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Camino First Aid - Free from APOC

Discussion in 'Medical issues on the pilgrimage' started by sillydoll, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. sillydoll

    sillydoll Veteran Member

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    iPhone/Smartphone version of Camino First Aid 2014

    Tom and Emmeline Hill are members of the Old Pueblo Chapter. They have written a book titled "Camino First Aid 2014" and have made it available free of charge to any and all Pilgrims. It contains valuable information on Camino First Aid for all.

    The pdf file is too large to be attached. Please contact APOC for a copy.
    oldpueblochapter@americanpilgrims.com
     
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    Stefania13/14 Active Member

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    How kind! Thank you in advance. I will be on my 1st camino in May so I am sure it will come in handy.
    Stefania
     
  3. Olivia Luna

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    Just received our copy and it is absolutely excellent!! Saved to my smart phone for quick reference and my tablet for reading. A million thanks! ¡Un millón de gracias! ;-)
     
  4. amourier

    amourier Caminophile

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    Hi everyone, Our Chapter email has been inundated with requests for the pdf version of Tom and Em's "Camino First Aid 2014". There have been so many requested that I have created a link for anyone interested to be able to copy/download the file.
    https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/84665557/Camino First Aid 2014 iPhone.pdf

    Thanks for your interest in the publication.

    Arlene
     
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    RDLtrekker New Member

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    This is an amazing resource and I will definitely be loading it on my phone. I have already read it cover to cover and will do so again just before leaving to refresh my memory. Thank you sooooo much for the generosity of time and knowledge you have put into this document - greatly appreciated. I would recommend that EVERYONE have this on hand for their Camino... I'm sure I will be consulting it if not for myself, than perhaps to help other. :)
     
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    Having just been bitten by a dog on the Camino Portugeuse I can't say how important it is to carry a small first aid kit particularly with some disinfectant
     
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    hampshire!tim Active Member Donating Member

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    Having only skimmed this PDF, yes it's very good.
    I particularly like the advice about planning on time walked, not distance walked. That principle would shorten many discussions here !!
     
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    Without knowing of your link I did exactly the same. It is shared from my dropbox account and I put the link on my camino blog. This is such a blessing! Thank you to Tom and Em.

    By the way, I love this quote from the book:

    "But you’re a pilgrim, darn it. And pilgrims walk. Frankly, we’re used to our homeless patients being noncompliant. We tell them to take it easy and we know that about 30% will ingore that advice completely. What about the pilgrims we met and treated along the Camino? How compliant were they? Let’s just say they make homeless patients look like models of medical behavior."
     
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    Can you load this very good resource onto the Downloads portion of the site? It may save the Old Pueblo Chapter's gracious contributors alot of heartache.

    Rambler
     
  10. amourier

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    I have removed my original post of May, 2014 as neither American Pilgrims on the Camino nor any chapters, including the Old Pueblo (Tucson) chapter endorse the contents of the book "Camino First Aid 2014". The pdf copy of the book is also no longer available at the link provided.
     
  11. Prentiss Riddle

    Prentiss Riddle Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada Donating Member

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    I see the 2014 edition online here:

    http://www.americanpilgrims.com/about/local_chapter_documents/Camino_first_aid_Hill.pdf

    Google tells me that there are more recent editions but the authors' website seems to be having trouble. Does anybody know where to find the definitive latest version?
     
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    amourier Caminophile

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    Hello Sillydoll,

    I am no longer affiliated with the Old Pueblo Chapter of APOC, but will say that APOC no longer approves or sanctions the Camino First Aid book. This change took place while I was still the Coordinator for the group during the beginning of 2016.

    Sorry I cannot suggest a way for you to obtain a later version should there be one.

    Arlèna
     
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    Prentiss Riddle Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada Donating Member

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    Uh-oh - is there a problem with the book we should be aware of?
     
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    amourier Caminophile

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    I am unsure. All I can say is APOC no longer approves or sanctions the Camino First Aid book written by Tom and Emmeline Hill.
     
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    Prentiss Riddle Aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada Donating Member

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    Thanks for the quick reply. It sure would be nice to know whether this is just a formal CYA on APOC's part, or indicates a serious problem. I just posted about this guide in a couple of places and would like to go take back my posts if there's something specific to be worried about!
     
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    I have also removed the pdf from my blog, although I still have it and find it a useful resource. The original came with very emphatic disclaimers to "talk to your doctor" before, during and after your camino about any personal health problems. The book can't replace your doctor.

    Perhaps one day there will be an updated version of it.
     
  17. SYates

    SYates Camino Fossil AD 1999 Donating Member

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    One problem I see with this book is that it actively encourages pilgrims to treat other pilgrims based on the information in this book. Which could lead to all kinds of legal problems ...
    Buen Camino, SY

    Edited to add:

    Also found at least one serious mistake in the book. Under heatstroke it states "Do NOT give fluids!" Which only applies if the person is unconscious, but of course you should give a conscious victim of heatstroke fluids - in small sips.
     
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