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From Logroño and walk for 7 days; where to stop?

Pelen

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CF (2018 SJPdP-Logroño)
(2020 Logroño-)
Finally I am planning my next part of the Camino Frances and this time I will walk alone.

I have 7 days to walk and I need to be able to travel to and from Madrid if possible (much more expensive and longer trips to fly to Norway from the airports by the coast).

To Logroño from Madrid I can take the train. As far as I can see it is going trains from Fromista as well. Is this trip, 185 km, to long for 7 days? Are there some other villages after Burgos with great (or at least not to bad) bus or train communication with Madrid or other places with airport?
 

David Tallan

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Frances (1989 and 2016), Portugues - from Porto (2018)
Finally I am planning my next part of the Camino Frances and this time I will walk alone.

I have 7 days to walk and I need to be able to travel to and from Madrid if possible (much more expensive and longer trips to fly to Norway from the airports by the coast).

To Logroño from Madrid I can take the train. As far as I can see it is going trains from Fromista as well. Is this trip, 185 km, to long for 7 days? Are there some other villages after Burgos with great (or at least not to bad) bus or train communication with Madrid or other places with airport?
It depends on how far you can walk in a day. If this is your first Camino, 185 km might be a bit ambitious for 7 days. On my first Camino we averaged 20 km a day. My first thought is Burgos. If you get there a day or two before your week is up, there is plenty to see and enjoy there. If you find that you can really walk far day after day, you could push on to Castrojeriz or Fromista.

If this isn't your first Camino, you have a better idea than we do how far you are capable of walking.
 

Donjek

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2012 SJPdP - Fisterra
Castrojeriz has bus service to Burgos. Autobuses Amaya and Soto y Alonso. Once daily. The Amaya bus terminates/starts at Fromista. There is no service to any other camino villages after Burgos and before Fromista.

I can't get the Amaya website to work. The Burgos bus station site only shows timings inbound. You might want to check government website for Castrojeriz (if such exists) where times might be published.

 

Pelen

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Camino(s) past & future
CF (2018 SJPdP-Logroño)
(2020 Logroño-)
It depends on how far you can walk in a day. If this is your first Camino, 185 km might be a bit ambitious for 7 days. On my first Camino we averaged 20 km a day. My first thought is Burgos. If you get there a day or two before your week is up, there is plenty to see and enjoy there. If you find that you can really walk far day after day, you could push on to Castrojeriz or Fromista.

If this isn't your first Camino, you have a better idea than we do how far you are capable of walking.
I have walked from SJPdP to Logroño and are used to walk in the Norwegian mountains. I have a family at home and I am more interested in walking as much as possible when I am traveling alone. It feels like a better use of the days compared to stay at one place (the rest of the family doesn't appreciate walking long distance, they prefer to run or travel in other ways :D ).

Maybe I can start walking and see where I end up, if it is not needed to prebook transportation. I can also take taxi if needed and not to expensive. This would be in the beginning of May or in the beginning of June.

But I might do it complicated for myself the next time when I should continue, then it is easier to start in Burgos.
 
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Kathar1na

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I can't get the Amaya website to work. The Burgos bus station site only shows timings inbound. You might want to check government website for Castrojeriz (if such exists) where times might be published.
A website with timetables and an overview for the bus line Burgos-Castrojeriz-Fromista is here: https://autobusesamaya.wordpress.com/las-rutas/castrojeriz/. It hasn't been updated since 2017 but I think the departure and arrival times don't change.

@Pelen, I've travelled between Madrid and Fromista, and between Madrid and Burgos, and that is reasonably easy and fast. From any location on the CF between Burgos and Fromista, it's either this bus or a taxi to one of the two endpoints when you want to stop walking. I don't know how easy it is to get a taxi the further you move westwards and away from Burgos, though. You could also consider the possibility of walking from your last location on the CF to a location on the bus line. A forum member did this not too long ago.

Autobus Amaya.jpg
 
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Pelen

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(2020 Logroño-)
Now I have a preliminary plan, I will try to book flight tickets this week when they are less exepensive. The thing is that I try to not be away from my family to much and in the same time walk as long as possible.

- Friday after work: Flight from Norway to Madrid. Landing 23.30. Train to the main station and hotel

- Saturday morning: Train to Logrono at 07.30. Arriving 11.23 (if the schedule will not change).

- Saturday: Walk 18,5 km to Ventosa where I have prebooked room (because I will arrive "late").

- Sunday-Friday: Walk 148,6 km on 6 days = average of 24,7 km/day (one km more than last time I walked and that should be no problems if I am not getting injured or something like that).

- Friday afternoon: Travel from Castrojeriz either to Fromista og Burgos by bus or taxi and take the evening train back to Madrid. The train leaves 19.33 from Burgos and 18.22 from Fromista (time table right now). Maybe I can pay to take a shower somewhere as well before taking the train. Take train to the airport and stay in hotel at the airport.

- Saturday morning: 06.10 fly back to Norway. Back at home right after lunch and my family is happy. :)

This should be possible, don't you think?
 

