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Rain, rain, rain in the forecast! Should I brave it?

2020 Camino Guides

CatPhillips

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2016, Norte 2017, Primitivo 2017, Norte 2019, Primitivo 2019.
What to do? I'm leaving tomorrow for Madrid (from Ohio), planning to go on to Porto, spend a few days and then walk on to Santiago. I've been keeping tabs on the weather and rain is forecast for the next 10 days. Ugh. I'm prepared to walk in rain but this is ridiculous! Should I stick with my plan or abandon it all and go south?! Somewhere warm and sunny? I'm flying home from Madrid November 26th. Here's the weather forecast: Screen Shot 2019-11-04 at 7.38.10 AM.png
 

henrythedog

Loved and fed by David
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2017, 2018, 2019, Ingles 2018, (Madrid 2019 partial - retired hurt!) (more planned)
I’m about to board a flight to Madrid and embark on the Camino de Madrid. Decent weather forecast for the next five days!

If you wait for a dry week in November in western and northern Iberia, you’ll be waiting a long time.

go for it!
 

Jean Ti

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Norte, Primitivo, Frances,Via de la Plata

Camino Portuguese november 2019
I am heading in the Lisbon direction next sunday. I know that it will rain a lot but I prefer rain to snow in Canada!!!!!

If you find to much rain you can always take a bus or train in a sunny direction like starting on Via de la Plata in Sevilla or any other sunny caminos.

Enjoy and GO !!!
 

Kitsambler

Jakobsweg Junkie
Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy 2010-11, Prague 2012, Nuremberg 2013, Einsiedeln 2015, Geneva 2017-19
"Showers" only means some parts will get some rain during the day. It does not mean that everywhere will get a day-long downpour. The forecast looks like one major system, and two minor systems, each followed by several days of unsettled weather. (I'm from Seattle - we learn how to read the rain forecasts hereabouts.)

If you are well-prepared equipment-wise (rain jacket and pants rather than poncho, pack liner to supplement pack cover, extra dry clothes) you'll be fine. As the Germans say, "There is no such thing as bad weather; only poor choices of clothing."
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
If you are opposed to the predictions of rain in Portugal, how about heading to Seville and walking a stretch on the Vdlp. There will be options to return to Madrid from various cities along the way.
 

Jean Ti

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Norte, Primitivo, Frances,Via de la Plata

Camino Portuguese november 2019

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
That sounds like fun. How many people would love to be in @CatPhillips 's shoes?;)
(More seriously, that forecast might give me pause, and get me thinking of other caminos, depending on why I want to go out there in the first place. But if you are prepared for the wet, it would be both a bonding experience with other peregrino/as and seriously character-building.)
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
Remember that the XX% means that there is XX% that it will rain that day. Not that it's forecast to rain for XX% of the day. So, when there's a 40% chance of rain there is a 60% chance of no rain. 😊
 

Annet2020

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Portugues 2020
November will definitively give you high chances of rain, but those 10-14 day forecasts are pretty useless. They might be able to predict the next 24 hours reasonably well, but the longer ones usually keep changing.
 

surya8

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Portugues Central and Coastal 2017 & 2019; Portugues Interior, Sanabres, Fisterra & Muxia 2018
Walked there in late Oct and mid Jan. Here is my post about the winter Camino there: https://www.caminodesantiago.me/community/threads/flowers-on-a-winter-camino-good-news-for-those-who-consider-walking-in-winter.65099/ Most probable it will be a mix of some drizzle and an occasional rain, and also a lot of sunshine as well. It never rained there all day long like here on the coast of the Baltic sea where if rain comes then it stays for days at a time, sometimes weeks. That's one of the reasons I love Portugal - the weather is mostly nice there, no matter what the weather forecast says before you are leaving on the Camino :) Anyway if you have some rain gear and some warm clothes for the albergues you should be fine. People still walk there at this time as it's one of the busiest Caminos, so you could share your emotions about the rain or it's absence with them, they shouldn't mind :) Bom Caminho! :)
 

Vacajoe

Traded in my work boots for hiking ones
Camino(s) past & future
2019 Biarritz-Pamplona-Lourdes
2018 Aragon/Frances/Finis
2018 Operation Sabre
2018 Marin Ramble
It’s winter on the northern ocean coast...of course it’s raining!!!! But it’s likely not going to be for every hour of every day in every city you are walking. If you want to walk the Camino Portuguese, then the answer is simple. So, too, if your desire is simply to have a sunny hike in Portugal.
 

