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Camino Lebaniego

Discussion in 'Camino Vadiniense' started by pilgrim 313, Jul 10, 2017.

  1. pilgrim 313

    pilgrim 313 New Member

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    Just wonder if anyone has done the Camino Lebaniego in recent times. I finished the Camino Frances last year and had no major plans to walk again this year. However just heard about this way recently. It sounds great. From the sea to the mountains in a few days. 2017 is a special year also as it is a Jubilee Year at the monastery of Santo Toribo de Liébana. Thinking of doing it maybe this Sept.
    Would really love to hear from anyone who has done it recently. Also wondering if anyone planning on doing it. My main concern is that it may be very quiet/ lonely camino! Would love to hear if there is much life on the way.
     
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    313: depends what you mean by recent. You'll see there are lots of posts/info from people walking the Lebaniego in 2016 and I reckon most of this is good for this year as well.
     
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    Hello,

    I walked the Camino Lebaniego in May 2014 starting in San Vicente de la Barquera to Potes and then I continued on the Ruta Vadiniense from Potes to Mansilla de las Mulas. It is a gorgeous Camino but most of the time I was the only pilgrim, I had most of the albergues to myself and only saw 2 or 3 other pilgrims in the 9 days. The scenery is beautiful and there are great albergues and pensions along the way.

    I would definitely recommend this route.

    Paul.
     
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    Thank you for your reply. I had a look at video. It's looks fab!!
     
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    Hi Tom. I have had a look at the info on the forum. Lots of good info. I gather it is a very quiet camino. I am just curious about this year if there are more pilgrims due to Jubilee at monastery in Santo Toribo. I guess there maybe a few more Spanish pilgrims. Thank you for yor reply.

     
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    Thank you Bob!!
     
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    Hi Paul,
    Only read about this route in the past week and it really grabbed me. It looks fab. The accounts of those who completed it all recommend it. I am a bit of a lightweight and due to time constraints I won't be walking on from Potes! I will probably walk from Comillas to Santo Toribo/Potes. The Vadiniense sounds fab too.
    Thanks for your reply.
     
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    Don't know if this will cheer you up, but in the previous Holy Year 2006-2007, 1.3 million 'pilgrims' visited Liébana.
    This Holy Year, the expectations and activities are more modest, but it may be crowded around the monastery.
    Mind you, these visitors are not pilgrims walking the Camino!
    Would be nice if someone who is on the Lebaniego now could tell what it is like.

    http://www.eldiariomontanes.es/cant...na-prepara-para-superar-20161016000312-v.html
     
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    Hi - We talked to someone in May who was going to do it, and to another friend on the Norte who bused part of it, then back up to the Norte. We saw him a few days later and he loved it. We're thinking about it too for another time.
     
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    Cherrys, yes I haven't seen any negative reviews from anyone who has completed it!
     
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    Hello Pilgrim 313 (Love the name)
    I walked this route, from San Vicente de la Barquera to Santo Toribio, in May of this year and absolutely loved it. I count it as one of my best Camino experiences, and I've walked several now. I walked with 3 other pilgrims who I met on the Norte (at various places before and we coincidentally ended up in San Vicente at the same time) and this certainly contributed to the good experience...being able to share it with others.
    But the route itself is stunning, and very different from day-to-day (coastal starting-point, river-side, forests, mountains, ancient pueblos and churches) culminating in the beautiful monastery and valley at the end. We were also very lucky with the weather; sunshine and high temperatures every day.
    We met some some other pilgrims while walking (a large group from Argentina, a small group of young Spanish students and a few Spanish peregrino couples), which meant sleeping on the floor at the albergue in Cades (because all the beds were taken when we got there) but we had the albergues in Cicera and Santo Toribio to ourselves. So, as with all Caminos, I think it's just the luck of the draw.
    The monastery itself was busy with coach groups but if you stay in the albergue there (within sight & walking distance - fabulous location) you can go back to the monastery after the groups have left, as we did and when it was beautifully peaceful.

