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Marique van Dyk

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Plan to walk (September 2019)
I'm walking the Camino in October and would like to get a small pocket wifi router with a Spanish simcard for data to use maps and the internet. Does anyone know where in Pamplona I get can a router and what the costs are?
 
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Hi, Marique, and a Warm Welcome to the Forum :)

I do not want to presume anything, so can you fill us in as to your decision to go with (I presume) a portable pocket router for maps - Versus - using a smartphone with an map app like Google maps, and then downloading offline maps of the locations you are traveling in?
 

andycohn

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF (12-15); Muxia (15); Portuguese, Primitivo (17); Norte, Ingles, VF partial (18), Le Puy (19)
Hi Marique: Echoing Dave, above, you don’t need what you apparently think you need — a router. If you have a smartphone, and you get a Spanish sim card, any general mapping app, such as google maps or maps.me, will show you your location. In fact, you don’t even need a sim card, because, as Dave suggests, both google maps and maps.me will let you download the maps you need (at a time when you have an internet connection) and then you can tell your location without a sim card or internet connection via the smartphone’s separate gps function. It’s real easy. Anyone even slightly internet savvy can show you how to do it.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Us:Camino Frances, 2015 Me:Catalan/Aragonese, 2019
"Mapas de España" of the IGN is free, with oficial maps, and works as GPS
I'm going to download this to see if it may be useful in addition to some other apps I have. At any rate here is Google's translation of the Play Store description.

Free viewer ideal for hiking, cycling, running or skiing, which uses as a background mapping the services of the National Geographic Institute and another set of services of other Ministries (Service Stations provided by the Ministry of Industry, the Cadastral information of the plots provided by the General Directorate of Cadastre, etc).

With this application you can explore the routes of the National Parks or the stages of the Camino de Santiago or use your TRACKS / ROUTES, plan excursions using maps, navigation and guided tours, without having to have internet connection
All the maps and routes that are used are free and allows you to:
- GPS location, even without mobile coverage
- Offline map mode *: save them in advance
- Trace routes (Tracks) with GPS on the maps of the National Geographic Institute.
- Save and view the tracks in gpx or kml and kmz format.
- Supports IGN WMS and WMTS map services, you can use the application as a WMS viewer
- Use the services of the CartoCiudad project to locate the places
- Positioning visualization by coordinates, heading, speed, altitude. Distance Calculation
- The application is in Spanish and English….
- Based on the OruxMaps software (version 6.5)
 

Jeff B

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2019
for a SIM card, you can buy that before you go - Amazon, or elsewhere. i think i've seen somewhere in the Camino Forum where the best coverage may be thru Orange or Vodafone.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
Why not just put a European SIM card in your phone? Why carry something extra?
 

evanlow

Veteran Member
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Frances06
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Plata08
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Levante(14-15)
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Routers needs to be returned. Logistically a problem unless rented at airports and such.Sim card will do.
 

JLWV

Jean-Luc
Camino(s) past & future
Levante (2014-2016); Levante to Toledo (2017-2018), to be continued; Fisterra & Muxia (2018);
GPS location, even without mobile coverage
Based on the OruxMaps software (version 6.5)
if you use this APP (the only one I use today), I recommend going to Configuration/sensors/GPS/minimum time which permits to define the time between GPS activation. This reduce significantly battery consumption. As we go slowly, the position does not need to be checked constantly.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Us:Camino Frances, 2015 Me:Catalan/Aragonese, 2019
"Mapas de España" of the IGN is free, with oficial maps, and works as GPS
I did download this and looked at it. In the simplest of cases I don't see where it is a problem to use but it does look like it can do complicated things; the PDF basic instruction manual ran to 93 pages in Spanish.

I was using Wikiloc the other day following some trails in Spain and I was able to use the Spanish government maps as the background map. If you (or anyone) knows why the Mapas app should be used instead of Wikiloc please let me know. With Mapas 93 pages of documentation there must be something fancy there.
 

Jeff Crawley

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Currently on a "Virtual" Camino and striding out across Castile y Leon!
I'm going to download this to see if it may be useful in addition to some other apps I have. At any rate here is Google's translation of the Play Store description.

Free viewer ideal for hiking, cycling, running or skiing, which uses as a background mapping the services of the National Geographic Institute and another set of services of other Ministries (Service Stations provided by the Ministry of Industry, the Cadastral information of the plots provided by the General Directorate of Cadastre, etc).

