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Recommendation for best Ladies Pack

Coo

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Camino(s) past & future
Planning to walk in September, I think from Porto
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
 

nidarosa

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Camino(s) past & future
Inglés 2009+2017, Francés 2012+2018, Astorga-Santiago repeatedly
Hi and welcome! Have you tried them both on, or are they your favourites after doing some research? Both are quite heavy, but that would mean little as long as they fit you well with weight in it. You might also want to look at the Osprey Talon/Tempest models, they are very similar to the Kyte but lighter.
 

C clearly

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Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016), VDLP (2017), Mozarabe (2018), Vasco/Bayona (2019)
The only significant consideration is which one feels better during a 20-km walk with the load you plan to carry. At least test each one on a loaded 5 km walk

Be sure to try with the clothes you plan to wear - both with outerwear like jacket and without.
 
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Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
Do you like the fit and feel of both equally well when loaded with 20 pounds?

If they are both equal:

Are there features on one backpack that you like better than the other? Which backpack has the best usability for you, where it is easy to adjust and easy to organize and easy access exterior pockets, etc?

If the above are nearly equal, then:

Which backpack is better made? Lighter weight? Which backpack costs more, and are you getting the same perceived value as the less expensive backpack?

If the above are equal:

Which backpack has a color you like better? Which backpack is able to be carried on a plane (if either)? Which backpack can be used for multiple roles better (day hikes, multiday wilderness backpacking)?

If the above are still equal, put on a blindfold, have someone flip a coin, and call 'heads' or 'tails'. :)
 

Coo

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Camino(s) past & future
Planning to walk in September, I think from Porto
😳Thank you, I'll look into it more carefully after all those questions?!🤪 My naivety is glaring!!! Is it really realistic to be able test drive a fully loaded pack before one buys it?
 

Island

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Portugues 2019
Pilgrims' Way 2020
Via Francigena 2020
California Mission Trail 2020
Both packs are a bit too long per spec for carry-on / hand baggage, so I would suggest the Osprey Mira 34L as an alternative. It has a different HxWxL configuration. I carried the Men's version Osprey Manta 34L and gave my feedback here:

 
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nidarosa

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Inglés 2009+2017, Francés 2012+2018, Astorga-Santiago repeatedly
One way to do it is to visit a store which stocks both, or your favourite, and ask them to help you adjust and load it - they normally have beanbags, if not, the shop is full of stuff! - to about 6-7 kgs, and wander around in the shop for a good while. You'll soon find out if it's *not* right for you at least.
 
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nidarosa

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Inglés 2009+2017, Francés 2012+2018, Astorga-Santiago repeatedly
@Island Sometimes the official measurements are from the bottom to the top of a full top lid, whereas the actual back system is a lot shorter and the pack can be squished down. My Osprey Talon 44 is 51 cms high in a M/L size, my Tempest 30 even shorter and both have gone as hand luggage. My husband's Osprey Stratos in a L backsize is too long and the back is too stiff to compress it any more.
 
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😳Thank you, I'll look into it more carefully after all those questions?!🤪 My naivety is glaring!!! Is it really realistic to be able test drive a fully loaded pack before one buys it?
Yes. It is not only realistic, but if a store does not allow at least a one week trial after purchase, then walk out of that store and find another vendor.

It takes time for someone who has never worn a backpack to get used to how it feels. It is sorta the same thing as (I imagine) adjusting to the way high heels normally are supposed to feel, when you've only worn flats. You have no reference as a basis for how a backpack is 'supposed' to normally feel.

At first, when trying a backpack, you are able to notice if there are BIG things about the backpack that feel uncomfortable or that do not fit well. Eventually you'll find a backpack which does not absolutely feel immediately uncomfortable or weird. For a new backpack user, you've only reached stage one of acceptability.

Stage two is the lengthy part, but for a beginner, it is good to do. This is the stage where you begin focusing on all the teeny things that were not noticeable before you became used to the new normal of wearing a backpack.

This is the stage where, over a longer period of time -- several days to a couple of weeks -- you are going to put in quite a few hours wearing that backpack as often as you are able: chores around the house, walks in the park, visiting mom to watch football. . .

During this stage, you want to discover whether teeny stuff becomes noticeable. Then, deciding if those teeny things are annoying to the point of aggravation, discomfort, distraction, and dread.

If you begin to dread wearing your new backpack because it is becoming uncomfortable, it gets returned.