André2112

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Camino Frances + Finesterre April/May (2018)
Camino Norte August (2020)
Thight scedule you have there, I got a little stressed just by reading your plan....

Lykke til, Buen Camino!
 

David Tallan

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Frances (1989 and 2016), Portugues - from Porto (2018)
Now I have a preliminary plan, I will try to book flight tickets this week when they are less exepensive. The thing is that I try to not be away from my family to much and in the same time walk as long as possible.

- Friday after work: Flight from Norway to Madrid. Landing 23.30. Train to the main station and hotel

- Saturday morning: Train to Logrono at 07.30. Arriving 11.23 (if the schedule will not change).

- Saturday: Walk 18,5 km to Ventosa where I have prebooked room (because I will arrive "late").

- Sunday-Friday: Walk 148,6 km on 6 days = average of 24,7 km/day (one km more than last time I walked and that should be no problems if I am not getting injured or something like that).

- Friday afternoon: Travel from Castrojeriz either to Fromista or Burgos by bus or taxi and take the evening train back to Madrid. The train leaves 19.33 from Burgos and 18.22 from Fromista (time table right now). Maybe I can pay to take a shower somewhere as well before taking the train. Take train to the airport and stay in hotel at the airport.

- Saturday morning: 06.10 fly back to Norway. Back at home right after lunch and my family is happy. :)

This should be possible, don't you think?
I think that if you previously walked from SJPP to Logrono at an average rate of 23.7 km per day and have been doing a modicum to keep yourself in shape, this should be doable. It is probably a good idea to ease yourself into it with a shorter walk on the first day to warm things up, which you have alotted. And, in general, Logrono to Castrojeriz is not as taxing as the Pyrenees so it isn't unreasonable to think you should be able to walk an extra one km each day.
 

henrythedog

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Finally I am planning my next part of the Camino Frances and this time I will walk alone.

I have 7 days to walk and I need to be able to travel to and from Madrid if possible (much more expensive and longer trips to fly to Norway from the airports by the coast).

To Logroño from Madrid I can take the train. As far as I can see it is going trains from Fromista as well. Is this trip, 185 km, to long for 7 days? Are there some other villages after Burgos with great (or at least not to bad) bus or train communication with Madrid or other places with airport?
Good plan.

Trains radiate out from Madrid. There is nowhere near Burgos connected to Madrid as well as Burgos.

I THINK the train Madrid to Logroño departs from Madrid Chamartin. You probably want to overnight very near there for an 0730 departure. Check your travel from the airport as you arrive late. A taxi might be the best option to save time.
 
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Hello Pelen,
From Frómista there is train and bus to Palencia, I think the train is about 9:30 am. in the morning and the bus shortly after. From Palencia to Madrid there is the AVE train, at 4:28 pm, 17,38h. and at 19.41h approximately. (If I am not mistaken, which may be, the schedules change from time to time).
Another possibility is also the taxi, it costs 39 euros and takes about 20 minutes.
If you are in Frómista and you have time to shower, you can do it in our albergue for free, also to leave the backpack and walk around the town until the train exit, the station is about 500 meters from the albergue (Luz de Frómista). It is not the first time that pilgrims ask us to just take a shower or leave the backpack for a few hours while waiting for the bus or train, we love that they do, my wife and I made our first Camino 22 years ago and we are pilgrims...

Do you know www.rome2rio.com? It is one of the best ways to plan trips.
 

Pelen

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CF (2018 SJPdP-Logroño)
(2020 Logroño-)
Thank you so much gmag! Then I know I have flexibility between Burgos and Fromista and that it is possible to stop walking on several places (and as well take a shower). Then I decide where to end when I am walking. So grateful for your answer!

And thanks for the link. I haven’t seen that.
 
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frances 1998, 2000, 2013
You're welcome Pelen, we will be happy to help you with whatever you need, whether in the albergue or information that we can give you for your Camino.
Very cordially,
Gabriel
 

Felipe

Veteran Member
You will be arriving very late to Madrid, Negotiating the connection from train to Metro, then walking to your hotel could be tiring and awkward. Not that Madrid be an unsafe city, but anyway...Maybe you can consider a taxi. I believe there is a flat tariff, 30 euros
Buen camino!
 

Pelen

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CF (2018 SJPdP-Logroño)
(2020 Logroño-)
You will be arriving very late to Madrid, Negotiating the connection from train to Metro, then walking to your hotel could be tiring and awkward. Not that Madrid be an unsafe city, but anyway...Maybe you can consider a taxi. I believe there is a flat tariff, 30 euros
Buen camino!
As far as I can see (when I check the trains now in January), the train to Logrono is leaving from MADRID-PUERTA DE ATOCHA. My plan is to take the train from the airport to Atocha and stay at a hotel close by Atocha.

On the other way from Palencia, most of the trains stops at MADRID-CHAMARTIN. Then I probably take a taxi to the airport because I probably will arrive late. I will then stay at a hostal or similar at the aiport and take the early flight back home.
 


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