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Hi, four of us are starting out from St. Jean next Thursday 9th June to walk the Frances once more. We’ll be staying in the albergue in Roncevalles on Thursday night and are wondering whether we need lightweight sleeping bags rather than our ultralight silk liners. I can’t recall whether blankets are available at Roncevalles in which case we’d probably be fine with the liners. Comments and advice are much welcomed. Thanks.
 
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Hi, four of us are starting out from St. Jean next Thursday 9th June to walk the Frances once more. We’ll be staying in the albergue in Roncevalles on Thursday night and are wondering whether we need lightweight sleeping bags rather than our ultralight silk liners. I can’t recall whether blankets are available at Roncevalles in which case we’d probably be fine with the liners. Comments and advice are much welcomed. Thanks.
Hi. I’ve just got back from SJPP to Burgos. Didn’t take a sleeping bag and everywhere had blankets which we actually didn’t need. Also loads of rooms on each day and didn’t encounter any bed race at all.
 
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Hi. I’ve just got back from SJPP to Burgos. Didn’t take a sleeping bag and everywhere had blankets which we actually didn’t need. Also loads of rooms on each day and didn’t encounter any bed race at all.
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Ah - good to hear, many thanks
 

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Agree with Mark Stevens...we are currently in Burgos and have travelled with sleep liners only and have been more than comfortable every night 🛌
 

lt56ny

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No blankets are available at roncesvalles, but it should be warm enough without them. If not just wear extra clothes.
If I was walking in June. Which I never would especially because I can pick and choose when I walk now. I would ONLY ever have a sleep sack. Who needs even a little extra weight and a more crowded bag.
 

Tom Hagger

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I carried a sleeping bag only for a January/February Camino. A silk liner is certainly fine from April to October unless you are particularly sensitive to the occasional cooler night. Tom
 
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Looking at weather forecasts this first week in June I see temps on CF at Leon down to 48 degrees. Just wondering what the temp is in the albergue then (6am) and if a 8 ounce silk bag will be comfortable.
 
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Lisa98663

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Are silk liners preferred over microfiber or cotton liners? Looking for liner recommendations.
 
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The zipper on my silk liner broke after my Camino, so I decided to replace the liner with a less expensive polyester one. The new liner feels about twice as heavy, but it was less than half the cost. The silk liner will still be used since it had a full zip and did double duty as a sheet in those hotels that only have duvets and no sheets.
 
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Are silk liners preferred over microfiber or cotton liners? Looking for liner recommendations.
Silk liner works really well. I only used it twice on my recent camino. Just got back a week ago.
 
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Embee12

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The zipper on my silk liner broke after my Camino, so I decided to replace the liner with a less expensive polyester one. The new liner feels about twice as heavy, but it was less than half the cost. The silk liner will still be used since it had a full zip and did double duty as a sheet in those hotels that only have duvets and no sheets.
@Bill's_Walking Can you recommend the brand of silk sleep liner? I look on Amazon, but there are so many, who knows what to get. I want a zipper on mine, too - even, better, zipper on both sides. Thanks.
 
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J Willhaus

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I think we have both Cocoon and Sea to Summit liners. I did read where someone bought an inexpensive off brand from Amazon and it ripped through the 2nd night so we paid bigger bucks for name brands. The ones we use have lasted several years of pilgrim and hospitalero service.
 
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@Bill's_Walking Can you recommend the brand of silk sleep liner? I look on Amazon, but there are so many, who knows what to get. I want a zipper on mine, too - even, better, zipper on both sides. Thanks.
I purchased "Yen's Mulberry Silk Sleeping Bag Liner" in extra wide. I got the extra wide because I was not using it as a liner and if it was cold, I was going to use a down blanket inside the liner. The nice thing about this one is the zipper is full length and goes across the bottom. I did not have to shimmy into it like other liners that do not have a full zip.
 

