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considering canceling my trip :(

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Camino Frances topics' started by MrsBath, Mar 18, 2017.

  1. Doogman

    Doogman Active Member Donating Member

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    You have received some excellent advice from many different sources here, but the one line that likely rings true for many of us comes from @Mike Savage: "..... I don't recall regretting things I have done but only things that I have not done."
     
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  2. MrsBath

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    Your story is not unrelated! I could tell a similar story, but I only drove 4 hours to the camping trip I bailed on after one night. And I don't regret bailing, I regret not listening to my gut and going on a trip I didn't want to take. I have since gone on many camping trips that I haven't bailed on -- I didn't, like, ruin camping for myself by not going on that one trip, lol.

    Honestly I am not usually like this! This level of anxiety and trepidation is not usual for me, especially over something like a trip.
     
  3. SueWhaits

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    Thank you for sharing this! I too have been suffering with anxieties in anticipation of my first Camino....
    This has helped me breathe ....thank you
     
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  4. MrsBath

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    Thank you! I said it in another reply, but I really am not usually like this - this level of anxiety is out of character for me, especially about something like a trip. Clearly I need to work some things out.

    When I started this thread I didn't think it would get so much attention. I feel a little sheepish about it now, to be honest. But everyone is so kind, and I'm grateful, and feeling a lot less panicky.
     
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    Why don't you start at Leon and walk the rest of the way. You don't need to do the whole thing. why not start at St Jean Pied de Port and walk to Orisson, then back to the St Jean. Then take the bus to Pamplona and then bus to Burgos or Leon. Walk from there.

    Stop overthinking. Just take the step. You can do it. It is not a race and you don't have to prove anything to anyone. This is supposed to be enjoyable, do it to enjoy it. If you don't want to do it, try something else. Do an Intrepid tour of Europe or something like that. Good luck
     
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  6. Annie Little

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    Well then you Definitely need to go !
    You said you don't know why you wanted to go .... you don't need to know ! Just Rock Up ... the why will fill itself in later ....

    Enough Talk .... Ready , Set , Go !!!

    Ultreia
    Onwards and Upwards
     
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  7. alexwalker

    alexwalker Forever Pilgrim Donating Member

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    Mrs,

    I smile a little here. I have taken some time to read responses here, because this is much likely a real issue for newcomers on the Camino,

    You have gotten more than a fair share of responses here, both from newbies as well as from experienced pilgrims. They all urge you to walk it, more or less. Ask yourself why they are so eager for you to walk it? What do they want you to find/experience? What have they learned, that you don't know yet? Remember, none of them are in it for the money; They are simply trying to help you out.

    I will not advice you about what others have done or said, but I can say one thing: There is a reason why people are trying to help you and advice you to walk your way: They have found something there and want you to get in on/share the secret. For me, wether you walk or not, is uninteresting. You can find your way, or stay where you are. Up to you. I hope you take on the challenge of living real a little. That is what the Camino is delivering for many of us, It can be a lifechanger if your mind is receptible.

    Having said all that, I walk on happily in Spain, on different Caminos, and have a spiritual and cultural time of my life ;)

    There is your answer, I think...
     
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  8. trecile

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    @MrsBath , do you think that maybe the reason that you started this thread is because you really want to be convinced to go?
     
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  9. MrsBath

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    Truthfully, no. I had tied myself up into so many knots in the days before my posting that I couldn't tell if my anxiousness was about my trip, or something else. And it seemed too embarrassing to bring it up with the same people who just got finished wishing me well in my everyday life. I'm still not really sure what all this anxiety is about, but my gut is saying that it's definitely something else on top of any Camino worries.

    I think I wanted to hear other's experiences with pre-Camino worries and how it turned out for them, and get reassured that it isn't *so* terrible if I change my mind. And now I've read so many great stories, and received reassurances in abundance.

    It's more attention than I was expecting, by a lot. I thought a few people would answer, sure, but this is so much more than I expected. I was just so distressed in that moment, and I reached out to a place where people actually might know what I was talking about. Most people I've talked to in my everyday life already think it's a crazy idea, if they've even heard of it.

    I really am feeling much better now, and I will be taking my issues up with professionals. And I still have plenty of time to decide! My travel plans are all set unless I decide to change them.
     
