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New free camino app: Wisely - Camino Forum Places

ivar

Administrator
Staff member
#1
Dear all,

I am happy to announce that the Camino Forum and @wisepilgrim have over the last few months been working on a mobile app for the Camino. It is free and finally here:

iOS version (iPhone and iPad)

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https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/wisely-camino-forum-places/id1439743055?mt=8


Android Version:
Screenshot 2019-01-03 at 12.29.26.png
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wisely.caminoplaces&hl=en

This one app covers (for now) 4 Caminos: Camino Frances, Camino del Norte, Camino Primitivo and the Camino Portugués. Plans are to include more caminos in the future.

The app is free. Once you have downloaded the app, select a camino (in the menu).

The app includes:
- A track of the Camino you have selected (no turn-y-turn, but you can see where you are in relation to the camino)
- Offline maps (optional). Download them from the menu.
- Lodging alternatives for your camino (with option to book lodging, this requires an internet connection of course). Remember to download the images for all pensions, hotels,... in the "Downloads" menu).

So if you are an app person (I know this is not for everyone), give it a try.

More about the app:

'WISELY : Camino Forum Places' is a collaborative project between the Camino Forum and Wise Pilgrim Guides.

Its function is simple and straightforward: to provide a map-based interface of camino related places. The database currently contains all of the villages, mountain passes, and regional borders along the camino, as well as the locations of many buildings and ruins of historical significance. Additionally, it includes a comprehensive set of accommodations ranging from albergues and other shared accommodation to hotels, hostals, and other private accommodation.

This v1.1 release of the app includes information for the 4 major routes to Santiago: The Camino Francés, The Camino Portugués, The Camino del Norte, and the Camino Primitivo. Subsequent releases will include more routes. Each route includes a colored track of the camino and the map will display your current location relative to it.

All of the content in the app allows for the user to leave a comment for other pilgrims to make use of and you are encouraged to share your experiences; did you find a particular Albergue to be exceptional… or not so much, or perhaps a restaurant in town had the perfect meal of the day. The comments are moderately curated (mostly fact-checked) and our only request is that you keep your comments civil and kind.

The app is made available for free to everyone and is ad-free. If you found it to be helpful along the way and wish to support its development there are links in the menu to both the Camino Forums and the Wise Pilgrim shop; contributions or purchases there are welcome.

We thank you for your support and wish you a very Buen Camino!

Greetings from Santiago!
@ivar and @wisepilgrim
 

FourSeasons

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF Sept/Oct 2013
CF April/May 2016
del Norte (July/August 2019)
#5
Happy New Year indeed Ivar! Thank you for all your work in putting this together. I can't wait to use it this summer on del Norte. Very Exciting.

Can you provide the number of pilgrims that walked del Norte in 2018? I can't seem to find a breakdown of different Camino's.

Thanks in advance,
Angela
 
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
#7
I just installed the android version, but I don't see a search button. Is there a way to search for a particular town to see a list of albergues? Or does it only work if I'm actually on the Camino itself?
 
Camino(s) past & future
Fall 2016 Camino Frances to Leon
Fall 2017 Camino Frances to Finisterre
May 2019 Portuguese
#9
I booked my flight to Lisbon a few days ago and I have been studying my Wise Pilgrim book. I just downloaded the app and it is a wonderful bonus!
 

ivar

Administrator
Staff member
#10
I just installed the android version, but I don't see a search button. Is there a way to search for a particular town to see a list of albergues? Or does it only work if I'm actually on the Camino itself?
No search functionality, you can tap "Camino Map" in the menu to get to the "Starting" point of your camino and then zoom out and move along the camino until you find your village... (if you are not in Spain).

Once in Spain, just tap the GPS (arrow lower right) to go automatically to where you are.

Hope this makes sense. :)
 
Camino(s) past & future
C/F: 2013, 2014
C/M: 2016
C/P: 2015, 2017
C/I: 2018
Voluntario: 2014 to 2018
#11
Outstanding! Does this replace or compliment all the previous copies of the Wise Pilgrim Guides and Wisely Map supplements I have installed on my iPhone/ FYI? I have them ALL.