SabineP

Camino = Empathy + Compassion.
Camino(s) past & future
some and then more. see my signature.
Worst day on that prediction is 70 percent chance of rain. That means 30 percent chance of staying dry... :)
Yeah, I know that there is probably a weak link in my train of thought ( I was always awful with statistics when studying ).
Just go and enjoy.
It is much simpler imho to dress for the rain than being dehydrated and drowsy from the extreme heat.

And imagine coming into that particular albergue where they will put your clothes in the dryer and put up the central heating to keep you warm. This wonderful gesture was given to us after a torrential day on the Camino Vasco Interior.
That is pure magic!

Buen Camino!
 
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trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
Here's an article about how meteorologists calculate the Possibility of Precipitation - PoP

 

TMcA

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Pamplona to Santiago (2013)
Le Puy to Pamplona in segments (2013 - 2016)
Pamplona to León
My experience is with the coastal route from Porto which my wife and I walked late last April. We also faced multiple days with forecasts of rain and showers.

If that is the route you are planning to take, it is extremely easy to access public transport for most of the route. Had enough rain for a day? Just jump on a bus or a train to your next stop. Not a strategy for purists, that I admit. Nor if earning another compostalla is important for you.

One caution - lots of hard surfaces underfoot. Didn't keep track of exactly now many kilometers of concrete, asphalt, or mosaic tiles we encountered, but it was too many and was hard on our knees and very fatiguing.
 
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RJM

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
A few times
I really dislike walking in rainy weather. It just plain sucks to me. No fun. Probably because of my time in the army and having to live in the field on miserable, rainy days. Wet and muddy, 24/7. Yuck.
If I was about to walk the Portugues and I saw that forecast I would probably arrive in Madrid and take the bus to Pamplona and start there or Saint Jean. That is assuming of course drier weather is predicted on that route, lol.
 

CatPhillips

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2016, Norte 2017, Primitivo 2017, Norte 2019, Primitivo 2019.
Thanks for all the replies!

Kitsambler, very helpful explanation of weather prediction. I'm feeling encouraged. Combined with Jean Ti's radar map, and Surya8's and Vacajoe's comments, it's not looking as bad as a thought. I am prepared for rain: pack cover, pack liner, rain coat and rain pants, and dry clothes to change into. But am I prepared mentally? I'm getting there.

And yeah, NorthernLight, I guess I do have my heart set on Portugal. I've not been there yet.

VNWalking, you got me thinking about character building! I think mine is built, thank you very much! ;) But you're right, it is a bonding experience. Went over the Hospitales on the Primitivo this spring, during windy, rainy, foggy, impossible weather. It was something to share and remember!

SabineP, wonderful image of warming up after a cold rainy day. Nice memory. I remember arriving at an albergue outside of Sarria, on a cold rainy day. The hosts had a fire in the fireplace, wine, hot soup, comfortable couches, music playing. It was heaven.

RJM, I have considered switching to the Frances. I could start around Sahagun and finish in plenty of time. But, like I said, I kinda want to see Portugal and walk that route. But you never know. If it's awful and I just can't take it, I might end of somewhere else.

And yes, VNWalking, I'm very fortunate to have these choices! Thanks for indulging me and for helping me think about it! Who else can I ask, right? My family doesn't really share my addiction!

Flying out of Ohio tomorrow! So excited!

Cat
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
I don’t know, I hate walking in rain when I am ‘training’...
When I actually walk for real on a Camino, it is different!
ignore the forecasts, go for it!
😁
I know exactly what you mean! I feel the same way!... However I can count on one hand the totally pelting rain I've walked in on five caminos...maybe I'd feel differently if it was day after day.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
I don’t know, I hate walking in rain when I am ‘training’...
When I actually walk for real on a Camino, it is different!
ignore the forecasts, go for it!
😁
I'm the same. When I'm at home I'm a very fair weather walker. On the Camino I have actually had fun walking in the rain! However, it was summer, so it was just rainy, not cold and rainy,
 

TaraWalks

Peregrina without a skateboard
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2016 & 2018, planning for Le Puy 2019/2020ish and for some shorter Caminos stacked
What to do? I'm leaving tomorrow for Madrid (from Ohio), planning to go on to Porto, spend a few days and then walk on to Santiago. I've been keeping tabs on the weather and rain is forecast for the next 10 days. Ugh. I'm prepared to walk in rain but this is ridiculous! Should I stick with my plan or abandon it all and go south?! Somewhere warm and sunny? I'm flying home from Madrid November 26th. Here's the weather forecast: View attachment 66481