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  10. Robo

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    together again :-)
    That's good to hear.... Though be aware that many of us have nothing better to do than to spend hours everyday talking about the Camino, given the slightest encouragement ;)

    Sometimes the sheer volume of responses can be a bit overwhelming..... One of the lovely aspects of this Forum.

    Don't feel awkward saying "thanks for all the encouragement, I'm off to wash my hair now" :D

    Alternatively.......I'm sure we can keep this topic going for weeks! ;)

    It's a great topic by the way......and I think by raising it you have probably helped many others with similar worries and doubts.
     
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    Then again, it seems to me Mrs. Bath is just beginning to get in touch with her "backstory" as to why she is planning the Camino. Far from escapism, it sounds like she is beginning to take in the truth, the truth which might set her free to undertake a new adventure, her own adventure which will be her choice to make of her own free will, under no compunction nor manipulation from anyone--family, foe or friend-- save her own desire.
    I believe that the moment we commit in good faith to walk the Camino, the Divine begins to work its healing to prepare us for the journey which indeed has already begun on the spiritual level and is filtering down to the physical level where we must wrestle with it, and integrate the healing. We have surrendered to the process, which is the most important thing, and which paves the way for the miraculous to unfold.
    There were countless miracles, both great and small, which paved the way for me to walk the Way, (one of which involved five hours in the dentist chair just days before my departure to deal with an abscessed tooth which would have been a nightmare had it happened on the Camino). If you can lay aside your doubts, and find a state of pure wonder and trust, the miracles will begin to pour into your life and you will see them for what they are. They already have begun, it sounds, from the insights you are receiving now.
    Blessings!
     
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    Hi Mrs Bath. My husband and I walked the Camino Frances in September 2014. I was so excited to be on this adventure until the day we were travelling to St Jean. I spent the day in tears with my stomach churning and feeling physically sick. We slept that night and started out the next morning, my husband taking it in his stride and me feeling no better. The first hill out of St Jean, I was ready to give up and go home.

    But, the saying that every journey begins with a single step is so true. You put one foot in front of the other and before you know it, you've moved up the road. You walk to the next tree and rest and when the day is done you have reached a destination.

    There is always the luxury of transporting your luggage to your next destination or taking a form of transport if you need or want.

    We walked at my pace, that is slow and we even had to rest for 2 days as I hurt my back but we made it. We may not have done it in style or as quick as others but we finished at the same destination as everyone else that was heading to Santiago.

    The most wonderful thing is the people you meet, they understand what you are going through, they get what you are doing and are so supportive. It is this that is calling us again. We are walking the Portuguese Camino this September and while I have no illusions that it will be any physically easier for me, it will be emotionally and mentally.

    Try and put your anxieties in perspective and take that first step, you'll be so glad you did.

    Buen Camino.
     
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  13. Micah26

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    Dear Mrs Bath,

    Well it seems like there are many reasons not to walk the Camino, as well as, many reasons to do so.

    I have been planning my first, to start at some unknown date, as I will walk after my mother dies. I have been learning Spanish, picking up things here and there, walking more, even watching movies and utube with my mother. She asked if I was excited- yes I am, but no I'm not, because it will mean my mother has died. I will carry a stone for her and the ashes of my best friend Nancy who died of cancer this past April.

    And I will walk because I need to. I need to be away on my own after caring for these two wonderful women for the last four years. They have taught me how to live with grace, how to manage with great pain, and how to die with dignity. And I will walk knowing how incredibly blessed I am being able to make this small gesture in memory of them and for me.

    I don't worry if I will finish just that I go and try. I had a stroke a few years ago wasn't supposed to walk again, but I do. I might be the slowest, it just might not be possible for me, but I will try.

    I grew up in a family as the youngest. My parents wanted a boy I was a great disappointment. In many ways, I was reminded that I couldn't or should' do something because I was a girl or not old enough or strong enough or just being silly. A lot of negative messages both verbally and physically delivered time and again.

    Now I am an adult and all that family stuff made me a psychotherapist specializing in trauma! So you have anxiety, doubts, second thoughts? Yup most people do when they try something new different when perhaps they've always been told they can't. Medication helps, therapy helps. But, I think the two things that help anxiety and doubt are breathing... really deep breathing meditation and walking. ( And of course animals!)

