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Pre-Camino Syndrome

Discussion in 'Miscellaneous Topics' started by stgcph, Jul 17, 2017.

  1. stgcph

    stgcph New Member

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    I read about it on this forum, but being an academic and boasting a rational mind, I thought it was never going to happen to me, that it was not going to affect me. But it did, it has! All my thoughts are on this coming Camino walk six weeks from now; on details of equipment, footwear, training, and of course on how it is going to be. Can I do it? How will it affect me? I find it increasingly difficult to concentrate on daily chores; I feel I am wasting my time if I am not on a training walk, preparing for the next training walk, fiddling with my gear or at least doing some reading on Camino history and Camino experiences.

    I have done a lot of travelling over the years, but this is the first time that preparations and anticipations have absorbed me totally for several months.

    Serious symptoms, but oh, how delightful.
     
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    This is perfectly rational. The Camino is not like any traveling you have ever done before, or course you have become absorbed in the preparations. Many of us do. Quite reasonably, you want to be prepared for whats to come. Sounds like you will be! These preparations, whether you know it or not, are as mental as they are physical. Your Camino has already begun, and it sounds like you are loving every minute of it. Only one thing left to say - Buen Camino!
     
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    Great fun isn't it :)
    Best way to prepare yourself? Pack more underwear .!
     
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    Two pcs. not enough?
     
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    One on, one in your pack - and one flying like a flag from the back of your pack as it air dries if it didn't quite get there after yesterdays wash ;)
     
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    Welcome to the club.

    Buen Camino!
     
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    There is also the exact opposite: the lazy pilgrim syndrome.
    1. As in "oh, no need to hurry...I have three weeks before leaving".:cool:
    2. "But wait, now it is only three days!...ok, plenty of time, anyway". :rolleyes:
    3. "Oh no, only three hours to be at the airport! I should have...
    Ok, I will solve it on the spot, after arriving".:mad:
     
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    jozero Happiest When Walking

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    I have more 'bad' news for you though... It doesn't end with the culmination of your Camino! In fact that when it hits the hardest, the almost desparate craving to be back on the trail surrounded by like-minded people, enjoying great food and drink and most of all, a life simplified...! Buen Camino!
     
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    You speak from experience i see.
    I will crank it up to three -the burden is mine to bear...
     
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    Wish I could adapt a little more to that thinking. I have spent the better part of a lifetime worrying in advance.
     
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    SYates Camino Fossil AD 1999 Donating Member

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    Welcome to the club @stgcph ;-) I am still doing most of what you have described ;-) The important bit about plans is to toss them out of the window when they don't fit the reality! Buen Camino, SY
     
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    That's sound advice!
    "A plan is nothing - planning is everything" (Dwight D. Eisenhower)
     
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    On the Camino, the best plan is to not have a plan. Believe me.
     
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    With your CV! - how can I not believe you.
     
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    He he ! :p

    Just wait until you get back home and start olanning the next one. And yes, you will think about hear again, trying to make better, lighter, faster drying choices. :D
     
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    Pre camino excitement is perfectly natural . I spent 3 years in moments of boredom at work reading and memorising the cicerone guide to the french way .
    Ive just decided to return to the via de la plata in jan 2018 and already my child like excitement in the joy of planning is keeping me awake at night.
    I am so envious of anybody heading to the Camino enjoy say hello to the peregrinos and most of all buen Camino .
     
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    My wife had an extensive spreadsheet before we left
    She did another 4 as we walked before she gave up
    If organising and planning is a big part of your life and work it is natural to try and plan your Camino
    The problem is that the best plan is to be adaptable
    (please note we did refer to those spreadsheets for specific information)
     
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    Your last line says it all "how delightful"

    You cannot imagine the freedom that comes from putting on a backpack at 6AM and not knowing where you will eat breakfast, much less where you will sleep. Rest assured you will eat and you will sleep. When you get home you will spend as much time thinking about what you will do differently next time as you are spending now on over planning.

