- Camino(s) past & future
July/August 2017 - Astorga to Finesterre
July/August 2020 - SJPP to Santiago
July 21st or June 21st? For the ending of quarantines?
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I've realized this, but was surprised to read this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/geoffw...-heres-the-latest-for-june-2020/#9aba349aafa4Unfortunately until the pandemic is under control there, it is unlikely anyone will be thrilled at the prospect of letting Americans in.
Yes, I heard this on the new yesterday.Spain has announced that travelers from the UK will not be required to go into quarantine.
The borders are officially opening at midnight between Sunday and Monday, but in practice Monday will be a bit of a transitional day at the land borders, and Tuesday is the first full free open borders day.
This is confirmation that people who are not showing overt symptoms can spread the disease. We could all be super spreaders, walking from village to village. For those who know first-hand what this virus can do, it's a horrifying thought.I'd love to be proven wrong actually.
Given the proportion of new cases in Greece who are asymptomatic, I had always thought it unlikely they were all directly infected by symptomatic cases.This is confirmation that people who are not showing overt symptoms can spread the disease. We could all be super spreaders, walking from village to village. For those who know first-hand what this virus can do, it's a horrifying thought.
After reading your analysis, I am not sure what conclusion you are referring to. Is it what VN says?...I'd love to be proven wrong actually.
I agree that is an apparent conclusion, but it could be a good thing in that many people have antibodies (and contribute to potential herd immunity) without knowing they'd had it, and a bad thing in terms of asymptomatic transmission. It is important to understand both.This is confirmation that people who are not showing overt symptoms can spread the disease.
This is a theory that I haven't heard before, and I'm not sure how it relates to the study Kathar1ina refers to.there is a significant % of the population with a cross-resistance from previous infections with other coronaviruses -- and thing is, people in that situation simply do not develop antibodies, despite not getting the disease. It is unadvisable from that basis to speculate.
When I looked at the numbers - 600 persons tested positive on antibodies, which means that they had been infected, and of those only 90 persons had been confirmed as infected while they carried the virus versus 510 infected persons without such a confirmation by a PCR test while they had the virus, I thought I must have made a calculation mistake because 510:90 is surprisingly high. Since then, I've also watched an hour long press conference and presentation given by the Innsbruck researchers/virologists and thought a bit more about it all.what conclusion you are referring to
Diane, looks like your plan will be on hold as the US, along with Brazil and Russia, are among countries being considered to NOT be able to travel to the EU. I am also from the US and had planned to walk the Le Puy route in the fall. Given the US COVID-19 trend, I am not hopeful. Buen camino.My plan was to begin walking from Saint Jean Pied de Port on July 14th. While I've been hopeful, I've been holding this all so loosely. I'll continue to hold it so, as I know things can change quickly, but this does seem to side favorably for my summer Camino - right?
I know. :-( SOOOOO sad.Diane, looks like your plan will be on hold as the US, along with Brazil and Russia, are among countries being considered to NOT be able to travel to the EU. I am also from the US and had planned to walk the Le Puy route in the fall. Given the US COVID-19 trend, I am not hopeful. Buen camino.
The EU is banning travellers from the USA and from about 160 other countries ... looks like the USA is not particularly unique . Plus, of course, I think the USA is still banning European travellers?The EU will be banning American travelers when they open the borders on 1 July.
Good news but for the fact Australians are currently not allowed to travel outside of Australia without having a very good reason. (Still correct?)The list of countries that one will be able to travel into the EU from, in addition to EU + Schengen travel area + UK, from 1st July onwards is as follows :
Australia, Canada, South Korea, Japan, New Zealand, Rwanda, Thailand, Uruguay, Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Georgia, Montenegro, Serbia.
Whether the EU lets people from Australia come here is independent of whether Australia will let Australians travel abroad, but thank you for the clarification.Good news but for the fact Australians are currently not allowed to travel outside of Australia without having a very good reason. (Still correct?)
You are correct, of course. I’ve been reading excessive amounts of Regency era novels, in which hyperbolic expressions of politeness abound. I was caught up in my gladness to be inching towards another camino.There is nothing about kindness in the decision about which countries to include or exclude at this time, nor should there be!
A kindly political gesture that's been planned over nearly a month, and whilst the Way between Badajoz and Elvas is a very tertiary one from our silly Pilgrim points of view, it's a more important one than might appear at first glance as not only is each town historically and culturally attached to each other country (many in Elvas are "Spanish" ; many in Badajoz are "Portuguese"), which created some local conflicts during the 20th Century ; but crossing the border between those two towns is probably the most sensible and most culturally meaningful route for those Pilgrims starting northwards along the Via de la Plata from the South Coast, and yet desirous of a detour via Fatima towards Compostela.A king, two prime ministers and a president at a ceremony to mark today's reopening of the Spanish-Portuguese land border. Maybe that's a message that merits to be spread to other parts of our world: government leaders and kings and queens do wear face masks.
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Yes, @SYates posted about how to participate in this campaignEl Correo Gallego has a short article today about John Rafferty who many will know under his nom de plume of Johnnie Walker. The article mentions his initiative Volveremos - Dear Way, we will return, an appeal to people from around the world to send emails to media outlets in Spain to let them know that they care for the people of Spain and the Camino and another project of walking from Saint Jean Pied de Port to Santiago this August to carry the wishes and prayers of those pilgrims who cannot come to Spain this year.
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And, here on Vancouver Island, people are freaking out at seeing the many US license plates on vehicles. Sorry, folks, if you have to take a ferry here, it is NOT on the road up to Alaska!It’s very kind of the EU to include Canada in the list of welcome nations. Warms the cockles of my heart.
Sadly, we are still advised to not travel, which means no insurance coverage, and our borders remain essentially closed to all non-essential travel. We have chairs propped up against the doors...
Happy Canada Day to my fellow Canucks!
Do you have sources for this?There are some reports that either :
a) As many as twice the number of those with Covid19 antibodies may have cross-resistance from previous coronavirus infections
b) Twice the number of those known to be resistant to Covid19 from antibodies may have resistance to it by either those antibodies, or by cross-resistance from previous coronavirus infections
The UK Government officially published the list yesterday, so most British media.Do you have sources for this?
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