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Prehistoria along a very old Camino route (first millennium)

2020 Camino Guides
Camino(s) past & future
2013 SJPP to Santiago in September
2014 Camino Aragon
GR65.3.3 2015, 16, 17
Del Norte 2018 & 2019
Due to the hugely increased crowds on the Camino Frances this season, I am thinking of switching my September trip from the Camino Norte to again walk from Pau, FR to Puente la Reina on the Camino Aragon as I did a couple of years ago. However this time I intend to divert from the traditional Camino at Bedous and follow the ancient Camino route (sign posted GR 65.3.3) and up over the Pass of Pau on the old Roman road. Then down through the Hecho valley to Siresa to Berdun and join the traditional Camino Aragon. With the recent facilities existing at Selva de Oza the entire journey can be made without resorting to sleeping on the ground. http://www.valledehecho.es/informacion_turistica/camino-santiago-puerto-palo-calzada-romana/40/

Anyone want to go along on this adventure? Beginning 5 September until ?
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
Due to the hugely increased crowds on the Camino Frances this season, I am thinking of switching my September trip from the Camino Norte to again walk from Pau, FR to Puente la Reina on the Camino Aragon as I did a couple of years ago. However this time I intend to divert from the traditional Camino at Bedous and follow the ancient Camino route (sign posted GR 65.3.3) and up over the Pass of Pau on the old Roman road. Then down through the Hecho valley to Siresa to Berdun and join the traditional Camino Aragon. With the recent facilities existing at Selva de Oza the entire journey can be made without resorting to sleeping on the ground. http://www.valledehecho.es/informacion_turistica/camino-santiago-puerto-palo-calzada-romana/40/

Anyone want to go along on this adventure? Beginning 5 September until ?
I am interested,I will be in lescar on september 4th. I need to discuss the trip. Please start a private conversation with me-BEEMAN. thanks
 

alansykes

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Except the Francés
I intend to divert from the traditional Camino at Bedous and follow the ancient Camino route (sign posted GR 65.3.3) and up over the Pass of Pau on the old Roman road. Then down through the Hecho valley to Siresa to Berdun and join the traditional Camino Aragon. With the recent facilities existing at Selva de Oza the entire journey can be made without resorting to sleeping on the ground. http://www.valledehecho.es/informacion_turistica/camino-santiago-puerto-palo-calzada-romana/40/

Anyone want to go along on this adventure? Beginning 5 September until ?
Sorry I'll be missing you by a few weeks - hoping to leave Pau around the end of September and, a bit after you turn right to Siresa, I mean to head left up the chemin de la Mâture, crossing the frontier at either the Puerta de Astun or a bit further east at Portalet. Hope your trip works well.
 
Camino(s) past & future
2002, Toulouse/Aragon 2005, Cami S Jaume/Aragon 2007/9, Mont Saint Michel/Norte/Vadiniense 2011, Norte/Primitivo 2013, Norte/Primitivo 2014. Norte 2015, Cami S Jaume/Castellano-Aragonese 2016
Lescar has a great pizza place by the albergue, which also provides one with a spectacular sello.
 
Camino(s) past & future
2002, Toulouse/Aragon 2005, Cami S Jaume/Aragon 2007/9, Mont Saint Michel/Norte/Vadiniense 2011, Norte/Primitivo 2013, Norte/Primitivo 2014. Norte 2015, Cami S Jaume/Castellano-Aragonese 2016
The pizza place in Lescar; Is that the new gite?
No-- by the old one, by the tourisme, not far from the Cathedral.
 

peregrina2000

Moderator
Staff member
Sorry I'll be missing you by a few weeks - hoping to leave Pau around the end of September and, a bit after you turn right to Siresa, I mean to head left up the chemin de la Mâture, crossing the frontier at either the Puerta de Astun or a bit further east at Portalet. Hope your trip works well.
AHA! We now have a clue about @alansykes’ Camino 2019. Don’t mean to derail the thread, but Alan, I hope you will start your own and tell us what you are planning! Buen camino, Laurie
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
AHA! We now have a clue about @alansykes’ Camino 2019. Don’t mean to derail the thread, but Alan, I hope you will start your own and tell us what you are planning! Buen camino, Laurie
Peregrina 2000, I have become interested in crossing the puerto de palo this september. Could you give me some place to find more information about the hike from Lescun to Berun. I can walk alone but hope that there would be someone else coming by in case I get hurt. Thank you!
 
