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Camino Madrid - Suggestions for 15 to 20kmax stages

gerardcarey

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CFx2, CPx1
I've got up to three weeks to complete the Camino Madrid, I'm thinking autumn 2020, but must keep below a 20k daily max.
Your suggestions would be much appreciated, as would any thoughts on albergues.
I've started ploughing thru the posts!

Regards and Merry Christmas!
Gerard
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2015, 2017, 2019) and plans for 2021 (Sept, Oct)
Gerard, my wife and I have walked CF three times (all 800 kms). We considered walking the Camino Madrid, but decided to walk CF again next year. After using the Gronze.com website, it seemed like some of the stages were quite long. Like you, we prefer hiking 20 kms per day, but some of the suggested stages were over 30 kms. The other issue I discovered on Gronze is that there is not a lot of infrastructure established on CM, particularly to stay in private rooms. Maybe this will improve and we will reconsider in the future. Bob
 

peregrina2000

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Staff member
My gut told me that it would be easy to plan for short stages on the Madrid. But since my gut was wrong yesterday when I ventured the opinion that short stages on the Mozárabe would be problematic (turns out it’s EASY between Almería and Granada), I thought I should do some actual tabulation. So...

Starting with my stages from years ago, https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/my-leisurely-stages-on-the-camino-de-madrid.11148/ I came up with one option. I just used gronze with my stages as a base, but doing that showed me that there are many other ways to do this, because the accommodations on the Madrid (assuming you can splurge on private places) are quite plentiful. To start with, the albergue infrastructure is excellent, and when you factor in towns with hotels/pensiones, your options increase a lot!

Day 1 — From Church of Santiago to Fuencarral (the town, not the street). That would be about 20 and there are places to stay there, none cheap. OR you can hop on Cercanías train for a few minutes back to Madrid and then come back out the next day.

Day 2 — Fuencarral to Tres Cantos (13)

Day 3 — Tres Cantos to Colmenar (10)

Day 4 — Colmenar to Manzanares (15)

Day 5 — Manzanares to Cercedilla (20) — can also be split with a stop in Mataelpino, where there is an albergue

Day 6 — Cercedilla to La Granja (21)

Day 7 — La Granja to Segovia (8)

Day 8 — Segovia to Añe (20 km) (also easy to shorten with a stop in Los Huertos)

Day 9 — Añe to Santa María la Real (12)

Day 10 — Santa María to Nava de la Asunción (13).

Day 11 — Nava to Villeguillo (17)

Day 12 — Villeguilo to Alcazarén (17)

Day 13 — Alcazarén to Valdestillas (16)

Day 14 — Valdestillas to Simancas (15). (Here I would also recommend a detour into Valladolid if you like medium sized Spanish cities. This is a very nice one, with a beautiful barroque monastery turned into the Spanish religious sculpture museum). Buses to and from both Puente Duero and Simancas are frequent).

Day 15 — Simancas to Peñaflor (21)

Day 16 — Peñaflor to Castromonte (9) (five star albergue, as are many of them on the Madrid!)

Day 17 — Castromonte to Medina de Rioseco (15)

Day 18 — Medina to Tamariz de Campos (12)

Day 19 — Tamariz to Villalón (14)

Day 20 — Villalón to Santervás (16)

Day 21 — Santervás to Sahagún (19)
 
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CF 2006,08,09,11,12(2),13(2),14,16(2),18(2) Aragones 11,12,VDLP 11,13,Lourdes 12,Malaga 16,Port 06
My gut told me that it would be easy to plan for short stages on the Madrid. But since my gut was wrong yesterday when I ventured the opinion that short stages on the Mozárabe would be problematic (turns out it’s EASY between Almería and Granada), I thought I should do some actual tabulation. So...

Starting with my stages from years ago, https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/my-leisurely-stages-on-the-camino-de-madrid.11148/ I came up with one option. I just used gronze with my stages as a base, but doing that showed me that there are many other ways to do this, because the accommodations on the Madrid (assuming you can splurge on private places) are quite plentiful. To start with, the albergue infrastructure is excellent, and when you factor in towns with hotels/pensiones, your options increase a lot!

Day 1 — From Church of Santiago to Fuencarral (the town, not the street). That would be about 20 and there are places to stay there, none cheap. OR you can hop on Cercanías train for a few minutes back to Madrid and then come back out the next day.