My last Camino was 29 days of rain out of 32 walking days. I got used to it eventually :)
 

drvnsmiln

Member
Camino(s) past & future
SJPP - SdC Sept-Oct 2014
SdC - Finisterre-Muxia. Oct 2014
Sarria - SdC Nov 2014
VdlP April - May 2017
In Redondela now. Rain since Porto. Nothing dries out but we have found a self service laundromat in OPorrino. Could be sitting at home WISHING I was on the Camino—- I d rather be here!!!
 

MarkyD

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Francés 31/08/2018 - 20/10/2018
What to do? I'm leaving tomorrow for Madrid (from Ohio), planning to go on to Porto, spend a few days and then walk on to Santiago. I've been keeping tabs on the weather and rain is forecast for the next 10 days. Ugh. I'm prepared to walk in rain but this is ridiculous! Should I stick with my plan or abandon it all and go south?! Somewhere warm and sunny? I'm flying home from Madrid November 26th. Here's the weather forecast: View attachment 66481
It won't be raining all day, there will be passing showers mostly- some will get you and some won't. It's November, so Autumn weather is what it is. You'll still have a great time, rain gear is obviously going to be put to good use. You can let us know what worked and what didn't ;-)
 

Zordmot

First timer Spring 2019
Camino(s) past & future
April-May 2019
I called it quits yesterday in Santander. I've never seen this amount of rain for this extended period of time



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What to do? I'm leaving tomorrow for Madrid (from Ohio), planning to go on to Porto, spend a few days and then walk on to Santiago. I've been keeping tabs on the weather and rain is forecast for the next 10 days. Ugh. I'm prepared to walk in rain but this is ridiculous! Should I stick with my plan or abandon it all and go south?! Somewhere warm and sunny? I'm flying home from Madrid November 26th. Here's the weather forecast: View attachment 66481
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CatPhillips

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2016, Norte 2017, Primitivo 2017, Norte 2019, Primitivo 2019.
I called it quits yesterday in Santander. I've never seen this amount of rain for this extended period of time



QUOTE="CatPhillips, post: 798786, member: 50264"]
What to do? I'm leaving tomorrow for Madrid (from Ohio), planning to go on to Porto, spend a few days and then walk on to Santiago. I've been keeping tabs on the weather and rain is forecast for the next 10 days. Ugh. I'm prepared to walk in rain but this is ridiculous! Should I stick with my plan or abandon it all and go south?! Somewhere warm and sunny? I'm flying home from Madrid November 26th. Here's the weather forecast: View attachment 66481
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Wow! So that must mean it's gotta be over soon, right? Hope you find something fun to do, somewhere sunny!
 

Jeff Titelius

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (León to Santiago) 2018
Go for it! When I viewed the forecast for my own Camino last September, the second week's forecast was all rain. However, nothing but sunshine! Buen Camino!!
 
Camino(s) past & future
Spring 2016: Camino Frances, Finisterre and Muxia
April 2019: Frances, Salvador, Primitivo
Buen Camino, Cat, whatever choices you make. I'll be thinking of you.

Blessings, Priscilla
 

domigee

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
See signature
I know exactly what you mean! I feel the same way!... However I can count on one hand the totally pelting rain I've walked in on five caminos...maybe I'd feel differently if it was day after day.
I’ve had day after day of rain on one (long) pilgrimage.... My walking mate - from Scotland- said he’d never known such bad rain , ever 😳 We even laughed about it, it was sooooo bad 😁 Like you had to empty your shoes after one km.

My point was, when you’re on a Camino, it’s different. At least, it is for me. I put up And I go on.
At home, I ‘d just say ‘I’m not walking today!’.
 
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Delphinoula

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino PdC 2018 Finisterre Muxía 2018
C Franconia 2019
Camino desde Algeciras Sevillia (2019)
Walked in April 2018 three weeks straight in rain along the Atlantic coast. Try to keep you feet dry. Other then that it’s just great. The landscapes are so quiet and refreshing. Buen Camino
 
Camino(s) past & future
Spring 2016: Camino Frances, Finisterre and Muxia
April 2019: Frances, Salvador, Primitivo
Hi Priscilla! Wish you were coming with me!
Me too! (just seeing this now). You are there now, by my calculations, I hope the weather gods are smiling on you and the CP. I'll be thinking of you as you go along. May it be as memorable as your other Caminos!
 

