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Soap for body and clothes???

Camino(s) past & future
Hope to walk the Camino July 2018.
#1
Does anyone have a recommendation on a soap that will work for body/hair/clothes? I'm guessing that any soap will "work" but I'm looking for what works "best" and is easy to carry. What do pilgrims use?
 

Calisteve

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
June 16 CF
July 17 CF with my son (aged 14)
July 18 CP with my wife
#9
Advantages of Wilderness Wash - you don't need an additional container + it's environmentally friendly + the citronella version claims to 'discourage' mozzies etc. Then again, on previous Caminos I just used a bar of soap in a flannel.
 

alaskadiver

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
May 2017-Camino Primitivo
April 2019-Camino de Invierno
#11
We took half a bar of Bronner's for body and clothes washing (when we didn't have a washing machine). I used conditioning shampoo sachets for my hair.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Francés 2014
#12
I liked Dr Bonners Almond soap for body and clothes. I used Lush jojoba bar for hair - the Dr Bonners was too drying - but if you have short hair, it is probably fine.
Agreed. I used lush for my hair and body but take half of a Dr. Bronner’s bar for clothes. Lasted me 38 days with plenty left.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Hope to walk the Camino July 2018.
#13
I'm thinking I'm just going to shave all my hair off and go bald to avoid having to wash or comb my hair. SIMPLIFY! That way I only have to worry about washing body and clothes!
 

Tincatinker

Moderator
Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Lots ;0)
#14
I'm mystified. People carry bathing condiments even when their Camino does not coincide with their birthdays?

Even so how do they ensure sufficient personal space in Albergues and at the bar?

OK, that was a joke ( or was it?). I used to carry the good Dr's impressive fluids until one escaped. Like spilt milk it put itself about... Now I use a fragment of one of those 1 Kg blocks of Sabon or whatever I find abandoned by previous pilgs. It's all just fat and alkaloid and it all does more or less the same job.

At least I don't need to shave my head to achieve baldness ;0)
 
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
#16
Does anyone have a recommendation on a soap that will work for body/hair/clothes? I'm guessing that any soap will "work" but I'm looking for what works "best" and is easy to carry. What do pilgrims use?
I used a bar of African black soap on the Camino and found it excellent for all things. I use it at home with our hard water,and it still sundaes up well.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Frances (2015); Ch. d'Arles: Oloron Ste Marie to Aragones; Frances (2016); V.d.l.P.; Sanabres (2017)
#17
I use my regular small size bar of Ivory soap in my home soap dish: just put the lid on and bring it along for body and clothes. But I also bring a small plastic container of my regular cheap shampoo for my hair. I tried to use the soap, but it took two washes to rinse out the sticky residue. Whatever you plan to bring, if it is not your regular, try it out before you leave.
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#18
Ivory soap and Dr. Bronner's soaps are both actually pretty harsh. I know this because I make soap and I look at the ingredients. I loved my own grapefruit scented soap on the Camino. That being said, even nice homemade soap does not work well for hair (altho some here said they use regular soap for all). The pH of soap is too high for hair and, especially with long hair like mine, really fries it. I made my own bar shampoo and conditioner which worked very well, but they are complicated to make. Many people like Lush bar shampoos, but I thought they disintegrated too quickly. I found this source of bar shampoos and conditioner that I highly recommend: https://www.etsy.com/shop/GetLathered
She makes great, long-lasting hard bar shampoos and conditioners and I think you can pick the scent. She's in the US.. not sure about shipping elsewhere.
 

Sunrayrob

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 18 September - 21 October 2017
Oxfam Trailwalker 2013
#19
Lush was good for body and clothes but we found we should have taken 2 each. I agree that you need a bos for it which Lush also sell.
 