Day 2 — Fuencarral to Tres Cantos (13)

Day 3 — Tres Cantos to Colmenar (10)

Day 4 — Colmenar to Manzanares (15)

Day 5 — Manzanares to Cercedilla (20) — can also be split with a stop in Mataelpino, where there is an albergue

Day 6 — Cercedilla to La Granja (21)

Day 7 — La Granja to Segovia (8)

Day 8 — Segovia to Añe (20 km) (also easy to shorten with a stop in Los Huertos)

Day 9 — Añe to Santa María la Real (12)

Day 10 — Santa María to Nava de la Asunción (13).

Day 11 — Nava to Villeguillo (17)

Day 12 — Villeguilo to Alcazarén (17)

Day 13 — Alcazarén to Valdestillas (16)

Day 14 — Valdestillas to Simancas (15). (Here I would also recommend a detour into Valladolid if you like medium sized Spanish cities. This is a very nice one, with a beautiful barroque monastery turned into the Spanish religious sculpture museum). Buses to and from both Puente Duero and Simancas are frequent).

Day 15 — Simancas to Peñaflor (21)

Day 16 — Peñaflor to Castromonte (9) (five star albergue, as are many of them on the Madrid!)

Day 17 — Castromonte to Medina de Rioseco (15)

Day 18 — Medina to Tamariz de Campos (12)

Day 19 — Tamariz to Villalón (14)

Day 20 — Villalón to Santervás (16)

Day 21 — Santervás to Sahagún (19)
This is real close to the stages I've walked a couple of times on the Madrid.
 

Theatregal

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
So far...
2012 ~ 2019
My gut told me that it would be easy to plan for short stages on the Madrid. But since my gut was wrong yesterday when I ventured the opinion that short stages on the Mozárabe would be problematic (turns out it’s EASY between Almería and Granada), I thought I should do some actual tabulation. So...
Thank you so much for this list @peregrina2000 ! Just yesterday I started to plot possible 20km max stages on the Madrid and here's your wonderful research waiting this morning. Much appreciated.
 

gittiharre

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Camino(s) past & future
CF Austria Czech Le Puy Geneva RLS V. Jacobi V. Regia V. Baltica/Scandinavica Porto Muxia
My gut told me that it would be easy to plan for short stages on the Madrid. But since my gut was wrong yesterday when I ventured the opinion that short stages on the Mozárabe would be problematic (turns out it’s EASY between Almería and Granada), I thought I should do some actual tabulation. So...

Starting with my stages from years ago, https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/my-leisurely-stages-on-the-camino-de-madrid.11148/ I came up with one option. I just used gronze with my stages as a base, but doing that showed me that there are many other ways to do this, because the accommodations on the Madrid (assuming you can splurge on private places) are quite plentiful. To start with, the albergue infrastructure is excellent, and when you factor in towns with hotels/pensiones, your options increase a lot!

Day 1 — From Church of Santiago to Fuencarral (the town, not the street). That would be about 20 and there are places to stay there, none cheap. OR you can hop on Cercanías train for a few minutes back to Madrid and then come back out the next day.

Day 2 — Fuencarral to Tres Cantos (13)

Day 3 — Tres Cantos to Colmenar (10)

Day 4 — Colmenar to Manzanares (15)

Day 5 — Manzanares to Cercedilla (20) — can also be split with a stop in Mataelpino, where there is an albergue

Day 6 — Cercedilla to La Granja (21)

Day 7 — La Granja to Segovia (8)

Day 8 — Segovia to Añe (20 km) (also easy to shorten with a stop in Los Huertos)

Day 9 — Añe to Santa María la Real (12)

Day 10 — Santa María to Nava de la Asunción (13).

Day 11 — Nava to Villeguillo (17)

Day 12 — Villeguilo to Alcazarén (17)

Day 13 — Alcazarén to Valdestillas (16)

Day 14 — Valdestillas to Simancas (15). (Here I would also recommend a detour into Valladolid if you like medium sized Spanish cities. This is a very nice one, with a beautiful barroque monastery turned into the Spanish religious sculpture museum). Buses to and from both Puente Duero and Simancas are frequent).