    Buen Camino
     
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    To be honest, this IS the best plan: Walk in earnest, take what comes, have no worries, do not set dates, just enjoy. The Camino has a place for you each day. Fear not. You will be fine, and you will experience a new form of freedom. Do not fear: All will be well, you will meet people that may become life-long friends, and you will hopefully find the freedom of the Camino. Just remember to let go, enjoy your freedom days, and relax, fellow Scandinavian.

    Make food in the albergue kitchen with new friends whenever you can. Enjoy Spanish wine in the afternoons. Sleep long and well after long days.

    Edit: I am very happy on your behalf, that you have decided to walk the Camino. If you let it, it will be a life-changer. Just let it in to you. And do not rush: I have seen so many people cry in Santiago when they realised that the walk was over, and suddenly understood that the WAY was the goal...
     
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    No, no. Pack socks. Thin, thick, wool, liners, wicking, water proof socks.
     
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    We are six weeks away from leaving home as well. I'm right there with you! My backpack is my favorite toy, walking is what I want to do most. I have spent a great deal of time figuring out what to take, what works on my walks, what layers, changes, could it be lighter ...... and the shopping (which I normally really dislike) has been a lot of fun, but fraught with "will it work"?

    My brain has already left home.
    And I have enough socks to last a life time.

    PS. Hubby has not yet bought his shoes. Not even shopped for them.
     
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    I too have more sox than I need. I took 2 pair of Wright Socks and they were great. I bought 50 pounds of things that I might need and left 75% of it at home. When I got to Burgos, I mailed 5 pounds to myself at the PO in Santiago.
     
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    After Burgos, in Castrojeriz, you will find a small shop with an old gentle man in the town square. He sells the world's best socks, named Lorpen, Buy them. You will not need anything else :)
     
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    We leave in a week - I've got the syndrome!!!
     
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    I found him by accident after wearing holes in the only thin socks I had and I did buy Lorpen liners from him . Of all the socks I wore these alone have retained their shape and remain good enough to wear.
     
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    I'm so there too. I'm down to counting Mondays....eight more Mondays and then I'm on the plane.
     
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    I leave in 23 days and I am NOT ready. I am NOT in shape. I have NOT walked enough or trained enough, but I have packed and repacked my backpack, and arranged for cat and plant care, and made a meeting place for my granddaughter when she gets to Lisbon after me. The first week will be hard, I know, and my heart will not be the only "Achey-Breakey" part of me.
    So I'll be the slowest one on the trail (again).
    But I'll be on the trail!!!
    Yippee Kayee!
     
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    I have a rational mind also. I love to use it. But it is not enough. Life is much richer than Mr Spock would have us believe. Life can be wonderful for no good reason at all. And the Camino is a the most fantastic place to rediscover the wonder of life. Plan by all means, the rational part of us demands this and it is a good idea. But be prepared to think outside of the plan, to deal with what is rather than what the plan suggests should be. I am so envious, I would love to be going again. Enjoy the total experience, rational and irrational and Buen Camino!!
     
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    Buen Camino to you (mucho!) :)
     
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    We finished the Camino Frances in November 2016 ( SJJP to Santiago) , came home and had a very bad case of the "Camino Blues". The longing for the trail and the people. So in three days we leave for the UK ( a pre-vacation and warmup) Over to SJJP on Aug.10,2017 and then begin the Frances again, this time to Finistere & Muxia and back to Santiago and then we already have our travel arrangements made for the Camino de Norte in the late spring of 2018. This is the effect of the Camino and all it entails . It becomes part of you and you ..it. You try to explain it to people and fall short because you are not describing a vacation. The best way I can explain it, is that mimics life in every detail in a condensed amount of time. Don't over think it, the Camino has an ebb and flow to it, just go with it.

    Buen Camino !!! :)
     
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    Buen Camino to you!
    I just returned from a 24 km. training walk with my backpack - that was really hard. I know i will be in for a treat when i hit the mountains in Spain. So maybe i will be the slowest on the trail....but that's fine.