    If you can't go for physical reasons, only you can decide. Maybe you can't do it alone like you wanted but need help with transporting your bags or you or both. Sounds like you know all the parts of what this is that is blocking your way.

    Your life your decision, but you are already on the Way!
     
  14. William Garza

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    The funny things about any road or path???
    You get out of bed,put your feets on the floor..and there it is.

    Getting out of bed can be an ordeal
    Walking to the loo...
    The kitchen..
    Ohh, so yeah want to scratch the kitten eh?

    One step forward and there you are
    Moving
    And so you will
     
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    Hi there
    Just to add my bit. I walked from Logrono ten years ago when I was 58 and plan to walk Solo from SJPDP in September. I've gone through a range of emotions and also thought several months ago to give up the idea. It is a big expense to fly from New Zealand and I'm about to retire so finances are an issue. My renewed motivation came after decided to book a flight to Paris. I "smalled" it down. " I'm going to PARIS!!" Next I booked Orisson .... one step at a time. Now I have a flexible return flight booked 60 days later and accommodation in SJPDP. Who knows I may get to Santiago...Finis Terre. . I do know I'm going to Paris. Take heart.
     
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    Hallo!!! I believe that everyone was scared before taking the first step and that's normal and that's what happens in all new thing that we do in life.....
    It's your feelings and your camino so no one can tell you what do or not.....I will just tell you my personal feeling that the Camino is something that I think of everyday and maybe the best thing that I have done for myself.......if you have everything ready don't be affraid it's just the first step that's hard then you will adjust the camino to what you can or can't....it's a life time experience I believe for everyone!!!! Don't miss it.....
    And even if you don't know the reason...,don't worry would will discover it there....or when you are back!!!
    Hope you walk this beautiful and magical way!!!
    Buon camino...
     
  18. Jules67

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    How inspiring. Thanks Jim
     
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    I was terrified the night before our first Camino. I couldn't sleep, was halfway convinced we were doing a great mistake.

    I still can't sleep the night before a Camino. (Hell, who am I fooling? I wake up in the middle of the night the last MONTH before each Camino - because I am so very much looking forward to starting again.)

    If your Camino is 10 km of walking followed by a bus tour of Spain (we can recommend some lovely places to stop), then that's fine. But I hope you will give yourself this Camino, however far you actually walk.

    (Pre-training is overrated!)
     
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    Hello Mrs B,
    So sorry about the anxiety you are feeling. There must have been 'something' that 'called you' to plan your Camino? Lots of people hear about it, but not everyone books it, buys all the stuff, and trains for it. You Did All That. Could it be your inner child, wanting you to do something ... just for You? All these people that are 'discouraging' you, .. do they know you? the real you? Do they know themselves? I agree with Mike S, and would love Everyone to try it. It's such an 'interesting' journey, ... on so many levels. I have only done different stages of the various Ways. Each of the 4 trips were different, ... but incredible. I would love to have a job that would allow me the time off to do the full trip, ... but it's on my 'retirement bucket list' ... and I can't wait! I think, with the presence of mind you're in, the Camino would be a good option. If your doc says your back is ok, .. I mean you can't lift and carry if your back is sore, ... but if it's just the anxiety, ... I doubt there's anyone who hasn't felt anxious before the Camino. I'm doing my fist 'solo' trip next month; before I've always done groups, ... big and small. But I am soo excited, (& yeah, a bit nervous) ... because you are only 'solo' on the Camino when you choose to be. I can't explain the 'comraderie' that exists on the Camino (& yes, there'll be blisters too!) You will meet so many people, in so many different 'life scenarios' ... and you will 'share', ... if, what, and when, you want. I really do hope you go ahead. The phrase 'Feel the Fear and Do It Anyway' comes to mind. But, whatever you decide, try not to put to0 much pressure on yourself. Life is a journey, ... and you should enjoy the trip. Some people prefer to stay in one place, ... but I think it's nice to venture out a bit, ... and see who and what is out there. Home will always be there Mrs B. Buen Camino!
     