Embee12

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I'm walking on CF in October - silk sleep liner only, or include lightweight blanket, too? (I don't like sleeping bags.)
I purchased "Yen's Mulberry Silk Sleeping Bag Liner" in extra wide. I got the extra wide because I was not using it as a liner and if it was cold, I was going to use a down blanket inside the liner. The nice thing about this one is the zipper is full length and goes across the bottom. I did not have to shimmy into it like other liners that do not have a full zip.
That specific one you indicate seems to be out of stock but there is a "used - like new" one (which I'll pass on). However, @Marbe2 recommends: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078HQ12HV/?tag=casaivar02-20. I think that looks about the same... "mulberry silk," etc.

Also: I was told I should also bring a blanket (or sleeping bag) for October... I'm one of the dislike mummy-enclosed type of sleepers (which is why I like the recommended extra-large liner), and so would opt for a blanket or at a sleeping bag that I would unzip into a square. What are some lightweight blanket ideas? (I'm a bit of a warm sleeper.) I've certainly looked at the "best of"s and comparisons, etc., but wanted to hear from you all. FWIW: I will be staying in private rooms, whether in albergues or hostals, CRs, etc.

Thanks.
 
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J Willhaus

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I'm walking on CF in October - silk sleep liner only, or include lightweight blanket, too? (I don't like sleeping bags.)

That specific one you indicate seems to be out of stock but there is a "used - like new" one (which I'll pass on). However, @Marbe2 recommends: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078HQ12HV/?tag=casaivar02-20. I think that looks about the same... "mulberry silk," etc.

Also: I was told I should also bring a blanket (or sleeping bag) for October... I'm one of the dislike mummy-enclosed type of sleepers (which is why I like the recommended extra-large liner), and so would opt for a blanket or at a sleeping bag that I would unzip into a square. What are some lightweight blanket ideas? (I'm a bit of a warm sleeper.) I've certainly looked at the "best of"s and comparisons, etc., but wanted to hear from you all. FWIW: I will be staying in private rooms, whether in albergues or hostals, CRs, etc.

Thanks.
An army poncho liner, a down throw, a fleece liner bag? I have all three here at home. Have used the poncho liners a couple of Caminos.
 

peregrin peregrina

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I carried a sleeping bag only for a January/February Camino. A silk liner is certainly fine from April to October unless you are particularly sensitive to the occasional cooler night. Tom
sorry i disagree! i took a only a liner this past april thru june on the CF from roncesvalles on and had many sleepless freezing nights in albergues who did not provide blankets or heat. there are pilgrims who insist on sleeping with windows open no matter how cold it is outside " to get fresh air" particularly in places with those old stone walls it gets pretty darn cold! if i ever go again i'll at least take a lightweight down quilt if not a sleeping bag!
 
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I'm walking on CF in October - silk sleep liner only, or include lightweight blanket, too? (I don't like sleeping bags.)

That specific one you indicate seems to be out of stock but there is a "used - like new" one (which I'll pass on). However, @Marbe2 recommends: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078HQ12HV/?tag=casaivar02-20. I think that looks about the same... "mulberry silk," etc.

Also: I was told I should also bring a blanket (or sleeping bag) for October... I'm one of the dislike mummy-enclosed type of sleepers (which is why I like the recommended extra-large liner), and so would opt for a blanket or at a sleeping bag that I would unzip into a square. What are some lightweight blanket ideas? (I'm a bit of a warm sleeper.) I've certainly looked at the "best of"s and comparisons, etc., but wanted to hear from you all. FWIW: I will be staying in private rooms, whether in albergues or hostals, CRs, etc.

Thanks.
I don't think that Browint liner has a zipper. I see in the description is has gussets and they seem to be mutually exclusive with zippers. I used a down blanket that was really light weight.
 

Lisa98663

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I don't think that Browint liner has a zipper. I see in the description is has gussets and they seem to be mutually exclusive with zippers. I used a down blanket that was really light weight.
They have one that is a silk and cotton blend with zippers. I just ordered two.
 

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In the summer, you should be fine with liners
Some might be, and some won't. Honestly, this year in Burgos was the first time in my pilgrim life, going back 28 years, that I have seen anyone sleeping in just a liner.

At least a light sleeping bag is an essential for most people, although if you are one of the unusual exceptions, good for you.

Blankets are fewer and farther between than they were pre-covid, and despite the current heat generally in Spain, it is actually a cooler year, so that at certain altitudes and in certain weather, just a liner simply would not do.
 

