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Maybe Levante for 2020, guidebook?

2020 Camino Guides

BeatriceKarjalainen

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Finished: See post signature.
Upcoming: Nothing planned
Is it still The Way of St. James from Valencia to Santiago GR 239. With case maps (last copies) (in English) from Asociación Amigos del Camino de Santiago de la Comunidad Valenciana, that is the best (only) guide available?

I'm aiming for a September/October Camino but if I get get my consultant assignment done I might be able to do a May/June camino instead.
 

ranthr

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Camino(s) past & future
C Frances 2005, 2007
Le Puy en Velay -SdC 2009
Via de la Plata 2011
gr 653 from Oloron to Puente la Reina 2012
Gr65 from le Puy to Figeac 2013
Irun to Santander 2013
Porto to SdC 2014
Astorga to SdC 2015
There is also an OUTDOOR guidebook in German that seemed ok to me when I thought about going there some years ago. I think these yellow guidebooks are updated every year. When I walked VdlP I learned that this guide was much better than the two I brought, and since then I have bought a lot of them in case of ....
 
Camino(s) past & future
2012 Lemovicensis + Francés;
2016 Podiensis + CdN + Fisterra;
2018 VdlP + Sanabrés + Muxia/Fisterra

peregrina2000

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The English version of the association's guide is very out of date. As others have said, they have moved everything over to the web, but it is in Spanish. It is amazingly complete, a great resource with historical and cultural information, and for the basic info like accommodation, no translation is needed. I have always wished I spoke German, though, because there seem to be guides for every remote camino you can think of. And competition -- I've heard lots of debates about the relative merits of the Yellow guides and the Red guides.

I think you will love this camino, Beatrice. Lots of castles and wide open spaces, and a few great mountain stages thrown in for good measure! Those first few days on asphalt are tedious, though. Buen camino, Laurie
 

he.panpub

Member
Camino(s) past & future
19 Levante, CP da Costa;18 Sagrès-Santiago;17 Torrès,Primitivo; 16 C Portugues ;15 CF; 14 Podensis
In 2019, I used a french guide "Le Chemin du Levant et le Camino Sanabrès" written by Gérard du Camino : https://www.amazon.fr/chemin-Levant...ywords=gérard+du+camino&qid=1581435157&sr=8-7
Some minor mistakes but useful for accommodation. The lengths of stages are not correct (often less than reality !).
See also the website of Pierre Swallus for Valencia-Zamora : http://www.verscompostelle.be/cocomlev.htm
For having an idea, go to my youtube channel : he.panpub
for Levante way :
for Sanabrès way :
 

BeatriceKarjalainen

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Camino(s) past & future
Finished: See post signature.
Upcoming: Nothing planned
The English version of the association's guide is very out of date. As others have said, they have moved everything over to the web, but it is in Spanish. It is amazingly complete, a great resource with historical and cultural information, and for the basic info like accommodation, no translation is needed. I have always wished I spoke German, though, because there seem to be guides for every remote camino you can think of. And competition -- I've heard lots of debates about the relative merits of the Yellow guides and the Red guides.

I think you will love this camino, Beatrice. Lots of castles and wide open spaces, and a few great mountain stages thrown in for good measure! Those first few days on asphalt are tedious, though. Buen camino, Laurie
Thanks. Sad to hear that they have moved it to the web. As I prefer on paper to write notes etc. I'm using digital tools at work all day and at the camino I want to be more analog.
 

BeatriceKarjalainen

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Finished: See post signature.
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In 2019, I used a french guide "Le Chemin du Levant et le Camino Sanabrès" written by Gérard du Camino : https://www.amazon.fr/chemin-Levant-Camino-Sanabria-Valencia/dp/2952870667/ref=sr_1_7?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=gérard+du+camino&qid=1581435157&sr=8-7
Some minor mistakes but useful for accommodation. The lengths of stages are not correct (often less than reality !).
See also the website of Pierre Swallus for Valencia-Zamora : http://www.verscompostelle.be/cocomlev.htm
For having an idea, go to my youtube channel : he.panpub
for Levante way :
for Sanabrès way :
Thanks will have a look at the guide and web site you mention. I don't understand a word in French though but I manage Spanish quite well. Will not look at the videos now as I prefer to have my first impression my self.
 

BeatriceKarjalainen

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I haven’t walked yet (leaving after Easter), but I’ve based my planning on the guide that is available on the Amigos’ website.
I have looked there but I really prefer a guide book that I can use without phone, computer and that allows me to add notes etc. Don't have to be stressed out when the phone can't be charged or as on my last camino, died for 3 days if not connected to an outlet. I can alway just take some of the info and add to a word document and print as a book myself.
 