Camino(s) past & future
C/F: 2013, 2014
C/M: 2016
C/P: 2015, 2017
C/I: 2018
Voluntario: 2014 to 2018
#20
My personal favorite for body, hair and clothes (hand wash) is the locally sourced "Heno de Pravia." It is available in 4 and 5 oz bars. The most commonly seen is the 4.0 oz bar. I bring a supply home with me each time to to Spain.

Ironically, the soap is now produced in Mexico. However, it is far more expensive in the US, at least in FL (when I can find it) than it is in Spain.

This soap is an olive oil based soap with a clean non-fruity fragrance. As the label says, it has been a standard across Spain for more than 100 years. (See photo).

You can obtain it in just about every tienda and supermercado in Spain.

Hope this helps.

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Camino(s) past & future
SJPP to Najera Sept. 2017; Najera to Leon (Sept. 2018)
#21
Last year on the CF, I used a Lush shampoo bar and 1/2 a conditioner bar for hair and body. I also took Sea to Summit Pocket Laundry Wash dissolving tissues. As others have mentioned, get the box for the Lush bars. All worked really well.
 
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cindyjo

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances 2012
Camino del Norte /Primitivo (2014)
Chemin la Puy (2016)
Camino Portuguese (2017)
#22
I recently finished the VDLP /Sanabres and for the first time took an easy-grip sudzing bar by Johnson’s Kids. It’s a bar of soap in a soft pouch that doesn’t slip out your hand, lasts a long time, and really makes a rich lather. It can also be used without a wash cloth if you don’t carry one or it’s not handy. In addition, it doesn’t get as messy as some other soaps when you carry it in a small plastic bag or box. It has a light watermelon scent and I used it for both clothes and body. I didn’t try it on my hair. It lasted the whole walk with some to spare.
 
Camino(s) past & future
2015, Camino Frances, May
2017, Camino Frances, May 7
#23
My personal favorite for body, hair and clothes (hand wash) is the locally sourced "Heno de Pravia." It is available in 4 and 5 oz bars. The most commonly seen is the 4.0 oz bar. I bring a supply home with me each time to to Spain.

Ironically, the soap is now produced in Mexico. However, it is far more expensive in the US, at least in FL (when I can find it) than it is in Spain.

This soap is an olive oil based soap with a clean non-fruity fragrance. As the label says, it has been a standard across Spain for more than 100 years. (See photo).

You can obtain it in just about every tienda and supermercado in Spain.

Hope this helps.

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We like this soap also.
 

tominrm

Hiking to Celebrate the End of Working Life.
Camino(s) past & future
CF(2014)
del Norte ( 2015)
Portuguese ( 2016)
Primitivo ( 2017)
VdlP (2018)
#24
I use Ivory soap. I chose it because it is mild and LIGHT. It does not have any colour so does not leave any stain without having to rinse vigorously.
 
Camino(s) past & future
May and October 2015
(2015 October)
June 2018 Portuguese
#26
Does anyone have a recommendation on a soap that will work for body/hair/clothes? I'm guessing that any soap will "work" but I'm looking for what works "best" and is easy to carry. What do pilgrims use?

I use Miracle II, available on Amazon. A green liquid, comes in plain or with moisturizer. I like the moisturizer.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2015); Camino Norte/Primitivo (2016); Camino Frances (2017); Le Puy (June 2018)
#28
On my first Camino I took Dr. Bronner's liquid and put it in a 3 oz size plastic travel bottle. I used it for my hair, showering and laundry. It worked fine. For my next two Caminos I just filled my little travel bottle with super cheap Suave shampoo. Yep, I used it on my hair, showering and laundry. When it ran low, I filled it up with the leftovers laying around from others (like Tinky does) and probably ended up with a few brands in the same bottle. My hair, body, and clothes still got squeaky clean. :)
 

jeffnd

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
March/April 2014
#30
I used a bar of generic glycerin soap I found a store because I lost my bar of soap I brought over. It was fine for me, but not so good for my clothes.

