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andywild

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF april 18.. CP sep 18.. CF april 2020
Hi all, I'm considering doing the VDLP in April and will be away from home for a few weeks. My question is this,

Do I give my butler and both maids the 6 weeks off or should I have them pop in occasionally to dust the chandeliers etc..

I don't really want to come back to a dusty mansion like "common" people do.

Thank you
Andy
xxx
 

David

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Moissac to Santiago Spring 2005 was the first foray.
It is a tricky question. Your valet will travel with you of course - someone has to do the laundry, keep you well shaven, lie in your bed for an hour before you go to bed to feed the bedbugs, and carry your rucksack .... but your butler may feel that he also deserves a break and as it is worth keeping him onside, a good butler being such a rare thing, even if they all do quietly steal from us, I would give him a holiday.
This would leave two maids and who knows what shennanigans they would encourage each other to get up to so I would just sack them - they are easily replacable after all. If you don't give them references they will still be unemployed when you return and they will be so grateful to get their jobs back - and if they start the day before you return the house will be prepared and fresh for you.

To keep the estate safe I would hire a security guard to live in, not necessary for him/her to bring their own dog as I assume that he/she will be looking after your own hounds.

There - problem solved, well, apart from the horses but I assume that they will go into livery?
 
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andywild

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF april 18.. CP sep 18.. CF april 2020
I'm glad you mentioned the valet going to bed earlier to feed the bedbugs.. this is one of my top tips for a successful Camino (or JesusJolly as me and the chaps at the club like to call it). I find that dosing said valet's food with A strong pesticide works best as it then transfers straight from his blood stream. It does seem to make him slightly less talkative too which is always a bonus.. no one likes a pilgrimage with someone constantly complaining about how heavy the 42 piece Victorian tea-set is...
 

NorthernLight

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy to Santiago via the Frances 2012-2013. EPW2015
Aragonese & Frances 2016
Burgos to Muxia 2017
Surely you'll need a couple of the horses and the assistant butler to accompany you! Who else will ride ahead, secure your rooms at the inn and make them ready for you? Or set up camp for your tea?
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
I notice my question has "been moved to a different forum"... Would it be asking too much just to have my own section?
Regards
Andy Wild III CBE, PhD, BBC, LSD.
Don't forget the LDS and the AADD!
 

Turga

Camino tortuga
Camino(s) past & future
CF (Aug/Sep 2017)
CF (Aug/Sep 2018)
Don’t worry, bring as much as you need, you are just honoring traditions. On the British Kabul expedition in 1839, one brigadier was said to have had no fewer than sixty camels to transport his personal camp equipment and the officers of one regiment had two camels assigned just to carry their supply of cigars. So why worry about a detail like a 42 piece Victorian tea-set….
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
Yes, Turga, but if that particular brigadier had been going to Santiago instead, would he have qualified for a compostela? Possibly... if he passed out cigars to the pilgrim office staff and volunteers. 😀
 

Bradypus

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Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Too many and too often!
Don’t worry, bring as much as you need, you are just honoring traditions. On the British Kabul expedition in 1839, one brigadier was said to have had no fewer than sixty camels to transport his personal camp equipment and the officers of one regiment had two camels assigned just to carry their supply of cigars. So why worry about a detail like a 42 piece Victorian tea-set….
Ever read "The Ascent of Rum Doodle" ? :cool:
 

nycwalking

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Camino(s) past & future
Ourense to Santiago (2019), CF: (2014, 2004, 2002, 2001). On to Fisterra, (2002, 4, 14).
Don’t worry, bring as much as you need, you are just honoring traditions. On the British Kabul expedition in 1839, one brigadier was said to have had no fewer than sixty camels to transport his personal camp equipment and the officers of one regiment had two camels assigned just to carry their supply of cigars. So why worry about a detail like a 42 piece Victorian tea-set….
I wonder if some of those below stairs employees felt this way?
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Bradypus

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Staff member
Camino(s) past & future
Too many and too often!
No, should I?
I read "The Great Game" by Peter Hopkirk.
Everyone should :) Excellent spoof on the mountaineering stories from the first half of the 20th century. Disaster from start to finish told with British stiff upper lip :D

PS: a 5 part BBC radio abridged audio version is available online to give you the flavour of it ;). https://archive.org/details/AscentOfRumDoodle
 
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Introibo

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances ( March 2015 )
Camino Portugues ( September 2015 )
If you decide to get a friend to look over the house every week whilst you're away then
can I suggest getting a different friend to pop in on other days and move a few things
around? Maybe introduce some fresh flowers into the house on week three?