If while wearing the backpack, you are constantly focused on how it feels, and cannot ignore it to the point of sort of forgetting your are wearing it, it gets returned. This is kind of a tricky assessment to make, because obviously you will know that you have a backpack on; but you should be able to be distracted easily from its presence when talking with others. or looking at vistas, or when you are thinking good thoughts about the good thoughts you're thinking. :)

A backpack is a tool, and that tool should be comfortable to use. If you find that neither backpack ends up fitting that criteria, keep looking for one that does. Take your time, but don't overthink and stress about finding your backpack. Let your body tell you what is working, and what isn't.

If I can be of any help, feel free to send my a PM.
 

trecile

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Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
Do you like the fit and feel of both equally well when loaded with 20 pounds?

If they are both equal:

Are there features on one backpack that you like better than the other? Which backpack has the best usability for you, where it is easy to adjust and easy to organize and easy access exterior pockets, etc?

If the above are nearly equal, then:

Which backpack is better made? Lighter weight? Which backpack costs more, and are you getting the same perceived value as the less expensive backpack?

If the above are equal:

Which backpack has a color you like better? Which backpack is able to be carried on a plane (if either)? Which backpack can be used for multiple roles better (day hikes, multiday wilderness backpacking)?

If the above are still equal, put on a blindfold, have someone flip a coin, and call 'heads' or 'tails'. :)
May I suggest a final comparison before the coin flip? Which one is least expensive?
 

Sjp007

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2017 St James
2020 St James
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
I have the Osprey Kyte 36L, my daughter in-law borrowed it, loved it and bought the same pack. Then my daughter borrowed it, she also loved it, and also bought the same pack! It’s a fantastic pack and the company guarantees the pack for life!
 
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Camino Frances (2009), Camino Frances (2012), Via de la Plata (2013) and Camino del Norte planned for May, 2015
Hi and welcome! Have you tried them both on, or are they your favourites after doing some research? Both are quite heavy, but that would mean little as long as they fit you well with weight in it. You might also want to look at the Osprey Talon/Tempest models, they are very similar to the Kyte but lighter.
Good points! I have used a Deuter30L SL for several Caminos. The original cranberry colour is all but unrecognizable as the Spanish sun has done its work well. It is a heavy pack for its size and while the model has improved, I think there are better packs out there. Your point about testing and fitting is an excellent one and sometimes just because a pack is labelled as 'Ladies', it may not be as practical as a well designed 'unisex' model. I have to say, if I were to buy new today, I would look hard at the Osprey.
 

Kiwi-family

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Camino(s) past & future
Past: (2012, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2018)-Frances, Baztan, San Salvador, Primitivo, Fisterra,VdlP, Madrid
When you find the perfect pack you will never want to be parted from it. I have just handsewn some webbing onto mine to prolong its life. I am a big believer in mending things and I hope this is the first of many repairs to this pack in the next three or four decades.
The actual brand does not matter because what’s perfect for me might not be for you!

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Coo

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Camino(s) past & future
Planning to walk in September, I think from Porto
Many many thanks for your input everyone, you've given me a great deal to think about! 🙃 I'll be off to see if I can take them on trial for a bit!
 

JanelMcB

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Camino(s) past & future
CF (2018)
In addition to all of the walking/testing advice above, perhaps take a look at the Osprey Lumina 60. It is super light. I'm 5'4". It fit me well. It held all that I needed and more if I wanted. I chose the Sea to Summit Spark SpI (that's an I and not a one after Sp) for my sleeping bag as it weighs less than a pound and compacts down to the size of a loaf of bread. I purchased THE PACKA as my rain jacket. It has a large pouch on its back to go over your pack. It can be put on and taken off without removing your pack. The hood keeps your head dry and will fit over most any hat that you care to wear. They tend to run a bit large, so a size smaller than you think you might need will probably be plenty big enough. I called and spoke with the fellow who invented the garment and took his advice re sizing. It was perfect for me. Also, in the morning, if it's chilly and you want to wear a light jacket for warmth, put it on backwards. When your body warms you can pull your arms out of the sleeves without removing your pack. The shoulder straps of the pack will keep the garment against your chest, but your arms will be free and your body temperature will adjust accordingly. Be sure to carry some Compeed and electrolyte packets. Refill as needed from the many local pharmacia.

Best wishes.
 

