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I've decided I can't win

Camino(s) past & future
Some but not all, and other routes too.
#1
Since my pilgrimage last year (CF) I have been planning to walk the VDLP in March 2018. I posted today on another thread about my wife not understanding my need to repeat another pilgrimage in Spain. I will add that my wife did join me in Sarria last year and we did the last section together.
Over lunch we were again discussing my walking again, when out of the blue she said, I wouldn't mind walking from Burgos to Leon with you. After explaining that this section is not on the VDLP, I've now changed the route I'm going to be walking.
Don't get me wrong I'm over the moon that she will experience what I experienced going across the Meseta.
I guess it doesn't really matter what route you take, after all it's a pilgrimage with the destination in the same place.
So no more planning required, already got the book and maps. Is it too early to start practice runs at packing?
 

KinkyOne

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
I'am not perfect, but I'm always myself!!!
#3
Since my pilgrimage last year (CF) I have been planning to walk the VDLP in March 2018. I posted today on another thread about my wife not understanding my need to repeat another pilgrimage in Spain. I will add that my wife did join me in Sarria last year and we did the last section together.
Over lunch we were again discussing my walking again, when out of the blue she said, I wouldn't mind walking from Burgos to Leon with you. After explaining that this section is not on the VDLP, I've now changed the route I'm going to be walking.
Don't get me wrong I'm over the moon that she will experience what I experienced going across the Meseta.
I guess it doesn't really matter what route you take, after all it's a pilgrimage with the destination in the same place.
So no more planning required, already got the book and maps. Is it too early to start practice runs at packing?
Well, I would say that's very nice. But if she (and obviously you too) likes flat terrain why not choose the flatest part of VdlP where she can join you as on CF? Or even why not choose Camino de Madrid which is as flat as Burgos-Leon stretch? OK, apart from Cercedilla-Segovia stage over Guadarrama ridge but your wife could take a train and wait for you in Segovia. Camino de Madrid is a bit longer and would be a new experience not just for your wife but also for you...

Just some food for thought ;)
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Francis, SJPDP-Santiago (May 2016) Via de la Plata, Sevilla-Santiago (Sept 2016), CM/CF 2018
#4
Wonderful that your wife wants to walk any part of the Camino! Who knows, after she does, she might want to trek another section or full one?

I completed the Camino Francis from SJPDP in June this year with my 23 year old daughter and my wife had no interest in going. I came back and had the Camino Blues, so I went back in September and trekked the CVDLP from Sevilla, with the full encouragement of my wife. I had a blog during both and my wife said she enjoyed following me. Now she has told me she'd like to trek the Francis, but not just parts of it, but the whole thing from SJPDP. I look forward to it!

So, take the Camino that you can with her, and plan the CVDLP later. By the way, the Plata is definitely very different and challenging, but a wonderful experience. You will love it!
 

Tia Valeria

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Pt Norte/Pmtvo 2010
C. Inglés 2011
C. Primitivo '12
Norte-C. de la Reina '13
C. do Mar-C. Inglés '15
#5
This sounds like our experience in many ways. I couldn't walk when Terry walked his first camino. Then we tried a section each of the Primitivo and Norte together before walking 'my' Camino Ingles, then again .........

So glad @Waka that your wife has chosen a section that calls to her, which you can help with having been there before. As Terry said being together made it very different so he was not repeating his walk even though it was through places he had already been.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Some but not all, and other routes too.
#6
Well, I would say that's very nice. But if she (and obviously you too) likes flat terrain why not choose the flatest part of VdlP where she can join you as on CF? Or even why not choose Camino de Madrid which is as flat as Burgos-Leon stretch? OK, apart from Cercedilla-Segovia stage over Guadarrama ridge but your wife could take a train and wait for you in Segovia. Camino de Madrid is a bit longer and would be a new experience not just for your wife but also for you...

Just some food for thought ;)
All very good ideas and they would work, but with my tales of the cathedral in Burgos and Leon she really wants to visit them. I guess I'll have to keep the VDLP for another year.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Some but not all, and other routes too.
#7
Wonderful that your wife wants to walk any part of the Camino! Who knows, after she does, she might want to trek another section or full one?

I completed the Camino Francis from SJPDP in June this year with my 23 year old daughter and my wife had no interest in going. I came back and had the Camino Blues, so I went back in September and trekked the CVDLP from Sevilla, with the full encouragement of my wife. I had a blog during both and my wife said she enjoyed following me. Now she has told me she'd like to trek the Francis, but not just parts of it, but the whole thing from SJPDP. I look forward to it!

