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Fatima > Santiago > Francès > SJPP > Lourdes - Summer 2017

Discussion in 'Other Pilgrimage Routes' started by JabbaPapa, Feb 23, 2017.

  1. JabbaPapa

    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    After a lengthy bout of illness that put this project into doubt (my initial plan was : 2016), it seems to suddenly have started to materialise.

    Today, for the first time since Autumn 2015 I was able to get some actual hiking done without dire consequences of pain (5k semi-mountainous semi-tarmac terrain) -- and on Monday, I learned that my time limit for the Camino is finishing in early September at the latest (or postpone another year), so starting in late May at the earliest.

    The precise time constraints are actually better encouragement than the physical/health improvements -- procrastination has been removed from the equation, so that either I do it or I don't. This clarity is valuable.

    It'll be hard to work out a decent training regimen and hiking routes -- an Alp is not a good place for long-distance hikers to get any of our own stuff done properly.

    Things are easier closer to the Monaco and Italian borders though, so maybe I'll look that way -- but there are some other possibilities.

    I'm very happy that I might actually be able to manage this, with the Blessings of the Apostle and Our Lady Saint Mary to ask for.
     
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    cher99840 Veteran Member Donating Member

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    Wonderful news. I hope the training goes well. Buen Camino.
     
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    Godspeed you, pilgrim!
    Buen camino!
     
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    C clearly Veteran Member Donating Member

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    Keep us posted of your preparations and progress! Buen camino!
     
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  5. JabbaPapa

    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    Thanks, but it's likely I won't be posting much here from the Camino IF I manage to get it done -- experience shows I have a strong tendency to vanish from the internet when I'm walking.

    I will write about the progress of preparations though ... :)
     
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  6. JabbaPapa

    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    I'm not sure why this has been moved to "other pilgrimage routes" -- I'll be following the Francès for about 2/3rds of the Way ...
     
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    nathanael Entering Zamora..Camino de la Plata.

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    I also vanish from the internet when I do the Camino and another thing I refrain from is a cell phone. I refuse to have one when I do the Camino and do not reserve. I take my chances and hope and trust in divine providence. buen Camino to all see you June 2 starting in Leon where I left off last year.
     
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  8. JabbaPapa

    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    I may very well meet you along the Way !!! :cool:
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    I have a strong feeling that this is happening.

    And possibly this time, pre-Camino training is less important than organisation and dieting.

    I've been on a steak diet for the past two months or so, which basically involves in my case steak and greens and liquids plus various liquids, plus whatever I need once a week or so when that's not enough, and I am shedding weight, slowly, and gaining muscle mass, slowly too.

    And organisationally, currently I need to sort out all sorts of passport and other documents and health insurance and "enough medicine for three months" hassles. I'm realising how much more important these things are now than they used to be even two years ago, let alone in the 20th Century, though if I still had the health of my youth and proper travel documents, I'd just up and get going next week or something. :rolleyes:

    I live along the pilgrim Way between Santiago (and Lourdes) and Rome, and the pilgrims and ex-pilgrims that I sometimes simply bump into by accident are certainly helpful.
     
  10. JabbaPapa

    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    Every week, some degree of the natural reticence against such a mad project just dissolves.

    Of course, I have my motives to keep back instead -- but they're no longer a significant worry, and I'm prepared again, if necessary, to just set out one more time penniless and on dubious knees
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    Oh well -- I may need to postpone this again, to 2018 ...
     
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    Kanga Moderator Staff Member Donating Member

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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    Well Kanga, I took my first lengthier training hike on flat surface on Tuesday, just about 8k, and I've had over 36 hours of ghastly debilitating pain since -- and if I miss the May starting window, if my body isn't up to it yet, then the rest of the year will just be borked because of unrelated commitments from September onwards

    I'm not ruling it out yet ; a lot can happen in a short time ; and I suppose there's still a possibility in November or something -- but unless I can get my body into being at least 10k-capable shape at the start, I won't be capable of making even the trip there to do so :(

    EDIT : although I suppose I can't rule out starting in June ...
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    I already have a traditional BLACK woollen Pilgrim Cape.

    Coming home this evening, I discovered a BLACK woollen Pilgrim Cape before my front door.

    It's crazy.

    Such gifts cannot be ignored.
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    I do wish that God would sometimes just now and then be slightly less annoying towards me.

    But well, Love is never easy.

    None of this belongs to my original plans.
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    I do think that I may very well just bung some stuff in my backpack and go.

    My knees and ankles are hell and it'll be murder, finances are a bad joke, and etc -- but everyone who knows or trusts me is telling me either to trust my gut, or to pray, or that I now MUST do this ...

    And there have been so many Marian and Jacobite Signs that they're impossible to ignore -- not honestly anyway.

    ---

    I DO anyway now have an identical replacement for my cool sleeping bag that was stolen from me back in the late 90s ... :cool: :p :rolleyes:
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    My godfather has suggested that I should walk all of the way home instead of thinking about finishing at Lourdes.
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    Well, just made my phone call about obtaining a credencial <sigh>
     
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    One step at a time . . . .
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    It's 7 credencials plus my bottle of glue -- I wasn't planning for a 2400K Camino, but this one step at a time thing is looking more and more real
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    It would be nice if people were to take me as I am, but they don't, or just to consider me with honest good will, as sometimes you do.

    The beauty of this forum should be in the random encounter with someone strange. As on the Camino.

    My love for every pilgrim is unconditional.

    ----

    This pilgrimage is dead for this year, though I have a strong feeling that somehow I'll get it done.

    When, how, I haven't the foggiest.

    I wish that the Graces of the Way will be in the centre of our desire.
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    I wish this were simpler ...

    The physical handicap is probably the worst, though my desire to overcome it is co-material with my desire to do another Camino, to do this Camino.

    Though the chronic depression doesn't exactly help either

    Being a "purist" though, and a "true pilgrim" (whatever that means) just adds some extra layers of difficulty and not much help besides.

    I can't "cheat" 'cos I'm a "purist" :p ; I can't approach this except as a totality because I'm a "true pilgrim" :rolleyes:

    It's everything or nothing.

    phew ! sometimes I wish I were still as callow to the meanings and purposes of the Way as I was in '93 ... not really of course, so maybe all I'm regretting is my youth ? LOL

    Realistically, this is a year's training --- it's what I needed last time ; but it's also a year's acclimatisation to pain

    pah !! so it's not so simpler

    It remains a beautiful itinerary that I continue to dream of
     
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    Instead of a year's training - why not training on the way and walking really short stages the first weeks? Buen Camino, SY

    PS Depression gets better with walking in my personal experience - but that you know already, I guess.
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    That was the plan, but it's ruined by the fact that any significant day's hiking is causing me at least 2-3 days of serious pain.

    I mean sure, with unlimited time and funds and magic absence of responsibilities I could probably go ahead, but that's unsurprisingly not the case.
     
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    SYates Camino Fossil AD 1999 Donating Member

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    And what about doing insignificant days of hiking/distance in the beginning?

    We have all the time - until we die - then we have an eternity.
    We need also to eat at home, so a frugal camino isn't necessarily more expensive than staying at home.
    Responsibilities - yes, they can put a stopper to plans!

    Buen Camino, SY
     
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    JabbaPapa "True Pilgrim"

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    It's so beautiful to live on (or currently next to) the Camino, even 2000K from Compostela -- I had a lovely "buen Camino" this afternoon from one of the volunteers in the local pilgrim office, who happened to be lunching with his wife down here, and from my responses to them it still seems clear to me somehow I'll get this done -- it's just not possible now til next year at earliest, even IF I can manage to sort the physical health problems and etc.
     
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