Asked another way, now that I installed this new combination app, can I delete the previous copies of the Wise and Wisely apps that I have for all four of these routes?

Hope this helps.
 
Camino(s) past & future
2019
#12
Dear all,

I am happy to announce that the Camino Forum and @wisepilgrim have over the last few months been working on a mobile app for the Camino. It is free and finally here:

iOS version (iPhone and iPad)

View attachment 50367
https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/wisely-camino-forum-places/id1439743055?mt=8


Android Version:
View attachment 50368
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wisely.caminoplaces&hl=en

This one app covers (for now) 4 Caminos: Camino Frances, Camino del Norte, Camino Primitivo and the Camino Portugués. Plans are to include more caminos in the future.

The app is free. Once you have downloaded the app, select a camino (in the menu).

The app includes:
- A track of the Camino you have selected (no turn-y-turn, but you can see where you are in relation to the camino)
- Offline maps (optional). Download them from the menu.
- Lodging alternatives for your camino (with option to book lodging, this requires an internet connection of course). Remember to download the images for all pensions, hotels,... in the "Downloads" menu).

So if you are an app person (I know this is not for everyone), give it a try.

More about the app:

'WISELY : Camino Forum Places' is a collaborative project between the Camino Forum and Wise Pilgrim Guides.

Its function is simple and straightforward: to provide a map-based interface of camino related places. The database currently contains all of the villages, mountain passes, and regional borders along the camino, as well as the locations of many buildings and ruins of historical significance. Additionally, it includes a comprehensive set of accommodations ranging from albergues and other shared accommodation to hotels, hostals, and other private accommodation.

This v1.1 release of the app includes information for the 4 major routes to Santiago: The Camino Francés, The Camino Portugués, The Camino del Norte, and the Camino Primitivo. Subsequent releases will include more routes. Each route includes a colored track of the camino and the map will display your current location relative to it.

All of the content in the app allows for the user to leave a comment for other pilgrims to make use of and you are encouraged to share your experiences; did you find a particular Albergue to be exceptional… or not so much, or perhaps a restaurant in town had the perfect meal of the day. The comments are moderately curated (mostly fact-checked) and our only request is that you keep your comments civil and kind.

The app is made available for free to everyone and is ad-free. If you found it to be helpful along the way and wish to support its development there are links in the menu to both the Camino Forums and the Wise Pilgrim shop; contributions or purchases there are welcome.

We thank you for your support and wish you a very Buen Camino!

Greetings from Santiago!
@ivar and @wisepilgrim
Thanks Ivar! I will download it as soon as I get a phone with more storage.
 

ivar

Administrator
Staff member
#13
Outstanding! Does this replace or compliment all the previous copies of the Wise Pilgrim Guides and Wisely Map supplements I have installed on my iPhone/ FYI? I have them ALL.

Asked another way, now that I installed this new combination app, can I delete the previous copies of the Wise and Wisely apps that I have for all four of these routes?

Hope this helps.
This is a question for @wisepilgrim , but as far as I understand the Wisely apps are going away (this is the new one). He of course has his full guides that he sell as apps with more content than you get in this free app. These full guide apps will not go away.

...but I hope @wisepilgrim can chime in here :)
 
Camino(s) past & future
Many
#14
@t2andreo, Ivar is correct. The Wisely apps were an experiment in recoding the original apps, and were released into the wild because I knew that
1. Android users were having trouble with the maps on the old apps, and
2. Non-EU pilgrims wanted a way to have maps without an internet connection.

I have now finished the work of making the full app do those things and more, and so the Wisely apps are in the process of being discontinued. The newly coded apps are now called 'Wisely +' and they are being rolled out one by one as I finish them.

So to be clear: There will eventually be a Wisely + app for all of the routes that currently have a version of the old Wise Pilgrim app. And the Wisely apps are being rolled into this one Camino Places app.