    Steen (El Camino Tortuga)
     
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    I finished my Portuguese Camino (Rubiaes - Santiago ) in June 2017.
    I booked my tickets to SJPP yesterday for September 2017....
    Buen Camino and enjoy every single moment :)
     
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    We set off August 10 from SJJP :) See you on the trail !!!
    Buen Camino ~!!! :)
     
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    I am having the same thing. I leave 8/14 and I thought I was rational as well. However, I can't stop thinking of the trip. I definitely am trying to have no expectations and have been training for some months with a full backpack but I have changed my mind on various things to bring or not bring.

    This almost feels like a calling that I have some "priest friends" tell me when they decided on a religious life.

    weird
     
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    We leave at the end of August and I feel the same way!! I find myself spending much of my free time reading various threads on this forum. I LOVE IT!!
     
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    I am overwhelmed by all the responses. It seems Pre Camino Syndrome is a fairly common condition (followed by Post Camino Syndrome – something to look forward to).

    The good thing, of course, is that these conditions are benign, actually desirable, although at times a bit frustrating.

    Hope to run into some of you nice people on the trail – Buen Camino to all.
     
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    the number of replies to this thread shows how common this syndrome is.

    oh and I have just added another!!

    The other symptom is the aches and pains in the few weeks before. Every little twinge you never noticed you had you become acutely aware of and you are convinced that some enormous medical calamity is about to befall you. Which of course it doesn't. I know a sports physiotherapist who loves the w€€ks leading up to the local marathon for this very reason !
     
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    What you say is a great consolation to me…
     
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    I have those as well :)

    I just thought I was screwed up
     
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    I know!!!!
    It's like, wait! What was that? Did that hurt before?
    That's swollen. Should that be swollen?
    I've got a headache. Should I get an MRI?
    Then I pour a glass of wine and say my favorite word,
    Whatever.
     
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    We are (many times) talking about the call of the Camino. IMHO, it is like a whispering in the background. but it is a strong whisper, calling us back to the Camino, or, for firsttimers, calling us us to the Camino. You know when you hear it. There is a reason for this calling, so just follow it: It is good for you. Your life needs it. The Camino is a strange force indeed. It is not just a walk, if you understand the calling.
     
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    I have just decided; I cannot resist the callling: I will be wal.king again in Sept. The calling is too stromg, so why not...
     
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    So well said, it seems as if I am in the same boat! I start Sept 1st. Been Camino!
     
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    Or say "lo que, lo que sera" and pour a glass of wine!
     
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    I am in the exact same boat as you!! I finally booked my ticket, ordered my credential and guidebook, and the reality has started to set in! I've been reading this forum, watching videos and reading blogs, examining packing lists and scouring outdoor gear store websites and catalogues. It's very much on my mind and consuming most of my waking moments. My main worry right now is trying to get in enough time to train before I leave so I don't end up hobbling and limping for the first few days and also trying to figure out the best way to avoid blisters if at all possible! Oh and what pack, walking poles, shoes to buy... So many things to think about! Buen camino!!
     
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    I know what you mean!
    Nice, isn't it :)
    Buen Camino!
     
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    Buen Camino peregrino.
     
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    You are! We are! But in a good way.... ;)
     
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    Actually, that is a good approach for many things. The only thing I can think of that you can't buy in any city and most villages is the data in your computer. Why struggle with how to keep your checked baggage under 23 kilograms when you can get what you need on arrival or along the way?
     
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    1. Assessing the gear you've got, realizing it's fine
    2. Replacing the gear that's fine with new gear
    3. Trying to force yourself to leave half the new gear behind
     
  55. wcsjms

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    August 10, 2017(Frances again) and May 15, 2018 (Norte) It's futile to resist the irresistible, the Sept 2016 was just not enough ;)

    Buen Camino !!!
     
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    Enjoy another CF: It will be different than your first, but you will be more knowledgable and confident. It will be a good walk for you, I am sure. (I am 63, retired, so we are more or less in the same league) ;)

    Buen Camino!
     
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    wcsjms Active Member Donating Member Donating Member

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    Thank You Alex !!! 67 here and you are right ... far wiser this time and will be walking it with a new set of eyes (metaphorically speaking). I saw what I saw the last time and after being home realized how much more I did not see ... literally.
    Buen Camino !!!
     
