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vanderschoor

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Camino(s) past & future
2019
Where do you live? I'll see if I can find a solid shampoo/conditioner maker where you are.
Hi Jill, Ive been following this thread and am very keen to hear of your advice on purchasing a shampoo/ conditioner bar. I tried lush and it fried my hair. I have long curly hair. I live in Australia and wondering if you could suggest a site where I don't have to pay extravagant postal fees! Thanks
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Camino Portugues, June 2019
I'll look into Australian suppliers. Do you have an Australian Etsy? You know, this would probably be a money maker for some shop in Pamplona.
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Camino Portugues, June 2019
This is what I've found so far in your part of the world:
Ethique: nourishedlife.com.au
Creative Aromas, New Zealand: creativearomasnz.co.nz
Stone Rose Soaps
 

Juspassinthrough

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances, May-June (2017)
Ingles, June (2019
Leon-Sarria, June (2019)
Le Puy-Santiago (2023)
For me, good old unscented Ivory Soap. Cheap, widely available and gentle on skin and hair. Works well on clothes as well although I rarely needed for that purpose.
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Camino Portugues, June 2019
For me, good old unscented Ivory Soap. Cheap, widely available and gentle on skin and hair. Works well on clothes as well although I rarely needed for that purpose.
Actually, Ivory is a very harsh detergent soap. Even for those who find it works for their skin, the PH is way off and it will fry hair.
 

Juspassinthrough

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances, May-June (2017)
Ingles, June (2019
Leon-Sarria, June (2019)
Le Puy-Santiago (2023)
I’m my case, I’ve not had a problem for years but I completely understand that we’re all different. I agree that hair, especially if it’s longer is a very different story.
 

K Turner

One step at a time
Camino(s) past & future
14 August 2019 (SJPdP 16 August)
We use a JR Liggetts shampoo bar (jojoba and peppermint). I carry it in a cotton pouch I crocheted...basically a washcloth closed on three sides and a carry/hang loop.
 
Camino(s) past & future
Nearly every year since 2006, often walking more than one route.
I've always used Liggetts for body and hair and a cold water wash bar that I buy in France or Spain, depending on where I start, for clothes. If you are going to do your laundry in machines, detergent is supplied, but beware . . . it is HIGHLY scented almost always!
 

vanderschoor

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
2019
This is what I've found so far in your part of the world:
Ethique: nourishedlife.com.au
Creative Aromas, New Zealand: creativearomasnz.co.nz
Stone Rose Soaps
Thanks Jill for response!! I checked out the websites you suggested unfortunately the NZ brands don't ship to Australia, seriously?! :( and the Ethique: nourishedlife.com.au is quite expensive but we do have Etsy Aus, and even though I'm not familiar with the site I will have a look..what exactly determines I have the right product. Thanks for your help :)
 

JillGat

la tierra encantada
Camino(s) past & future
C. Frances
SJPP - Finisterre - Muxia, May 2016
C. Frances, Sept 2017
Camino Portugues, June 2019
Thanks Jill for response!! I checked out the websites you suggested unfortunately the NZ brands don't ship to Australia, seriously?! :( and the Ethique: nourishedlife.com.au is quite expensive but we do have Etsy Aus, and even though I'm not familiar with the site I will have a look..what exactly determines I have the right product. Thanks for your help :)
Real soap, that is used for the body, no matter how gentle the ingredients, is far too alkaline for hair. Some people do a vinegar wash after shampooing with soap, to counter-act that, but - while on the Camino - that kind of negates the advantage of carrying just a hard bar for the hair. I've written a few long pieces here on the forum about soap vs shampoo, which you can find with a search.

What you want is called a syndet shampoo bar. I know that sounds artificial and chemically, but the ingredients are usually very gentle and are mostly plant-based. But it is a different process and does not use lye, which soap does (to be called "soap", it must involve saponifying fats with lye).

Yes, they often seem expensive, but the fact is that they will last far longer than bottled shampoo and are better for your hair. Lush is the most well-known commercial brand of bar shampoo, but their formulation includes some questionable ingredients and they tend to disintegrate faster than others (I've written about this elsewhere, too).

Especially if you have long hair that you want to preserve (and/or at least be able to get a comb through!), you should stay away from Dr. Bronners and other soaps or products that are made for use on the body.
 

trecile

Camino Addict
Camino(s) past & future
SJPDP-Finisterre X 2 - 2016 & 2017, El Norte - Irun to Vilalba 2018
Thanks Jill for response!! I checked out the websites you suggested unfortunately the NZ brands don't ship to Australia, seriously?! :( and the Ethique: nourishedlife.com.au is quite expensive but we do have Etsy Aus, and even though I'm not familiar with the site I will have a look..what exactly determines I have the right product. Thanks for your help :)
I used the filters on ETSY to find shops in Australia, and used "syndet shampoo bar" to search. I came up with these shops and more.




 

vanderschoor

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
2019
I used the filters on ETSY to find shops in Australia, and used "syndet shampoo bar" to search. I came up with these shops and more.




Thanks so much for your help!! I have ordered a shampoo bar and a CURL creme (bonus) and I'm looking forward to giving it a go. I already expereincing and feeling the community spirit and I haven't even started walking :)
 

Via2010

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
06/07 & 12 Camino Francés, 08-10 Via de la Plata, 13/14 & 17 Camino Portugués, 18 Camino Primitivo
I take Dr. Bronners Soap for washing my clothes and shower, but I would never use that on my (really long) hair. Because of the length I wash my hair only every 3 to 5 days. So I filled my regular shampoo which I use at home in a small (30 ml-50 ml, depending on the length of the journey) bottle. Saving some weight is not worth messing around with your hair and risking to damage it.
 

PokeyRN49

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
(2022)
I'd have no problem using Dawn dishwashing liquid. It's in my kitchen right now, but have always wondered if it might be a tad harsh on my hair.
It’s made to get the grease out. However you will find that it also strips all the oils out of your hair and skin. “Squeaky clean” equates to removal of all natural oils and is therefore extremely drying.
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking.
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
It’s made to get the grease out. However you will find that it also strips all the oils out of your hair and skin. “Squeaky clean” equates to removal of all natural oils and is therefore extremely drying.
I understand and agree with you, but I think differently when I'm on the camino. My opinion is that 4-6 weeks of using a harsher soap would not be permanently harmful to me. Once back home I think my natural oils would go back to normal.
 

Delphinoula

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino PdC 2018 Finisterre Muxía 2018
C Franconia 2019
Camino desde Algeciras Sevillia (2019)
I tried on my last leave out: Aleppo soap with 20 % Laurel oil. First my hair felt really strange a bit stringy but with a vinegar solution as conditioner after a week use it’s looked and felt normal. This soap foams pretty good and washes out well too. I don’t know what ingredients your soap has.
But is worked for me. The only thing it’s natural soap that’s flakes so you kind of have to mold the soap into shape. I try to use less plastic and this seems to be a great way. It can be used for shaving as well. If you can find ivy on the way 5 to 10 leaves wash your load of clothes.
 

2020Pilgrim-hopeful

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Newcomer! (Frances hopefully in 2020)
Yes. I have a Dr. Bronner bar of soap that’s great for shower, shampoo, and wash. It should last me from SJPP to Finesterre. Buen Camino.
I've used this myself in the past on other (non-camino) adventures as have found it functional. Some friends have told me that they don't like it for their hair, but I have never taken issue with it.
 

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