King's 1920 classic now online

[Peter Robins]

The University of Toronto has scanned their copy of Georgiana Goddard King's Way of St James onto the Internet Archive. You can read the 3 vols (yes, all 1700 pages) online or download them.
http://www.archive.org/details/wayofsai ... 01kinguoft
(substitute '1' with '2' or '3' for the other vols)

As an art historian her descriptions of the churches are very detailed and probably still perfectly usable, though the general research has moved on since then. I particularly enjoy the descriptions of her own travels, on foot, on horse/mule, and with the 'diligence'. The 1st chapter of vol 3 is a description of Santiago around St James Day in what I assume was the 1915 Holy Year.

I was hoping that the works on Romanesque sculpture by her fellow American academic, Arthur Kingsley Porter, would also be online, but haven't been able to find them.

 

[sillydoll]

When I frist read Walter Starkie's book I tried to find her book (he makes numerous references to her work) and found that only Vol3 was available. Do you have any suggestions why this might be?
You can buy it from Amazon and Textbookx in hardcover and paperback for about $50
(http://www.textbookx.com) It is cheaper from http://www.buy.com at about $30
and in the UK can you buy it at various places including http://www.shop.com for about £32

There is also a Blog devoted to her at: http://king-early-days.blogspot.com/200 ... -days.html

 

[Peter Robins]

the publisher's page is at http://www.kessinger.net/searchresults- ... 1432683349 - a facsimile edn by the looks of it. Vol 3 is the one that describes Santiago itself, which may be the reason.
AbeBooks lists a couple of 2nd-hand copies, 1 in Lancaster, the other in Madrid. Not cheap, but probably a fair price for that sort of thing.

I have met the fellow who maintains that blog - though quite a few years ago now.

 

[kathygpilgrim]

I was just in Santa Fe with Elyn Aviva (Following Milky Way, etc.) and her husband, Gary White (Pilgrim's Process Publishing) is currently getting ready to publish all three volumes. Vol. 1 should be ready in about 2-3 weeks from Amazon and the usual sources with Vol. 2 and 3 to follow with a week or so afterward.

The copyright has expired and the book is open to publishers. He has scanned in a clean copy of all three volumes (unlike the ones at the website) and bound the volumes in an easy to read format. And what a read it is...complete with GGKing's wonderful Victorian prose, her photographs and asute observations.

fyi, Vol. 3 is the index, appendix and notes section, while the first two are strictly her observations of over five years on the road in Spain. She wrote many articles on the romanesque and other architecture along the Way of St. James in Spain that were scholarly...this book benefits greatly from both her scholarship and her humor.

 

[William Marques]

Kathy

Please can you update this topic with the publishers details and the ISBN nos and prices etc that we need when they have published the volumes.

Will they be available through Amazon or other web based ordering site?

Great news.

William

 

[kathygpilgrim]

Here is the information you requested...(from the publisher)

The Way of Saint James, Vol. I by Georgiana Goddard King
978-0-9790909-2-9 pp. 484 $34.95

The Way of Saint James, Vol. II by Georgiana Goddard King
978-0-9790909-3-6 pp. 532 $38.95

The Way of Saint James, Vol. III by Georgiana Goddard King
978-0-9790909-4-3 pp. 700+ $45.95

The ISBNs have been assigned and LC numbers requested for volumes I and II, but volume III will have to wait for final determination on the number of pages. However, that will be the ISBN for volume III when it is assigned. All will be available on Amazon, but I find that they take about one month to get the listing up. Barnes & Noble website is a lot faster.

Best,

Gary White, publisher

Pilgrims Process, Inc.

 

[PILGRIMSPLAZA]

the publisher's page is at http://www.kessinger.net/searchresults- ... 1432683349 - a facsimile edn by the looks of it. Vol 3 is the one that describes Santiago itself, which may be the reason.
AbeBooks lists a couple of 2nd-hand copies, 1 in Lancaster, the other in Madrid. Not cheap, but probably a fair price for that sort of thing.

I have met the fellow who maintains that blog - though quite a few years ago now.