Coo

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Camino(s) past & future
Planning to walk in September, I think from Porto
In addition to all of the walking/testing advice above, perhaps take a look at the Osprey Lumina 60. It is super light. I'm 5'4". It fit me well. It held all that I needed and more if I wanted. I chose the Sea to Summit Spark SpI (that's an I and not a one after Sp) for my sleeping bag as it weighs less than a pound and compacts down to the size of a loaf of bread. I purchased THE PACKA as my rain jacket. It has a large pouch on its back to go over your pack. It can be put on and taken off without removing your pack. The hood keeps your head dry and will fit over most any hat that you care to wear. They tend to run a bit large, so a size smaller than you think you might need will probably be plenty big enough. I called and spoke with the fellow who invented the garment and took his advice re sizing. It was perfect for me. Also, in the morning, if it's chilly and you want to wear a light jacket for warmth, put it on backwards. When your body warms you can pull your arms out of the sleeves without removing your pack. The shoulder straps of the pack will keep the garment against your chest, but your arms will be free and your body temperature will adjust accordingly. Be sure to carry some Compeed and electrolyte packets. Refill as needed from the many local pharmacia.

Best wishes.
Thank you !
 

JanelMcB

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Camino(s) past & future
CF (2018)
Thank you !
A couple reasons why the Osprey Lumina is so light, in addition to its material, is the lack of pockets on the belt and no trekking pole holders. I wore a light weight vest with many, many pockets over my very light weight short sleeve T shirts. Everything that needed to be handy and kept safe (money) was kept in that vest. I had the vest on at all times while walking or moving about in an albergue. At night it was inside my sleeping bag. When I showered, it was in a dry bag and in the shower with me.
 

danvo

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2014, 2016, 2019, Camino Portugues 2017
In addition to all of the walking/testing advice above, perhaps take a look at the Osprey Lumina 60. It is super light. I'm 5'4". It fit me well. It held all that I needed and more if I wanted. I chose the Sea to Summit Spark SpI (that's an I and not a one after Sp) for my sleeping bag as it weighs less than a pound and compacts down to the size of a loaf of bread. I purchased THE PACKA as my rain jacket. It has a large pouch on its back to go over your pack. It can be put on and taken off without removing your pack. The hood keeps your head dry and will fit over most any hat that you care to wear. They tend to run a bit large, so a size smaller than you think you might need will probably be plenty big enough. I called and spoke with the fellow who invented the garment and took his advice re sizing. It was perfect for me. Also, in the morning, if it's chilly and you want to wear a light jacket for warmth, put it on backwards. When your body warms you can pull your arms out of the sleeves without removing your pack. The shoulder straps of the pack will keep the garment against your chest, but your arms will be free and your body temperature will adjust accordingly. Be sure to carry some Compeed and electrolyte packets. Refill as needed from the many local pharmacia.

Best wishes.
Sorry, but 60L backpack on camino is totally wrong idea. My wife had 30L Quechua backpack without any problem, (Of course there are better backpacks than Quechua, but I just point to size). Any backpack larger than 40L you want to fill by "only if I need...." things.... (and throw them to the bin after first day.)
 
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October 2020
Hi,

I tried on 11 backpacks before deciding on the Osprey Sirrus 36. I do recommend you hike with your packs with your items you are planning on taking on the camino. We are hiking the Camino Frances in October. We are excited too. My weight I have been hiking in with water is around 16 lbs. I brought my backpack from REI. They encourage you to hike with your pack to make sure you like it. They have a great return policy. You have a year to return a backpack. I did try other Ospreys and other brands. The Sirrus is very comfortable for me. I would recommend hiking for an hour or more to test the packs out. I am taking a sleeping bag. It's not too big, no mat. Buen Camino!!
 
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trecile

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Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
Sorry, but 60L backpack on camino is totally wrong idea
There's no problem with using a 60 liter backpack on the Camino so long as one doesn't fill it up. At less than 2 lbs/880 grams, the Osprey Lumina 60 is lighter weight than the 2.7 lb/1225 gram 30 liter Quechua pack.
 