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    You can buy it in any city, large or small, and even in some villages. I bought three in an outdoor market in Los Arcos, €1 each.
     
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    That's good to know - and a good price too :)
     
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    On this point I disagree.
    I bought a pair of socks (camino arrows in the ankles) in Zubiri and walked in them almost daily to Santiago.

    When I ditched my boots after 3 weeks I finished my Camino in socks and sandals!

    Mine might not have been the best plan, I admit, but I did pack far to many pairs.
     
  61. mvanert

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    Well said.. and true.
     
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    I totally agree! I am experiencing the same thing with frequent moments of suddenly feeling as if I am there, can feel the temperature, smell a forest path. Just crazy.
     
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    Yes, crazy but goood...!
     
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    Steen,

    There is no accolade or derision for being the fastest or slowest on the Camino. It took me 9 hours to walk from SJPP to Orrison. What I needed appeared before my eyes, every single time. Unfortunately, I was like Yost in the movie, "The Way," with too big a belly. That is now reducing and will be fully in control when I return next year. Just so everyone checks, not all weight is carried in your backpack and it is a very wise thing to leave as much lard at home as you can while doing those training walks. LOL. :D
     
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    Hey Michelle

    You are right – I will not go into any competition. If I miss my return flight from Santiago, so be it.

    I watched “The Way” just a couple of weeks ago; an old movie, but it still has that “something”.

    I see that you are on your way in more than one sense – that is good – Buen Camino!

    (Me! – I can’t help getting excited at suppertime :))
     
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    (2017): May: Portuguese; Sept: Pamplona-SdC
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    And leave all expectations at home.
     
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    Camino addiction.... the only cure is walking
     
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    I'm in that same place! I leave for Spain on Sept 1 and start my camino on Sept 3. I spent most of today organizing my paperwork/itinerary and practice packing my backpack. I became quite worried that it's too big to carry on. It's 55L! I bought it before doing any research about carry on size restrictions. Live and learn! BUT I'm traveling very light. I packed most of my items into it and leaving the top pocket unused. I cinched down all the straps and it looks like it will make it onto the plane. I also packed a sling bag that I'll use as a day pack (yes, I'm having my pack transported on my first, but hopefully not last, camino). Perfectly fine! Now I'm worried that they will think the sling is too big. LOL! I'm so very very excited! This trip is a gift to myself for my 60th birthday. I'm walking alone - from Sarria to Santiago. A baby camino - but good for a first timer, I hope. I love reading everyone posts! You are all so awesome! Buen camino!
     
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    I am still struggling to get my backpack weight below 8 kilos, but then also I have a backpack, which is on the heavy side, weighing 1670 grams empty. I may be leaving items behind on the trail as I realize I don’t need them – well, not on the actual trail, of course; I will leave nothing on the trail except my footprints.

    I plan to reach Sarria on September 3; maybe we will meet – who know (but, of course, “even the best plan only holds until the first shot is fired”).

    Buen Camino.
     
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    Instead of making a wild guess about what “it” is, you could have read the quote and seen that it was underwear. And yes, they were €1 each.
    But since you’re changing the subject to socks, yes, you still paid too much. I bought a pair of great trekking socks in Los Arcos for €8 and have since wished I had bought more.
    The main point, though, is that the answer to "what to pack?" is "things that you can't buy cheap over here."
     
  72. BillieBob

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    It was 6 months before I didn't wake up every morning thinking about the Camino. About that time a friend told me that after listening to me talk about my Camino he was going to do the Frances. That was all it took. I am returning to the Camino, in September, with him to walk from Pamplona to Finisterre and Muxia. I have the syndrome and love it.
     
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    alexwalker Forever Pilgrim Donating Member

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    The syndrome is luckily incurable. I am returning to start walking from Pamplona 1-2-3 Sept. (Not decided exact date yet, I am very relaxed about it. Have to visit a friend in Madrid first, and who knows how long time that will take ;)).
     
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