Day 15 — Simancas to Peñaflor (21)

Day 16 — Peñaflor to Castromonte (9) (five star albergue, as are many of them on the Madrid!)

Day 17 — Castromonte to Medina de Rioseco (15)

Day 18 — Medina to Tamariz de Campos (12)

Day 19 — Tamariz to Villalón (14)

Day 20 — Villalón to Santervás (16)

Day 21 — Santervás to Sahagún (19)
Very close to my stages too. The stage to La Granja is somewhat longer than it states and Anje is scungy. Otherwise great. Very solitary route, but next to no asphalt! Very nice. Well marked too.
 

peregrina2000

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Staff member
Very close to my stages too. The stage to La Granja is somewhat longer than it states and Anje is scungy. Otherwise great. Very solitary route, but next to no asphalt! Very nice. Well marked too.
Hi, Gitti,
I have not stayed in Añe, but I thought I had heard that it has been spiffed up quite a bit. When were you there? The Gronze commentaries concur with your comment, so I am likely wrong about this.
 

gittiharre

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Camino(s) past & future
CF Austria Czech Le Puy Geneva RLS V. Jacobi V. Regia V. Baltica/Scandinavica Porto Muxia
Hi, Gitti,
I have not stayed in Añe, but I thought I had heard that it has been spiffed up quite a bit. When were you there? The Gronze commentaries concur with your comment, so I am likely wrong about this.
Passed through in 2016, met people there, who said it was grotty. Did not see it myself.
 

gerardcarey

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CFx2, CPx1
My gut told me that it would be easy to plan for short stages on the Madrid. But since my gut was wrong yesterday when I ventured the opinion that short stages on the Mozárabe would be problematic (turns out it’s EASY between Almería and Granada), I thought I should do some actual tabulation. So...

Starting with my stages from years ago, https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/my-leisurely-stages-on-the-camino-de-madrid.11148/ I came up with one option. I just used gronze with my stages as a base, but doing that showed me that there are many other ways to do this, because the accommodations on the Madrid (assuming you can splurge on private places) are quite plentiful. To start with, the albergue infrastructure is excellent, and when you factor in towns with hotels/pensiones, your options increase a lot!
You, cobber, are a ruddy champion.
Gail, igailfh from the previous post, and I have been discussing this at length.
I'm considering putting this together with the Winter Way (I'm a traditionalist) to finally wind up in Santiago.
Maybe finish up a European tour with the English slice of the VF, Canterbury to Dover, perhaps even starting in London walking Chaucer's route fm Southwark. How cool would that be.

Regards, thanks again, and Merry Christmas to all!
Gerard
 

jungleboy

Nick
Camino(s) past & future
Francés 2017
Primitivo 2018
Madrid 2019
Kumano Kodo 2019
Any suggestions for must-sees along the way would be great.
Segovia, of course. Other than that, my favourite historic sites were:

- Casa Eraso, the ruins of a 16th-century royal way station past the mountain pass on the stage into Segovia (day four for us).

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- The Visigothic / Mozárabe-Romanesque / Gothic church and ossuary at Wamba (day nine for us).

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- The evocative, ruined 16th-century tower at Tamariz (day eleven for us).

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igailfh

Active member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Português, Camino de Tejo (Fatima)
Segovia, of course. Other than that, my favourite historic sites were:

- Casa Eraso, the ruins of a 16th-century royal way station past the mountain pass on the stage into Segovia (day four for us).


- The Visigothic / Mozárabe-Romanesque / Gothic church and ossuary at Wamba (day nine for us).


- The evocative, ruined 16th-century tower at Tamariz (day eleven for us).

Thanks for your suggestions, @jungleboy,.The pics look great.
 
Camino(s) past & future
CF 2006,08,09,11,12(2),13(2),14,16(2),18(2) Aragones 11,12,VDLP 11,13,Lourdes 12,Malaga 16,Port 06
Thanks for all this info, @peregrina2000. It'll come in handy for me too as the Camino Madrid is one of the options I'm tossing for my next Camino. 15-20kms is about my comfort zone. Any suggestions for must-sees along the way would be great.
I walked the Madrid route in Spring of 2014 and 2016.
You can find the beginning of those blog posts and follow them for photos of the trails and albergues.

For me, there were several "must sees" that people often miss.
Here are a few:

Wamba Church

Segovia

The wonderful hidden paintings behind the retablo at Alcazaran!