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gittiharre

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Camino(s) past & future
CF Austria Czech Le Puy Geneva RLS V. Jacobi V. Regia V. Baltica/Scandinavica Porto Muxia
If you have a short back like me, try the Deuter Groeden 30 SL. Very comfortable.
It is compact, but very roomy. Lots of separate pockets, easy to organize your gear. Weighs 1.1 or so kg empty. Love the mesh back ventilation. Dimensions let you take it as cabin luggage. It has been my companion for the last 8 or so caminos.
Mine weighs about 5 kg, fully loaded, but add water and lunch.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino de Santiago, St Jean to Santuago, 2015
Camino Portuguese, 2018
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
I got my backpack at an REI store. The salesman measured my back then had me try 2 or 3. When he had found one we both thought was best, he put weights in it and had me tour the store and come back for adjustments. Still have that pack and have used it instead of a suitcase as it meets size requirements. An important point: must ride on your hips, not shoulders. Have a cover, for rain and so the straps can be contained for carry-on. Once on the camino, you can have it moved each day, or carry it if it’s been fitted well and you recognize what your genuine “needs” are. Or have a really light day pack for snacks, guide book, water..... I think the most important thing for me was the first-having a gentle expert help me find the right one.
 
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Sorry, but 60L backpack on camino is totally wrong idea. My wife had 30L Quechua backpack without any problem, (Of course there are better backpacks than Quechua, but I just point to size). Any backpack larger than 40L you want to fill by "only if I need...." things.... (and throw them to the bin after first day.)
Hi, danvo, . . I would like to explain why I am in disagreement with you on the issue of backpack volume, and with stating that a 60L backpack is categorically 'too big'. I can understand the basis for your concern. Hopefully, my explanation will allow you to understand my viewpoint. agree that having a larger capacity backpack makes one likely to fill it with things not needed.

A lot of people use a backpack for different activities. I use backpacks for day-hiking, multi-week wilderness backpacking, Camino, even sometimes for going shopping :).

I use 55 to 60 liter backpacks. They weigh under 1.5 pounds / 680 grams. They also can be carried on to a plane. One was used to thru-hike the Pacific Crest Trail. And both have been used on Caminos.

On multi-day or multi-week/month trips in the wild, they will carry up to 35 pounds / 15.9 Kg in weight, but most of the time between 17 and 25 pounds.

On Camino, my backpack only carries 9 to 11 pounds / 4 to 4.9 Kg. And I will only use about 1/3 to 1/2 the volume's capacity on Camino.

I will also gently disagree with the concept that a large volume backpack on Camino means that people will fill it up and overload themselves. Overloading comes from lack of knowledge and experience and discipline, not from the backpack itself. When someone is aware of what they actually need, and learns how to not pack items based on fear, THAT is what controls how much and what gets included in the backpack load.

So while one CAN get a smaller volume backpack due to the nature of the Camino and the limited items that actually need to be carried in a pack, it is definitely OK to bring a larger backpack.

Why a smaller backpack?

Sometimes smaller means lighter. That is not always the case, however.

Smaller often will work well for a carry on for a plane. With larger volume backpacks, you definitely want to keep an eye on the size specifications of the length and width of the backpack.

Why ANY backpack?

First is fit and comfort. Larger capacity or smaller, the best backpack is the one that you can live with.

Excellent and Easy Usability. A backpack that makes you go through contortions to pack an unpack stuff is to be avoided. A backpack that makes it hard to access items that are needed often during the day is not ideal. A backpack that makes carrying water harder than easy is to be avoided. A backpack that is so small that you must dangle clothes, shoes and souvenirs on it is a pain. :)

A backpack that is too small in volume can induce usability problems. A backpack with a large volume that has usability issues is that way due to its design, not its capacity.

So the best backpack for a Camino is the one that is the most comfortable and usable regardless of size. :)
 

koilife

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Camino(s) past & future
CF w/ son #1 (2013); Logrono-Leon/Salvador/Primitivo w/ son #2 (2016); Portugues w/ son #3 (2020)
Completely agreed with @davebugg. I carry between 50 and 60 liter pack for fit, and I only pack what I genuinely need. The extra space comes in handy for end-of-Camino shopping, and during the camino (for instance, if helping to carry my son's contents because he was a bonehead and wouldn't listen to his old man on proper climbing and descending technique and got tendinitis . . . but I digress).

I also agree that weight of the pack is far less important than fit. Saving an extra pound / half kilo is irrelevant if the fit isn't quite right. Thus, I would always look for a pack with the ability to make small adjustments (especially for the spine length). The way we wear it in training, at the beginning of a trip, and by the end can be different as we lose weight and gain strength and experience. Look for packs the support making small adjustments to where the straps and back join. Many use a broad velcro that provides excellent adjustment.