I'm preparing for a wilderness hike this summer, and I've been reading up on camp soaps, Dr. Bronners, etc., and I've made up my mind. I'm going with a small bottle of regular Dawn dish soap. It's cheap, I can get it from the dollar store for... well, a dollar. It's powerful and a great cleaner, oilfield workers use it to get oil out of their clothes and off their skin. It's safe for you and the environment. It's what they use when they clean birds and animals after an oil spill.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2015); Camino Norte/Primitivo (2016); Camino Frances (2017); Le Puy (June 2018)
#31
I used a bar of generic glycerin soap I found a store because I lost my bar of soap I brought over. It was fine for me, but not so good for my clothes.

I'm preparing for a wilderness hike this summer, and I've been reading up on camp soaps, Dr. Bronners, etc., and I've made up my mind. I'm going with a small bottle of regular Dawn dish soap. It's cheap, I can get it from the dollar store for... well, a dollar. It's powerful and a great cleaner, oilfield workers use it to get oil out of their clothes and off their skin. It's safe for you and the environment. It's what they use when they clean birds and animals after an oil spill.
I'd have no problem using Dawn dishwashing liquid. It's in my kitchen right now, but have always wondered if it might be a tad harsh on my hair.
 

domigee

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF(x4), Fisterra/Muxía(x2), VdlP, Jerusalem, VF, Walsingham,
C inglés. 2019? Who knows! ;-)
#34
I have been trying at home a new (to me!) shampoo bar to use on the camino and I like it.
Used to use Lush but I have gone off it.
This one is https://www.friendlysoap.co.uk/product-category/shampoo/
No obvious nasties in it and it feels like I have used conditioner. And it is cheaper :)
PS: I hasten to add I have no affiliation with this Company nor any other interest ;)
 

Anamya

Keeping it simple
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2015)
Camino Portugues (2017)
Lebaniego (Planning)
#35
I usually take any hotel mini-shampoo/body wash I have at home from previous trips. If needed, I get new ones along the way.
(My hair is short and thin, so one month of weird hair doesnt bother me :) )
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#36
I have been trying at home a new (to me!) shampoo bar to use on the camino and I like it.
Used to use Lush but I have gone off it.
This one is https://www.friendlysoap.co.uk/product-category/shampoo/
No obvious nasties in it and it feels like I have used conditioner. And it is cheaper :)
PS: I hasten to add I have no affiliation with this Company nor any other interest ;)
The ingredients list from that company does not mention lye, which had to have been used to create a bar with those other ingredients. Lye is not bad.. almost all soaps are made with it. It means the company is dishonest, though, in my opinion. It also means that it is technically a soap, not a shampoo, which means the pH will be very alkaline, which can be fine for skin but can be damaging to hair. All that being said (as a soap and shampoo making nerd), if it works for you, you can ignore me. :)
 
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JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#37
I used a bar of generic glycerin soap I found a store because I lost my bar of soap I brought over. It was fine for me, but not so good for my clothes.

I'm preparing for a wilderness hike this summer, and I've been reading up on camp soaps, Dr. Bronners, etc., and I've made up my mind. I'm going with a small bottle of regular Dawn dish soap. It's cheap, I can get it from the dollar store for... well, a dollar. It's powerful and a great cleaner, oilfield workers use it to get oil out of their clothes and off their skin. It's safe for you and the environment. It's what they use when they clean birds and animals after an oil spill.
Cleaning and conditioning/moisturizing are opposite properties in soap and sometimes it's hard to find a balance that works for your skin. Dawn is very cleansing, but you may find it very drying on your skin. Let us know.
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#38