Clear?
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances Aug(2013), Portuguese (2018) Le Puy (2019)
#15
Ivar and WisePilgrim
Any chance of a Le Puy map/accommodation/guide? I have the Cicerone Guide but it is very difficult to find a town and it's accommodations. We don't speak French but it sounds like Miam Miam Dodo is our only option.
Hopefully someone is working on an understandable guide with map and accommodation list.
Thanks for your efforts.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Many
#16
Ivar and WisePilgrim
Any chance of a Le Puy map/accommodation/guide? I have the Cicerone Guide but it is very difficult to find a town and it's accommodations. We don't speak French but it sounds like Miam Miam Dodo is our only option.
Hopefully someone is working on an understandable guide with map and accommodation list.
Thanks for your efforts.
I am not sure that I have the time to pick up such a large route all on my own at this time, but I would really really like to. Perhaps in the coming months I will have a more clear picture of what the family summer plans are (three boys on summer break, perhaps they want to join?) and I can give it a go. Alternatively, I would be happy to lend my cartography/production/programming tools to a forum written guide... not necessarily a ready product for you @Lyndale but surely something for future pilgrims.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances Aug(2013), Portuguese (2018) Le Puy (2019)
#17
WisePilgrim
THREE BOYS on summer break sounds like you will already have your hands full. We are just in the starting stages of a plan and may not be able to go until 2020 so will wait and see what comes up.
It sure does look like an English version of the route would be extremely helpful due to limited beds.
Thanks for the quick reply
Lynda and Dale
 
Camino(s) past & future
C/F: 2013, 2014
C/M: 2016
C/P: 2015, 2017
C/I: 2018
Voluntario: 2014 to 2018
#18
@t2andreo, Ivar is correct. The Wisely apps were an experiment in recoding the original apps, and were released into the wild because I knew that
1. Android users were having trouble with the maps on the old apps, and
2. Non-EU pilgrims wanted a way to have maps without an internet connection.

I have now finished the work of making the full app do those things and more, and so the Wisely apps are in the process of being discontinued. The newly coded apps are now called 'Wisely +' and they are being rolled out one by one as I finish them.

So to be clear: There will eventually be a Wisely + app for all of the routes that currently have a version of the old Wise Pilgrim app. And the Wisely apps are being rolled into this one Camino Places app.

Clear?
I think you are saying to keep everything installed until you announce otherwise... Correct?
 
Camino(s) past & future
(2015) Camino Frances/Muxia/Fisterre (2017) Caminho Portuguese/Fisterre
(2019) Camino del Norte
#21
I would say that the Wisely versions for the Norte, Primitivo, Francés, and Portugués could safely be deleted. Their functionality has now been matched with the Wisely + apps.
I'm am such a wimp! This completely scares me. I will try to adjust!:eek:
 
Camino(s) past & future
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC
#23
This is great! I used the Wisepilgrim book for the Frances and enjoyed it thorougly. Much better than the Brierley guides, which are in part errounously (and more). Will get this app and figure out how to get it into my phone; the whole lot! :)
 
Camino(s) past & future
C Frances 2005, 2007
Le Puy en Velay -SdC 2009
Via de la Plata 2011
gr 653 from Oloron to Puente la Reina 2012
Gr65 from le Puy to Figeac 2013
Irun to Santander 2013
Porto to SdC 2014
Astorga to SdC 2015
#24
Thought Camino de Invierno in 2018 was my last camino, but I guess I have too try out this app!!
 

Marbe2

Active member
Camino(s) past & future
2015 SJPD to Burgos
2017 Leon to Santiago
Pamplona to Santiago Mar. 2018
Burgos - SCDC (Oct 18)
#25
Thank you!
I have downloaded the App on my IPad Air. In September I will use it on the Camino del Norte and will provide feedback then. Right now it is helpful being able to follow the maps to various destinations and zoom in on a location.
 
Camino(s) past & future
please see signature
#26
We don't speak French but it sounds like Miam Miam Dodo is our only option.
@Lyndale , for the walk from Le Puy you may want consider Michelin guide 161 Le chemin de Compostelle from your favourite on-line bookseller. The only text is a selection of accomodation for the stages it shows. So no translation required. Has an elevation profile and a Michelin map for each stage. Quite light.

And Wisely will be even lighter on your phone or, in my case tablet (so I can get the big picture as well as the detail).
 