The Semana Santa Museum in Medina
 

KinkyOne

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
I'am not perfect, but I'm always myself!!!
Hi, Gitti,
I have not stayed in Añe, but I thought I had heard that it has been spiffed up quite a bit. When were you there? The Gronze commentaries concur with your comment, so I am likely wrong about this.
I was staying there last spring for the second time (first in 2014). Nothing really changed but they refreshed it a little bit. No smell of a mould anymore so I guess hospitalero/a opens the doors and windows more often or maybe there is more pilgrim traffic. New paint on the walls, small electric radiator in smaller room (2 bunks) and a little kitchenette added were main new things there but otherwise it's still very basic although I like it very much.
 

lthrnck55

Member
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Camino Frances Sept/Oct 2014

Camino Frances via Lourdes Sept/Oct/Nov 2020 ( Hopefully )
My gut told me that it would be easy to plan for short stages on the Madrid. But since my gut was wrong yesterday when I ventured the opinion that short stages on the Mozárabe would be problematic (turns out it’s EASY between Almería and Granada), I thought I should do some actual tabulation. So...

Starting with my stages from years ago, https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/my-leisurely-stages-on-the-camino-de-madrid.11148/ I came up with one option. I just used gronze with my stages as a base, but doing that showed me that there are many other ways to do this, because the accommodations on the Madrid (assuming you can splurge on private places) are quite plentiful. To start with, the albergue infrastructure is excellent, and when you factor in towns with hotels/pensiones, your options increase a lot!

Day 1 — From Church of Santiago to Fuencarral (the town, not the street). That would be about 20 and there are places to stay there, none cheap. OR you can hop on Cercanías train for a few minutes back to Madrid and then come back out the next day.

Day 2 — Fuencarral to Tres Cantos (13)

Day 3 — Tres Cantos to Colmenar (10)

Day 4 — Colmenar to Manzanares (15)

Day 5 — Manzanares to Cercedilla (20) — can also be split with a stop in Mataelpino, where there is an albergue

Day 6 — Cercedilla to La Granja (21)

Day 7 — La Granja to Segovia (8)

Day 8 — Segovia to Añe (20 km) (also easy to shorten with a stop in Los Huertos)

Day 9 — Añe to Santa María la Real (12)

Day 10 — Santa María to Nava de la Asunción (13).

Day 11 — Nava to Villeguillo (17)

Day 12 — Villeguilo to Alcazarén (17)

Day 13 — Alcazarén to Valdestillas (16)

Day 14 — Valdestillas to Simancas (15). (Here I would also recommend a detour into Valladolid if you like medium sized Spanish cities. This is a very nice one, with a beautiful barroque monastery turned into the Spanish religious sculpture museum). Buses to and from both Puente Duero and Simancas are frequent).

Day 15 — Simancas to Peñaflor (21)

Day 16 — Peñaflor to Castromonte (9) (five star albergue, as are many of them on the Madrid!)

Day 17 — Castromonte to Medina de Rioseco (15)

Day 18 — Medina to Tamariz de Campos (12)

Day 19 — Tamariz to Villalón (14)

Day 20 — Villalón to Santervás (16)

Day 21 — Santervás to Sahagún (19)
Thanks for this stage list. I am considering a pilgrimage this fall on the Camino de Madrid. Very helpful.
 

igailfh

Active member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Português, Camino de Tejo (Fatima)
Thanks for your must sees, @Anniesantiago. I think Alcazaran is a definite.
I've just found a 2020 Camino Madrid guidebook on Amazon so I'll check that out too.
 

omar504

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Camino(s) past & future
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016,2017,2018
My gut told me that it would be easy to plan for short stages on the Madrid. But since my gut was wrong yesterday when I ventured the opinion that short stages on the Mozárabe would be problematic (turns out it’s EASY between Almería and Granada), I thought I should do some actual tabulation. So...

Starting with my stages from years ago, https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/my-leisurely-stages-on-the-camino-de-madrid.11148/ I came up with one option. I just used gronze with my stages as a base, but doing that showed me that there are many other ways to do this, because the accommodations on the Madrid (assuming you can splurge on private places) are quite plentiful. To start with, the albergue infrastructure is excellent, and when you factor in towns with hotels/pensiones, your options increase a lot!