Kiwi-family

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Camino(s) past & future
Past: (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018)-Frances, Baztan, San Salvador, Primitivo, Fisterra,VdlP, Madrid
@BeatriceKarjalainen I have done EXACTLY that for the Very Same Reasons. If you like I can send you my document - it's 32 pages of the walking instructions and condensed elevations. I also have a spreadsheet with the cheap accommodations, supermarket locations and my proposed staging (slower than yours I expect, but I include all places) That runs to another nine pages but could be shortened considerably by removing the notes from the likes of Laurie, BadPilgrim and KinkyOne (sssh don't tell them I said that)

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Kiwi-family

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Camino(s) past & future
Past: (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018)-Frances, Baztan, San Salvador, Primitivo, Fisterra,VdlP, Madrid
Here's the first page of my spreadsheet - not sure how useful it would be to you
notes in brown are copied directly from the forum - you can see they take a lot of space!
and I have a column to record my actual walk, and number of days walked (because when I was planning I wanted to make sure I walked at least 50 days - one for each year) - that could all go too.1581471098046.png
 

mark camilli

dandydon
Camino(s) past & future
Frances & Fini/Muxia 2016, Coastal Portuguese 2018, Fatima 2019, Mozarabe 2020
Hi, i copied your notes from the VDP this year ( I start next month) and was already considering doing the Levante next year, so if you could send me your notes and accomodation spread sheet I would be really grateful.

Mark
 

omar504

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016,2017,2018
In 2019, I used a french guide "Le Chemin du Levant et le Camino Sanabrès" written by Gérard du Camino : https://www.amazon.fr/chemin-Levant-Camino-Sanabria-Valencia/dp/2952870667/ref=sr_1_7?__mk_fr_FR=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&keywords=gérard+du+camino&qid=1581435157&sr=8-7
Some minor mistakes but useful for accommodation. The lengths of stages are not correct (often less than reality !).
See also the website of Pierre Swallus for Valencia-Zamora : http://www.verscompostelle.be/cocomlev.htm
For having an idea, go to my youtube channel : he.panpub
for Levante way :
for Sanabrès way :
Same one ive used several times updates on his website

eral times..updates available on his wrbsite
 

DonCamino

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2013 CF
2014 CN
2015 + 2016 VdlP
2017 CF + CN
2018 CP from Lisbon
2019 Salvador+Primitivo
If you like I can send you my document - it's 32 pages of the walking instructions and condensed elevations. I also have a spreadsheet with the cheap accommodations, supermarket locations and my proposed staging (slower than yours I expect, but I include all places)
Hi Rachael @Kiwi-family,

could you do me a biiig fafour and send me your document, please?

Would be so nice.

Thank you so much in advance.

DonCamino
 

Kiwi-family

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Past: (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018)-Frances, Baztan, San Salvador, Primitivo, Fisterra,VdlP, Madrid
@DonCamino and @mark camilli I've attached a PDF here - would someone be able to confirm whether this is in fact legal? I'd hate to be doing something I shouldn't and I'll delete it in a heartbeat if it contravenes some law.
 

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Albertagirl

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Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015); Ch. d'Arles: Oloron Ste Marie to Aragones; Frances (2016); V.d.l.P.; Sanabres (2017)
I am seriously considering walking the Levante this fall, in part because it seems to be a largely level route, so easier for the knee that is currently waiting for knee replacement surgery. As I have previously walked the VdlP, I might finish this year's walk in Zamora, or stop there and bus onward to closer to Santiago, depending on the state of my cranky joint and the closeness to my return flight. I have a couple of questions about the route. Is it practical for someone with a cranky joint to walk? What about bus service, if required? There has been some emphasis on threads about the Levante on a preference for walking in the spring. Is there any reason why an October/November camino is not desirable? What about walking shorter days (20-25 kms)? I would appreciate a copy of any text made to assist pilgrims in walking this route, as I do not find the online guide to be ideal.
I am in Mexico now, away from the icy Canadian winter and working at getting in shape to walk a camino. Buen camino to all of you looking forward to walking the Levante in the next few months.
 

mark camilli

dandydon
Camino(s) past & future
Frances & Fini/Muxia 2016, Coastal Portuguese 2018, Fatima 2019, Mozarabe 2020
Many, many thanks, already printed it out for next years camino, can I be cheeky and ask if you could you send me the accomodation spread sheet too.

Thanks, Mark
 

DonCamino

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2013 CF
2014 CN
2015 + 2016 VdlP
2017 CF + CN
2018 CP from Lisbon
2019 Salvador+Primitivo
Hello again, Rachael (@Kiwi-family),

muchismas gracias, thank you so much, mille grazie, danke schön!

This will help a lot for my Camino 2020, starting around April, 25.

DonCamino
 
Camino(s) past & future
2012 Lemovicensis + Francés;
2016 Podiensis + CdN + Fisterra;
2018 VdlP + Sanabrés + Muxia/Fisterra
would someone be able to confirm whether this is in fact legal?
@Kiwi-family
Simply said:
It´s legal if it is completly your work and no one else has rights on it.
If not (even in parts), you might offend copyright laws.
Except it is published under a so called Public Source License (such as GPL or CreativeCommons). Then a link to this license has to be published together with the work.

¡Ultreia!
 

