English language alternatives to Gronze.com for planning Camino Portuguese in mid April

[Circle56]

We are thinking of Camino Portuguese in mid April. I had a look at Gronze.com. Does anyone know of a website that is in English? Looks like lots of info, I just can’t read it. Thanks.

 

[C clearly]

Knowing that "Etapa" means "stage", you should be able to get from the list of stages for the Camino Portuguese, to the page with the details for that stage. Then if you are using Chrome, right click and then select "Translate to English". Even without that translation of the paragraph at the top, the essential information on accommodation is fairly easy to translate.

 

[Grousedoctor]

When I open Gronze.com on my iPhone, the translator function automatically changes the text from Spanish to English. You’re correct that there is a lot of information on Gronze.com which is one reason why I find this website quite useful. If your translator function doesn’t seem to be working, you can copy and past text into a translator app such as Spanishdict.

 

[Circle56]

K. Thanks for the speedy replies. I had hoped there was a spot to switch to English. Will have another look.
Thanks.

 

[trecile]

We are thinking of Camino Portuguese in mid April. I had a look at Gronze.com. Does anyone know of a website that is in English? Looks like lots of info, I just can’t read it. Thanks.

If you use the Chrome browser it will give you the option to automatically translate to English. Just be aware that some place names also get translated. For instance Ventosa on the Camino Francés gets translated to Sucker.

 

[Circle56]

If you use the Chrome browser it will give you the option to automatically translate to English. Just be aware that some place names also get translated. For instance Ventosa on the Camino Francés gets translated to Sucker.

K. I will try it on chrome. And will be aware of translations. Thanks.

 

[dougfitz]

If your browser doesn't support in-line translation, you could try opening Google translate in a web page, selecting 'Webpages' in the options, and inserting the gronze URL there. Then select Spanish as the source language, and English (or another language) as the target. When you press the arrow button, a new browser page will open with the requested translation.

Gronze is pretty well behaved, although you do need to be aware that it will translate things like location names, which can lead to some amusing results.

 

[wisepilgrim]

If you want a website in English, I can shamelessly recommend wisepilgrim.com.

 

[WilliamTee52]

I downloaded the Spanish Language Pack into Chrome, then when I opened Gronze in Chrome it automatically translated it into English. It worked seamlessly.

 

[Mahonsk]

We are thinking of Camino Portuguese in mid April. I had a look at Gronze.com. Does anyone know of a website that is in English? Looks like lots of info, I just can’t read it. Thanks.

Open the Gronze website via Google Chrome. You will be given the option of Spanish or English. Select English and everything will automatically be translated. Buen Camino.

 

[trecile]

I downloaded the Spanish Language Pack into Chrome, then when I opened Gronze in Chrome it automatically translated it into English. It worked seamlessly.

That's interesting. I've never downloaded any language pack into Chrome, but it translates sites in (most) foreign languages into English.

 

[Mark Francis Auchincloss]

The other free resource I use is this one https://caminodesantiago.consumer.es/ The Website has recently been updated with a nice design revamp.

 

[vernakeoho]

Knowing that "Etapa" means "stage", you should be able to get from the list of stages for the Camino Portuguese, to the page with the details for that stage. Then if you are using Chrome, right click and then select "Translate to English". Even without that translation of the paragraph at the top, the essential information on accommodation is fairly easy to translate.

The Gronze app is amazingly helpful (using Chrome) and retains the English translation once you click the box on upper right. We will use this detailed accommodation info on our Camino this year.

 

[dougfitz]

That's interesting. I've never downloaded any language pack into Chrome, but it translates sites in (most) foreign languages into English.

I expect the language settings in Chrome will determine the language choices we are presented for in-line translation. For most here, that would be English, but Google offers a far wider range of target language than just that.

 

[wanderingvirg]

can you see an aA in the url space up top? If so tap it, sometimes it will give you the option to translate what is on your screen. I do not know why sometimes it offers the ability to translate and sometimes it doesn’t, it is just a little trick someone on the forum taught me a while back. It works for Gronze on my iPad.
I really enjoyed using Wise Pilgrim on my Camino, especially for the off-line wayfinding.

 

[trecile]

I expect the language settings in Chrome will determine the language choices we are presented for in-line translation. For most here, that would be English, but Google offers a far wider range of target language than just that.

Right. I usually mention Chrome will translate to the language of your choice. But the point of my post was that it's not necessary to download any language packs.

 

[erikas]

Open Gronze.com in Chrome, translate it then add it to your "desktop" for future,easy access.

 

[Sandrapf99]

If you use the Chrome browser it will give you the option to automatically translate to English. Just be aware that some place names also get translated. For instance Ventosa on the Camino Francés gets translated to Sucker.

Yes. Chrome is the way to go

 

[Bradypus]

Yes. Chrome is the way to go

I use Chrome as my default browser on both my Windows laptop and my Android phone partly because of the built-in translation feature. But it's worth mentioning that Microsoft Edge offers a very similar service too for those who prefer a different browser.

 

[Former member 92300]

As others said - open the webpage using a Chrome browser and then use the translate option to get it in English. That said - be sure to go back and forth between Spanish and English when it comes to verifying names of towns and albergues. Why? Because if the name is in Spanish and has an English translation - it will translate the name of the town/albergue into English too. For example, if you look for the town of Puenta la Reina will be translated to The Queen's Bridge (or something like that). You won't find a town colled "the Queen's Bridge" on a map of Spain.

