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Second Camino: the lessons I learnt every day

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Jill
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Portugués, Francés, LePuy, Rota Vicentina, Norte, Madrid, C2C, Salvador, Primitivo, Aragonés, Inglés
The same camino, but oh so different.

Lesson 1 (St Jean): I have the best husband in the world; he doesn’t mind that I leave home for 5 weeks to walk the camino again.

Lesson 2 (Valcarlos): this route is so beautiful and quiet on a sunny June day; all the other pilgrims have gone over the mountain on the Napolean route.

Lesson 3 (Viscarret): European pilgrims close all the windows AND the shutters, even in summer; it’s their culture, accept it.

Lesson 4 (Villava): I don’t like big cities; stay either side and walk straight through them.

Lesson 5 (Obanos): you may meet some unlikely pilgrims: the Australian mercenary who fought in the Rhodesian bush war, reviving long-gone memories.

Lesson 6 (Ayegui): don’t assume that something may have been stolen; you will find it later, squashed up in the bottom of your pack.

Lesson 7 (Torres del Rio): the numbers of pilgrims are overwhelming in June; WHY AM I DOING THIS AGAIN?

Lesson 8 (Navarette): sometimes I just need my own space; budget to include private accommodations. Then spend the evening with the locals at the coolest bar on the camino, unknown to the other pilgrims.

Lesson 9 (Azofra): albergues aren’t so bad; this one’s great, and I have a really nice room mate.

Lesson 10 (Castildelgado): truckers’ overnight stops are excellent value for money.

Lesson 11 (Villafranca Montes de Oca): stop snarling at the other pilgrims and listen to what they have to say instead of being so bloody-minded; you have forgotten why you are doing this camino thing again.

Lesson 12 (Cardenuela): if you meet a pilgrim on the road with seriously bad blisters, get out your first aid kit, apply moral support and lend her your crocs; only when she is safely checked into the next albergue may you continue on your own way.

Lesson 13 (Rabe de las Calzados): expect the unexpected: other pilgrims, who you thought you had left behind, may be legging it through the cities as well.

Lesson 14 (Hontanas): you don’t always get what you wish for; if you plan to stop here to spend the afternoon at the swimming pool it WILL be the coldest June day on record.

Lesson 15 (Boadilla): when a young pilgrim remarks to you that she is having a bad day, reply that it will be better tomorrow. When she thinks about that, smiles, and says “yes”, believe it to be true.

Lesson 16 (Carrion de los Condes): take alternate routes on your second camino, and stay in a different places.

Lesson 17 (Sahagun): slow down, Jill! You walked 40 kms today; didn’t you learn ANYTHING on your first camino?

Lesson 18 (Hermanillos): get back to the albergue by 10pm or you WILL be locked out. You obviously DIDN’T learn anything from your first camino.

Lesson 19 (Villarente): some days are worse than others and it’s just a long slog; that’s life, deal with it.

Lesson 21 (La Virgen del Camino): I love Leon when I can stop and explore the cathedral in my own time, and then just keep on walking . . .

Lesson 22 (Villares de Orbigo): I love, love, love it when I stop at an albergue for the night and there are only 2 other pilgrims, and we each have our own dorm. IN JULY!

Lesson 23 (El Ganso): there are worse things than spending the evening watching old black and white cowboy movies dubbed into Spanish.

Lesson 24 (Molinaseca): don’t stop at the first place you come to, even though you are desperate for a café con leche; the best breakfast could be at the last place, at the top end of town.

Lesson 25 (Cacabelos): OK, some places are just so good, you HAVE to stay there again.

Lesson 26 (La Faba): don’t suddenly fall sideways into the main path when you get a stabbing pain in your knee; there could be an unknown cyclist behind, who will crash into you.

Lesson 27 (Triacastela): if you meet a nice pilgrim, share a bottle of vino, and put the world to rights;

Lesson 28 (Barbadelo): and then arrange to meet up again for breakfast, so you can walk the Samos route together and visit the monastery.

