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Cell phone theft deterrent

trecile

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Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018

twh

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Camino(s) past & future
Frances May/June, 2018
Porto-Muxia-Finisterre Oct (2019)
Looks like a good idea for the sleep sack and "grab & runs" when your phone is on a cafe table. They may still get the phone but you will know about it immediately and be able to intervene in some way.

I would worry that this might actually help pick pocketers to extract your phone from your pocket while you are walking in a busy city. It's much less intrusive to pull it out by the cable than sticking their fingers in your pocket, gripping it and then pulling it out. These events are typically done in combination with some big distractions and a little physical jostling and a helper or two.
 
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trecile

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Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
Looks like a good idea for the sleep sack and "grab & runs" when your phone is on a cafe table. They may still get the phone but you will know about it immediately and be able to intervene in some.

I would worry that this might actually help pick pocketers to extract your phone from your pocket while you are walking in a busy city. It's much less intrusive to pull it out by the cable than sticking their fingers in your pocket, gripping it and then pulling it out. These events are typically done in combination with some big distractions and a little physical jostling and a helper or two.
I don't carry my phone in my pocket. It's in a crossbody purse in a zippered compartment, so there would be nothing sticking out for anyone to grab.
 

C clearly

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016). Seville-Astorga (Mar 2017). Mozarabe (Apr-May 2018)
I bought this leash for my cell phone
I use a leash for my phone almost always - equally to protect against my forgetfulness as against dropping from a bridge or having it stolen. The leash is long enough that I can still take photos, but it has a quick release if I need it..
I would worry that this might actually help pick pocketers to extract your phone from your pocket while you are walking in a busy city.
My leash saved my phone from a pickpocket in Prague. I was walking along in mid-day, without a care, with no one else on the street (except, apparently, lurking in a doorway), when suddenly my phone was dangling around my knees. Two men brushed by me and muttered something that I can only imagine! I am certain that one was lifting the phone from my bag and was going to hand it to his friend to hurry off while he bumped by my side to distract me.
 

twh

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances May/June, 2018
Porto-Muxia-Finisterre Oct (2019)
I don't carry my phone in my pocket. It's in a crossbody purse in a zippered compartment, so there would be nothing sticking out for anyone to grab.
yes, that is a secure way to carry it.

when I pulled up the link you offered the picture below made me squirm from a security standpoint

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twh

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances May/June, 2018
Porto-Muxia-Finisterre Oct (2019)
Nothing beats a deep front pocket in a pair of close fitting pants. If I don't have that, I'm happy with my pacsafe fanny pack worn in front as a belly pack or as you say a cross body purse/pack with some anti theft engineering.

In Rome, Paris, London, NYC etc...the phone in the picture above would be separated from it's owner in a short time...with or without a leash. The carabiners have no locks or deterrents and the case is easily peeled off the phone.

I am agreeing with you, it looks like a good product. For the person in the picture above it will be useful as a keeper if the phone accidentally falls out of that back pocket. However in a pick pocket situation it may extend the life of ownership by 1 or 2 seconds.
 

Lance Chambers

Lance Chambers
Camino(s) past & future
Sarria (2015), SJPdP (2016), Burgos (2017), SJPdP (2018), Burgo (2019), SJPdP (2023?).
I take an old phone with me. Worth about $0.10 if I'm lucky. Works fine for calling friends, family and alburgues I want to book into and to navigate to the albergues as well using Google Maps.

I don't care if it gets lost or stolen.

Was my wife's and that's why it has a pink cover.

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Del Estrecho, Ruta Fray Leopoldo,
Vía Serrano
I bought this leash for my cell phone ...
Thanks for posting the link to this! Our homemade leashes (photo near the bottom of the page) have been invaluable on two trips now, but I've been hoping to stumble across a coiled leash to shorten the length when being stored in a bag. It seems like it wouldn't get so easily tangled up with the other contents. Yours looks like just the ticket.
 

Walking Lover

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CdS from Leon to Santiago, June 16, 2016 to June 30, 2016.
I bought this leash for my cell phone that I will attach inside my sleep sack at night. I was originally looking at it thinking of pickpockets when I'm in Paris before the Camino. The tether can also be looped around the wrist for a wrist strap. Also handy for people who tend to drop their phones. :)

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07FQWCYMK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Wear the phone on the front of your body. I carry mine zipped in a fanny pack and pinned to me.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
In Rome, Paris, London, NYC etc...the phone in the picture above would be separated from it's owner in a short time...with or without a leash. The carabiners have no locks or deterrents and the case is easily peeled off the phone.
This leash is attached to the phone with an adhesive pad, and the carabiners do lock, which I discovered because I couldn't open them at first. But you are right, I would never leave a cell phone sticking out of a pocket.
 