Camino(s) past & future
2013 SJPP to Santiago in September
2014 Camino Aragon
GR65.3.3 2015, 16, 17
Del Norte 2018 & 2019
Peregrina 2000, I have become interested in crossing the puerto de palo this september. Could you give me some place to find more information about the hike from Lescun to Berun. I can walk alone but hope that there would be someone else coming by in case I get hurt. Thank you!
Here you go: http://www.xacobeo.fr/ZE1.11.Aqu.Pau.Vppyr.01.htm
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
Due to the hugely increased crowds on the Camino Frances this season, I am thinking of switching my September trip from the Camino Norte to again walk from Pau, FR to Puente la Reina on the Camino Aragon as I did a couple of years ago. However this time I intend to divert from the traditional Camino at Bedous and follow the ancient Camino route (sign posted GR 65.3.3) and up over the Pass of Pau on the old Roman road. Then down through the Hecho valley to Siresa to Berdun and join the traditional Camino Aragon. With the recent facilities existing at Selva de Oza the entire journey can be made without resorting to sleeping on the ground. http://www.valledehecho.es/informacion_turistica/camino-santiago-puerto-palo-calzada-romana/40/

Anyone want to go along on this adventure? Beginning 5 September until ?
Samoht, Sorry that I missed your conversation in Feb. I am 74 and have been a beekeeper for 50 years,this coming fall. I start walking from Lescar on September 4 of this year. You have made me so interested in the Col de Pau route,that I am going to go that way and have made reservations in Lescun already. I have always wanted to visit Lescun,but it way off-route,but no longer! I have been hiking in the cascades most of my life. I am quite capable of hiking this route alone,but would prefer some company. You were talking about leaving Pau on september 5th,but if you took the train to Orolon,I will be hiking from Lescar on that date. Let me know what you think about things. And,thanks again for telling everyone about this route. Few walk the Argonne,so very very few must go this way. The trail up from Lescun is visible on google maps,so it must be a decent trail.
 
Camino(s) past & future
2013 SJPP to Santiago in September
2014 Camino Aragon
GR65.3.3 2015, 16, 17
Del Norte 2018 & 2019
Hola Beeman, Not long after I wrote the initial posting I bought a ticket to Bilbao not expecting to have any takers on the Luscun to Siresa route. I arrive in Bilbao September 2nd, and probably could take the bus/train to Oloron and get there by the 4th and take a taxi to Lescun. However my entire trip is dependent on how much conditioning I can accomplish before September, and what physical shape I will be in then.. You see I turn 80 in November and sometimes working out with long hikes for conditioning can bring up new physical aging problems. It has been my desire to make this particular crossing for some time now, but my age may be catching up with me to put limits on my hiking. All I can say is that I will keep in touch and let you know my decision by early August. If I return to the Norte, it will be for starting again in Deba where I bailed out last May with pneumonia. Tom
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
Hola Beeman, Not long after I wrote the initial posting I bought a ticket to Bilbao not expecting to have any takers on the Luscun to Siresa route. I arrive in Bilbao September 2nd, and probably could take the bus/train to Oloron and get there by the 4th and take a taxi to Lescun. However my entire trip is dependent on how much conditioning I can accomplish before September, and what physical shape I will be in then.. You see I turn 80 in November and sometimes working out with long hikes for conditioning can bring up new physical aging problems. It has been my desire to make this particular crossing for some time now, but my age may be catching up with me to put limits on my hiking. All I can say is that I will keep in touch and let you know my decision by early August. If I return to the Norte, it will be for starting again in Deba where I bailed out last May with pneumonia. Tom
Tom, I will be 75 in August,so am not a spring chicken myself! I have to work to get in shape,but have been walking every other day with my pack,since fall,am am rounding into shape,whatever that means. Do what you can,as I plan to be there. Sincerely,bruce
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
Oursonpolaire, could you give me the name of the pizza parlor in Lescar. Thanks!
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
Tom, I will be 75 in August,so am not a spring chicken myself! I have to work to get in shape,but have been walking every other day with my pack,since fall,am am rounding into shape,whatever that means. Do what you can,as I plan to be there. Sincerely,bruce
Tom,by the way,I will be in Orolon on the evening of sept. 4.
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
Tom,by the way,I will be in Orolon on the evening of sept. 4.
Tom, by the way,the train now goes to Bedous,which is only a crickets's jump from Lescun.
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
Tom, So how is your training going? Hope to hear from you.
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
I never heard from Tom,but walked from Lescar to Oviedo over Puerto de Palo. The path in France could have been better marked,but was better in Spain. It was a lonely trip over the mountains,and did not see anyone for three days on the trail.
 

TaraWalks

Peregrina without a skateboard
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2016 & 2018, planning for Le Puy 2019/2020ish and for some shorter Caminos stacked
I'm always interested in a new route! Got any pictures? Feel like writing a guide?
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
TaraWalks. Thanks for your interest. Check out previous posts for links to guides. There were people in the pyrenees,but once over into Spain,nobody until camping de silva hostal,which was packed. Then nobody until Hecho. A very private walk. I do not know how to send pictures but wish to. Maybe you can help me.
 

SYates

Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
Camino(s) past & future
First: Camino Francés 1999
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Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019

Now: http://egeria.house/
... I do not know how to send pictures but wish to. Maybe you can help me.
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BC SY
 

Beeman

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
Trail before Sarrance,parajes,crossing road after summit. At the summit that everyone worries about,I would walk along the road,as the shoulder seems plenty wide,and the reccomended way is steep and slippery,as my companion fell several times.
 

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