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Lisa Cook

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Camino(s) past & future
(fall 2014)
I've been playing around with this today.
Here is my list.
I have put down things I haven't bought yet, but can fill out when I get them and put my tent and ground cover but put the number at zero so I can use this as the base for other trips. You can also mark what you are wearing vs. carrying.
Hopefully, this will help me keep the weight down.

http://lighterpack.com/r/ctw09s

Lisa
 

pdxjxm

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
August-Sept. 2014
I've been playing around with this today.
Here is my list.
I have put down things I haven't bought yet, but can fill out when I get them and put my tent and ground cover but put the number at zero so I can use this as the base for other trips. You can also mark what you are wearing vs. carrying.
Hopefully, this will help me keep the weight down.

http://lighterpack.com/r/ctw09s

Lisa
What month are you going?
 

Camino Ellie

New Member
Is there a grams/ kilo version?
Just wondering if you need a thermarest.... Saw so many cheap and expensive mats left behind
 

Lisa Cook

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
(fall 2014)
Yes. You can change the weight to gm/kg on each item also. I may leave the pad. My pack, zpacks zero has pockets for a pad up against your backand straps to tie one on top. I have an XL insulite pad from Lawson's Outdoor Equipment that only weighs 4 oz so I may bring that instead.

My headlamp is the heaviest thing I've got. It takes 4 aa batteries which I thought would be easy to replace on the trail.

A lot of my items depend on whether I take a tent or not. I would love to, but only if I could find others to set up with or near as I am not too keen on being out by myself. I have even considered bringing two solo tents (14 oz each) and trying to recruit someone to camp out with me on nice nights. I would still have to pay the alberques to shower, but I really love to camp out.
 
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hotelmedicis

Commercial Interests
Camino(s) past & future
CF 2001 (+more)
VDLP 2013, 2018
Hi Lisa,

You have some nice equipment there and you seem to be well organized. I have a couple of questions. Firstly, you could save about 14 oz of weight just be swapping out your 16oz water bottle for a plastic one from the store. Not as nice, but lighter.

You also have a jacket, a vest and a sweater. (Not to mention your arm warmers.) Does any of this overlap? Regarding your jacket, I have found the Uniqlo products to be clearly geared toward fashion and not toward warmth. The fill power of whatever down/feathers they are putting in their down vests/jackets can't be very much and I'm sure that you would get much more warmth out of a technical vest/jacket of the same weight albeit a more expensive one. The Patagonia Nano Puff jacket gets rave reviews and will not only pack small but keep you warm when wet. Perhaps you have had more luck with Uniqlo down products than I have.

I see that you have a 1/8" foam pad AND a (great) Thermarest air mattress. Do you really need both? I would go for the Thermarest if I were you.

Why the sleeping bag liner? It weights more than half of what your sleeping bag weighs. It's true that Spain is second only to Switzerland as the most mountainous country in Europe, and that the Camino is sometimes at around 3,000 feet. You'll be sleeping at that altitude in a couple places. In the middle of July it was down right cold! If you have the dough, I would ditch both the bag and the liner (22 oz) and buy a Zpacks (since you're and avid fan!:) 20 degree sleeping bag. A size medium is only 16.7 oz. What do you think? You could easily camp out and be cozy in that thing.

I've camped out in several places on this Camino, including halfway up the mountain to Roncesvalles. You are well prepared and so shouldn't have a problem. If you are a big fan of camping out, definitely bring your tent because the crowds in the refuges can get old quickly. You'll also have the opportunity to sleep in the floor of some monasteries, which is fun! My bag weighted 8 kilos and yours is under that, so you'll be light as a feather. Nice.

Good luck!

Dan
 

Magwood

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Camino(s) past & future
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I haven't looked at your list, but from reading the response from @hotelmedicis I would say that from personal experience I would not take a down filled item of clothing. They do not work under a waterproof jacket and create lots of moisture. I would go for a fleece and if you have a fleece gillet and arm warmers this is a perfect combination IMHO.
If you are interested, see my assessment of clothes and gear here, where I talk about this combination.
Buen camino!
 