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Davey Boyd

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Camino(s) past & future
Seven Compostelas in Three years and counting......
I just gaffer tape my phone to my forehead. It works! Pickpockets won't come near me, cos they think I'm crazy or something. (But I don't understand why I am terminally single).

Joking aside, I use one for my pocket knife, I am forever leaving them behind on picnic benches. (Found many knives on the camino on picnic benches too).

Don't really care about my phone though. But I think it is a good idea if you do! Get one shorter than hip to floor, then if you drop it no worries.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (Aug 1, 2019)
Flipbelt sits flat against your bod. I wear it over my pants hips with my shirt hanging over / covering it. If you buy the black one it doesn't stand out.

Cell phone (gigantoid iphone 6+) and passport fit in the front. That way they're real easy to pull out. You must buy Flipbelt Zipper for giant phones, it's wider than Flipbelt Classic. My small cash / credit card "purse" fits on front, towards the side, attached to Flipbelt's hook. In the back I zip in my Tyvek wallet (very thin) with my big cash and extra credit cards.

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zrexer

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
2014, 15,16 & 19 Camino Frances
2017 Camino Portuguese
2018 Camino Primitivo
Not owning a cell or smart phone for the last four years saves me this concern. Decided to go without one for awhile after retiring and four years later I don't miss having one at all. Very freeing.
People ask, 'How do people get a hold of you then?' They largely don't which is just about perfect...
 

CWBuff

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
in Planning stage: Frances (SJPdP --> SdC) & Finisterre "2021"
People ask, 'How do people get a hold of you then?' They largely don't which is just about perfect...
AHHHH.... The 'carelessness' of it all... One can only dream!!!!
I already had a well-meaning suggestions that I simply have to install some kind of tracking app as some of my friends, co-workers and Church members would LOVE to monitor my progress. I guess they will want the "live from Camino" updates next! :rolleyes:
 

Reggie (Scout)

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances/2019
Flipbelt sits flat against your bod. I wear it over my pants hips with my shirt hanging over / covering it. If you buy the black one it doesn't stand out.

Cell phone (gigantoid iphone 6+) and passport fit in the front. That way they're real easy to pull out. You must buy Flipbelt Zipper for giant phones, it's wider than Flipbelt Classic. My small cash / credit card "purse" fits on front, towards the side, attached to Flipbelt's hook. In the back I zip in my Tyvek wallet (very thin) with my big cash and extra credit cards.

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MichelleElynHogan

Veteran Member
As far as secure, though I did look thru the article description, I did not see how this would stand up to a box knife or small wire cutters. Thieves are always well prepared.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Lourdes to Burgos, Oct 2018
Burgos to Santiago, May 2019, D.V.
Flipbelt sits flat against your bod. I wear it over my pants hips with my shirt hanging over / covering it. If you buy the black one it doesn't stand out.

Cell phone (gigantoid iphone 6+) and passport fit in the front. That way they're real easy to pull out. You must buy Flipbelt Zipper for giant phones, it's wider than Flipbelt Classic. My small cash / credit card "purse" fits on front, towards the side, attached to Flipbelt's hook. In the back I zip in my Tyvek wallet (very thin) with my big cash and extra credit cards.

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Hmm. Think I'll be sewing my own today. Just need to raid my stash.......👍
 

Telboyo

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
I intend to leave the UK the day Before Brexit and walkMarch -April 2019 Camino Frances
Keep your phone in your pocket, put good security on it, fingerprint or face recognition, back everything up on an automatic basis. Get good insurance. so if you accidentally throw your phone into the trash the day before you leave for the camino you can have it all sorted before you arrive.
good insurance will get you a replacement phone while you are away so it is one less thing to worry about.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2016, Mansill de las Mulas to Finisterre and Muxia 2017, Camino Aragones 2018
I don't carry my phone in my pocket. It's in a crossbody purse in a zippered compartment, so there would be nothing sticking out for anyone to grab.
@trecile, would you please remind us which crossbody purse you carry? Is is large enough to carry a credential in the plastic sleeve from Ivar, a guidebook such as a Wise Pilgrim guide, your phone and perhaps sunglasses? This leash looks like a great idea not just for a camino but for dog walking!
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
@trecile, would you please remind us which crossbody purse you carry? Is is large enough to carry a credential in the plastic sleeve from Ivar, a guidebook such as a Wise Pilgrim guide, your phone and perhaps sunglasses? This leash looks like a great idea not just for a camino but for dog walking!
The last two years I used this Travelon crossbody bag, and it holds everything that you mention except a guidebook, which I don't carry, except on my kindle app on my phone.