Charte57

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2017, Frances 2018, Portuguese (2019)
What to do? I'm leaving tomorrow for Madrid (from Ohio), planning to go on to Porto, spend a few days and then walk on to Santiago. I've been keeping tabs on the weather and rain is forecast for the next 10 days. Ugh. I'm prepared to walk in rain but this is ridiculous! Should I stick with my plan or abandon it all and go south?! Somewhere warm and sunny? I'm flying home from Madrid November 26th. Here's the weather forecast: View attachment 66481
I just finished the Portuguese on Thursday, it rained every day except for the first two. It was intermittent, sometimes light, sometimes hard. It was ok, but I got tired of being soaked everyday. Even with rain gear, I felt very soggy.
 

Thierry Oppenheimer

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
camino frances
What to do? I'm leaving tomorrow for Madrid (from Ohio), planning to go on to Porto, spend a few days and then walk on to Santiago. I've been keeping tabs on the weather and rain is forecast for the next 10 days. Ugh. I'm prepared to walk in rain but this is ridiculous! Should I stick with my plan or abandon it all and go south?! Somewhere warm and sunny? I'm flying home from Madrid November 26th. Here's the weather forecast: View attachment 66481
Prepare for rain. Enjoy it. It's much needed in the region and the natives don't mind the welcomed rain
 

martyndeh

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Ingles 2013, 2014 Camino portugese 2015,2016
Camino fisterra 2017
I walked the last 100 miles of the portugese in rain with a good poncho and leggins. It rained every day but I was not on my own because there were always fellow walkers to keep you going. Buen Camino
 

Walkalong

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
{Spring- 2017}
Can you please provide a link to the weather forecast that includes the percentage POP (probability of precipitation)?
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
It doesn't have POP, but I love Windy.
It has various forecast models that you can run to track rain accumulation, new snow, wind, etc etc.
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
So do I. Where it has access to live weather radar it can be good. Otherwise I’d say it’s not always right, but it is always confident.
My local weatherman on tv predicts the weather wrong 50% of the time even with live radar. He is very confident, but I wonder why he needed a university degree...any other profession would fire him with those odds.😅
 

Walkalong

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
{Spring- 2017}
Thanks to all. Dodging moose and walking in Newfoundland last week reminded me that in wet, damp conditions a little wind makes a big difference to comfort. Given additional weight of an extra or thicker layer can be hard on arthritic knees, will wait till March or April. Thanks again!
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Del Estrecho, Ruta Fray Leopoldo,
Vía Serrana, Camino Francés
It doesn't have POP, but I love Windy.
It has various forecast models that you can run to track rain accumulation, new snow, wind, etc etc.
Wow - Windy is great! Thanks for posting this. We are in Astorga wanting to keep a close eye on the snow that is coming tomorrow night. This is a big help in terms of seeing snow accumulation. Just what we needed. Windy is now installed on both our phones.
 

VNwalking

Wandering in big circles
Camino(s) past & future
Francés ('14/'15)
San Olav/CF ('16)
Baztanés/CF ('17)
Ingles ('18)
Vasco/CF/Invierno ('19)
You're most welcome. It's a super app, especially if you know some meteorology - but even if you don't.
 

Walkalong

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
{Spring- 2017}
Strongly agree. Understanding the POP is a good start but an hourly prediction of the precip and wind for the day ahead is very helpful, and appreciated.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Del Estrecho, Ruta Fray Leopoldo,
Vía Serrana, Camino Francés
After a few more minutes of playing around with Windy, I’m even more impressed. By putting on the “new snow” tab and clicking “next three days” in the bar across the bottom of the map, I can see that the Camino between Astorga and Ponferrada is forecast to get 20-30 cm of new snow during that time period AND at the same time I can see nearby areas that are not forecast to get new snow that we might like to explore while we wait for some better weather to the west of Astorga. Very useful!
 

henrythedog

Loved and fed by David
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2017, 2018, 2019, Ingles 2018, (Madrid 2019 partial - retired hurt!) (more planned)
My local weatherman on tv predicts the weather wrong 50% of the time even with live radar. He is very confident, but I wonder why he needed a university degree...any other profession would fire him with those odds.😅

I don’t know much about weather, I’m an economist.

There are only two kinds of economic forecast: lucky and wrong.
 

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