Lesson 29 (Eirexe): be more tolerant of the crowds; you CAN do this.

Lesson 30 (Arzua): the crowds which started in Sarria walk in the mornings; so walk in the afternoons.

Lesson 31 (Amenal): be thankful that you have only one day left, that you have finally got this camino thing out of your system, and that you can go home to your wonderful husband and live happily ever after.

Lesson 32 (Santiago de Compostela): I am spiritually lost. Go and talk to St James; don’t forget to thank him for having arrived safely. Then next year, go back to the beginning, start again and learn something MEANINGFUL.

Jill
 
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Thanks Jill, wish i woulda met you on my first Camino, I needed to do Samos. Oct was quiet and sometimes lonely, but the people I did meet had your outlook. Second one should be soon.
 
The focus is on reducing the risk of failure through being well prepared. 2nd ed.
Thanks Jill for sharing your wisdom.
 
The same camino, but oh so different.

Lesson 1 (St Jean): I have the best husband in the world; he doesn’t mind that I leave home for 5 weeks to walk the camino again.

Lesson 2 (Valcarlos): this route is so beautiful and quiet on a sunny June day; all the other pilgrims have gone over the mountain on the Napolean route.

Lesson 3 (Viscarret): European pilgrims close all the windows AND the shutters, even in summer; it’s their culture, accept it.

Lesson 4 (Villava): I don’t like big cities; stay either side and walk straight through them.

Lesson 5 (Obanos): you may meet some unlikely pilgrims: the Australian mercenary who fought in the Rhodesian bush war, reviving long-gone memories.

Lesson 6 (Ayegui): don’t assume that something may have been stolen; you will find it later, squashed up in the bottom of your pack.

Lesson 7 (Torres del Rio): the numbers of pilgrims are overwhelming in June; WHY AM I DOING THIS AGAIN?

Lesson 8 (Navarette): sometimes I just need my own space; budget to include private accommodations. Then spend the evening with the locals at the coolest bar on the camino, unknown to the other pilgrims.

Lesson 9 (Azofra): albergues aren’t so bad; this one’s great, and I have a really nice room mate.

Lesson 10 (Castildelgado): truckers’ overnight stops are excellent value for money.

Lesson 11 (Villafranca Montes de Oca): stop snarling at the other pilgrims and listen to what they have to say instead of being so bloody-minded; you have forgotten why you are doing this camino thing again.

Lesson 12 (Cardenuela): if you meet a pilgrim on the road with seriously bad blisters, get out your first aid kit, apply moral support and lend her your crocs; only when she is safely checked into the next albergue may you continue on your own way.

Lesson 13 (Rabe de las Calzados): expect the unexpected: other pilgrims, who you thought you had left behind, may be legging it through the cities as well.

Lesson 14 (Hontanas): you don’t always get what you wish for; if you plan to stop here to spend the afternoon at the swimming pool it WILL be the coldest June day on record.

Lesson 15 (Boadilla): when a young pilgrim remarks to you that she is having a bad day, reply that it will be better tomorrow. When she thinks about that, smiles, and says “yes”, believe it to be true.

Lesson 16 (Carrion de los Condes): take alternate routes on your second camino, and stay in a different places.

Lesson 17 (Sahagun): slow down, Jill! You walked 40 kms today; didn’t you learn ANYTHING on your first camino?

Lesson 18 (Hermanillos): get back to the albergue by 10pm or you WILL be locked out. You obviously DIDN’T learn anything from your first camino.

Lesson 19 (Villarente): some days are worse than others and it’s just a long slog; that’s life, deal with it.

Lesson 21 (La Virgen del Camino): I love Leon when I can stop and explore the cathedral in my own time, and then just keep on walking . . .

Lesson 22 (Villares de Orbigo): I love, love, love it when I stop at an albergue for the night and there are only 2 other pilgrims, and we each have our own dorm. IN JULY!