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    Dear Mrs. Bath,
    Forgive me if I'm redundant as I didn't have time to read all the previous posts but I felt I had to reply.
    I've been wanting to walk the Camino for over ten years but always came up with a reason to postpone it. Being a business owner every decision I've made over the years has always been analyzed over and over again to to ensure the possibility of a favorable outcome.
    Again this year after saying I'm definitely walking the Camino the doubts began to reemerge until while traveling down interstate 95 a big rig pulled right in front of me. Written across the back of his trailer was "But those who hope in the Lord will renew their strength. They will soar like eagles." Isaiah 40:31
    In all the years I have travelled on highways I have never seen a bible verse on a trailer.
    Thanks to the trucker from Indiana I will be walking this fall. Just keep thinking what really is the worst that can happen and it turns out it is not really that bad.
    All I know is I would rather try and fail than not try at all and have to live with regrets. I already have too many of those.
    Best of luck,
    Ed
     
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    So true, the biggest regrets of all are the things you did not do and when you arrive at Santiago the buzz you get is like nothing else! Carpe deum, and (the title of a book I read) "Tomorrow is too late"
     
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    If you do not have anyone to talk to, come and talk to your fellow pilgrims as you walk, if after a week you dont want to carry on, just fly home, then you will not spend the rest of your life thinking "what if?" I start my 2nd Camino in April, I have Parkinsons disease, sometimes I shake so much I cant hold a spoon! but I wont let it stop me, if I cant hold a spoon - I'll have sandwiches! Carpe deum and Buen Camino
     
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    Thanks @trecile I hadn't even thought to check FB for similar groups; I'm definitely not going to pull out this close (start on Friday) but, like @MrsBath have anxieties about certain aspects of the walk, one of which is walking alone - I've already sent off my request to join the group and look forward to meeting lots of fantabulous women (and of course fellas) along the way :)
     
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    I was originally planning to be there the same time. I will be in SJPP on April 19 now.
     
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    I agree, the "magic" of the camino is working already and you haven't even started walking yet!!!
     
  28. PlutseligPilegrim

    PlutseligPilegrim Frances 8/6 2016, El Norte 1/1 2017

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    I think you hit a common nerve.....the difference is that most peregrinos deal with dileberations of doubt AFTER they've gone off...

    My first camino was truly saved by fellow, kindhearted walkers....((i'm forever in debt Carlo/Sylvia))....it would have ended in Burgos without them....

    Soooo..... it's all natural reactions, it's all within anyone...it's a part of the script called Camino de Santiago ...a loooong historic line which you allready is a part of with your open mind/sharing....

    Buen Camino!
     
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    I am no doctor and I cannot speak for your health issues but I can definitely relate with the anxiety issues. I am a somewhat seasoned hiker , 70 yrs. old and I can think of a ton of reasons to worry I fuss over some things until I say "The hell with it" and get on with it.. It was that way when I started the AT years back. I really think that prehike anxiety is a normal thing I think once you take that first couple of steps you will be glad you went. Believe me you will not be alone. There will be tons of people and tons of help should you need it. I plan on going and walk my own walk. I don't care how fast or how far I go each day. My airline ticket is for 90 days so I can basically "stroll" my way along taking my sweet time. I I happen to really like a town I will take some rest and relaxation days there. The older I get I realize there are only so many hiking seasons left and I won't be any easier next year. So, I would play it safe to a point. Ask your doctor what he/she thinks. If doc gives you the go ahead then the rest is up to you but. PLEASE don't let fear and anxiety hold you back. I guarantee you they will disapate soon and you will wonder what the hell you were so afraid of. I think that if you are healthy enough and don't go you will regret it.
     
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    I am not really a 'selfie' person but I wanted to post a photo for all you nervous people. It's to demonstrate how soon you will feel On your Way and Not Nervous. Context: I arrived at Bayonne airport alone. I saw a girl with a backpack and said 'Hi, are you going all the way?' as a kind of introduction and joke. She said yes. We hung out in Bayonne for an hour or two, had a beer, got the bus to SJPP, had communal dinner with a whole bunch of pilgrims, which was really lovely. Got up super early next day to set off, and the photo was taken in the morning mist as we are just on our way over the bridge out of SJPP. It's 6am and WE HAVE NOT EVEN WALKED ANYWHERE YET but take a look at the looks on our faces:

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    And shout out to dear Natascha, who I walked with for a week, and am still in touch with 10 years later.
     