Hi Peter,
That copy in Madrid comes 'con camisa'; is that a dust jacket?
Greetings,
Geert

 

[Peter Robins]

yes, same as French chemise
http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/camisa

 

[PILGRIMSPLAZA]

yes, same as French chemise
http://dictionary.reverso.net/spanish-english/camisa

Thank you, Peter! Searching for a flip book of Arthur Kingsley Porter's work I just found an interesting and helpful article on different meanings of 'Gothic': "The word," writes Arthur Kingsley Porter, "first applied as an epithet of approbrium to all medieval buildings by the architects of the Renaissance, was given a technical meaning by De Caumont and the archaeologists of the nineteenth century, who employed it to distinguish buildings with pointed arches from those with round arches, which were called Romanesque." Some writers continue to refuse to use the word at all; Rickman prefers "English Architecture"; and Britton, "Christian Architecture." Dr. Albert G. Mackey says, "that Gothic architecture has therefore very justly been called 'The Architecture of Freemasonry;'" but of that more anon. http://www.freemasons-freemasonry.com/builder.html

 

[Peter Robins]

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_architecture - a good summary

Of course, if you want true 'gothic' architecture there are various visigothic churches in Spain.

 

[PILGRIMSPLAZA]

Pilgrimage is of all people, faiths, sferes and ages - for hunters, gatherers and smorgasbordians:

Good lead; thanks! And I found a few more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visigothic ... chitecture
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Juan_d ... de_Cerrato
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Categ ... chitecture

and a few more:
http://search.abaa.org/dbp2/book1394_2649.html - Porter, Arthur Kingsley. Spanish Romanesque sculpture. Reprint, 2 volumes in 1. Vol. I: 89 illustrations on plates 1-62, printed one side only, with captions on facing pages + [xv] + 132 + [1] pp. Vol. II: 134 illustrations on plates 63-160 + [xvi] + 91 + [1] pp. Extensive notes in both volumes; index to both volumes in volume II. - USD 70.00 - EUR 48.23

http://www.archive.org/details/romanesq ... 08portuoft - Romanesque sculpture of the pilgrimage roads (1923) - Author: Porter, Arthur Kingsley, 1883-1933 - Volume VIII (of X) Auvergne & Dauphine - v. 1. Text.-v. 2-10, plates: v. 2. Burgundy.-v. 3. Tuscany and Apulia.-v. 4. Aquitaine.-v. 5. Catalonia and Aragon.-v. 6. Castile, Asturias, Galicia.-v. 7. Western France.-v. 8. Auvergne and Dauphine.-v. 9. Provence.-v. 10. Ile-de-France - Flip Book, etc.

and I just found this for quick and easy browsing through all flat texts of The Way of Saint James:
http://elcaminosantiago.com/PDF/Way_of_ ... mes_01.txt - Volume I
http://elcaminosantiago.com/PDF/Way_of_ ... mes_02.txt - Volume II
http://elcaminosantiago.com/PDF/Way_of_ ... mes_03.txt - Volume III

 

[PILGRIMSPLAZA]

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_architecture - a good summary

Of course, if you want true 'gothic' architecture there are various visigothic churches in Spain.

Do you mean to say that gothic and visigothic are synonyms in church architecture in Spain?

 

[Peter Robins]

no, simply that the term 'gothic architecture', unlike Spain's Visigothic churches, has nothing to do with the Goths (for that matter, Romanesque has nothing to do with Romans, either ).

Spanish has two different words: 'gótico' for the architecture, 'godo' for the people. And according to my Spanish dictionary, 'godo' is used in S America as a pejorative word for a Spaniard

 

[PILGRIMSPLAZA]

Funny :wink:, 'pejorative' came back in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gothic_arc ... 2Gothic.22 “The term "Gothic", when applied to architecture, has nothing to do with the historical Goths. It was a pejorative term that came to be used as early as the 1530s by Giorgio Vasari to describe culture that was considered rude and barbaric.”
I’m beginning to see some more light now! Following your lead I found http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Go ... chitecture “The High Gothic arrives with all its strength through the Way of Saint James in the thirteenth century, with some of the most pure classical Gothic cathedrals, with German and French influence”
and another wonderful Flip Book with many illuminating pictures like The Tree of Architecture:
http://www.archive.org/details/historyo ... 00fletuoft A history of architecture on the comparative method (1905), Author: Fletcher, Banister, 1833-1899 > p424: "Santiago was a pilgrimage centre of more than national importance."

 

[Peter Robins]

I see vol I of AKP's magnum opus is on the Internet Archive now as well, scanned in a couple of weeks ago since my original post
http://www.archive.org/details/romanesq ... 01portuoft