This arrangement works best if friend number one hasn't been told about friend number 2
visiting the house :eek:
 

Bob from L.A. !

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Francis 2012, 2014, 2016. Camino Norte 2018. Many more to come in my future God willing !
Good to see you back Andy and to see nothing has changed in your hysterical life. Thanks for the afternoon laugh !
 

hel&scott

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
2004 St Jean - Santiago, 2008 &18 Seville - Finesterre, 2010 Ferrol - Lisbon, 2012 from Cartehenga.
Actually, there is a long tradition of people traveling with an entourage on the camino,
Prince Carlos (before he became Carlos III) traveled with a vast entourage in the 1380s to thank the saint for his release from France. And I bet other catholic nobility didn't walk with back pack. I am sure @Kathar1na will be along presently to enlighten us all.

On a more serious note, if your question is about keeping your humble pile safe while you are away then consider a house sitter. We've always had someone look after the place when away, as much as to feed the dog and cat as to deter burglars and check we havent left the gas on. It's a bit more difficult now we've moved to the country, not everyone wants to take on our surfs role of shifting stock, feeding pigs, exercising the dog, mowing 16 hectare and pruning countless trees while I am away. Oh it's a hard life being the landed gentry.

Enjoy the VDLP, it's long and hard but an absolute joy.
 

Hurry Krishna

Indian on the Way
Camino(s) past & future
2009 (from Sarria), 2014 from St Jean Pied de Port, 2016 from Porto, 2018 from Le Puy to Santiago.
Of course this question has been asked MANY times before
Hi all, I'm considering doing the VDLP in April and will be away from home for a few weeks. My question is this,

Do I give my butler and both maids the 6 weeks off or should I have them pop in occasionally to dust the chandeliers etc..

I don't really want to come back to a dusty mansion like "common" people do.

Thank you
Andy
xxx
Of course this question has been asked many times before. You really need to ask your Executive Assistant to do some research!!! BTW, I always take my butler with me, you need someone hold the door of the Albergue when you come in exhausted at the end of he day. You will need your scullery maid too - there is washing to be done every day. Other than that, perhaps a footman 🤔...
 

Glenshiro

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
Le Puy - León, Camino Frances (2012 - 2019)
Personally, I travel light, with just a ghillie or two to assist with the luggage and to shoot peasants pheasants. I give my gentleman's gentleman the time off (without pay, of course, I'm not made of money) so that he can visit the orphanage where I found him and employed him as Boots. And do, please, remember that a gentleman never eats soup at luncheon. Toodle-pip!
 

MikeyC

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF - September 2016
CF - April May 2017
Shikoku - October 2017
Kumano Kodo - October 2017
CF - 2019
Andy, my dear chap, you've got the wrong end of the stick. Us proper toffs send one of our minions to do this walking business and have them use one's name on that compostela thingy.
Leaves more time for a spot of shooting and fishing dontcha know.
 

Hurry Krishna

Indian on the Way
Camino(s) past & future
2009 (from Sarria), 2014 from St Jean Pied de Port, 2016 from Porto, 2018 from Le Puy to Santiago.
Andy, my dear chap, you've got the wrong end of the stick. Us proper toffs send one of our minions to do this walking business and have them use one's name on that compostela thingy.
Leaves more time for a spot of shooting and fishing dontcha know.
Of course!!! There is a long tradition of the rich paying the poor to carry their sins! Easiest way to buy a stairway to heaven 😀
 

Chica36

New Member
Camino(s) past & future
Primitivo
Hi all, I'm considering doing the VDLP in April and will be away from home for a few weeks. My question is this,

Do I give my butler and both maids the 6 weeks off or should I have them pop in occasionally to dust the chandeliers etc..

I don't really want to come back to a dusty mansion like "common" people do.

Thank you
Andy
xxx
I can always house sit (as long as your mansion is in a nice place).
 
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Ingles 2016 Camino Portuguese 2017 Considering Invierno late (2020) In lieu of VdlP (2020)
It is a tricky question. Your valet will travel with you of course - someone has to do the laundry, keep you well shaven, lie in your bed for an hour before you go to bed to feed the bedbugs, and carry your rucksack .... but your butler may feel that he also deserves a break and as it is worth keeping him onside, a good butler being such a rare thing, even if they all do quietly steal from us, I would give him a holiday.
This would leave two maids and who knows what shennanigans they would encourage each other to get up to so I would just sack them - they are easily replacable after all. If you don't give them references they will still be unemployed when you return and they will be so grateful to get their jobs back - and if they start the day before you return the house will be prepared and fresh for you.