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    Glenn Rowe Enjoying the outdoors since 1957

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    In a word, "EXCELLENT!" I believe you're pretty-much aware of what's going on inside your head -- IF you take the time to listen.

    I am a newbie to the Camino but not to the human mind and heart. As Doctor Phil once said, "I have more degrees than a thermometer." (Well, only 3 degrees, but nearly 40 certifications.:cool:)

    Your challenge - your quest - your "mental Camino" if you will - has already begun. I simply urge you to begin resolving the issues of your "mental Camino" before beginning the physical/spiritual one. And, like many others, I also urge you to undertake your physical/spiritual Camino as part of the overall process -- but don't rush into it. Only you and your professional advisors can determine when -- or indeed, if.

    Please keep us posted.

    -- Glenn
     
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    Walking alone will be one of the least of your worries.
    When I was younger I would jump off a cliff and then look down to see if there was any water there. now that I am 70 i find that fear and anxiety want to creep into almost every adventure i want to do and sabotage it before it ever really gets off the ground. i figured I can stay afraid, anxious and overly cautious and sit on the couch the rest of my life and die safe and bored to hell. I have decided to quit letting fear run my life. If I go to France and don't like the camino, they i will bum around, see some things i have never seen before and come home, no harm, no foul. A friend, to add to the fray, asked me if i wan't afraid to fly and go to a foreign country with all the terrorist stuff going and told him I almost got whacked the other day pulling out in front of a huge lumber truck about 1/8 of a mile from where i live. Thank God the truck driver was alert and locked up his brakes, swerved and pulled off the side of the road. So there you have it. let the devil be damned. go and see what happens... you may be pleasantly surprised and i seriously doubt you will be disappointed . FEAR=False Events Appearing Real
     
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    Wonderful words, Chuck -- but not in this case. MrsBath's devils (plural) are all-too-real, and to urge her to "damn the devils" is a significant disservice. Should you want to discuss this further, let's take it to a private conversation.
     
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    Point(s) well taken my friend. If I have done a disservice i sincerely apologize to Ms. Bath. only meant to help did not mean it as an affront.
     
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    I just read your the part or your post about a "private conversation I don't want to take this to a private conversation. i guess i made a mistake, unintentionally. i apologized, you made me feel bad for an honest mistake. You won, okay. Let's give it a rest . Did you read the forum rules of no personal attacks. you could have posted me privately about my sin but no. I feel humiliated publicly. Thanks for making my day. Buen Camino
     
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    This is a very excellent post. Very encouraging. Tou are to be commended. i once heard that being brave is being afraid and doing it anyway.
     
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    At SJPP, at Orrison, I met a man named Jim. He was older than me-- In his 60's, and we talked for a little while-- I ended up telling him some of the problems in my life and my families. -- He had been a fireman in Boston most of his life and had damaged his lungs with smoke inhalation. He was having his pack taken by taxi to Roncevalles, but was determined to get over the Napolean Pass. -- I met him the following day at Roncevalles. He was sitting a chair in the small sitting room of my floor (the new albergue there.) I had arrived at about 12;30 that day, he had just arrived at 8pm or so. We sat together and talked for a while. The climb had been harder than he had thought it would be, and he was thinking of renting a car. He had stopped at my floor (he had a bed on the floor above), because he could not catch his breath. He said that he would remember his camino for all his life, and that even that one day was fulfilling. He said too that he had been praying for me and my family while he walked. That fact has come back to me again and again. Just yesterday while I was driving, I had the image of him stopping out of breath and praying for me. I am so humbled. -- I never saw Jim again. I don't know if he rented a car, or walked some more. But his walking just that one day touched my life more deeply than others I met who walked the whole way.
     
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    Hi,
    Not sure exactly what your back problems are, but it might encourage you to know that I had serious back issues and anxieties before walking the camino last spring. Much to my surprise and delight, I found out that strapping on the backpack actually relieved the pain in my back, and I ended up regarding what I had thought of as a torture device as something therapeutic.
    Good luck!
     