    Because my original plan was to walk the Norte (and the Lebaniego was an unplanned detour) I caught the bus back to San Vicente after reaching Santo Toribio, but the experience and the walk left such an impression on me that in future I would like to go back to Potes and continue the Camino Vadiniense down to the Camino Francés.

    Hope this helps you to decide and Buen Camino whatever you choose to do.
    :)
     
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    Hi SafariGirl
    You paint a really wonderful picture! It's giving me more encouragement to 'just do it'. I guess May is a similar month to Sept so I imagine there will be a few pilgrims on the way. In any case it's only for a few days so it not like walking entire Camino Frances on my own!!
    Thank you for taking time to reply
    Pilgrim313!
     
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    You're very welcome Pilgrim 313. If you also do the route from Potes to León (or vice versa) we may even meet each other! That probably sounds like an incredible and unlikely coincidence, but part of my memorable Camino Lebaniego was the incredible coincidences I experienced along the way...but that's another story...
    Buen Camino. I'm sure it will be a memorable experience for you, whatever it involves :)
     
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    SYates Camino Fossil AD 1999 Donating Member

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    Hi SafariGirl
    The draft plan at the moment is to walk from Comillas to Potes - to get a little of the coast and the mountains. So maybe if you are in Potes mid Sept we might bump into each other!! This trip I won't get any further than Potes but again from what I've read it sounds fabulous. Re coincidences the Camino is like that! We can't really plan the Camino, it just happens! 'The Camino is a gift' -a quote I read somewhere. So true. Lebamiego sounds like a great one!!
     
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    Ha! It's a long story ..but it amazed me :).
    I had no plans to walk the Lebaniego (didn't even know about it) but on the first day of my Norte in Paisajes I met a German woman who told me about it and asked if I was interested. My answer was "Sounds interesting but no, I'm here to walk the Norte". We met on and off for about 10 days, exchanged mobile numbers, then she walked ahead of me.
    In Santillana del Mar a Spanish 'bicigrino' asked if he could sit with me in a café and we had a similar conversation, then he cycled off.
    Just before Requejada I remembered how a peregrino I met on the Camino Francés in 2015 had asked me to make a detour with him to visit a an 'apparition' site (Garabandal), and how I regretted not going because I now understood that it had been important to him...
    At the albergue in Requejada that night I met a Spanish peregrino (who I'd first met on the Francés in 2015, complete coincidence) and I learned this time that he was a writer who had written a book about 'the magic' and history of the Camino, something I didn't know before. We met again at Comillas...and he told me about the Lebaniego, the history of it, and asked if I was interested in making the detour with him...
    Now I'm a great believer in 'Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is "a call to action"' so I said "Yes" and, remembering my German friend, I messaged her to ask what the Lebaniego had been like (because I knew she was well ahead of me) she replied saying that injury had forced her to rest and she was in San Vicente, planning to start the Lebaniego the following day :). We agreed to meet up and all go together.
    It was a truly beautiful walk and, when we arrived at the monastery, we attended a very moving mass. The Spanish writer/peregrino became quite emotional and thanked me and my German friend for walking with him, because it had been important to him not to make the Camino alone. At that moment a woman approached me and asked if I was a peregrina, when I said 'Yes' she gave me a prayer card for an apparition site...Garabandal...and said it might interest me.
    Amazed, I left the church and was approached my a Spanish bicigrino who asked if the mass was over...the same bicigrino who drank coffee with me in Santillana. He'd decided to make a detour from his detour, which brought him to Santo Toribio on the same day as us...
    The Camino is magic...and no-one will ever convince me otherwise...which is why I keep going back to it. For me, it's home :).
     
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    It truly is...'los regalos del Camino' :)
     
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    In 2014 I saw a fresco-style painting in a bar in Redecilla stating "Olvidate del pasado y haz del Camino tu vida" = "Forget the past and make the camino your life ... I did ...

