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Collapsible (Nacatin) walking poles - DIY help request

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C. F. (2014 & 2019) C. P. (2016). Thinking 2024 CF
I discovered these collapsible walking poles on the forum and ordered them thinking how great it would be to have poles that fit inside my backpack or suitcase. We may have been overzealous in putting them together because the top pole came away from the handle!!

I've searched online for some DIY instructions on reattaching, but have not found anything. Now turning to our Camino community for DIY help.
 

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dougfitz

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Do the lower sections still lock properly when they are extended? If they do, it may be that there is not need to attach that spring to anything, just get that section back into the handle. Without seeing the whole pole, I am speculating here that the spring is to tension the cable running through the lower sections that keep them from falling apart, and isn't attached to the handle. Once the section with the spring is back in the handle, adjust the length and close the flick lock. It would probably pay not to extend them any further than where it is labelled STOP!! That might have been a clue that the lower sections weren't meant to come out any further.
 
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Hi A-C, this looks serious to me. I don't think the cable is ever designed to detach itself from inside the handle. I've just been looking at my Leki Trail Micro Varios. These have a similar speedlock system. If the cable came away from inside the handle, then I can't see any detachable parts that would allow me to take off the handle and re-attach it.
Because there is a loop at the end of the cable, I would try and unclip all the sections, so it is in travel mode, and then, when you have the max amount of free cable, try pushing the loop up into the handle and seeing if there's a hook it can grab onto. But even if it did, you'd always have the risk of it unhitching again. So really, while that might be a temporary fix, I think it's very likely you are going to have to return this to the seller or manufacturer for a replacement.
 
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Fr Scott

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Starting El Camino Norte in Irun June 3, 2015
I discovered these collapsible walking poles on the forum and ordered them thinking how great it would be to have poles that fit inside my backpack or suitcase. We may have been overzealous in putting them together because the top pole came away from the handle!!

I've searched online for some DIY instructions on reattaching, but have not found anything. Now turning to our Camino community for DIY help.
Good call getting the 3 section collapsible poles. I have never had any problems getting through TSA with my Black Diamond Z Poles. As a last resort, if you can’t get yours fixed, you might give the black diamonds a try. Black Diamond Distance Z Z Poles for Trekking, Trailrunning, Hiking https://a.co/d/fcplpsK
 

ken2116

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Good call getting the 3 section collapsible poles. I have never had any problems getting through TSA with my Black Diamond Z Poles. As a last resort, if you can’t get yours fixed, you might give the black diamonds a try. Black Diamond Distance Z Z Poles for Trekking, Trailrunning, Hiking https://a.co/d/fcplpsK
On Black Diamond Z poles, they're great when new but have two flaws that limit their life and reliability: 1) after a number of foldings the (sharp) edges of the sections cut into the rubber protection of the tensioning cord and eventually the cord itself - there's no way to repair a cut cord (other than permanently gluing the sections together), so be gentle with folding and avoid doing it more than necessary. Smoothing the sharp inner edges of the tube ends also should help. 2) The inserts at the insides of the joints eventually become unglued and slip out of position, sometimes completely retracting into the outer tubes - this could result in unexpected folding while under pressure, loss of balance, and potential injury. The inserts appear to be glued in place with a brittle glue, perhaps superglue, which doesn't tolerate flexing and debonds. This has happened to all joints on one set of our poles and two joints with another - Black Diamond says to re-glue with superglue but we've had more success with roughing up the surface a bit (go easy) to give the glue some bite and re-gluing with a more flexible or tough epoxy sold as a structural adhesive. (example: 3M No. 2216, JB Weld also works). Inserts that retract completely can be extracted with a bent wire, such as a bicycle spoke. Check the joints periodically.
 
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RJM

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Camino's Frances, Fisterre, Portuges. Over 180 day
There's a reason why I buy inexpensive trekking poles. I've come to see them as almost disposable. They all have that "STOP" printed indicating beyond that and you muck up the pole. I recommend perhaps painting in bright color a pre warning just before that point. Paint a band about an inch or two wide indicating you're approaching the failsafe point lol.
I've seen several pilgrims muck up their collapsible trekking poles on the Frances.
 
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C. F. (2014 & 2019) C. P. (2016). Thinking 2024 CF
Hi A-C, this looks serious to me. I don't think the cable is ever designed to detach itself from inside the handle. I've just been looking at my Leki Trail Micro Varios. These have a similar speedlock system. If the cable came away from inside the handle, then I can't see any detachable parts that would allow me to take off the handle and re-attach it.
Because there is a loop at the end of the cable, I would try and unclip all the sections, so it is in travel mode, and then, when you have the max amount of free cable, try pushing the loop up into the handle and seeing if there's a hook it can grab onto. But even if it did, you'd always have the risk of it unhitching again. So really, while that might be a temporary fix, I think it's very likely you are going to have to return this to the seller or manufacturer for a replacement.
Thanks, Peregrino_tom beginning to think that what we thought was force perhaps is a manufacturer defect.
 
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Latest: Rota Vicentina '19; Portuguese '19.
Good call getting the 3 section collapsible poles. I have never had any problems getting through TSA with my Black Diamond Z Poles. As a last resort, if you can’t get yours fixed, you might give the black diamonds a try. Black Diamond Distance Z Z Poles for Trekking, Trailrunning, Hiking https://a.co/d/fcplpsK
I do not own Black Diamond Z poles, but from what I always read on the forum, they seem to be the only poles that consistently get through TSA in your backpack.
 
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Shirley Griffioen

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Good call getting the 3 section collapsible poles. I have never had any problems getting through TSA with my Black Diamond Z Poles. As a last resort, if you can’t get yours fixed, you might give the black diamonds a try. Black Diamond Distance Z Z Poles for Trekking, Trailrunning, Hiking https://a.co/d/fcplpsK
We are concerned about taking walking poles as part of our carryon backpack. Our air carrier views them as potential weapons, like a knife. It costs too much to take as luggage so our thought is to purchase them in SJDP when we get there in early September. Are you aware of any shops who sell them in SJDP. Thanks from Canada.
 
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Hi Shirley, when I did the Camino Frances in 2019 I shrink-wrapped my pack and checked it in. For carryon I used a fold-up backpack. When I got to SdeC I went to the pilgrims office; they have an array of packaging and shipping options. My poles arrived home before me!
By the time I arrived in SJPP, what with jet lag and two train trips, checked in and got my credencial from the Pilgrims office I was shattered. That said there is a well stocked pilgrim shop in SJPP.
 

henrythedog

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I do not own Black Diamond Z poles, but from what I always read on the forum, they seem to be the only poles that consistently get through TSA in your backpack.
It must be one of those unwritten rules - like in the UK where BMW drivers are allowed to park in disabled bays; apparently.

There’s no good reason why z-poles would pass; but then there’s no real consistency to the application of the rules either.
 

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