The Osprey Lumina and Levity (which is the men's equivalent) are more delicate packs. One has to be more careful managing their gear and their packing. There are more bombproof (son-proof?) and less-expensive alternatives for not a lot of extra weight.

The final comment is regarding ventilation of the back. I absolutely prefer a tensioned "trampoline" back except in winter because it's much more breathable than something that lies flat on the back with air channels, like the Kestrel or Talon. This area is highly subjective.

My final recommendation is for belt pouches, especially if not a regular backpacker.

Another topic not really mentioned is the simple discipline of how the pack is loaded. Keeping your weigh evenly balanced and as close to the body rather than further out makes a huge difference, and straps that allow you to cinch down your volume close to the frame. Some will argue for putting weight higher or lower in the pack depending on whether you do more climbing or descending. I prefer a balanced approach and I simply aim for most weight in the vertical middle and snug towards my back because I like to pack one way every time so I know where everything is and I find it affects my center of gravity least there.
 
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Camino Frances (2009), Camino Frances (2012), Via de la Plata (2013) and Camino del Norte planned for May, 2015
Hmmm...I read and evaluate and try to match the comments with my experience. I first set out on the Camino Francés in 2009...at the ripe-ish age of 60. I had never backpacked in my life, so I was talked into a Gregory Jade 50L (I think it is actually a 40+10)...I quickly realized that I was carrying too much stuff...and the more I divested, the more unbalanced the pack became. I am now 71 and look to set out again in 2 months and it will probably be with my faded, battered Deuter 30L. Every time I practice pack in the bigger (but lighter) Gregory and every time I find I just do not have enough 'stuff' to make a comfortable fit. Yes, I have met peregrinas who were talked into a bigger pack, only to suffer injuries. It DOES happen...and just in case you think I don't know what I am talking about....I have walked at least 7000km in Spain.
 

Island

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Camino Portugues 2019
Pilgrims' Way 2020
Via Francigena 2020
California Mission Trail 2020
@Island Sometimes the official measurements are from the bottom to the top of a full top lid, whereas the actual back system is a lot shorter and the pack can be squished down. My Osprey Talon 44 is 51 cms high in a M/L size, my Tempest 30 even shorter and both have gone as hand luggage. My husband's Osprey Stratos in a L backsize is too long and the back is too stiff to compress it any more.
Quite true! Some packs are more compressible! Your Talon has a removable lid but the OP's Kyte has a fixed top lid, so it would need to compressed 5+ inches to fit in most carry-on boxes; that is highly unlikely, hence my comment that it was too large for carry-on. Ditto for the Dueter - more than 5+ inches too large. Neither pack would be reliable carry-ons.

On the contrary, my suggestion of the Mira has the same weight capacity and nearly identical volume, yet meets nearly every global spec as a carry-on. Hopefully one of these pacl suggesrions will work for the OP!
 

annandkerith

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Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2006), St Olaf (2008), Vde La P (2010), Portuguese (2014), VdLP (2019)
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
Hello - Ann, a 63 yr old who walked the via de la plata last year.
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
I have walked 6 caminos and have always carried a female specific Osprey. My latest (walked the VdP last year) is a fairview 40 - so much easier to access a front loader than a stuff from the top. Only drawback was no space for hydration pack. Not a problem as it wasn't all that hot. Bon chance!
 

JanelMcB

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF (2018)
Sorry, but 60L backpack on camino is totally wrong idea. My wife had 30L Quechua backpack without any problem, (Of course there are better backpacks than Quechua, but I just point to size). Any backpack larger than 40L you want to fill by "only if I need...." things.... (and throw them to the bin after first day.)
You can apologize all you want about thinking a 60L pack is all wrong, but your opinion is just that; an opinion, and of no value to me. I went with the larger pack knowing I would not fill it. It did allow me, however, to help other pilgrims when they were struggling with the weight of their packs. I was able to place some of their items in mine, and then return the items to them when we reached an albergue. I walked my Camino for me, but I went with the idea of being able to help others if needed. The larger pack allowed me to do just that. It's not up to me to tell someone else what is right or wrong. Packs and shoes are two of the most important components when deciding what to use. What works for one may not work for another, but that doesn't make it wrong.
 

danvo

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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2014, 2016, 2019, Camino Portugues 2017
@davebugg (and few others) is very experienced hiker. For him isn't problem to pack 20L into 60L backpack. Because he knows. But someone, who want to walk camino first time (like @Coo) is recommendation for 60L backpack simply not good. If you don't have enough space, you take only really necessary things. Anyway - key is lightweight backpack, not volume.
 

