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Surprising background of the Alto del Perdon

alexwalker

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On one of the first days of our Camino Frances walk, we come to the top of Alto del Perdon, with its windmills, and not least, metal sculptures of pilgrims. But what do these sculptures actually mean?

Here's an explanation:


And another (dark) feature also exists there, not known to many firsttimers (or "repeat offenders"):


Alto del Perdon is well worth a break and reflection, right at the start of your Camino. Hopefully, there are more reflective moments awaiting for you on your walk: Pay attention: The Camino is a personal learning curve, and the old saying "The Camino will give you what you need, not necessarily what you want"" still goes....
 
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One can find a number of memorials to civil war victims on different caminos as well as the remnants of glorification of those who fought for Franco (although they are disappearing now - the first photo is in Azofra, the second in Villambistia - just after Tosantos).
 

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alexwalker

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2009-2019: More than I remember...
One can find a number of memorials to civil war victims on different caminos as well as the remnants of glorification of those who fought for Franco (although they are disappearing now - the first photo is in Azofra, the second in Villambistia - just after Tosantos).
Indeed. Also on the top of the hill after Villafranca Montes del Oca on the Camino Frances:


Just horrible.

But for now, it's about Alto del Perdon :)
 
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Roland49

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Did know that. I never read a guidebook before starting my CF in 2019. But I stumbled upon this explanation on a website as I was planning my CF.

Hope that I will make it there again.

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Roland
 

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On one of the first days of our Camino Frances walk, we come to the top of Alto del Perdon, with its windmills, and not least, metal sculptures of pilgrims. But what do these sculptures actually mean?

Here's an explanation:


And another (dark) feature also exists there, not known to many firsttimers (or "repeat offenders"):


Alto del Perdon is well worth a break and reflection, right at the start of your Camino. Hopefully, there are more reflective moments awaiting for you on your walk: Pay attention: The Camino is a personal learning curve, and the old saying "The Camino will give you what you need, not necessarily what you want"" still goes....
“Not necessarily what you want” , well said. Thanks for the continuing education.
 
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On one of the first days of our Camino Frances walk, we come to the top of Alto del Perdon, with its windmills, and not least, metal sculptures of pilgrims. But what do these sculptures actually mean?

Here's an explanation:


And another (dark) feature also exists there, not known to many firsttimers (or "repeat offenders"):


Alto del Perdon is well worth a break and reflection, right at the start of your Camino. Hopefully, there are more reflective moments awaiting for you on your walk: Pay attention: The Camino is a personal learning curve, and the old saying "The Camino will give you what you need, not necessarily what you want"" still goes....
Thanks so much and the website is one that I wasn't aware of. I think this "new" website (for me at least) will keep me out of trouble for awhile. Thanks
 

lt56ny

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Indeed. Also on the top of the hill after Villafranca Montes del Oca on the Camino Frances:


Just horrible.

But for now, it's about Alto del Perdon :)
People's sympathies in Spain vary greatly about the War. It is a topic that I have great interest in as my Dad was in the Abraham Lincoln Brigade in Spain fighting against Franco. I NEVER speak of it with Spaniards unless (it has only happened once), the person brings it up in conversation and makes it very clear where their sympathy lies.
 

Marbe2

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On one of the first days of our Camino Frances walk, we come to the top of Alto del Perdon, with its windmills, and not least, metal sculptures of pilgrims. But what do these sculptures actually mean?

Here's an explanation:


And another (dark) feature also exists there, not known to many firsttimers (or "repeat offenders"):


Alto del Perdon is well worth a break and reflection, right at the start of your Camino. Hopefully, there are more reflective moments awaiting for you on your walk: Pay attention: The Camino is a personal learning curve, and the old saying "The Camino will give you what you need, not necessarily what you want"" still goes....

Thank you! I found this interesting!
 
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On one of the first days of our Camino Frances walk, we come to the top of Alto del Perdon, with its windmills, and not least, metal sculptures of pilgrims. But what do these sculptures actually mean?

Here's an explanation:


And another (dark) feature also exists there, not known to many firsttimers (or "repeat offenders"):


Alto del Perdon is well worth a break and reflection, right at the start of your Camino. Hopefully, there are more reflective moments awaiting for you on your walk: Pay attention: The Camino is a personal learning curve, and the old saying "The Camino will give you what you need, not necessarily what you want"" still goes....
Alex,
Here is more information
as of October 9, 2021, re the same horrific events/times but in another different location.
 
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Lo, though I want to share my experiences, I appreciate this is not the forum for talking about matters related to the Spanish Civil War. That's not a tease so much as plaintive recollection of my tangency with that period and what happened to me in 1975 in a remote corner of Cataluña. I paused at the monument on that hill Alex Walker mentions outside Villafranca Montes de Oca, sat at one of the picnic tables located there, and reflected at length on the horrors of war. All wars.
 
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I appreciate your sentiment, Alwyn. Thank you for that. I can picture you sitting at that same table. We may yet meet at that bar/tavern/restaurant in Pictin just off to the right and slightly uphill as one gets off the ferry. Or you might come to Anacortes where we also have many ferries and where you would be most welcome. Happy New Year to you.
 

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