Embee12

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I don't think that Browint liner has a zipper. I see in the description is has gussets and they seem to be mutually exclusive with zippers. I used a down blanket that was really light weight.
Do you have a link of the name of the blanket? Thanks.
 
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J Willhaus

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Some might be, and some won't. Honestly, this year in Burgos was the first time in my pilgrim life, going back 28 years, that I have seen anyone sleeping in just a liner.

At least a light sleeping bag is an essential for most people, although if you are one of the unusual exceptions, good for you.

Blankets are fewer and farther between than they were pre-covid, and despite the current heat generally in Spain, it is actually a cooler year, so that at certain altitudes and in certain weather, just a liner simply would not do.
Agree that each person may need to decide for themselves. Silk keeps me warm enough in the Spanish summer. I have also used an Army poncho liner fashioned into a bag in summer which is made of a silky synthetic material.
 

peregrin peregrina

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april 2022
Some might be, and some won't. Honestly, this year in Burgos was the first time in my pilgrim life, going back 28 years, that I have seen anyone sleeping in just a liner.

At least a light sleeping bag is an essential for most people, although if you are one of the unusual exceptions, good for you.

Blankets are fewer and farther between than they were pre-covid, and despite the current heat generally in Spain, it is actually a cooler year, so that at certain altitudes and in certain weather, just a liner simply would not do.
lol i wonder if it was me! i was the only one i knew with just a liner :)))
 

peregrin peregrina

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I'm walking on CF in October - silk sleep liner only, or include lightweight blanket, too? (I don't like sleeping bags.)

That specific one you indicate seems to be out of stock but there is a "used - like new" one (which I'll pass on). However, @Marbe2 recommends: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078HQ12HV/?tag=casaivar02-20. I think that looks about the same... "mulberry silk," etc.

Also: I was told I should also bring a blanket (or sleeping bag) for October... I'm one of the dislike mummy-enclosed type of sleepers (which is why I like the recommended extra-large liner), and so would opt for a blanket or at a sleeping bag that I would unzip into a square. What are some lightweight blanket ideas? (I'm a bit of a warm sleeper.) I've certainly looked at the "best of"s and comparisons, etc., but wanted to hear from you all. FWIW: I will be staying in private rooms, whether in albergues or hostals, CRs, etc.

Thanks.
if you are staying in private rooms you only need the liner as they will provide sheets, blankets and towels.
 
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Embee12

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if you are staying in private rooms you only need the liner as they will provide sheets, blankets and towels.
That's good to know. No possibility of bedbugs in private accommodations' blankets? Also, I will sometimes stay in private rooms at albergues - would they be providing blankets and would they be prone to bedbugs?
 

Tincatinker

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That's good to know. No possibility of bedbugs in private accommodations' blankets? Also, I will sometimes stay in private rooms at albergues - would they be providing blankets and would they be prone to bedbugs?
Oh pilgrim. Please use the search facility here on the forum to learn about bedbugs. The public or private nature of your accommodation, communal sleeping or all on your ownsome lonesome will make no difference to our ancient companions. Blankets, sheets, silk pajamas or two shots of Orujo before bedtime: no difference.
 

peregrin peregrina

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That's good to know. No possibility of bedbugs in private accommodations' blankets? Also, I will sometimes stay in private rooms at albergues - would they be providing blankets and would they be prone to bedbugs?
see what sort of setup it is when you book the room. i found that usually the private rooms at albergues still provided sheets/blankets/towels but couldn’t say that holds true across the boards as i only stayed in a few private rooms. i’d say 50 percent of the albergues provided blankets. never heard or saw anything about a bedbug the whole way.
 
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I have been looking at a merino wool liner from Decathlon as an alternative to a sleeping bag. Just for late spring or early autumn months.
Weighs 400g.
Has anyone tried one who could give feedback?
 

mark stevens

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I have been looking at a merino wool liner from Decathlon as an alternative to a sleeping bag. Just for late spring or early autumn months.
Weighs 400g.
Has anyone tried one who could give feedback?
I haven't but have a decathlon near me, so will check it out. cheers
 

Embee12

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Oh pilgrim. Please use the search facility here on the forum to learn about bedbugs. The public or private nature of your accommodation, communal sleeping or all on your ownsome lonesome will make no difference to our ancient companions. Blankets, sheets, silk pajamas or two shots of Orujo before bedtime: no difference.
Will do. Already got my permethrin.
 