Kiwi-family

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Camino(s) past & future
Past: (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018)-Frances, Baztan, San Salvador, Primitivo, Fisterra,VdlP, Madrid
Hello again, Rachael (@Kiwi-family),

muchismas gracias, thank you so much, mille grazie, danke schön!

This will help a lot for my Camino 2020, starting around April, 25.

DonCamino
Might see you on the road. I arrive in Spain on 21 April and have a couple of days in Valencia before making a slow start.
 

BeatriceKarjalainen

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@BeatriceKarjalainen I have done EXACTLY that for the Very Same Reasons. If you like I can send you my document - it's 32 pages of the walking instructions and condensed elevations. I also have a spreadsheet with the cheap accommodations, supermarket locations and my proposed staging (slower than yours I expect, but I include all places) That runs to another nine pages but could be shortened considerably by removing the notes from the likes of Laurie, BadPilgrim and KinkyOne (sssh don't tell them I said that)

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That would be lovely! beatrice.karjalainen@gmail.com Notes from the peers is always a bless to have.
 

DonCamino

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2013 CF
2014 CN
2015 + 2016 VdlP
2017 CF + CN
2018 CP from Lisbon
2019 Salvador+Primitivo
@Kiwi-family,

might it be possible to send me your spreadsheet too?

Thx a lot
DonCamino
 

Simon Shum

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances Oct 2013, Porto, San Salvador & Primitivo 2014. Norte 2016, VdLP & Via Francigena 2017
Hi @Kiwi-family,

might it be possible to send me your spreadsheet too? or be
tter yet, post it here like your walking instruction. I suspect there are other pilgrims like me that are planning to walk the Levante some time!
Thanks very much. Buen Camino!
 

Kiwi-family

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Past: (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018)-Frances, Baztan, San Salvador, Primitivo, Fisterra,VdlP, Madrid
Here's a PDF of my spreadsheet (including all the details that are useful to me but probably not you!) and the elevations and also the walking directions for the Invierno. Please note I tend to only include cheap accommodation options but there are many more. Feel free to use as you wish.
A PDF of walking directions for the Levante is further up in this thread. I'm in the process of checking with the Amigos if they are OK about it being here.

@Simon Shum - @DonCamino - @Albertagirl - @BeatriceKarjalainen - @mark camilli
 

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DonCamino

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2013 CF
2014 CN
2015 + 2016 VdlP
2017 CF + CN
2018 CP from Lisbon
2019 Salvador+Primitivo
That's so sweet of you @Rachael @Kiwi-family . I hope to meet you on the way to buy you the best red wine!
🙏 You're already the angel of my camino 2020.

Bon Camino4U
DonCamino
 

mark camilli

dandydon
Camino(s) past & future
Frances & Fini/Muxia 2016, Coastal Portuguese 2018, Fatima 2019, Mozarabe 2020
many , many thanks - I am due you a dram.

Mark
 

Simon Shum

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances Oct 2013, Porto, San Salvador & Primitivo 2014. Norte 2016, VdLP & Via Francigena 2017
Muchas muchas gracias! hope to see some of you in the camino in April/May, and I will also be able to use that for the Invierno and Muxia portions in Sept/Oct when we are walking the Olvidado and Invierno and Muxia!
Buen Camino!
 

OzAnnie

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
'Portuguese,Frances,Norte,Salvador/primitivo,Le puy, Inglés, CDM, Invierno, Fin/Mux, VDLP spring19
Here's a PDF of my spreadsheet (including all the details that are useful to me but probably not you!) and the elevations and also the walking directions for the Invierno. Please note I tend to only include cheap accommodation options but there are many more. Feel free to use as you wish.
A PDF of walking directions for the Levante is further up in this thread. I'm in the process of checking with the Amigos if they are OK about it being here.

@Simon Shum - @DonCamino - @Albertagirl - @BeatriceKarjalainen - @mark camilli
Hi Rachel
I’m in Toledo now and doing the quick back-flip on my proposed walk of partial via Francigena in Italy at this time.
I have been surfing all possibilities of things to to here in spain instead. Voila! I find your post here and I think ‘.. wow .. I am very grateful to find your translation and your spreadsheet.. I believe the section ‘Toledo to Zamora’ will suit me quite well.
once again I’m using your work !! another camino angel ....

Thankyou
Annie
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino de Santiago(2014)
Camino de Finisterre (2014-2015)
Camino del Norte (2015)
Camion de Portugues (2015)
@BeatriceKarjalainen I have done EXACTLY that for the Very Same Reasons. If you like I can send you my document - it's 32 pages of the walking instructions and condensed elevations. I also have a spreadsheet with the cheap accommodations, supermarket locations and my proposed staging (slower than yours I expect, but I include all places) That runs to another nine pages but could be shortened considerably by removing the notes from the likes of Laurie, BadPilgrim and KinkyOne (sssh don't tell them I said that)

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino de Santiago(2014)
Camino de Finisterre (2014-2015)
Camino del Norte (2015)
Camion de Portugues (2015)
Hello Kiwi Family!
I would love to have copy of you Camino Levante Guide!
 

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