Lesson 23 (El Ganso): there are worse things than spending the evening watching old black and white cowboy movies dubbed into Spanish.

Lesson 24 (Molinaseca): don’t stop at the first place you come to, even though you are desperate for a café con leche; the best breakfast could be at the last place, at the top end of town.

Lesson 25 (Cacabelos): OK, some places are just so good, you HAVE to stay there again.

Lesson 26 (La Faba): don’t suddenly fall sideways into the main path when you get a stabbing pain in your knee; there could be an unknown cyclist behind, who will crash into you.

Lesson 27 (Triacastela): if you meet a nice pilgrim, share a bottle of vino, and put the world to rights;

Lesson 28 (Barbadelo): and then arrange to meet up again for breakfast, so you can walk the Samos route together and visit the monastery.

Lesson 29 (Eirexe): be more tolerant of the crowds; you CAN do this.

Lesson 30 (Arzua): the crowds which started in Sarria walk in the mornings; so walk in the afternoons.

Lesson 31 (Amenal): be thankful that you have only one day left, that you have finally got this camino thing out of your system, and that you can go home to your wonderful husband and live happily ever after.

Lesson 32 (Santiago de Compostela): I am spiritually lost. Go and talk to St James; don’t forget to thank him for having arrived safely. Then next year, go back to the beginning, start again and learn something MEANINGFUL.

Jill
I think you wonderful husband 'doesn't mind' that you leave for weeks to walk because he loves reading what you have to say about it when you get home.
 
The focus is on reducing the risk of failure through being well prepared. 2nd ed.
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Great post. Amazing how wisdom can be so simple.
The same camino, but oh so different.

Lesson 1 (St Jean): I have the best husband in the world; he doesn’t mind that I leave home for 5 weeks to walk the camino again.

Lesson 2 (Valcarlos): this route is so beautiful and quiet on a sunny June day; all the other pilgrims have gone over the mountain on the Napolean route.

Lesson 3 (Viscarret): European pilgrims close all the windows AND the shutters, even in summer; it’s their culture, accept it.

Lesson 4 (Villava): I don’t like big cities; stay either side and walk straight through them.

Lesson 5 (Obanos): you may meet some unlikely pilgrims: the Australian mercenary who fought in the Rhodesian bush war, reviving long-gone memories.

Lesson 6 (Ayegui): don’t assume that something may have been stolen; you will find it later, squashed up in the bottom of your pack.

Lesson 7 (Torres del Rio): the numbers of pilgrims are overwhelming in June; WHY AM I DOING THIS AGAIN?

Lesson 8 (Navarette): sometimes I just need my own space; budget to include private accommodations. Then spend the evening with the locals at the coolest bar on the camino, unknown to the other pilgrims.

Lesson 9 (Azofra): albergues aren’t so bad; this one’s great, and I have a really nice room mate.

Lesson 10 (Castildelgado): truckers’ overnight stops are excellent value for money.

Lesson 11 (Villafranca Montes de Oca): stop snarling at the other pilgrims and listen to what they have to say instead of being so bloody-minded; you have forgotten why you are doing this camino thing again.

Lesson 12 (Cardenuela): if you meet a pilgrim on the road with seriously bad blisters, get out your first aid kit, apply moral support and lend her your crocs; only when she is safely checked into the next albergue may you continue on your own way.

Lesson 13 (Rabe de las Calzados): expect the unexpected: other pilgrims, who you thought you had left behind, may be legging it through the cities as well.

Lesson 14 (Hontanas): you don’t always get what you wish for; if you plan to stop here to spend the afternoon at the swimming pool it WILL be the coldest June day on record.

Lesson 15 (Boadilla): when a young pilgrim remarks to you that she is having a bad day, reply that it will be better tomorrow. When she thinks about that, smiles, and says “yes”, believe it to be true.