Day 1 — From Church of Santiago to Fuencarral (the town, not the street). That would be about 20 and there are places to stay there, none cheap. OR you can hop on Cercanías train for a few minutes back to Madrid and then come back out the next day.

Day 2 — Fuencarral to Tres Cantos (13)

Day 3 — Tres Cantos to Colmenar (10)

Day 4 — Colmenar to Manzanares (15)

Day 5 — Manzanares to Cercedilla (20) — can also be split with a stop in Mataelpino, where there is an albergue

Day 6 — Cercedilla to La Granja (21)

Day 7 — La Granja to Segovia (8)

Day 8 — Segovia to Añe (20 km) (also easy to shorten with a stop in Los Huertos)

Day 9 — Añe to Santa María la Real (12)

Day 10 — Santa María to Nava de la Asunción (13).

Day 11 — Nava to Villeguillo (17)

Day 12 — Villeguilo to Alcazarén (17)

Day 13 — Alcazarén to Valdestillas (16)

Day 14 — Valdestillas to Simancas (15). (Here I would also recommend a detour into Valladolid if you like medium sized Spanish cities. This is a very nice one, with a beautiful barroque monastery turned into the Spanish religious sculpture museum). Buses to and from both Puente Duero and Simancas are frequent).

Day 15 — Simancas to Peñaflor (21)

Day 16 — Peñaflor to Castromonte (9) (five star albergue, as are many of them on the Madrid!)

Day 17 — Castromonte to Medina de Rioseco (15)

Day 18 — Medina to Tamariz de Campos (12)

Day 19 — Tamariz to Villalón (14)

Day 20 — Villalón to Santervás (16)

Day 21 — Santervás to Sahagún (19)
Laurie
I've looked at stage 6 and cannot find anywhere to stay in la granja...google maps seem to show it as an area rather than a place. My french guide book ploughs on to segovia whuch doesn't appeal!
 

marylynn

Ontario Canada
Camino(s) past & future
2011-2019 CF, Arles/Aragones
2015 & 2017 HærvejenDK
THANK YOU for sharing the short-stage itinerary for the Camino Madrid. I would love to walk it but would not be able to walk the 30k days. Now it feels like it is definitely in my future! Thanks!
 

peregrina2000

Moderator
Staff member
Laurie
I've looked at stage 6 and cannot find anywhere to stay in la granja...google maps seem to show it as an area rather than a place. My french guide book ploughs on to segovia whuch doesn't appeal!
I don’t know if La Granja (de San Ildefonso is the rest of its name) is a town or just a description of the place where the Royal Palace is, but in addition to its fancy parador, there is an albergue there.

La Granja is not an “official” part of the Camino de Madrid, but there are several threads here from forum members who have gone off-camino to shorten the stage into Segovia, and also to take a look at the palace and its gardens — both are really nice, great spot for an afternoon.

You have to get information on where to go off route to detour over to La Granja. Several forum members have done this. Here is one thread, but I remember there were several a few years ago. The next day, it is a roadside walk of about 11 km into Segovia, but I know that some have taken a bus as well.

Good luck with the planning, it is such a nice camino!
 

omar504

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Many thanks
I don’t know if La Granja (de San Ildefonso is the rest of its name) is a town or just a description of the place where the Royal Palace is, but in addition to its fancy parador, there is an albergue there.

La Granja is not an “official” part of the Camino de Madrid, but there are several threads here from forum members who have gone off-camino to shorten the stage into Segovia, and also to take a look at the palace and its gardens — both are really nice, great spot for an afternoon.

You have to get information on where to go off route to detour over to La Granja. Several forum members have done this. Here is one thread, but I remember there were several a few years ago. The next day, it is a roadside walk of about 11 km into Segovia, but I know that some have taken a bus as well.

Good luck with the planning, it is such a nice camino!
Many thanks!...i'll do a bit more investigating...rough plan is levante..yet again! That section after cebreros is a favourite with rolling hills and noone around. The stage into avila has that hefty climb..i've taken the road and tge route through the valley (and the cows). At zamora might head to merida and walk back to zamora then maybe the madrid. I tried it a few years ago but accommodation was a problem,one place had 2 hostals one was closed the other fully booked with construction workers...all this because i like to avoid winter in oz
 

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