    Buen Camino, SY
     
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    ...then I'm following in good footsteps :)
    Buen Camino a ti también S Yates
     
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    I'am not perfect, but I'm always myself!!!
    Exactly same feelings here!!!

    Have a nice day!
     
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    You too KinkyOne :)
     
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    Hi we are walking the CF in October and my husband and I would like to take a detour to Santo toribio but not sure about the best way to get there from the CF, any advise?
     
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    Perhaps the posts in this earlier forum thread will help. Via Mansilla de las Mulas might be one way to proceed.

    https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/camino-lebaniego.49275/

    Happy planning and Buen camino!
     
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    Thanks for your reply will look into it
     
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    Are you intending to walk or take public transportation? Buses to Potes in the off-season are minimal, so it might be complicated.
     
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    The link below could also help alba.
    The route from close to Leon (on the Camino Frances) to Santo Toribio (and vice versa) is called the Camino Vadeniese.
    I walked from San Vicente de la Barquera (on the Norte) to Santo Toribio in May and it was beautiful (the Camino Lebaniego).
    I'll also be looking at doing the Vadeniese later this year.
    Happy planning & Buen Camino :)

    https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/forums/camino-vadiniense.100/
     
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    For lack of time we would like to take public transportation and then come back to CF, we are not sure if possible though
     
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    Try www.Rome2Rio.com for possible transport combos/costs. For example from Leon to the monastery Santo Toribio you might travel by train + taxi.
     
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    FWIW - there's also a pretty obscure camino called the Ruta del Besaya which runs from Santander to Carrion de los Condes on the Camino Frances (it must be obscure as it didn't come up in a search of this site!). The Ray y Rosa website has details of possible stages here . One day some adventurous soul (Laurie? Caminka?) will chart it for us. Then it might be feasible to go backwards from Carrion to Reinosa or Barcena and then cross over to Potes and Santo Toribio - and then return to the CF via the Vadiniense. Hills will be involved....
    RyR says that the Cantabrian authorities have taken an interest in this camino, so expect to hear more about it in the future.
    PS It first saw it on the Feve tiled map that is outside most of its stations. Photo attached.
    Cheers, tom
    P1060339.jpg
     
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    A click on Ray and Rosa's website came up with the alternative name, Ruta del Romanico, so that hooked me immediately. :) I have been in Aguilar de Campoo, which is a stop on the Camino Olvidado, but the rest is new territory. Looks like a very do-able one week walk, which is always good to have on the list! Thanks, Tom, but I am pretty close to camino-wish-list-overload I think. I need to figure out a way to extend my shelf life.
     
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    I'am not perfect, but I'm always myself!!!
    First time I saw info on Ruta del Besaya was a large reprint of an old map in Avila albergue in 2015. After return I bookmarked few links:
    http://www.xacobeo.fr/ZE3.03.Besaya.htm
    http://www.wikiwand.com/es/Camino_de_Santiago_del_Norte:_Ruta_del_Besaya
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    http://caminosperegrinacion-mp.blogspot.es/tags/mapas/
    http://www.elalberguedeherrera.com/portfolio-item/camino-de-santiago/

    Two more routes that connect Norte with Frances:
    1.) Camino del Valle de Mena (Bilbao - Burgos)
    http://centrodedescargas.cnig.es/Ce...o;jsessionid=876C578306462BEAAB3125BD4C8BC8EA
    2.) Camino Lebaniego Castellano (Palencia - Santo Toribio de Liebana, but I guess it can be also walked North to South)
    https://www.diputaciondepalencia.es/sitio/turismo/camino-lebaniego-castellano

    So, Laurie, you should definitely extend your life :D
     
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    According to Ray and Rosa, it's 222 km. If you click on the link Tom gives, you'll see 8 possible stages.
     

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