Sjp007

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2017 St James
2020 St James
Quite true! Some packs are more compressible! Your Talon has a removable lid but the OP's Kyte has a fixed top lid, so it would need to compressed 5+ inches to fit in most carry-on boxes; that is highly unlikely, hence my comment that it was too large for carry-on. Ditto for the Dueter - more than 5+ inches too large. Neither pack would be reliable carry-ons.

On the contrary, my suggestion of the Mira has the same weight capacity and nearly identical volume, yet meets nearly every global spec as a carry-on. Hopefully one of these pacl suggesrions will work for the OP!
I have the Kyte 36L and used it as my carry on for the past 3 years with no issue on many different flights
 
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nidarosa

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Inglés 2009+2017, Francés 2012+2018, Astorga-Santiago repeatedly
Your Talon has a removable lid but the OP's Kyte has a fixed top lid, so it would need to compressed 5+ inches to fit in most carry-on boxes
My point wasn't that the lid could be removed but that it shouldn't necessarily be factored into the size of the pack, as the lid can be pulled down lower than the top of the back panel. The message above proves my point. Even my Tempest would be way too big for the hand luggage allowance when packed to the gills and with the lid full and riding on top of the pack. When moderately packed and cinched down it fits under the seat in front of me, as the photo shows. Pockets and lids can be compressed, the back system can't, so by rights the measurements should be based on the length and width of the back system plus the depth of the pack.
 

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Hello - Ann, a 63 yr old who walked the via de la plata last year.


I have walked 6 caminos and have always carried a female specific Osprey. My latest (walked the VdP last year) is a fairview 40 - so much easier to access a front loader than a stuff from the top. Only drawback was no space for hydration pack. Not a problem as it wasn't all that hot. Bon chance!
Yes! To a front loader! So easy to pack and to find things.
 

NorthernLight

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Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy to Santiago via the Frances 2012-2013. EPW2015
Aragonese & Frances 2016
Burgos to Muxia 2017
I like a top loader. I count every gram/ounce, and a top loader loses the weight of the zipper. Secondly, I have so little in my bag and everything goes in the same spot each day, so I don’t have problems finding things.

And where do you put your panel loader while loading it? We aren’t supposed to put the bag on the beds, so bed bugs won’t hitch a ride and so we aren’t getting the mattresses dirty. If you lay it down on the floor, the straps and the back of the pack which goes up against your back will get dirty.
 

nidarosa

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Camino(s) past & future
Inglés 2009+2017, Francés 2012+2018, Astorga-Santiago repeatedly
Not on my Stella (Osprey Escapist 25), she stands up by herself just as well as any top loader. Even if the zipper goes all the way around, you don't have to open it all!
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
I like a top loader. I count every gram/ounce, and a top loader loses the weight of the zipper. Secondly, I have so little in my bag and everything goes in the same spot each day, so I don’t have problems finding things.

And where do you put your panel loader while loading it? We aren’t supposed to put the bag on the beds, so bed bugs won’t hitch a ride and so we aren’t getting the mattresses dirty. If you lay it down on the floor, the straps and the back of the pack which goes up against your back will get dirty.
I have a very lightweight panel loader, a Gossamer Gear Ranger 35. Only 33.9 ounces/962 grams. I'm sure that the zipper doesn't weigh much if any more than the drawstrings and buckles on top loaders. Mine doesn't open up like a suitcase. Rather it zips about 2/3 down from the top on each side. I don't have to completely unzip it to load it up, so I just set it upright and unzip partway down.
 

NorthernLight

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy to Santiago via the Frances 2012-2013. EPW2015
Aragonese & Frances 2016
Burgos to Muxia 2017
I have a very lightweight panel loader, a Gossamer Gear Ranger 35. Only 33.9 ounces/962 grams. I'm sure that the zipper doesn't weigh much if any more than the drawstrings and buckles on top loaders. Mine doesn't open up like a suitcase. Rather it zips about 2/3 down from the top on each side. I don't have to completely unzip it to load it up, so I just set it upright and unzip partway down.
You are no doubt correct about the zipper.
I wish I could test drive Gossamer Gear’s bags, but shipping to Canada and paying customs taxes just kinda makes it onerous if one wants to ship it back.
 