 

[jouffroy47]

We are thinking of Camino Portuguese in mid April. I had a look at Gronze.com. Does anyone know of a website that is in English? Looks like lots of info, I just can’t read it. Thanks.

If you use Chrome as a browser on a tablet or phone, you can take advantage of the GoogleTranslate function when you use Gronze.

 

[pepi]

A contrary view
The Gronze website is by far the most complete and up-to-date Camino guide, and it is completely free.
It is concise and written in clear and simple language; any person preparing to walk one of the Caminos, and thus be a guest in a wonderful country abound of culture and history with lovely, helpful people, should have a minimum of respect to learn a few words and phrases in the local language. Few other tools are as good and easy for learning these few words and phrases as is Gronze. The descriptions are short and repetitive and with each stage, the vocabulary expands.

Please take an effort to read the few sentences in Spanish, even if you barely understand anything at first. With the help of a translation app, this will improve day by day. (Btw, avoid the superficial horrible Google translate app, use a solid tool such as www.deepl.com). No one will complain about your mistakes, on the contrary, you will be held in the highest esteem. Take advantage of your Camino and of Gronze to learn and use a few simple Spanish phrases.

Buen Camino

 

[C clearly]

I admire it for not bending and yielding to what I call "imperialism of the insensitive" by becoming multilingual.

I agree with you. However, I don't have any issue with suggesting that people use whatever tools - online, browser, or paper dictionaries, to avail themselves of the information. It is up to them to do the work, and I hope they/we are reminded of the richness of knowledge found in other languages.

 

[Former member 92300]

I agree with you. However, I don't have any issue with suggesting that people use whatever tools - online, browser, or paper dictionaries, to avail themselves of the information. It is up to them to do the work, and I hope they/we are reminded of the richness of knowledge found in other languages.

I totally agree. While it is "nice" when websites have multilingual options - whether it be within the page of through the offering of a button to change language - it is up to the individuals to make the page work for themselves. I don't expect any "foreign" webpage to offer the option to translate a page - but I do know which tools I can use to translate a page for me. Same with texts and emails - they can write me in their language, and I can use google translate to translate for me. We must all learn what tools work for us - at least we do until we are fluent in the other languages in which we are trying to communicate.

 

[Rita Flower]

When I open Gronze.com on my iPhone, the translator function automatically changes the text from Spanish to English. You’re correct that there is a lot of information on Gronze.com which is one reason why I find this website quite useful. If your translator function doesn’t seem to be working, you can copy and past text into a translator app such as Spanishdict.

Interesting. Maybe you have a short cut.
On my iPhone I select the text and the option to translate comes with copy/paste etc.
PS. Gronze has a lot of additional info that I only discovered recently. Eg. The tiny arrow on the right under the map takes you to Google maps for directions. Of course if I knew ‘Abrir mapa’ meant ‘open map’ I would have found it sooner.
So it’s worth having a good explore before you leave rather than in the last two weeks of your Camino like I did.

 

[DwainS]

can you see an aA in the url space up top? If so tap it, sometimes it will give you the option to translate what is on your screen. I do not know why sometimes it offers the ability to translate and sometimes it doesn’t, it is just a little trick someone on the forum taught me a while back. It works for Gronze on my iPad.
I really enjoyed using Wise Pilgrim on my Camino, especially for the off-line wayfinding.

works for me every time on my MacBook Air. Tap the AA and it says translate to English

 

[dougfitz]

(Btw, avoid the superficial horrible Google translate app, use a solid tool such as www.deepl.com).

I took your advice and loaded the DeepL Chrome extension. I don't have the language skills to comment on the quality of the translation, but from a practical perspective, the difference in functionality clearly favours Google at this stage. DeepL appears to require a paid subscription to translate whole web pages, which Google can do on the fly. When partial web pages containing tables, such as Gronze, are translated, DeepL appears to lose all the formatting that makes these pages readable, and DeepL removes the hyperlink information so that one cannot navigate directly from the DeepL translation.

If these are matters addressed in the paid version, they will continue to be unavailable to me, and I will continue to use Google Translate to provide them.

 

[pepi]

I took your advice and loaded the DeepL Chrome extension. I don't have the language skills to comment on the quality of the translation, but from a practical perspective, the difference in functionality clearly favours Google at this stage. DeepL appears to require a paid subscription to translate whole web pages, which Google can do on the fly. When partial web pages containing tables, such as Gronze, are translated, DeepL appears to lose all the formatting that makes these pages readable, and DeepL removes the hyperlink information so that one cannot navigate directly from the DeepL translation.

If these are matters addressed in the paid version, they will continue to be unavailable to me, and I will continue to use Google Translate to provide them.

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[Rick of Rick and Peg]

Occasionally I have noticed Chrome getting confused with what language the webpage is written in even though it should be obvious. I suspect that this is because the author of the webpage encoded the page's language incorrectly in its HTML header, the part of the age meant to be read by browsers and not humans.

 

[attagee60]

We are thinking of Camino Portuguese in mid April. I had a look at Gronze.com. Does anyone know of a website that is in English? Looks like lots of info, I just can’t read it. Thanks.

If you open it with Google chrome it will automatically translate it. You may have to change chrome settings. That doesn’t happen on iPhone Safari browser.