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IndianaRod

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October 2020
I’m so sorry if this post is redundant. I have looked at several other threads for this information.
It appears to me there are Americans on the Camino right now. Am I right? If so, how did you get into France or Spain? I’m planning on starting from St. Jean in October. Everything I’m seeing online says travel from the US is restricted.
Can anyone offer insights?? Thank you so much. Rod
 

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Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
I had a friend who was due to fly to Spain in mid July. The flight was not officially cancelled, but after filling out the required forms imposed because of covid, was denied being able to travel.
 

C clearly

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Frances (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016), VDLP (2017), Mozarabe (2018), Vasco/Bayona (2019)
Sorry not to Canadians but I understand from friends there that they may not leave the county.
As far as I know, I am free to leave Canada, and there are flights available. There could be complications such as crossing some provincial borders by road, or the need to quarantine on return to the country, that would make it impractical for some people but that is a separate matter. I could get my husband to drive me 35 km to the airport and leave with no problem, as long as I wear a mask!
 

arthur1218

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Camino de Tortuga
Indeed, out of more than 30 countries of both Americas, only Canada and Uruguay have reciprocal agreement with EU and can travel to Spain and back home. The same with Australia, New Zealand and South Korea. The fact that your countries may not be happy for you to go to Europe is a different story, but you are welcome to Spain, or other EU/Schengen countries.

As we already know, those rules are very dynamic and can change from day to day. Spanish Ministry of Health just published the new infection data for the past weekend and the number of new cases grew by 16,269 over the weekend. It's a lot for Spain. Those adventurous Canadians who plan to arrive (soon) to Spain may want to take winter clothes with them, because they may get stuck in Spain for the duration of the entire second wave, which may last much longer than the first one, although the scientist say it shouldn't be nearly as lethal. 🐢

After all, who needs winter clothes in Sevilla! 🕺🌞 Just try not to get stuck in Monte de Gozo 😉
 

trecile

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I’m so sorry if this post is redundant. I have looked at several other threads for this information.
It appears to me there are Americans on the Camino right now. Am I right? If so, how did you get into France or Spain? I’m planning on starting from St. Jean in October. Everything I’m seeing online says travel from the US is restricted.
Can anyone offer insights?? Thank you so much. Rod
You'll need to be patient and wait. Consider the waiting period as a Camino in itself.
 

GraemeHall

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Francés 2017/18; Portugués 2019
Indeed, out of more than 30 countries of both Americas, only Canada and Uruguay have reciprocal agreement with EU and can travel to Spain and back home. The same with Australia, New Zealand and South Korea. The fact that your countries may not be happy for you to go to Europe is a different story, but you are welcome to Spain, or other EU/Schengen countries.

As we already know, those rules are very dynamic and can change from day to day. Spanish Ministry of Health just published the new infection data for the past weekend and the number of new cases grew by 16,269 over the weekend. It's a lot for Spain. Those adventurous Canadians who plan to arrive (soon) to Spain may want to take winter clothes with them, because they may get stuck in Spain for the duration of the entire second wave, which may last much longer than the first one, although the scientist say it shouldn't be nearly as lethal. 🐢

After all, who needs winter clothes in Sevilla! 🕺🌞 Just try not to get stuck in Monte de Gozo 😉
I think you'll find you are incorrect re Australia. Our international borders are closed in both directions, probably until at least January. (We are not banned from entering the EU, just can't leave home.)
 

arthur1218

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Camino de Tortuga
There's a list of presently 12 countries, beside the EU/Schengen countries, which passport allows you to enter Spain.
Those countries are: Australia, Canada, China, Georgia, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, United Kingdom, and Uruguay.

WHO CAN TRAVEL TO SPAIN

Edited: added UK and removed Morocco 🐢
 
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trecile

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Mexico is also part of North America, in case anyone forgot. 😊
Though I don't believe that they can enter the EU either.
 

Kathar1na

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To Santiago and beyond (from home; Voie de Tours; Camino Francés; Biskaya; Manche; Via Brabantica)
I wanted to make the point of not saying Americans because my Uruguayan friend always corrected me when I did, "we're Americans too 😉
Know your audience ;)!

