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dougfitz

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Spain: Mar 2010, Apr 2014, May/Jun 2016. Norway/Sweden: 2012, 2018. Other: 2011, 2019. CP (tbc)

koilife

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I just love anyone who uses "gobsmacked" in a headline. It's a perennial on my top 10 favorite word list.

I wonder if day 91 is like that first day after the car warranty ends . . . everything falls apart after that.
 

Wokabaut_Meri

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Wasn't it Billy Connolly who said (or a variation thereof) There’s no such thing as bad weather… just wrong clothes! so get yourself a sexy raincoat and live a little!

One of my first walk leaders (a nun as a matter of fact) told me when I asked aged 5 about what weather to expect Whatever God gives you, be content. But a young lady should always comes prepared for wind and rain...

And I have been... content AND prepared.

Weather is such a subjective topic. One morning in the Australian desert we had just returned to camp from a dip in some hot springs. Hubby and I were in our bathers, towels over our shoulders and thongs/flipflops on our feet. We were travelling north for the winter and this was seriously warm weather. In the adjacent campsite some northerners travelling south had every bit of warm clothing on - hats, gloves, coats - and were huddled around their campfire.

It's an image that always comes to mind when anyone asks me about what the weather will be like :confused:
 

koilife

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And wasn't it President Kennedy who said (or a variation thereof) Ask not whether you will get the weather you want, ask whether you will want the weather you get.
 
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dougfitz

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Wasn't it Billy Connolly who said (or a variation thereof) There’s no such thing as bad weather… just wrong clothes! so get yourself a sexy raincoat and live a little!
Billy Connelly might have been responsible for this particular adaptation, but the I think the original would be more correctly attributed to Arthur Wainwright. His statement appears to have been 'there is no such thing as bad weather, only unsuitable clothing'.
 
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2012
In 1938 Wainwright walked north from Settle onto the eastern face of the Pennines as far as Hadrian's Wall and then south again on the western edges. He wore Brogues (leather street shoes) and a tweed jacket (see A Pennine Journey). It rained. A lot. His one comment on his preparedness for the trip was that he should have brought more handkerchiefs.
 
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2012
American's insane obsession with discussing the weather is an automatic mechanism to avoid the real topics of the day like family, politics, religion, global change, etc.
If you think American's are insane about the weather wait until you come to Ireland, it is the universal ice breaker for any conversation with both friends and stranger alike.
 

koilife

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American's insane obsession with discussing the weather is an automatic mechanism to avoid the real topics of the day like family, politics, religion, global change, etc.

Not weather but sports.One area I can't stand.
Given that Rule #2 of the forum prohibits "discussions on religion, bull fights , sports and politics," what else is left but the weather or blisters or bedbugs? ;)
 
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Richard Ward

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The major weather sites can't agree upon what's going to happen three days from now, let alone three months. Been looking at Friday and Saturday at St Jean -- it's going to be mostly sunny, mostly cloudy, or mostly rainy -- pick which one you like!

That being said, those who have done this a few times, could give us weather obsessed Irish-Americans a GENERAL idea of weather for a particular month. :) Like, is it as rainy in May as it is in April, to give a hypothetical.... Anyway, not much I can do about it now -- bringing my poncho and will deal with it.
 

koilife

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The major weather sites can't agree upon what's going to happen three days from now, let alone three months. Been looking at Friday and Saturday at St Jean -- it's going to be mostly sunny, mostly cloudy, or mostly rainy -- pick which one you like!
Ironically, all three are probably correct!
That being said, those who have done this a few times, could give us weather obsessed Irish-Americans a GENERAL idea of weather for a particular month. :) Like, is it as rainy in May as it is in April, to give a hypothetical.... Anyway, not much I can do about it now -- bringing my poncho and will deal with it.
You're in a swing season, so it's kinda up in the air from year to year. BUT, you can be pretty confident that you'll need both sunscreen and a poncho at some point along the way; the question is more where you'll land on the two-dimensional continuum/plane between hot/cold, wet/dry each week and each region. And I don't think anyone can answer that question, except maybe Accuweather with their 90 day forecast . . . :rolleyes:
 
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2012
It is a well known fact (ie probably untrue) that the weather forecast on ITV (commercial broadcaster) is always better than that forecast by the BBC. Can't go upsetting the advertisers now....

As a long term attendee and staffer at various music festivals in the UK I can also confirm that essential clothing includes the Thermal Bikini, Open-toed Wellies and a water-proof sundress. Glastonbury regulars may add a snorkel but for the hard-core that is pure self indulgence. Water-proof sun-block is however a festival standard and should be included in every camino packing list.

My forecast for tomorrow: sunshine. Unless, of course, it happens to be raining where you are.
 
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biarritzdon

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The major weather sites can't agree upon what's going to happen three days from now, let alone three months. Been looking at Friday and Saturday at St Jean -- it's going to be mostly sunny, mostly cloudy, or mostly rainy -- pick which one you like!

That being said, those who have done this a few times, could give us weather obsessed Irish-Americans a GENERAL idea of weather for a particular month. :) Like, is it as rainy in May as it is in April, to give a hypothetical.... Anyway, not much I can do about it now -- bringing my poncho and will deal with it.
Obviously, you are not going to give up continuously asking this questions.
While I'm away in sunny Florida, my crystal ball "genies" in Biarritz are telling me there will be rain and freezing temperature down to 1200 meters on 23 and 24 April. That means snow on the pass. The winds not so bad maybe 25 to 30 kph. Ask for guidance down in STJPdP.
Two or three years ago there were historic snow storm in the Pyrenees during the month of May , last year it was gorgeous.
If you are savvy about weather patterns, just watch the major storms that move across the US and then across the Atlantic and that should be your predictor.
 