domigee

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF(x4), Fisterra/Muxía(x2), VdlP, Jerusalem, VF, Walsingham,
C inglés. 2019? Who knows! ;-)
#39
The ingredients list from that company does not mention lye, which had to have been used to create a bar with those other ingredients. Lye is not bad.. almost all soaps are made with it. It means the company is dishonest, though, in my opinion. It also means that it is technically a soap, not a shampoo, which means the pH will be much higher and can cause hair damage. All that being said (as a soap and shampoo making nerd), if it works for you, you can ignore me. :)
Yikes, no, I am not ignoring you! Back to the drawing board..
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#40
Yikes, no, I am not ignoring you! Back to the drawing board..
If you like that soap, though, take it for body and clothes and get a real shampoo bar for hair. I like this one (I have no connection with this company, other than I have used and highly recommend her shampoo and conditioner bars) https://www.etsy.com/shop/GetLathered
 

jeffnd

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
March/April 2014
#42
Cleaning and conditioning/moisturizing are opposite properties in soap and sometimes it's hard to find a balance that works for your skin. Dawn is very cleansing, but you may find it very drying on your skin. Let us know.
Well, my in-the-field test of Dawn went awry, but I do have experience using it as an everyday soap. (I've worked plenty of jobs where I get dirty and greasy every day.) As far as dry skin goes, in the summer time, it was never really a problem. Since I was showering at night and then just relaxing and sleeping, I never noticed any dryness. I also live in a humid area so that helps too. Plus, the next day, once you're out in the hot sun and sweating, you certainly don't notice dry skin! Winter is a bit of a different story, because winters are very dry here. I get dry skin no matter what I use for soap, my hands especially.
 
Camino(s) past & future
There are many different Pilgrim Routes and Caminos in life.
#43
@Beeman, I never heard of African black soap. Can you please tell me about it? I would like to learn more. ☺
 

Raggy

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Mozarabe Almeria (2017)
Cherhill to Canterbury - Pilgrims' Way (2018)
Via Francigena (2019)
#44
I'm thinking I'm just going to shave all my hair off and go bald to avoid having to wash or comb my hair. SIMPLIFY! That way I only have to worry about washing body and clothes!
With a completely shaved head, I spent more on sunscreen than I saved on shampoo. My low-maintenance preference is to have short hair rather than a shaved head. Of course, that's not an option for everyone.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
#45
@Beeman, I never heard of African black soap. Can you please tell me about it? I would like to learn more. ☺
FamPed. I walked from Oviedo to Muxia last september,and used a small bar of african black soap,for body wash,shampoo,and washing my clothes. Q 4 oz. bar lasted me all 18 days with some left over. I use it at home,and on the trail when hiking. I find it in my local health food store, but located it on Amazon; although they advertised mostly 1 lb. blocks which would have to be quartered. It is probably sold in Spain,as africa is right next door. Try it out at home and see if you like it. I mentioned it to some of my friends,and was surprized to hear that they all used it. If you have any more questions,feel free to ask. And by the way Buen Camino!
 
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
#46
FamPed. I walked from Oviedo to Muxia last september,and used a small bar of african black soap,for body wash,shampoo,and washing my clothes. Q 4 oz. bar lasted me all 18 days with some left over. I use it at home,and on the trail when hiking. I find it in my local health food store, but located it on Amazon; although they advertised mostly 1 lb. blocks which would have to be quartered. It is probably sold in Spain,as africa is right next door. Try it out at home and see if you like it. I mentioned it to some of my friends,and was surprized to hear that they all used it. If you have any more questions,feel free to ask. And by the way Buen Camino!
I found the box the soap comes in and the website is: OUT OF AFRICASHEA.COM. This explains the humanitarian work they do. I hope that this helps you.
 

Enzed

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Porto to Santiago (2020)
#49
Ivory soap and Dr. Bronner's soaps are both actually pretty harsh. I know this because I make soap and I look at the ingredients. I loved my own grapefruit scented soap on the Camino. That being said, even nice homemade soap does not work well for hair (altho some here said they use regular soap for all). The pH of soap is too high for hair and, especially with long hair like mine, really fries it. I made my own bar shampoo and conditioner which worked very well, but they are complicated to make. Many people like Lush bar shampoos, but I thought they disintegrated too quickly. I found this source of bar shampoos and conditioner that I highly recommend: https://www.etsy.com/shop/GetLathered
She makes great, long-lasting hard bar shampoos and conditioners and I think you can pick the scent. She's in the US.. not sure about shipping elsewhere.
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JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#50

http://outofafricashea.com/products/african-black-4oz/
Aha, it is a shea butter soap, sounds interesting.I love different soaps, so maybe I´ll try one out or bye one to my collection. :) I have to ask our soapmaking expert @JillGat , what do you think about this soap?

