O Cebreiro

[JPPev]

Does anyone have experience of what the warning below means in practice.?

Desde el 12 julio de 2021, y durante un año previsiblemente, la Guardia Civil prohíbe el paso de peregrinos (a pie o en bici) por la antigua N-VI entre Las Herrerías y O Cebreiro: por lo tanto debemos subir por el camino oficial

 

[mspath]

The statement which is cited in the above post is also cited in the Gronze Camino Frances guide.

I do not know but perhaps the old N-VI
needs repairs or perhaps there has been a serious accident; it is another way up to O Cebreiro in addition to the camino path. There is also a new N-VI which is a regular road. The old V-NI which in happier times I walked several times is a rough path with a few dicey sections.

Thus the statement cited in the post above prohibits the use of the old N-VI for at least a year starting July 12, 2021.

 

[JPPev]

Thanks very much so I go ahead on the main Camino

 

[Tom Cartwright]

Does anyone have experience of what the warning below means in practice.?

Desde el 12 julio de 2021, y durante un año previsiblemente, la Guardia Civil prohíbe el paso de peregrinos (a pie o en bici) por la antigua N-VI entre Las Herrerías y O Cebreiro: por lo tanto debemos subir por el camino oficial

I just walked the Camino path today to O’Cebriero from Villafranca. I saw no issues and have heard of none. The issue from her to Santiago and in Santiago is that because of StJames day tourists have taken over accommodations and made it difficult for pilgrims. This should pass after the 25th but the fact Santiago is full of tourists and no places for pilgrims is a shame. That should not happen.

 

[MichelleElynHogan]

I just walked the Camino path today to O’Cebriero from Villafranca. I saw no issues and have heard of none. The issue from her to Santiago and in Santiago is that because of StJames day tourists have taken over accommodations and made it difficult for pilgrims. This should pass after the 25th but the fact Santiago is full of tourists and no places for pilgrims is a shame. That should not happen.

Actually, they should thank los Peregrinos, as the quantity of accomodations are only available due to the constant traffic de los Caminos.

 

[SabsP]

I just walked the Camino path today to O’Cebriero from Villafranca. I saw no issues and have heard of none. The issue from her to Santiago and in Santiago is that because of StJames day tourists have taken over accommodations and made it difficult for pilgrims. This should pass after the 25th but the fact Santiago is full of tourists and no places for pilgrims is a shame. That should not happen.

Oh please let us not start again this discussion about a tourist and a pilgrim!

That ( Spanish ) tourist is having his/ her well earned annual holiday ,celebrating one of the most important days in Galician / Spanish culture.
Plus he/ she more than deserves to have a good time after all the Covid sh*t they had to endure.

In general , and like every other ( normal ) year a pilgrim should know that arrriving around the 25th of July prices increase in Santiago de Compostela.
Not unlike trying to book a room in Pamplona when San Fermin is going on or in Sevilla when it is Semana Santa or the Feria.

Conclusion : as a pilgrim we are not entitled to " a place ".

 

[stinmd]

I just walked the Camino path today to O’Cebriero from Villafranca. I saw no issues and have heard of none. The issue from her to Santiago and in Santiago is that because of StJames day tourists have taken over accommodations and made it difficult for pilgrims. This should pass after the 25th but the fact Santiago is full of tourists and no places for pilgrims is a shame. That should not happen.

Pilgrims become tourists, by definition, as soon as they reach SdC, no?

 

[SabsP]

Actually, they should thank los Peregrinos, as the quantity of accomodations are only available due to the constant traffic de los Caminos.

Actually Santiago de Compostela is also a very popular holiday destination for Spaniards enjoying a yearly holiday or a long weekend. Why would they have to be thankful to pilgrims who on average spend only a couple of days in town and are not ( again in general ) spending that much money.
Not forgetting that it is also a university town where in non Covid times lots of conferences were held so hotels get much revenue from that.
Idem for the businesshotels.

 

[Former member 91017]

I think a little history lesson is in order here. One can see it stamped on the cobblestones as one enters SdC on the CF route.
Pilgrimages have *always* been the lauded conveyance of culture, art history, architecture, and becoming "worldly". Since their inception, pilgrims have paid their way to enter into the most beautiful cathedrals, to receive their powerful blessings, yes, and to see the art and the architecture, and the cultural blossoming in the lee of the churches.
This is what "the grand tour" initially referred to: touring, as a Catholic, to see the wonders of the HRE across the continent... Definitely Canterbury. Paris, Rome... and eventually Santiago and Jerusalem for those who could afford the time and money.
The divide between "tourist" and "pilgrim" strikes me as a very false and puritanical division that has little place on the pilgrimage route to Santiago.

 

[Kathar1na]

as the quantity of accommodations are only available due to the constant traffic de los Caminos.

That remark sounds funny to me. Galicia is a destination for many Spanish people to spend leisure time there; it's more than Camino walking to them. At least that is my impression.

 

[MichelleElynHogan]

Actually Santiago de Compostela is also a very popular holiday destination for Spaniards enjoying a yearly holiday or a long weekend. Why would they have to be thankful to pilgrims who on average spend only a couple of days in town and are not ( again in general ) spending that much money.
Not forgetting that it is also a university town where in non Covid times lots of conferences were held so hotels get much revenue from that.
Idem for the businesshotels.

It is all about the economics and survival of the services themselves, no matter their niche market.

 

[Tony Bobcat]

The statement which is cited in the above post is also cited in the Gronze Camino Frances guide.

I do not know but perhaps the old N-VI
needs repairs or perhaps there has been a serious accident; it is another way up to O Cebreiro in addition to the camino path. There is also a new N-VI which is a regular road. The old V-NI which in happier times I walked several times is a rough path with a few dicey sections.

Thus the statement cited in the post above prohibits the use of the old N-VI for at least a year starting July 12, 2021.

Since July 12, 2021, and for a foreseeable year, the Civil Guard prohibits the passage of pilgrims (on foot or by bike) through the old N-VI between Las Herrerías and O Cebreiro: therefore we must go up the official path

 

[trecile]

Conclusion : as a pilgrim we are not entitled to " a place ".

Nor discounts!
In another thread, I think about the Norte, a poster mentioned that prices are higher this year, and there are fewer pilgrim discounts in hotels and pensiones. After a year of pandemic closures I don't begrudge the owners a little extra to help them stay in business.