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    This is good man. Thanks
     
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    You don't have to have questions or Why's before you go. For many, they appear once you arrive and start walking.
    Buen Camino
     
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    • Oh my gosh, yes I was terrified just planning my first Camino. Luckily my sister is travel agent or wouldn't have gotten past figuring out how to get to St. Jean. I too didn't know why I was going but the Camino was calling to me. The first night I hid in hotel room terrified. Yet, the second day my whole life changed. A joyous feeling that I belonged filled me for the first time in my life. And each day got better. My name is Sharon and I will be walking the Camino for the fourth time starting end of May this year and perhaps we can meet. As for your fear s the Camino will provide. I met a woman whose back started to hurt so she used the backpack transport service. And a person can walk as little or much as they want because most sections pass though several villages.
    It is believed that a pilgrimage is a chance to redo your life. I would ask myself was there a similar situation in the past that you took a chance and you were disappointed. Walking the Camino you will meet many wonderful people and someone exactly like your self. I say give it a try and let the Camino magic change your life.
     
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    "It's a dangerous business,Frodo, going out of your door. you step into the road, and if you don't keep your feet, there is no knowing where you might be swept off to." Bilbo and Frodo were also apprehensive, but they went anyway. Hey, you're going on an adventure! If you don't go, you will forever regret it. Go anyway.
     
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    If you don't do it. . . for the rest of your life, you will remember it. . . you will wonder what you missed.
    Do whatever it takes. . . . do however long it takes. . . give it a chance, give you a chance. If not now. . .when??
    I have done three Caminos. I have 2 artificial knees. I am starting the Portuguese Camino April 19, 2017. I am 84 years old. I never want to die and find out I never lived! Buen Camino!!
     
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    2015 Geneva, Le Puy-en-Velay, SJPD, Hendaye, Camino North , Santiago, Finisterre, Muxia, all in 70 days.
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    (2017) (God willing, pilgrimage Apostle to Apostle ) Proceno or Acqupendente, Rome, SJPD, CF, SdC, Fisterre, Muxia

    I feel the same as you but I don't care, I'm all broken, very old, but on the 30th I live home for my long (God willing) pilgrimage, is going to be over 3000 Km, I will take like usual every day as it come, my plan is to finish it and with the help of James I WILL DO IT !!!!!!
    So cam on Mrs Bath and buen camino.
     
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    So let's talk reality! Every person for the most part has the same feelings as you. Can I do this! The answer is yes because each Camino is unique and personal. If you reach a stage that you see as too difficult then hop a bus or taxi and bypass it. You will still get your credencial when you arrive in Santiago. There is no asterisk on the document that says you didn't travel all the way by foot.

    I remember when leaving Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port and thinking to myself," are some of these people going to make it.' Why? Because many were overweight, old and didn't look in the best of shape. Was I wrong. When I got to Santiago there I saw many of those folks on the steps in front of the cathedral. In fact many of the young people I met who tried to walk too far and too fast, fell by the wayside. Like U.S. President Coolidge said, "Nothing succeeds like persistence."

    As you travel you will meet and befriend fellow pilgrims. Probably you will find someone with the same apprehensions as you and a fellow tortoise . When I walk the Camino, I jokingly call myself Torturro. Meaning I walk like a tortoise and carry like a burro. And talking about carrying, you shouldn't be carrying more than the bare essentials.....no sleeping bag.....no food supplies other than some energy bars. Water is your most important thing to carry and probably your heaviest item. Some essentials are hiking poles, a poncho and some flip flops for apres Camino in the aubergue. You need to air out those feet after a day on the trail.

    When I did my Camino I first visited France for over a week. I had a lot of clothes with me that I didn't need on the trail. So I boxed them up and mailed them ahead to Santiago. They were there waiting for me when I arrived. Don't bring books to read or unnecessary things. Stick to the essentials!

    You will be traveling at a good time. The Camino will be decorated with the spring flowers.

    One last thought! You will be in the worst shape your first week as you stretch those unused muscles. But then something magical will happen. You will shed weight and your muscles will strengthen and voila each day will become less difficult. In fact when you reach Santiago you will be addicted to the trail You will not want to have the adventure over. That's why many continue on Finesterre. It's like going to college....you don't want to leave and go back to the real world.