Edit: Trying to fix the broken link to @JillGat .
That soap would be great for body and clothes. For hair, no. Natural soap - like all soap - is made with oils saponified with lye. The pH is too high, no matter what you do. It will fry your hair.

Carrying liquid shampoo on the Camino is a drag and I couldn't even find small bottles of hair conditioner in Spain. I have long hair. Being a clinical researcher, I played around with formulas and finally came up with formulas for bar shampoo and conditioner that I find not only practical for travel, but are better than any liquid versions I have ever used. Small, solid bars of shampoo and conditioner last way longer than larger bottles of the liquid stuff, too.

I make my own, and it is a completely different process than making soap. I am happy to share links to sites that sell solid shampoos and conditioners.
 
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Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
#51
That soap would be great for body and clothes. For hair, no. Natural soap is made with oils saponified with lye. The pH is too high, no matter what you do. It will fry your hair.

Carrying liquid shampoo on the Camino is a drag and I couldn't even find small bottles of hair conditioner in Spain. I have long hair. Being a clinical researcher, I played around with formulas and finally came up with formulas for bar shampoo and conditioner that are not only practical for travel, but are better than any liquid versions I have ever used. Small, solid bars of shampoo and conditioner last way longer than larger bottles of the liquid stuff, too.

PM me if you are headed out on the Camino soon and I will send you some bars at cost (for materials and shipping). I'm not trying to profit here, I'm just excited about this solution to a problem I've been dealing with, too.
I have used it for years and it works just fine!
 

JabbaPapa

"True Pilgrim"
Camino(s) past & future
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#52
The "best" IMO would be a block of lavender-scented Savon de Marseilles.

https://www.maison-du-savon-de-mars...es-essentielles-de-lavande-3700601504026.html

This can be bought in many ordinary supermarkets in France, though the "Casino" ones seem to do a better job than others of having it in stock.

The simple olive oil version is better just for clothes, and is also perfectly fine for your hair and your body, but the lavender is of course a lot more pleasant for the two latter.
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#53
The "best" IMO would be a block of lavender-scented Savon de Marseilles.

https://www.maison-du-savon-de-mars...es-essentielles-de-lavande-3700601504026.html

This can be bought in many ordinary supermarkets in France, though the "Casino" ones seem to do a better job than others of having it in stock.

The simple olive oil version is better just for clothes, and is also perfectly fine for your hair and your body, but the lavender is of course a lot more pleasant for the two latter.
This is a soap that - like all soap - is saponified with lye and is bad for your hair. There are no soaps with a pH low enough for hair. Many soaps are mild and work great on skin, but you have to use a completely different process to make solid shampoo bars.
 
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nidarosa

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Yes please!
#59
This is a soap that - like all soap - is saponified with lye and is bad for your hair. There are no soaps with a pH low enough for hair. Many soaps are mild and work great on skin, but you have to use a completely different process to make solid shampoo bars.
@JillGat This is very interesting, I didn't know that! Just checked the Liggett's shampoo website and they saponify their shampoo bars with lye - does that explain why I thought it was awful? (Apologies to everyone who loves them, I know different stuff works for different people but this never worked for me.) The links you and others have posted are for US sellers, but I have now sent messages to a few shampoo bar makers and sellers asking outright if they use lye in the process, since you spotted that they don't always list it. Hopefully I'll find one that doesn't. I dislike having to use normal shampoo every day when I go for a long walk so have been looking for a good alternative. Thanks for the info.
 