Lesson 16 (Carrion de los Condes): take alternate routes on your second camino, and stay in a different places.

Lesson 17 (Sahagun): slow down, Jill! You walked 40 kms today; didn’t you learn ANYTHING on your first camino?

Lesson 18 (Hermanillos): get back to the albergue by 10pm or you WILL be locked out. You obviously DIDN’T learn anything from your first camino.

Lesson 19 (Villarente): some days are worse than others and it’s just a long slog; that’s life, deal with it.

Lesson 21 (La Virgen del Camino): I love Leon when I can stop and explore the cathedral in my own time, and then just keep on walking . . .

Lesson 22 (Villares de Orbigo): I love, love, love it when I stop at an albergue for the night and there are only 2 other pilgrims, and we each have our own dorm. IN JULY!

Lesson 23 (El Ganso): there are worse things than spending the evening watching old black and white cowboy movies dubbed into Spanish.

Lesson 24 (Molinaseca): don’t stop at the first place you come to, even though you are desperate for a café con leche; the best breakfast could be at the last place, at the top end of town.

Lesson 25 (Cacabelos): OK, some places are just so good, you HAVE to stay there again.

Lesson 26 (La Faba): don’t suddenly fall sideways into the main path when you get a stabbing pain in your knee; there could be an unknown cyclist behind, who will crash into you.

Lesson 27 (Triacastela): if you meet a nice pilgrim, share a bottle of vino, and put the world to rights;

Lesson 28 (Barbadelo): and then arrange to meet up again for breakfast, so you can walk the Samos route together and visit the monastery.

Lesson 29 (Eirexe): be more tolerant of the crowds; you CAN do this.

Lesson 30 (Arzua): the crowds which started in Sarria walk in the mornings; so walk in the afternoons.

Lesson 31 (Amenal): be thankful that you have only one day left, that you have finally got this camino thing out of your system, and that you can go home to your wonderful husband and live happily ever after.

Lesson 32 (Santiago de Compostela): I am spiritually lost. Go and talk to St James; don’t forget to thank him for having arrived safely. Then next year, go back to the beginning, start again and learn something MEANINGFUL.

Jill
. What a wonderful post.There should be a forum category "Compulsory readings for newbys" for posts like this.Your love of the Camino shines throughout.God Bless,thank you.
 
The focus is on reducing the risk of failure through being well prepared. 2nd ed.
Hi Jacques-D, I will certainly be keeping an eye out. I will be starting from SJPDP 2 days after Margaret, so I might catch up. Jill
 
hi jill be happy john.;);)
 
Awesome. Loved reading this. Thanks for sharing.
 
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The same camino, but oh so different.

Lesson 1 (St Jean): I have the best husband in the world; he doesn’t mind that I leave home for 5 weeks to walk the camino again.

Lesson 2 (Valcarlos): this route is so beautiful and quiet on a sunny June day; all the other pilgrims have gone over the mountain on the Napolean route.

Lesson 3 (Viscarret): European pilgrims close all the windows AND the shutters, even in summer; it’s their culture, accept it.

Lesson 4 (Villava): I don’t like big cities; stay either side and walk straight through them.

Lesson 5 (Obanos): you may meet some unlikely pilgrims: the Australian mercenary who fought in the Rhodesian bush war, reviving long-gone memories.

Lesson 6 (Ayegui): don’t assume that something may have been stolen; you will find it later, squashed up in the bottom of your pack.

Lesson 7 (Torres del Rio): the numbers of pilgrims are overwhelming in June; WHY AM I DOING THIS AGAIN?

Lesson 8 (Navarette): sometimes I just need my own space; budget to include private accommodations. Then spend the evening with the locals at the coolest bar on the camino, unknown to the other pilgrims.

Lesson 9 (Azofra): albergues aren’t so bad; this one’s great, and I have a really nice room mate.

Lesson 10 (Castildelgado): truckers’ overnight stops are excellent value for money.