With this application you can explore the routes of the National Parks or the stages of the Camino de Santiago or use your TRACKS / ROUTES, plan excursions using maps, navigation and guided tours, without having to have internet connection
All the maps and routes that are used are free and allows you to:
- GPS location, even without mobile coverage
- Offline map mode *: save them in advance
- Trace routes (Tracks) with GPS on the maps of the National Geographic Institute.
- Save and view the tracks in gpx or kml and kmz format.
- Supports IGN WMS and WMTS map services, you can use the application as a WMS viewer
- Use the services of the CartoCiudad project to locate the places
- Positioning visualization by coordinates, heading, speed, altitude. Distance Calculation
- The application is in Spanish and English….
- Based on the OruxMaps software (version 6.5)
You missed out "stunningly beautiful cartography".
 

linkster

Nunca dejes de creer!
Camino(s) past & future
CF (17) Sarria - Portomarín
CF (17) SJPdP - SdC
CF (18) SJPdP - Fisterra
CP (19) Porto - Muxia
@Marique van Dyk I use maps.me. It requires you to download the map when you have access to the internet. Once downloaded you can use offline from the internet. I typically buy a prepaid SIM card for use when I travel. You may want to read about setting up a "hot spot' with your phone if you need internet access on another device.

¡Buena suerte! 👣 :D :cool:
 
Camino(s) past & future
Us:Camino Frances, 2015 Me:Catalan/Aragonese, 2019
Wikiloc can use the same base maps.
I've since come to my senses. Wikiloc will show the IGN maps only if online (and you selected IGN for the base maps). The offline map will look like the one below showing the same area around Elizondo.

The IGN app (Mapas de España) must allow downloads of the IGN maps because I saw a "Resume download" menu item but I haven't discovered the way to start a download. I suspect the menu item to "Show map index" would do this but for me it does absolutely nothing.

Screenshot_20190905-153432.png
 

mmmmartin

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Santander-SdC bici '14
Plata bici '17
1/2 Plata bici '18
Frances a pie '18
(Porto a pie '19)
Download Trailsmart app for about €8, you then download the Camino you will walk. There is a large choice of Caminos. It sits in your phone and you can call it up and it shows you where you are, a very detailed map and a red line showing where the Camino goes. No need for Wi-Fi or mobile data. Far better than Camino pilgrim. You may change your mind: there are several similar apps and you can sign in to the Wi-Fi at just about any decent albergue or restaurant and download a different app. I prefer to also purchase the Brierley book and tear out the page with the map for each day, then bin it at the end of the day.
 

linkster

Nunca dejes de creer!
Camino(s) past & future
CF (17) Sarria - Portomarín
CF (17) SJPdP - SdC
CF (18) SJPdP - Fisterra
CP (19) Porto - Muxia
I prefer to also purchase the Brierley book and tear out the page with the map for each day, then bin it at the end of the day.
@mmmmartin I scan the pages to PDF at home. I do this with all kinds of notes and resources. I put all of them on my phone (iBooks), so that I am not carrying any extra weight. I also upload them to Google Drive, so that I have a backup or resource to share.

¡Buena suerte! 👣 :D :cool:
 

mmmmartin

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Santander-SdC bici '14
Plata bici '17
1/2 Plata bici '18
Frances a pie '18
(Porto a pie '19)
Good idea to scan it and have it in your phone. You might like to print it on paper for those times when it's pouring with rain and you want to save your phone battery. Each to their own.
And I personally think it's A Good Thing to buy the Brierley guide after all the trouble he went to in researching and publishing it.
 

Galloglaigh

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Lycra tribe.
CF (2017/8), VF (2018/9), Old Way (2020), VFnS (2020), CP (rebooked) (2021), VdT (ToDo)
You might like to print it on paper for those times when it's pouring with rain and you want to save your phone battery.
Or when the touch screen is so wet you can't use it. Even with a "waterproof" cover.
 

Peregrinopaul

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
VdlP(2012) Madrid(2014)Frances(2015) VdlP(2016)
VdlP(2017)Madrid/Sanabres/Frances reverse(2018)
Personally, I hate Google Maps, and Apple Maps too. In broad daylight they’re impossible to read, because of the very slight contrast between roads and background. Easy to read the advertised businesses though.
 
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Personally, I hate Google Maps, and Apple Maps too. In broad daylight they’re impossible to read, because of the very slight contrast between roads and background. Easy to read the advertised businesses though.
I've not had this same issue; I do adjust the brightness level of the screen to compensate and that helps me.
 


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