DonCamino

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
2013 CF
2014 CN
2015 + 2016 VdlP
2017 CF + CN
2018 CP from Lisbon
#61
Try seba med Seifenfreies Waschstück, thats a kind of soap „without soap“ for hair, body and washing your clothes
 
Camino(s) past & future
(2015) Camino Frances/Muxia/Fisterre (2017) Caminho Portuguese/Fisterre
(2019) Camino del Norte
#62
On my first Camino I took Dr. Bronner's liquid and put it in a 3 oz size plastic travel bottle. I used it for my hair, showering and laundry. It worked fine. For my next two Caminos I just filled my little travel bottle with super cheap Suave shampoo. Yep, I used it on my hair, showering and laundry. When it ran low, I filled it up with the leftovers laying around from others (like Tinky does) and probably ended up with a few brands in the same bottle. My hair, body, and clothes still got squeaky clean. :)
Me, too, regarding shampoo. Brought a three ounce container, filled up when I could, bought a big bottle to fill up with and leave at an albergue when I had to. Cleans everything!!!
 

DonCamino

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
2013 CF
2014 CN
2015 + 2016 VdlP
2017 CF + CN
2018 CP from Lisbon
#63
Yes, i agree. But not good for my hair. They get Strawy and scaly. So i need Shampoo or my new seba med „soap free“ „Soap“ (german product). In the moment I test it for the next year to get rid of the weight of water in the fluids ;-).
 
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo,2017,Argonne and salvador,sept.2019
#65
My personal favorite for body, hair and clothes (hand wash) is the locally sourced "Heno de Pravia." It is available in 4 and 5 oz bars. The most commonly seen is the 4.0 oz bar. I bring a supply home with me each time to to Spain.

Ironically, the soap is now produced in Mexico. However, it is far more expensive in the US, at least in FL (when I can find it) than it is in Spain.

This soap is an olive oil based soap with a clean non-fruity fragrance. As the label says, it has been a standard across Spain for more than 100 years. (See photo).

You can obtain it in just about every tienda and supermercado in Spain.

Hope this helps.

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I bought some of this and found it passable,but not as good as african black soap.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances April (2018)
Camino Del Norte April (2019) possible Primitivo
#66
My camino I used Dr Bonners for washing and bathing but I carried shampoo and conditioner as I have very long hair which tangles easily which requires a moisturizing conditioner and a sulfate free shampoo.

On the next camino 2019 Del Norte I will replace it with Travel on laundry sheets literally weighs nothing (less than a pack of gum) and bar soap for my hair . This will cut weight and provide a good option if I need conditioner I will buy along the way. Just another option for those looking. Ethique is a New Zealand product I found on Amazon. Soaps simular to Lush made with natural products and lasts longer than liquid.
 

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C/F: 2013, 2014
C/M: 2016
C/P: 2015, 2017
C/I: 2018
Voluntario: 2014 to 2018
#68
I bought some of this and found it passable,but not as good as african black soap.
You might be correct. But, Heno de Pravia is available just about everywhere in Spain. So, resupply is easy and cheap.

This said, each person is free to use what works best for them...;)
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#69
@JillGat This is very interesting, I didn't know that! Just checked the Liggett's shampoo website and they saponify their shampoo bars with lye - does that explain why I thought it was awful? (Apologies to everyone who loves them, I know different stuff works for different people but this never worked for me.) The links you and others have posted are for US sellers, but I have now sent messages to a few shampoo bar makers and sellers asking outright if they use lye in the process, since you spotted that they don't always list it. Hopefully I'll find one that doesn't. I dislike having to use normal shampoo every day when I go for a long walk so have been looking for a good alternative. Thanks for the info.
Where do you live? I'll see if I can find a solid shampoo/conditioner maker where you are.
 