Lesson 11 (Villafranca Montes de Oca): stop snarling at the other pilgrims and listen to what they have to say instead of being so bloody-minded; you have forgotten why you are doing this camino thing again.

Lesson 12 (Cardenuela): if you meet a pilgrim on the road with seriously bad blisters, get out your first aid kit, apply moral support and lend her your crocs; only when she is safely checked into the next albergue may you continue on your own way.

Lesson 13 (Rabe de las Calzados): expect the unexpected: other pilgrims, who you thought you had left behind, may be legging it through the cities as well.

Lesson 14 (Hontanas): you don’t always get what you wish for; if you plan to stop here to spend the afternoon at the swimming pool it WILL be the coldest June day on record.

Lesson 15 (Boadilla): when a young pilgrim remarks to you that she is having a bad day, reply that it will be better tomorrow. When she thinks about that, smiles, and says “yes”, believe it to be true.

Lesson 16 (Carrion de los Condes): take alternate routes on your second camino, and stay in a different places.

Lesson 17 (Sahagun): slow down, Jill! You walked 40 kms today; didn’t you learn ANYTHING on your first camino?

Lesson 18 (Hermanillos): get back to the albergue by 10pm or you WILL be locked out. You obviously DIDN’T learn anything from your first camino.

Lesson 19 (Villarente): some days are worse than others and it’s just a long slog; that’s life, deal with it.

Lesson 21 (La Virgen del Camino): I love Leon when I can stop and explore the cathedral in my own time, and then just keep on walking . . .

Lesson 22 (Villares de Orbigo): I love, love, love it when I stop at an albergue for the night and there are only 2 other pilgrims, and we each have our own dorm. IN JULY!

Lesson 23 (El Ganso): there are worse things than spending the evening watching old black and white cowboy movies dubbed into Spanish.

Lesson 24 (Molinaseca): don’t stop at the first place you come to, even though you are desperate for a café con leche; the best breakfast could be at the last place, at the top end of town.

Lesson 25 (Cacabelos): OK, some places are just so good, you HAVE to stay there again.

Lesson 26 (La Faba): don’t suddenly fall sideways into the main path when you get a stabbing pain in your knee; there could be an unknown cyclist behind, who will crash into you.

Lesson 27 (Triacastela): if you meet a nice pilgrim, share a bottle of vino, and put the world to rights;

Lesson 28 (Barbadelo): and then arrange to meet up again for breakfast, so you can walk the Samos route together and visit the monastery.

Lesson 29 (Eirexe): be more tolerant of the crowds; you CAN do this.

Lesson 30 (Arzua): the crowds which started in Sarria walk in the mornings; so walk in the afternoons.

Lesson 31 (Amenal): be thankful that you have only one day left, that you have finally got this camino thing out of your system, and that you can go home to your wonderful husband and live happily ever after.

Lesson 32 (Santiago de Compostela): I am spiritually lost. Go and talk to St James; don’t forget to thank him for having arrived safely. Then next year, go back to the beginning, start again and learn something MEANINGFUL.

Jill[/QUOTE
 
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The same camino, but oh so different.

Lesson 1 (St Jean): I have the best husband in the world; he doesn’t mind that I leave home for 5 weeks to walk the camino again.

Lesson 2 (Valcarlos): this route is so beautiful and quiet on a sunny June day; all the other pilgrims have gone over the mountain on the Napolean route.

Lesson 3 (Viscarret): European pilgrims close all the windows AND the shutters, even in summer; it’s their culture, accept it.

Lesson 4 (Villava): I don’t like big cities; stay either side and walk straight through them.

Lesson 5 (Obanos): you may meet some unlikely pilgrims: the Australian mercenary who fought in the Rhodesian bush war, reviving long-gone memories.

Lesson 6 (Ayegui): don’t assume that something may have been stolen; you will find it later, squashed up in the bottom of your pack.