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I'm walking on CF in October (most of the month) - silk sleep liner only, or include lightweight blanket, too? (I don't like sleeping bags.)
I got this off Amazon, it is half the price of the equivalent blanket / poncho from Thermarest, and is a better design (though 100 grams more due to a long zipper). 1655543520786.png
It opens up into a blanket, zips up into a sleeping bag (actually a tube, open at each end) AND, can be a poncho for warmth (not rain). Weighs 800 grams, so lighter than most light sleeping bags, and more versatile.
 

Fithayward

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sorry i disagree! i took a only a liner this past april thru june on the CF from roncesvalles on and had many sleepless freezing nights in albergues who did not provide blankets or heat. there are pilgrims who insist on sleeping with windows open no matter how cold it is outside " to get fresh air" particularly in places with those old stone walls it gets pretty darn cold! if i ever go again i'll at least take a lightweight down quilt if not a sleeping bag!
I too get cold and hate to have a free night…I am debating on sleeping bag or liner heading on July 11!
 
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peregrin peregrina

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the sea to summit traveller sleeping bag/blanket looks like a good option if you can afford it! i already bought one for next time. at least it provides more options not possible with the liner and it packs down to the same size. i used a friendly swede polyester liner that was totally great except for the freezing circumstances already described.
 
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That's good to know. No possibility of bedbugs in private accommodations' blankets? Also, I will sometimes stay in private rooms at albergues - would they be providing blankets and would they be prone to bedbugs?
I wouldn't say that. The only time we had bedbugs was in a private hostel. You have to look under the mattress, on the walls -- really scrutinize the sleeping area. I would also advise keeping your stuff in your backpack (unpack as little as possible) and not leaning it against the walls or putting it on the bed.
 
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I brought a new sleeping bag for my June start date. After a week or 10 days I left it, unused even once. I used my liner as a blanket but compared to a real blanket, like the fleece sheet I left at home, it was very uncomfortable.
 

Embee12

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Following up: I got one of the browint silk/cotton bag liners, the bigger size with zippers. Texture is thin and slippery for my taste (I love percale), but will be fine.

As for a lightweight blanket, do you have any thoughts about the following two? I'm walking on the CF from Leon-Santiago in October, and will be staying in private rooms (in hostels or albergues):

At 2.9 pounds, seems quite heavy, but seems warmer than the below? (But no warmth specs on either)

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/126148?csp=s&feat=506831-ecdmotd#review-jump
2 lbs.

Thanks for any thoughts!
 
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Following up: I got one of the browint silk/cotton bag liners, the bigger size with zippers. Texture is thin and slippery for my taste (I love percale), but will be fine.

As for a lightweight blanket, do you have any thoughts about the following two? I'm walking on the CF from Leon-Santiago in October, and will be staying in private rooms (in hostels or albergues):

At 2.9 pounds, seems quite heavy, but seems warmer than the below? (But no warmth specs on either)

https://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/126148?csp=s&feat=506831-ecdmotd#review-jump
2 lbs.

Thanks for any thoughts!
2.9 lbs is heavy!

How about something like this that is just under a pound?

 

J Willhaus

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As mentioned earlier, either a small down blanket for inside the bag or an Army poncho liner. The poncho liner is warm, easily laundered and usually cheaper than down. Is synthetic so stays warmer even if wet.. Buy one already used at Army surplus.
 

Embee12

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As mentioned earlier, either a small down blanket for inside the bag or an Army poncho liner. The poncho liner is warm, easily laundered and usually cheaper than down. Is synthetic so stays warmer even if wet.. Buy one already used at Army surplus.
Thanks again for the helpful info. I did take a look at army poncho liners online, and felt they would be too slippery atop the already slippery silk sleep sack.
 
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So much better! Thanks!
You might even be able to find something lighter.
Thanks again for the helpful info. I did take a look at army poncho liners online, and felt they would be too slippery atop the already slippery silk sleep sack.
Whatever you choose, try putting it inside the silk.
 

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