibility hiking with them. We will appreciate if you can contact us on Facebook or leave us a DM cause we are really interested in this topic.
 
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I only use it for photos and the messenger. I've put quite a few photos on there and some recently.

I love sleeping in the tent, but I got a hammock with a mosquito net last summer and started using it quite a lot, especially as I could now camp in places where I wouldn't put a tent. The mountains are great fun but finding a flat spot with no rocks or sharp plants in the dark usually is impossible. I still use my tent more but the hammock means I have many more options with only a kilo more weight. Even with my donkey, I still keep a close eye on the weight being carried. As for the difficulty, you will be surprised but I'll talk about that with you privately, don't want everybody knowing how easy it really is. Like the time I got very drunk because the barman wouldn't stop giving me free shots of something that made it very hard to walk, and my wonderful donkey guided me and the dogs 2 kilometers in the dark down some dirt track to a quiet spot where I passed out.
 
Thank you for your detailed report, WNW. It's a good thing you are young! I sympathize with the struggles you had, but hey, you made it! This is one pilgrimage that will not be on my bucket list as a female retiree!
 
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Thank you for your detailed report, WNW. It's a good thing you are young! I sympathize with the struggles you had, but hey, you made it! This is one pilgrimage that will not be on my bucket list as a female retiree!

Thank you for taking your time to comment and the support. We actually enjoy planning our routes and trails but when it is supposed to be marked we feel that it is wrong. Yes, it is probably not the best right now but who knows maybe in the future they will make improvements to the trail.
 
That's cool with me, I'm not very good with Facebook and social media so send me a private message with a link to your Facebook so I can add you. Or my email is thenomadicpack@gmail.com
I only use it for photos and the messenger. I've put quite a few photos on there and some recently.

I love sleeping in the tent, but I got a hammock with a mosquito net last summer and started using it quite a lot, especially as I could now camp in places where I wouldn't put a tent. The mountains are great fun but finding a flat spot with no rocks or sharp plants in the dark usually is impossible. I still use my tent more but the hammock means I have many more options with only a kilo more weight. Even with my donkey, I still keep a close eye on the weight being carried. As for the difficulty, you will be surprised but I'll talk about that with you privately, don't want everybody knowing how easy it really is. Like the time I got very drunk because the barman wouldn't stop giving me free shots of something that made it very hard to walk, and my wonderful donkey guided me and the dogs 2 kilometers in the dark down some dirt track to a quiet spot where I passed out.

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Haven't tried to sleep in the hammock but that may be an interesting experience. Totally agree about how difficult it could be to find a good place to camp. Sometimes you stucked around lots of private houses and farmlands and sometimes you're in the quiet mountains forest but the ground is very uneven. That should be very exciting to hike with the donkey, can't wait to hear more form you.
 
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