Lesson 7 (Torres del Rio): the numbers of pilgrims are overwhelming in June; WHY AM I DOING THIS AGAIN?

Lesson 8 (Navarette): sometimes I just need my own space; budget to include private accommodations. Then spend the evening with the locals at the coolest bar on the camino, unknown to the other pilgrims.

Lesson 9 (Azofra): albergues aren’t so bad; this one’s great, and I have a really nice room mate.

Lesson 10 (Castildelgado): truckers’ overnight stops are excellent value for money.

Lesson 11 (Villafranca Montes de Oca): stop snarling at the other pilgrims and listen to what they have to say instead of being so bloody-minded; you have forgotten why you are doing this camino thing again.

Lesson 12 (Cardenuela): if you meet a pilgrim on the road with seriously bad blisters, get out your first aid kit, apply moral support and lend her your crocs; only when she is safely checked into the next albergue may you continue on your own way.

Lesson 13 (Rabe de las Calzados): expect the unexpected: other pilgrims, who you thought you had left behind, may be legging it through the cities as well.

Lesson 14 (Hontanas): you don’t always get what you wish for; if you plan to stop here to spend the afternoon at the swimming pool it WILL be the coldest June day on record.

Lesson 15 (Boadilla): when a young pilgrim remarks to you that she is having a bad day, reply that it will be better tomorrow. When she thinks about that, smiles, and says “yes”, believe it to be true.

Lesson 16 (Carrion de los Condes): take alternate routes on your second camino, and stay in a different places.

Lesson 17 (Sahagun): slow down, Jill! You walked 40 kms today; didn’t you learn ANYTHING on your first camino?

Lesson 18 (Hermanillos): get back to the albergue by 10pm or you WILL be locked out. You obviously DIDN’T learn anything from your first camino.

Lesson 19 (Villarente): some days are worse than others and it’s just a long slog; that’s life, deal with it.

Lesson 21 (La Virgen del Camino): I love Leon when I can stop and explore the cathedral in my own time, and then just keep on walking . . .

Lesson 22 (Villares de Orbigo): I love, love, love it when I stop at an albergue for the night and there are only 2 other pilgrims, and we each have our own dorm. IN JULY!

Lesson 23 (El Ganso): there are worse things than spending the evening watching old black and white cowboy movies dubbed into Spanish.

Lesson 24 (Molinaseca): don’t stop at the first place you come to, even though you are desperate for a café con leche; the best breakfast could be at the last place, at the top end of town.

Lesson 25 (Cacabelos): OK, some places are just so good, you HAVE to stay there again.

Lesson 26 (La Faba): don’t suddenly fall sideways into the main path when you get a stabbing pain in your knee; there could be an unknown cyclist behind, who will crash into you.

Lesson 27 (Triacastela): if you meet a nice pilgrim, share a bottle of vino, and put the world to rights;

Lesson 28 (Barbadelo): and then arrange to meet up again for breakfast, so you can walk the Samos route together and visit the monastery.

Lesson 29 (Eirexe): be more tolerant of the crowds; you CAN do this.

Lesson 30 (Arzua): the crowds which started in Sarria walk in the mornings; so walk in the afternoons.

Lesson 31 (Amenal): be thankful that you have only one day left, that you have finally got this camino thing out of your system, and that you can go home to your wonderful husband and live happily ever after.

Lesson 32 (Santiago de Compostela): I am spiritually lost. Go and talk to St James; don’t forget to thank him for having arrived safely. Then next year, go back to the beginning, start again and learn something MEANINGFUL.

Jill
So Jill, did you do a third Camino? and did you learn something meaningful? I walked three Camino Frances from SJPDP to Muxia/Finisterre in 2013, 2014, and then unexpectedly in 2016 after my daughter died suddenly in October 2015.. I was having trouble with the loss and decided to walk again in May 2016. I walked and cried until I couldn't cry anymore. Luckily I found her on the way just outside of Belorado and found some peace.
 

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