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Anemone del Camino

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I've been playing around with this today.
Here is my list.
I have put down things I haven't bought yet, but can fill out when I get them and put my tent and ground cover but put the number at zero so I can use this as the base for other trips. You can also mark what you are wearing vs. carrying.
Hopefully, this will help me keep the weight down.

http://lighterpack.com/r/ctw09s

Lisa
Hello Lisa,

Which Camino are you walking in Sept/October? Seems to me you are preparing for the Adirondaks.

I have walked the Camino Frances in May, then again in September and October, and again in May. The worst in terms of cold was last May: record cold for the area at that time of the year. Ended up buying gloves and a sleeping bag, which I had never needed before. This time I am planing on el Camino del Norte, at the same time you are going to walk.

I may be wrong, but you seem concerned about this Camino, and really you shouldn't. It will all take care of itself. A shop near where I live, and caters to Camino walkers, has a moto regarding Camino packing: "First you start with what is usefull, then we look at what is necessary. In the end you find yourself with what is essential and, in reality, that is plenty.'

Down seems very bulky to me, and a sleeping bag not necessary. Until this spring I never needed a sleeping bag, even in the fall, all I used is a sleeping bag liner (with bed bug repelent mind you!). In your total weight you have the tent at 0, yet the website says it's 6 pounds 13 ounces (packed weight). You are thinking of taking 2 sleep mats which adds up. Since you will pay the hostel for showering, if you want to sleep outdoors, where possible, bring a hamock and sleep inside the rest of the time. Many sleep outdoors in September/October and are fine with their liner only.

Your poles sound quite extraordinary, with shock absorbers, but they are heavy: 552 g. What about some that are not shock absorbing. Mine are 100g and probably less expensive than the ones you are considering.

I would increase the weight of toiletteries, and even 1st aid kit. Consider the weight of a small jar or tube of vaseline for your feet, some meds, shampoo/soap, deodorant.

As for arm warmers, why not just get a light long sleeve shirt you will not mind wearing at dinner time, or visiting a church during a service? You are thinking about adding a jacket, down vetst, shawl, and sweater on top of the arm warmers? That is a lot. Yet you only bring a single pair of pants, and no change of clothes while the ones you wore today are drying overnight. And the kanteen. Get a Camel bag so you are carrying that weight on your back so it doesn't have you crooked (been there, done that. After 20K I could not put a foot in from of the other, because I had not been straight, balanced, all day).

I would suggest to look at spending less on the top trend items and bring things you will need: two bottoms (pants you can roll up, or long skirts), two short sleeve shirts, one long sleeve shirt, a light fleece sweater (LLBean has great ones) that zip all the way down. 2 pairs of socks, or 4 if they are thin and you like to double up. A hat. Perhaps something for bedtime unless you want to wear what you'll be wearing in the morning. A sleeping bag liner, I also have a thin airplane-like blanket (http://www.4imprint.ca/search/blanket/product/C119173/PGA-Tour-Sideline-Blanket). I would bring a pillowcase, or something to cover what ever pillow you may be given - they are not washed daily!

Also, don't forget that camping in Spain is not permitted, so you would have to be able to pitch your tent within the Albergue's grounds, and not all of them have land around the building. In fact very few do. I am assuming that as a pilgrim obiding by national laws are part of your ethics.

The Camino is really simple and is about simplicity, about getting back to the essential. And wouldn't you know it, you don't need much to make it, nor fancy fabrics and elite sports equipement. And an extra pound or two on your back will not break you, if you listen to your body and don't turn the Camino into a race to Santiago. This being said, it is important to be comfortable.

I am not a "thin" person, far from it. I walk my 25 km a day on the Camino with 8kg on my back. You don't see me rushing to arrive by noon, nor wake everyone up at 5 am to get up and race out. I am passed by youngsters who aim to do 30+ km a day, who tell me I can push myself. And wouldn't you know it, I end up passing them as they get blisters, tendonitis and stress fractures and have to go home early, paying a fee to change their flight back home...

I hope this walk is all you have ever wanted it to be.

Buen camino!
 

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