    Be strong, believe in yourself and you will be rewarded with bear hugs and buen caminos from the many new fiends you will make along the route of St. James
    when you arrive in Santiago. Santiago will be a fiesta after your long walk. Jack DSCN1111.JPG
     
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    You gotta remember, walking the Camino isn't life or death. It's not a career change. It's not a relationship change, or loss. It's not a job. It's simply walking. For some a week, others a month or so. There's nothing austere about it, and unless you brain fart and plunge into the Pyrenees in the middle of a snowstorm, there's nothing dangerous about it. It's not scary at all, and if ain't your thing you can always go home. Anywhere along the Camino you can stop walking, get a bus, cab, train or whatever and go home.
    Just about everyone in the entire world would look upon walking the Camino as going off on holiday, and it is a holiday. If you ain't working, you are either retired or on holiday.
    If somebody gave me a free round trip ticket to Madrid to walk the CF for say, tomorrow? Oh yeah, I'm on it. Give me about 15-20 minutes to put a pack together. No problem.
     
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    I have not departed from my trek yet this is my first Camino. I will start walking from Saint Jean on June 14th. I have been a solo traveler for over 10 years now, every time I plan a trip, weather it be backpacking, camping, or just a regular vacation. I go through the same thoughts every time and sometimes for the first day or on shorter trips the first few hours. Most of us do not set out on our own for long periods of time. I over come this feeling through planning and reviewing what I need to take with me. I also walk through a plan for the entire trip with the thought that ok that would be the perfect nothing goes wrong trip . This way I have a image in my mind of how I want things to go, knowing that wont be the case. This way I now can adjust as things change on the trip. I know I will start this trip alone I expect to walk this trip alone as far as I can go or all the way to Santiago. Will I walk the whole thing alone probably not, will I make the whole trip I don't know, why am I doing this trek I think I know but I may not. We all have a fear of the unknown. Trips like this change people and have been changing people for centuries. Will you enjoy this, will I enjoy this, I cant tell you that. What I can tell you is that you have already started the journey when you decided to try it, it is already changing you are already traveling. I tell my 5th grade students you will never fail if you try you will only learn. Buen Camino
     
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    My wife and I walked the Camino Frances last fall. We caught up with someone who had started about a week before us but had been forced to take some time off due to tendonitis. She walked when she could and took buses when necessary, and was ultimately obliged to take a train all the way from Leon to Sarria. Still, she would tell you she had a wonderful Camino experience. To be a pilgrim, it is not necessary to carry your pack every day and walk every step.
     
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    Check out Gaudi's El Capricho in Comillas. It is a restaurant but was closed when I visited last. Also check out Feve. a narrow gauge railroad that travlels parallel with the coast of Cantabria and Asturias. upload_2017-3-25_13-20-23.png
     
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    Gather your thoughts, just like I am now as I write this to support you.

    None of us are getting younger. What you can do now, might not be possible next year. That is life.

    It is really down to one thing. Go and do it or stay home. I know you will not regret walking the Camino. What will you feel in your heart if you stay at home? I was only able to do 3 days, but I did 3 days. Now, I know exactly what I need to do to be able to do the other 31 to 40 days. Consider the alternative.

    If you need a personal challenge, I recommend the Valcarlos route, (unless you really want the challenge of the Napoleon Route), and walk three days. In the morning of the fourth day, ask yourself, "Can I walk another day or do I need to rest?" Greet each day the same way, a day at a time.

    Finally, Mrs. Bath, ask yourslef one last question, "Where is the wisdom?" Is it wise to saty home or is it wise to go?

    Buen Camino
     
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    "Consult not your fears but your hopes and your dreams. Think not about your frustrations, but about your unfulfilled potential. Concern yourself not with what you tried and failed in, but with what it is still possible for you to do."
    Pope John XXIII
     
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    Just go for it , it is going to be a life experience not to be missed.
    If you still have any doubts about walking it have you considered biking it.
    I'm going on my first camino , starting Friday 7th April, told everyone l known that l'm doing it and convinced myself that it will do me good and l will gain a lot from the experience, the way l feel now l can't not do it (even if l only get from SJPD to Pamplona lol) anyway if you don't succeed first time you can always try again, l wish you every success in whatever you decide.
    Buen camino
     
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    Thank you for sharing this Mick. We will think of you and your commemoration of our soldiers when we walk in France in May/June.
     

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