Speakers of Spanish use the term norteamericano to denote a national of the USA, and therefore they may use the term North American in English in the same way. Except that native speakers of English have a different understanding of this term. For them, a North American is either a national of the USA or a national of Canada, usually.

It's similar to people saying Europe and meaning only the European Union or the European continent minus the British Isles, or people saying "I love America" and meaning only the USA.

There's even a Latin expression for such figures of speech. It's not pars pro toto, that's the opposite. 🤓
 

jsalt

Jill
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Portugués, Francés, LePuy, Rota Vicentina, Norte, Madrid, C2C, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés, Inglés
We are not banned from entering the EU, just can't leave home.
South Africans ARE banned from entering the EU, AND we can't leave home 😭🥺.
 
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There's a list of presently 12 countries, beside the EU/Schengen countries, which passport allows you to enter Spain.
Those countries are: Australia, Canada, China, Georgia, Japan, Morocco, New Zealand, Rwanda, South Korea, Thailand, Tunisia, and Uruguay.

WHO CAN TRAVEL TO SPAIN
I am not sure that this list is strictly correct.
As far as I am aware, UK passport holders are able to enter Spain (subject to some requirements) but the UK is no longer in the EU (and was never in Schengen).
The link has the same deficiency ; the UK needs to be added to that list also.
Of course, we now need to quarantine for 14 days when we return from Spain...
 

Kathar1na

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The link has the same deficiency; the UK needs to be added to that list also.
Well spotted ☺. And Morocco needs to be taken off the list in the link. About 10 days ago, the EU Council had already removed Morocco from their list of countries for which travel restrictions should be lifted, and as far as I know Spain had never lifted their Covid-19 related entry restrictions for residents of Morocco in the first place.

It's not easy to keep track of developments at the moment ...
 

JillGat

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Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia (May 2016)
C. Frances (Sept 2017)
Camino Portugues (June 2019)
Know your audience ;)!

Speakers of Spanish use the term norteamericano to denote a national of the USA, and therefore they may use the term North American in English in the same way. Except that native speakers of English have a different understanding of this term. For them, a North American is either a national of the USA or a national of Canada, usually.

It's similar to people saying Europe and meaning only the European Union or the European continent minus the British Isles, or people saying "I love America" and meaning only the USA.

There's even a Latin expression for such figures of speech. It's not pars pro toto, that's the opposite. 🤓
People in Spain call us norteamericanos, but Mexicans don't. They call us Estadounidenses (or Gringos!). People in South America are Sudamericanos (or Bolivianos, etc.). I'm not sure if Spanish include Canadians in the term norteamericanos, but I would think so.
 

RemysMimi

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Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2018)
Frances or Portuguese (2020)
Why does everything have to be a debate? Simple question.
 

witsendwv

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Camino(s) past & future
(2015)
People in Spain call us norteamericanos, but Mexicans don't. They call us Estadounidenses (or Gringos!). People in South America are Sudamericanos (or Bolivianos, etc.). I'm not sure if Spanish include Canadians in the term norteamericanos, but I would think so.
When we travel in Spain and are asked where we are from my response is always: Somos estadounidenses. The reaction is typically: Ah- americanos! We have never been referred to as norteamericanos. The response is usually followed by a question as to which state we are from- Oeste Virginia- Ah! Virginia, as apparently WV does not seem to be known. Unless we are in the Republic of Ireland, and then we are serenaded with: Almost Heaven........
 

witsendwv

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Camino(s) past & future
(2015)
People in Spain call us norteamericanos, but Mexicans don't. They call us Estadounidenses (or Gringos!). People in South America are Sudamericanos (or Bolivianos, etc.). I'm not sure if Spanish include Canadians in the term norteamericanos, but I would think so.
Please do do perpetuate the use of the derogatory Gringos.
 

C clearly

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Frances (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016), VDLP (2017), Mozarabe (2018), Vasco/Bayona (2019)
This discussion of how to refer to people from different countries has gone off topic. Let's not continue it here.
 
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