- Camino(s) past & future
- April (2019)
Hi guys Is the Napoleon route open to pilgrims?
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Hi Monasp, what is the latest advice on taking the Napoleon route?
Do you know the date I start walking?I guess we can ask @Monasp every day of the year what the latest advice is on taking the Napoleon route.
I understand how excited one can be as a new pilgrim but really, does it make sense to ask her today about the weather and trail conditions for the Route Napoléon if you will not start walking today or tomorrow but in 2 weeks' or 2 months' time?
Message from the SJPP pilgrim's office of today. It does not get more "official" than that [Translated from French]:
The Route Napoleon is administratively closed by the Government of Navarre from 1 November to 1 April each year. During the rest of the time from April to October it is either advised to take the Route Napoleon or it is not advised to take the Route Napoleon, depending on the weather but it is not CLOSED !!! [...]. Beware of those people who say" "I was told this or that" .... "I heard from someone who said that they were told this or that".
Go to the pilgrims office on the day of your arrival in SJPP and seek advice for the day of your departure.
Welcome to the forum and the internet, @CillaP .Do you know the date I start walking?
Would love to find out if there were any fines levied?I'm shaking my head in disbelief (about people's behaviour, not about the weather): the First Responders team of Navarra had to rescue 23 pilgrims today - twenty-three people - from the shelter on the top of the Napoleon trail because of the bad weather conditions.
Poor lady! Glad she's safe. The Col is quite close to the road, isn't it?Make sure that you are aware of the weather conditions at altitude (and not just in Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port) if you are walking the Napoleon route in the next few days. It will feel cold. The First Responders team had to rescue a pilgrim today. She was in the forest area near the Lepoeder pass (the highest point of the trail), disoriented, with hypothermia and unable to continue walking.
This means that for the administration it is open but without taking into account the weather. It is only the pilgrims' office that has the weather at the pass and is in contact with the Burguete firefighters and with the Albergue of Roncesvalles. That is why the advices given by volunteers are very important to followI imagine the pilgrim office has no authority over that sign, it looks governmental.
It would likely be better if that 'Ouvert" sign was never there. It does say 'inform yourself about weather conditions', but let's be honest, people are stupid. It's a wonder the species has survived.
It is a nice suggestion @Kathar1na but can’t pilgrims just walk into the Pilgrim’s office and ask? Saves everyone a lot of bother.
I find it very sad that we now need signs And what’s more, they now need explaining!!!@Monasp, could you perhaps please clarify something? What does this sign mean? People say it means that the Route Napoleon is open and that it is safe to go.
They think that when the weather is bad (during the time from April to October) this sign will be changed to say Fermé (Closed). Is this true?
Do you or someone else go to this sign and change it to Fermé when the weather is bad in spring and summer?
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I don't know whether we need them or not. My point is that the sign is there in SJPP, permanently, and as others have indicated, people read only half of what's written on it and spread their half knowledge and misinterpretation in social media where others believe what they read. And not everyone feels an obligation to walk into the pilgrims office. Some people don't even know that it exists.I find it very sad that we now need signs And what’s more, they now need explaining!!!
No. During the summer the sign says OPEN all the time and in smaller letters something like inform yourself about the weather. Yet many people believe there is some power that opens and closes the trail during the summer months and when they see the OPEN sign they believe it is safe to go. That was the point I was trying to make but it is drowning among the many comments.Closed means closed. Pretty simple message. It's in English and French, what don't you get!
I agree with you but no one should be expected play "helicpter mom" to everyone who walks the Camino. People walked the Napoleon yesterday and it was cold, how do you warn people to protect themselves from the cold.@Rick of Rick and Peg, thank you. I don't know ... perhaps it's mainly because inadequate information and misinformation annoy me and because I feel that there's some room for improving the information flow ... the weather services had indicated that it will feel very cold today at 1300 metres on the Napoleon trail in the Western Pyrenees, maybe that was the reason why the First Responder team from Burguete had to pick up three pilgrims today, one from the pass, the other from the emergency shelter and, closer to Roncesvalles, a third one with a broken ankle.
You read the weather forecast and understand what it means for your hike over a mountain. The SJPP pilgrims office has explained in this thread how to do this: you go to their website, in French, called aucoeurduchemin.org, then you find the link that says meteo, then you click on meteo: ports de cize which is obviously where you are going to go. It gives you a detailed forecast for the weather at 1322 metres on the Napoleon trail at 3-hour intervals per day. There's also an excellent article on their website, it always takes me a while to find it again, in French, called "Les dangers de la montagne". Obvious and easy, no? ....I agree with you but no one should be expected play "helicopter mom" to everyone who walks the Camino. People walked the Napoleon yesterday and it was cold, how do you warn people to protect themselves from the cold.
I don't expect this but I'm glad they try. No one here is stopping anyone from doing stupid things but they do give advice. Don't walk in dangerous weather. Don't shake anyone awake at night. Blisters can become infected. Stay hydrated. Walk in sight of others.I agree with you but no one should be expected play "helicpter mom" to everyone who walks the Camino.
By letting them know that they can die from hypothermia. If not from just walking but because they cannot think right and may stumble and become unconscious or get lost or make bad judgements (like not knowing they are in trouble or that they could call for help -- if their fingers work.) Or you could let them know that their rescue could cost a lot. Or that the rescue could kill one of the rescuers.People walked the Napoleon yesterday and it was cold, how do you warn people to protect themselves from the cold.
And so are the helpers on this forumNo one here is stopping anyone from doing stupid things but they do give advice. Don't walk in dangerous weather. Don't shake anyone awake at night. Blisters can become infected. Stay hydrated. Walk in sight of others.
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