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dduroy

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April "2013" and April 2016
I will confess. I alone control the weather. As you will see that the Camino will be sunny from my arrival April 24th until May the 9th. I make no guarantees past that.
 

biarritzdon

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Ha ha! I so rarely laugh out loud at the screen!
No politics allowed on the forum but take a look at the Non Sequitur comic strip on 17 April.

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CaminoDebrita

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No politics allowed on the forum but take a look at the Non Sequitur comic strip on 17 April.
Oh, that was just a hypothetical quip!!
 
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Stivandrer

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I´ve got Camino plans until 2042,
- or till I fall flat on my face, whichever comes first !!
Wasn't it Billy Connolly who said (or a variation thereof) There’s no such thing as bad weather… just wrong clothes! so get yourself a sexy raincoat and live a little!

One of my first walk leaders (a nun as a matter of fact) told me when I asked aged 5 about what weather to expect Whatever God gives you, be content. But a young lady should always comes prepared for wind and rain...

And I have been... content AND prepared.

Weather is such a subjective topic. One morning in the Australian desert we had just returned to camp from a dip in some hot springs. Hubby and I were in our bathers, towels over our shoulders and thongs/flipflops on our feet. We were travelling north for the winter and this was seriously warm weather. In the adjacent campsite some northerners travelling south had every bit of warm clothing on - hats, gloves, coats - and were huddled around their campfire.

It's an image that always comes to mind when anyone asks me about what the weather will be like :confused:

Billy Connolly or not;
when in Scotland you stand corrected when after asking a local whether it will rain;

- Ye´see that island oot there - if yer can see it, it´s goin ter rain in a wee while...
"And if you cannot see it !?"
- it´s rainin´ allreddy !!

AND

" If yer don´t like the weather, stick around for a quarter of an hour! It´ll be sure to change "

After that there is only positive surprises regarding the weather !!
That´s how I feel about Galicia, it feels sooo familiar....
 

Kanga

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Francés x 5, Le Puy x 2, Arles, Tours, Norte, Madrid, Via de la Plata, Portuguese, Primitivo
I have edited this thread to remove derogatory references to current political figures. Some people will inevitably have a different viewpoint to your own and be offended. There are good reasons for the Forum Rules.
 

peregrina2000

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I have been trying to find a reference to a study I remember, but I can't find it. To the best of my memory, the researchers compared several sets of weather forecasts. Some were the standards like weather.com, National Weather Service, accuweather, etc, and one was much simpler. Its forecast was simply "Tomorrow will be pretty much like today." Amazingly, the simple one had a higher rate of accuracy than all the others.
 

Stivandrer

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I´ve got Camino plans until 2042,
- or till I fall flat on my face, whichever comes first !!
I have been trying to find a reference to a study I remember, but I can't find it. To the best of my memory, the researchers compared several sets of weather forecasts. Some were the standards like weather.com, National Weather Service, accuweather, etc, and one was much simpler. Its forecast was simply "Tomorrow will be pretty much like today." Amazingly, the simple one had a higher rate of accuracy than all the others.
You might want to try the yr.no site, it is pretty accurate...In general, but not 3 months ahead, that is too unpredictable IMHO

SJPdP : http://www.yr.no/place/Spain/Galicia/Santiago_de_Compostela/
 
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What isn't the weather going to be like in May?
 

Kanga

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According to my niece, highly trained meteorologist, university first class honours, Phd, and specialist aviation weather forecaster - the most accurate forecasts are made by those who wait until the day, consult the charts, and then look out the window at the sky .....
 
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Isca-camigo

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I remember watching the weather forecast one evening several years ago on the BBC, when it came to the prediction for the next day the presenter said 50% chance of rain, you could say that means a medium to high probability or you could say it might or might not rain, sometimes forecasts by professionals leave you none the wiser.
 
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American's insane obsession with discussing the weather is an automatic mechanism to avoid the real topics of the day like family, politics, religion, global change, etc.
Don, it's not just Americans - I've traveled to 21 countries and lived in 4, and I'm pretty sure it's the human condition.
Farmers want to know.
Travelers want to know.
Children on the way to school want to know.
Fishermen/women want to know.
Mountain climbers want to know.
Poets want to know.

All over the world, discussing the weather is the universally first subject of conversation between strangers...

The best advice so far? Bring a sexy raincoat...
 
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trecile

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Years ago, when my husband and I were on vacation in Sydney, it seemed like the weather forecast on TV was always "fine".
 

soozansings

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June 2nd (2016)
Billy Connolly or not;
when in Scotland you stand corrected when after asking a local whether it will rain;

- Ye´see that island oot there - if yer can see it, it´s goin ter rain in a wee while...
"And if you cannot see it !?"
- it´s rainin´ allreddy !!

AND

" If yer don´t like the weather, stick around for a quarter of an hour! It´ll be sure to change "

After that there is only positive surprises regarding the weather !!
That´s how I feel about Galicia, it feels sooo familiar....
Lol in Oklahoma (my former home) our mantra was "iffen you don't like the weather then wait 30 minutes"
 

Peter Fransiscus

Be a Rainbow in someone else's cloud.
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All that we are is the result of what we have thought.
If you think American's are insane about the weather wait until you come to Ireland, it is the universal ice breaker for any conversation with both friends and stranger alike.
Not only in Ireland also in Holland. For some is it to warm, to cold, to wet, to dry ,
to. ...... and a lot more I think.
It's never o.k. and nobody can predict the weather in my opinion.
Wish you all well, Peter.
 
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