NorthernLight

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy to Santiago via the Frances 2012-2013. EPW2015
Aragonese & Frances 2016
Burgos to Muxia 2017
@trecile - I’m perusing the Gossamer gear website and can’t find the answer ... does the Ranger have an adjustable torso length? The website doesn’t seem to give torso sizes.
 

NorthernLight

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy to Santiago via the Frances 2012-2013. EPW2015
Aragonese & Frances 2016
Burgos to Muxia 2017
Woops, just hunted down Dave’s review of the pack and see it is not adjustable. Thanks anyway and sorry for asking before checking on the guru.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
Francés (2016 & 2017), Norte (2018), Francés-Salvador-Norte (2019), Portuguese (2019)
@trecile - I’m perusing the Gossamer gear website and can’t find the answer ... does the Ranger have an adjustable torso length? The website doesn’t seem to give torso sizes.
No, it does not have an adjustable torso length. They used to have the torso lengths that it fits on their website. Something like 17" - 20", but don't quote me on that!

Gregory has a new panel loading backpack that looks really good to me - the Juno 36 (men's version is the Citro 36)
However, the Juno doesn't have an adjustable torso length either. It's supposed to fit torsos between 14" - 19" / 35.6 - 48.3 cm

 

ChesterChick

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
2017 Camino Francis
2019 Camino Del Norte
Hi and welcome! Have you tried them both on, or are they your favourites after doing some research? Both are quite heavy, but that would mean little as long as they fit you well with weight in it. You might also want to look at the Osprey Talon/Tempest models, they are very similar to the Kyte but lighter.
Hi, I have done two Caminos with my Osprey Talon 44 and I just love it. Will use it again in the fall when I do the Primitivo - and for the record I am 5ft 2in and it fits me perfectly. Good luck with your choice.
 
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Jane S
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances Sept 2017
Camino Frances Sept 2020
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
If you are in the US - and have access to REI sports stores, start there. They are skilled in fitting your pack. AND you can return anything that doesn't work out for you. It took me 3 different packs and 4 different pairs of shoes to get the right equipment. I even brought all my gear to the store to see if it all fit. Packs are very personal and everyone's body shape is different. Until you have walked many miles with a full pack, you will not know what pack is right for you.
 

Coo

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Planning to walk in September, I think from Porto
Thanks but not in the US, I live in South Africa
 

Lady M

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
September - October (2019)
Smart questions and lots of good replies. I chose a Gregory 38L pack. I liked the way it fit and too be honest I liked the gray and teal color. I bought it at the REI store and the salesman put 20 lbs of weighted sacks in it and had me walk around the store. He really encouraged me to wear it for a good 20minutes. Ultimately whichever pack feels best to you is the one you should go with. I will say that the people at REI were great about fitting the pack to me and helping me to get used to it. In fact two weeks before I left on camino I went back to the store with me pack loaded with my gear and had an associate recheck the fit and adjust all the straps on the pack. REI really wants you to be happy with your purchase. Buen Camino!
 

ctay122

Member
Camino(s) past & future
2020 Camino Frances
I am taking my Osprey Tempest and will take my loaded pack to REI to help me adjust it properly. Good idea.
 

Sharonn

La peregrina lenta
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2015
Camino Portugues 2017
Camino Frances 2019
The Osprey Kyte or Sirrus, ladies fit. Especially if you're medium or small build. Happy planning and Buen Camino!
 

Linda P

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino de Frances (2020)
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
I'll be walking my first Camino in September also … the Frances. I have an Extra Small/Small Osprey Tempest 40. It is only 2.262 lbs. I am 5'2" and about 130 pounds. I went to REI and had it fitted for my size.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Commence 27 or 28 April 2021 from StJ
Thanks but not in the US, I live in South Africa
Outdoor Warehouse in SA saved me part way through a backpacking trip through Africa. May have hit the jackpot, but the guy who helped me was incredibly knowledgeable and clearly loved all things outdoor.
 

PaigeMc

Is it time to go yet?
Camino(s) past & future
Portugués Junho 2020
@Coo Sounds like the advice from @tahirih about Outdoor Warehouse might be spot on if you can get to one. (Or weren’t already planning that.)

One more thought to add to everyone’s great advice, this from another first timer... I was lucky to do a fitting (at REI) with many packs. When we loaded up *my* pack with 7kg and I walked around with it, it felt like I was on a sofa. Sooo comfortable. (Don’t forget to wear your boots. Surprising how much that changes things.) As a newbie, I made the error of recommending the same pack to another woman. She instantly hated it; found it horribly uncomfortable. Your.fit.is.everything. And you are the only judge of that.
 