So, take the Camino that you can with her, and plan the CVDLP later. By the way, the Plata is definitely very different and challenging, but a wonderful experience. You will love it!
We had a good time with the Last part of the CF last year, it was different walking together after I'd just walked 5 weeks on my own. The only difference with this time will be that my wife will have her bag sent on ahead.
After walking Hadrian's wall this year and carrying all our gear, I have been firmly told that it's the last time she can carry everything. We are getting on in years so it's perfectly acceptable that one of us will send gear ahead.
regarding a whole camino, I'm not to sure she's up for that at the moment unless it's the shorter ones.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances: September - October 2016
Porto > Santiago - April 2018
#10
I would say that you did win. While I am a first-time pilgrim this fall, I already feel sure that even if you walk the same path it will not be the same Camino. The people you meet as well as the places you find to sleep will be different, and of course, you will have your partner who is excited to see the great cathedrals. Buen Camino!
 
Camino(s) past & future
2013 Camino Frances SJPP / 2014 Camino Portugues / 2015 Camino Ingles / 2015 Hospitalero Training
2016 (fall) Camino Sanabre / Hospitalero?
#14
What wonderful choices you have. Another is to walk the VDLP to Leon, Bus to Burgos, join your wife and you continue on or not to Santiago or down to Zamora and the Sanabre to Santiago.

A short story, after walking this year my wife went to the Pilgrims office in need of a restroom. A gentleman there said "You must be a pilgrim to use the facilities" she simply pointed to her bandaged feet.
Ultreya........ Willy/Utah/USA
 

Kiwi-family

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Past: (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016)
Future (God-willing): Madrid, Salvador, Primitivo (2018)
#15
We'll, if I were you, I'd start telling wonderful tales about Pamplona.....and descriptions of the varied landscape between Pamplona and Burgos.....and before you know it you'll both be saying you just have to walk from Pamplona to Leon.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Mar 2010, May/Jun 2016, Sep 2011, 2012, Apr 2014, St Olav's Way 2018
#17
@Waka This is wonderful, but I would caution against trying to change her mind too much.

I found myself in a similar situation last year. A few years ago my wife walked the Milford Track in NZ with my granddaughter and me on the basis that I would never ask her to walk with me on the Camino. I guess you can imagine my surprise and joy when last year she came out and said she would walk the CF this year.

What slowly became obvious was the enormous amount of research she had put in to reach this point, and how firmly she had set her goals on this before revealing her decision to me. It became so much easier for us when I understood my goal was to be her aide and companion much more than an expert mentor or guide.

Tread warily, my friend. Do not spoil this wonderful opportunity.
 

JennyH94

Pilgrim in progress
Camino(s) past & future
The Frances from Pamplona and part VF, first-aid helper and hospitalera
#18
Waka, there are three ways of arguing with a woman .... none of them work.

Enjoy your Camino :)
Hi David -

I'm sitting here wondering if I can be brave enough to ask "What are the three ways of arguing with a woman"? ... Before making a complete idiot of myself here on the Forum I decided to consult Professor Google where I found pages of websites offering guidance for men relating to arguments with women, including from doctornerdlove, Illimitable Men and askmen.com ... no joy from those pages on the three ways! So, could you please put us all out of our misery (me particularly!) and let us know those three ways? :)

Whilst conducting my research I found a list of ways to win an argument with a woman ... here it is ;) :



Crikey you can have some fun on the Forum ! :D Thanks to Waka for starting the thread and Buen Camino to you and your peregrina, Waka.

Cheers - Jenny
 
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
St Olav/Francés ('16)
Baztanés/Francés ('17)
Ingles ('18)
#21
"What are the three ways of arguing with a woman"?
It's not just with women. The same goes in the other direction, too. Arguments between whichever gender you choose are always lose-lose. Respectful disagreements are another story.

Doug beautifully describes the kind of respect that's much more useful (italics mine):
What slowly became obvious was the enormous amount of research she had put in to reach this point, and how firmly she had set her goals on this before revealing her decision to me. It became so much easier for us when I understood my goal was to be her aide and companion much more than an expert mentor or guide.
Tread warily, my friend. Do not spoil this wonderful opportunity.
 

sillydoll

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
2002 CF: 2004 from Paris: 2006 VF: 2007 CF: 2009 Aragones, Ingles, Finisterre: 2011 X 2 on CF: 2013 'Caracoles': 2014 CF and Ingles 'Caracoles":2015 Logrono-Burgos (Hospitalero San Anton): 2016 La Douay to Aosta/San Gimignano to Rome:
#22
As you have both walked from Sarria, you could detour from Sarria to El Ferrol and walk the Camino Ingles to Santiago.
 

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