JabbaPapa

"True Pilgrim"
Camino(s) past & future
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#70
This is a soap that - like all soap - is saponified with lye and is bad for your hair.
Mine seems to be fine with it, though you could easily be right about those with delicate and/or dry hair.
 

captdave51

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Camino(s) past & future
Sept(2016)
#71
Washing macines for laundry seem to be ever more prevalent in a albergues along the Camino Frances these days. Are pilgrims carrying laundry detergent or is it provided for the price of renting the machine?
 
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SJPDP-Finisterre X 2, El Norte incompleto
#72
Washing macines for laundry seem to be ever more prevalent in a albergues along the Camino Frances these days. Are pilgrims carrying laundry detergent or is it provided for the price of renting the machine?
The laundry detergent was always provided when I used a machine in an albergue. Sometimes it was automatically dispensed.
 

martyseville

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
a/a
#73
Dr Bronner bar soap for everything. Clothes, hair, shaving, body, etc.

Trick to the bar lasting long time is to air out. I air out my bar in a small mesh bag. If you pack it in a plastic bag it will melt.

All soaps are not the same. Some brands are hard to rinse out and leave a "film" on body or clothes.
 
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#74
All soaps are not the same, that's true. And, in my above post, I did not mean to say that lye was a bad thing, as the saponifying ingredient in soap. It works great for skin and - depending on the oils used can lean toward being either more cleansing or more moisturizing. It's just that bar soap necessarily has a very high pH, around 8 or higher, which is damaging to the cuticle of the hair. It is very difficult to repair this damage, no matter how intensive your conditioner is. Most shampoos are pH 6 or below. If soap works for your hair, great, but for most people it does not work well. Also (one of my pet peeves, as I've mentioned before), Dr. Bronner's claims to be a Castile soap, which it absolutely is not. Castile soap by definition contains at least 85 percent olive oil. Bronner's has coconut oil and palm oil and other things. I have other issues with palm oil, but I think I covered that elsewhere.
 
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Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2017)
Camino Portuguese (2018)
#76
Does anyone have a recommendation on a soap that will work for body/hair/clothes? I'm guessing that any soap will "work" but I'm looking for what works "best" and is easy to carry. What do pilgrims use?
I just brought a smallish bottle of my usual shampoo for all my cleaning needs. On the Frances I ran out of soap about 5 days in - travel size. Ended up buying a regular size bottle of shampoo and pouring 1/2 of it out to minimize weight. Only one alburgue I encountered carried 'travel' size sundries. Also just bring a regular size deodorant - travel size will only get you to Leon.
 
Camino(s) past & future
06/07 & 12 Camino Francés, 08-10 Via de la Plata, 13/14 & 17 Camino Portugués, 18 Camino Primitivo
#78
I took Dr. Bronners liquid Soap (eucalyptus) last time. It was very good for shower and washing clothes, refreshing and adding a fresh smell. The small 60 ml-bottle easily serves for three weeks. So I will surely take that on my next camino again.
But I would not use this on my hair, as I have very long and dry hair. I took a small bottle (30 ml) of gentle shampoo for that purpose, washing my hair only every three or four days.
A French friend uses "Savon de Marseille" for everything.
 
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Via de La Plata (spring, 2019)
#79
Concur on the Lush soap. Buy the round tins they provide in their shops. Also they make a great toothpaste alternative, which which is in a chewable tablet form.
I use a different little container for my bar shampoo and conditioner that, unlike the Lush tins (which are very pretty), have ventilation holes so the soap doesn't get stuck or dissolve in the box.
 

Jodean

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
22 Sept. to 21 Oct. 2015, Pamplona to Santiago
6-23.04 Porto to Santiago 2018
17.09-30.09 CF 2018
#82
Twice, have taken a small bottle of dishwashing liquid with me. It isn't harsh at all. Used to use it for my kids bubblebaths. It is formulated to be really kind to your skin. Found it great for washing clothing too as you don't need very much and it rinses out so easily. Give it a try at home in the shower and see if you like it.
 

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