Sorrel

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF 2014
Lots of great suggestions, but all much larger than my choice. I used 22L Black Diamond and loved it. I tend to pack very light (14 pounds) and it was full, not much room for food along the way. Black Diamond makes a 28L, which would be perfect. What I like is that it is that it was the smallest/lightest pack I could find with great hip belt. I am short (5'3") and loved the fit.
 

isaw

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
EPW (2015)
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
I have been walking with Deuter Futura 32 l. A bigger size is tempting to carry more stuff eg. more weight!
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino de Santiago, St Jean to Santuago, 2015
Camino Portuguese, 2018
I like a top loader. I count every gram/ounce, and a top loader loses the weight of the zipper. Secondly, I have so little in my bag and everything goes in the same spot each day, so I don’t have problems finding things.

And where do you put your panel loader while loading it? We aren’t supposed to put the bag on the beds, so bed bugs won’t hitch a ride and so we aren’t getting the mattresses dirty. If you lay it down on the floor, the straps and the back of the pack which goes up against your back will get dirty.

I almost always found a chair beside the bed, or somewhere near.
 

JessArmstrong

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances End of March/April 2020 from SJPDP to Santiago de Compostela
Hi everyone ! My first post, planning my first Camino in September, I think I'll be walking the Portuguese Central Route. So excited!

I'm toying with 2 backpacks and just can't decide and would appreciate any input....
My choice is between the Osprey Kyte 36L and the Deutera Futura Pro 36L

Any advice greatly appreciated.
Hi Coo,
I purchased the women's specific Deuter Futura pro 38 SL about 18 months ago in a sale. Unfortunately osprey isn't available in my home town so I can't compare. Im female weigh 70kg and I'm about 165cm tall. I haven't done a Camino yet with it - but on short trips and wearing whilst training I have been really happy with the fit and feel. It has good back support and nicely padded straps. I'll be taking it on my Spring CF this year. I hope this helps and Buen Camino :)
 
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Meara

It's only rock n' roll but I like it
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Ingles May 2020
I have a Hyperlite Mountain Gear 4400 Windrider. It's about 2.5 pounds and I really like it. Nice hip belt pockets and top loading with mesh on the outside and good water bottle pockets (as well as a water bladder pocket in the pack. I had a Gregory but hated it because it weighed 4 pounds and had too many straps, pockets and space to pack my fears....
 
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notion900

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A lot of people are mentioning Osprey and I totally agree. The female specific ones are excellent. I wouldn't even worry too much about which model, I've got two and I like them equally. Just pick the size that's right.

If you choose to buy a big pack so you can use it for other activities, simply buy a big roll or two of bubble wrap, scrunch it up, and shove it in the bottom of the pack. You don't want heavy stuff hanging about at the bottom and empty at the top.
 

she_real

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Future Camino Frances/ Portuguese (2020/2021)
I have the Osprey Kyte 36L, my daughter in-law borrowed it, loved it and bought the same pack. Then my daughter borrowed it, she also loved it, and also bought the same pack! It’s a fantastic pack and the company guarantees the pack for life!
Hi! newbie question here. 🙂 Will the airline allow Kyte 36L backpack as a carry on? Thanks.
 

SYates

Camino Fossil AD 1999, now living in Santiago de C
Camino(s) past & future
First: Camino Francés 1999
...
Last: Santiago - Muxia 2019

Now: http://egeria.house/
Hi! newbie question here. 🙂 Will the airline allow Kyte 36L backpack as a carry on? Thanks.
Depends on the airline ;-) You will need to measure your pack and compare that measurement with the 'allowed hand luggage measurements' of the airline you are planning to use.

BC SY
 

OzAnnie

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
'CP, Frances,Norte,Salv/prim;Le puy, Inglés, CDM, Invierno, Fin/Mux, Vdlp 2019>Táb/ Prt Levante 2020
Hi! newbie question here. 🙂 Will the airline allow Kyte 36L backpack as a carry on? Thanks.
If you ‘scroll up’ on this thread to @Sjp007 ‘s post Number #34. You’ll see they carry it on
 

she_real

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Future Camino Frances/ Portuguese (2020/2021)
Depends on the airline ;-) You will need to measure your pack and compare that measurement with the 'allowed hand luggage measurements' of the airline you are planning to use.

BC SY
Thank You.
 

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