https://www.amazon.com/Travelon-Anti-Theft-Classic-Crossbody-FLOWER/dp/B01E5JKPS8?th=1&psc=1

However, this year I have a new giant phone that doesn't quite fit, so I'll be using this Baggallini Triple Zip bag that can be worn crossbody or as a waist pack.

 

bgil

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
European Peace Walk 2015, Camino Frances 2016
On a related idea, when anyone tries to log onto my phone the screen shows my name and provides instructions about what to do in any emergency. It's easy to set this up. Take a piece of paper about the shape and size of your phone. Write a message on the paper. Take a photo of the message with your phone. Then go find that photo and hunt for an option to use this image as your "desktop" image.
 

Moorwalker

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none yet
AHHHH.... The 'carelessness' of it all... One can only dream!!!!
I already had a well-meaning suggestions that I simply have to install some kind of tracking app as some of my friends, co-workers and Church members would LOVE to monitor my progress. I guess they will want the "live from Camino" updates next! :rolleyes:
Tell them you'll send postcards occasionally. I'd be terribly tempted to buy a very cheap phone, install the nosy parker tracking software, and send it off with a friend who is a long distance truck driver. I'm wicked that way.

I hate the obsession that people now have for knowing every movement you make. Mobile phones are very recent, for most of my life I've walked and travelled out of contact for weeks at a time. I hitch hiked around Europe age 17, sailed around the world and then worked on various charter yachts when I was 20-21. Even as a child, from about 10 my Mum would give me some sandwiches, enough change for the public telephone, and tell me to be home for tea, and my friends' mums did much the same thing. These days if you visit friends they are liable to try to insist that you call them when you "get home safely," something I will not do.
 

Moorwalker

Member
Camino(s) past & future
none yet
The really valuable thing is not usually the phone itself but the data on it. Losing an expensive iPhone is a pain,but losing all your contacts details, diary etc is far more serious, not just for your own use but because of all the personal information that can be retrieved. I shall be carrying a cheap phone with only the data that I actually need on route and not linked to my normal email and contacts details. Always use some form of security for access, and don't use the most common password - 123456!
 

CWBuff

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
in Planning stage: Frances (SJPdP --> SdC) & Finisterre "2021"
Tell them you'll send postcards occasionally. I'd be terribly tempted to buy a very cheap phone, install the nosy parker tracking software, and send it off with a friend who is a long distance truck driver. I'm wicked that way.

I hate the obsession that people now have for knowing every movement you make. Mobile phones are very recent, for most of my life I've walked and travelled out of contact for weeks at a time. I hitch hiked around Europe age 17, sailed around the world and then worked on various charter yachts when I was 20-21. Even as a child, from about 10 my Mum would give me some sandwiches, enough change for the public telephone, and tell me to be home for tea, and my friends' mums did much the same thing. These days if you visit friends they are liable to try to insist that you call them when you "get home safely," something I will not do.
LOL
Honestly I don't think I even would want to be bothered with post cards ;)
I sort of posted it kinda like a joke - exactly along the line you are mentioning. People have to know everything 'right now' and the fact that I am in the middle of self-discovery (hoefully) spiritual Pilgrimage somehow does not penetrate
Oh Well....
 

chinacat

Veteran Member
On a related idea, when anyone tries to log onto my phone the screen shows my name and provides instructions about what to do in any emergency. It's easy to set this up. Take a piece of paper about the shape and size of your phone. Write a message on the paper. Take a photo of the message with your phone. Then go find that photo and hunt for an option to use this image as your "desktop" image.
I’ve been wondering how I can keep some essential health data visible on my mobile (on the lock screen) ... nobody seems to look for handwritten information any more 🙄 .... and there’s too much info for one of those medic-alert bracelets.

My mobile’s too old to have that emergency alert thingy; besides which, it’s rarely out of airplane mode.

Thank you, @bgil. Great idea!
 

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