SFletcher

Una flecha sigue una flecha
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2018)
#28
Tapping the back arrow closes the app when I had wanted to close a side menu and return to the map. Can this be fixed ?
 

captdave51

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Sept(2016)
#29
Ivar,
I'm having trouble using the app: When I tap on Camino Map, it just zooms into where I am now(the USA). When I select a route, (Camino Frances), it again zooms to my current location. I have also downloaded the offline maps also. Don't know how to open them either. How can I view the maps from the USA?
 
Camino(s) past & future
Many
#31
Ivar,
I'm having trouble using the app: When I tap on Camino Map, it just zooms into where I am now(the USA). When I select a route, (Camino Frances), it again zooms to my current location. I have also downloaded the offline maps also. Don't know how to open them either. How can I view the maps from the USA?
The app is meant to be used while you are physically on the camino, which is why it keeps zooming to your current location. The offline maps provide coverage for that specific camino, and the only thing you need to do to see them is to zoom-in to the appropriate area of the map and to have the offline map selected (the bottom left button is a toggle).
 
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
#33

captdave51

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Sept(2016)
#34
Ivar,
I thought that I had downloaded the offline maps-it said it was done- but I cannot find them. Even in the downloads section of my phone they are just not there. I also assume that once successfully downloaded the toggle on the bottom left of the screen will be there only if I am on the Camino?
 
Camino(s) past & future
Levant from Avila 2013
Prim (2019)
#36
Camino(s) past & future
Planning to walk the Camino Frances in September 2019
#37
Just downloaded this and it looks fantastic!

Many thanks. I am sure this will be hugely valuable on our first Camino.

All the best,

Patrick
 

Iriebabel

Iriebabel & the cyborg turtle
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances April (2018)
Camino Del Norte end of March 2019
#40
Thank you!
I have downloaded the App on my IPad Air. In September I will use it on the Camino del Norte and will provide feedback then. Right now it is helpful being able to follow the maps to various destinations and zoom in on a location.
I will use it end of March on the Norte will let you know .
 

cmk033

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
February (2019)
#41
I have downloaded the app on my android phone in US. It does not seem to work. I am not sure if this will change when I arrive at the trail. It displays the map of where I am in US. I pick the route to "Camino Francis" and different map is displayed then system automatically displays back to my current location in US map. Any help would appreciated as I am leaving on Sunday.
 

cmk033

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
February (2019)
#42
The app is meant to be used while you are physically on the camino, which is why it keeps zooming to your current location. The offline maps provide coverage for that specific camino, and the only thing you need to do to see them is to zoom-in to the appropriate area of the map and to have the offline map selected (the bottom left button is a toggle).
I see the topic has already been covered.... You can easily get lost in posts... Thanks wisepilgrim.
 
Camino(s) past & future
June 2017 Francés
Oct 2017 Incomplete Le Puy / Francés
June/July 2018 Norte
Oct/Nov 2108 Francés
#43
Here's an idea for your app...

You have the PDF here "Selection of Favourite Albergues" which I've found *very* useful. Could you incorporate the reviews / info in this PDF into the app, so essentially have a few special places highlighted within the app, instead of needing to refer to a separate document?
 
#44
Here's an idea for your app...

You have the PDF here "Selection of Favourite Albergues" which I've found *very* useful. Could you incorporate the reviews / info in this PDF into the app, so essentially have a few special places highlighted within the app, instead of needing to refer to a separate document?
I guess... but the bad thing is that those comments would be a bit old.. and things might have changed. Hopefully people will leave some comments in the app, and that these comments will be more up-to-date.
 
Camino(s) past & future
(2009): Camino Frances
(2011): Sevilla-Salamanca, VdlP
(2012): Salamanca-SdC, VdlP
(2014): SJpdP-Astorga
(2015): Astorga-SdC
(2016) May Pamplona-Moratinos; Sept.:Burgos-SdC
(2016): August/Sept: Camino San Olav (Burgos-Covarubbias), Burgos-Sarria
(2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC
#45
@ivar and @wisepilgrim : Thank you both for this offer! Have downloaded and will play/test it in April/May on CF. Most kind of you both!
 

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