To keep the estate safe I would hire a security guard to live in, not necessary for him/her to bring their own dog as I assume that he/she will be looking after your own hounds.

There - problem solved, well, apart from the horses but I assume that they will go into livery?
I noticed you did not fall into the social faux pas of suggesting the Butler be employed to do the valet's job. After all Jeeves was always described as a personal man servant or valet and never incorrectly a "Butler". The Butler is responsible for the household and staff.
 

Icacos

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Camino Frances (2013)
I noticed you did not fall into the social faux pas of suggesting the Butler be employed to do the valet's job. After all Jeeves was always described as a personal man servant or valet and never incorrectly a "Butler". The Butler is responsible for the household and staff.
Oh, well then, Barrow definitely gets the job. 🙂
 

Davey Boyd

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Again, soon as possible!
Hi all, I'm considering doing the VDLP in April and will be away from home for a few weeks. My question is this,

Do I give my butler and both maids the 6 weeks off or should I have them pop in occasionally to dust the chandeliers etc..

I don't really want to come back to a dusty mansion like "common" people do.

Thank you
Andy
xxx
Sack them all and buy new ones when you return. What is your address and what dates are you going? Cos then your pad will be empty and I can pop round to nick your paintings. After we have free-partied the place that is.

Ta, Davey
 

Camino Chrissy

Take one step forward...then keep on walking..
Camino(s) past & future
Frances 2015;
Norte/Primitivo 2016;
Frances 2017;
Le Puy 2018;
Portuguese/FishermanTr. 2019
Ok, I am a bit lost on the date bit......

BUT does this mean Andy is a secret Royal? Could be! He (or she) is wearing a mask in his pic. Is it Andrew? Could even be Lizzy off on a jolly.... You never know.....
I can verify that Andy is a wild man. I recall his original avatar photo...he definately had a long red beard. If he was a lady I think he would be in the circus, not walking Caminos! 😂
 

Davey Boyd

Veteran Member
Camino(s) past & future
Again, soon as possible!
I can verify that Andy is a wild man. I recall his original avatar photo...he definately had a long red beard. If he was a lady I think he would be in the circus, not walking Caminos! 😂
Could be the queen with a sticky-on beard.
If you was the queen, you would need a disguise to walk the camino.
Has he ever mentioned Corgis by any chance?
 

andywild

Active Member
Camino(s) past & future
CF april 18.. CP sep 18.. CF april 2020
Sack them all and buy new ones when you return. What is your address and what dates are you going? Cos then your pad will be empty and I can pop round to nick your paintings. After we have free-partied the place that is.

Ta, Davey
I've decided to send them for retraining, two of them wouldn't know an ivory shoe-horn if you hit them with one (which I often do). And I've decided that it's best all round if the one that's developed a limp is put out of his misery. You're more than welcome to attempt to pilfer the objets d'art but you'll have to get past the corgis...ehemm, I mean attack dogs first..
 

Mar Oregon

Member
Camino(s) past & future
Hoping to walk in 2020
I've decided to send them for retraining, two of them wouldn't know an ivory shoe-horn if you hit them with one (which I often do). And I've decided that it's best all round if the one that's developed a limp is put out of his misery. You're more than welcome to attempt to pilfer the objets d'art but you'll have to get past the corgis...ehemm, I mean attack dogs first..
Kind Ladies and gentlemen,
I have just finished reading the entirety of this thread and no where could I find mention of the obvious need to bring one’s own personal botafumeira, solid silver of course. Perhaps you are unaware that the original one in the cathedral in Santiago is only set in motion on certain days of the month, unless you and several onlookers want to cough up a wad of cash to entice the church leaders to light it up when you arrive. I believe if you bring your own with you, your chances of seeing the thurible swing are greatly improved, especially if you also bring along 6-8 sturdy monks (or nuns) who can both attach it and then coordinate the necessary rope pulling. Of course you could press into service the various butlers, maids, cooks and footmen you already have with you, but certainly the one you have been using as bedbug bait will be half dead by then and of very little use. I suppose you could try harnessing the corgis but likely they will be more interested in herding other pilgrims, not to mention dog tired. So there you have. The problem outlined and it’s solution contained here in one paragraph. I only hope you read this far into the thread before the expedition begins. It would be a shame if you had to wait till Sunday to see the spectacle like the common riffraff must do.
 
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