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Is it safe to fill bottles with tap water or is it better / safer to buy bottled water along the trail?
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Portugal as well. It seems the default is potable; they only put on a sign if it's non-potable.Tap water in Spain meets EU standards, which are equivalent to those of the US or Canada.
If you are filling your bottle from an outdoor public fountain, you should check for the signs mentioned in previous posts.
I drank the tap water the whole way on the Camino last year with no issues. I occasionally bought bottled water at cafes but only because I wanted to purchase something to thank them for using their facilities. Just be sure when refilling from fountains that the water is potable. Most fountains are clearly labeled as potable or not. Good Luck!Is it safe to fill bottles with tap water or is it better / safer to buy bottled water along the trail?
I have done the same thing except I've found the coca cola (or any soda brand) bottles to be a bit thicker and sturdier, better sealing cap and I purchase two or three of them at the beginning of the Camino and reuse all the way to SDC. They also fit nicely in the side pockets of my backpack.For most of my 10 caminos walking in autumn and winter I bought 2 half/liter bottles of water at the beginning of the camino and filled those same 2 bottles periordically from taps in albergues.
After purchasing a snack along the way in bars I would ask for the bottles to be filled or fill them myself from the taps in the loo.
My general philosophy on tap water is that I don't trust it anywhere in the world. I always filter it. I also abhor bottled water. Not only is it ridiculously expensive, the plastic is an environmental disaster.Is it safe to fill bottles with tap water or is it better / safer to buy bottled water along the trail?
We used the Center Village Fountains, refilled, and never had an issue.Is it safe to fill bottles with tap water or is it better / safer to buy bottled water along the trail?
Is he perhaps endorsing the product?Efren Gonzales in his recent Youtube Camino videos has been using this water bottle with a built in filter in the cap.
I don't recall other than I'd looked it up when he first showed it on one of his walks and he seemed to like how easy it was to use.Is he perhaps endorsing the product?
You might want to rethink the Brita filter, as it doesn't remove pathogens.My general philosophy on tap water is that I don't trust it anywhere in the world. I always filter it. I also abhor bottled water. Not only is it ridiculously expensive, the plastic is an environmental disaster.
So, what to do on the Camino or traveling for that matter? I always bring a Britta Sport (squeezable) water filter bottle. It's very easy to fill my hydration bladder from most any tap. Just fill the bottle, screw on the cap and squeeze. It also makes for a good bed-side water bottle.
Here's an example on AMAZON:
Without a doubt he is. Most of the youtuber's who do it for a living endorse products for sponsorship and pay. Whether they actually use the product besides a demonstration on their video? Who knows?Is he perhaps endorsing the product?
Efren has been using it all the time since he mentioned it and barely demonstrated it. I keep up on his newest videos of the Le Puy route because I follow along to relive my own wonderful memories of that route.Whether they actually use the product besides a demonstration on their video? Who knows?
I completely agree with you.It doesn't bother me in the least if he endorses a product that helps him continue to do what he loves and can make a living at it.
That is so very true, RJM!Nonetheless it's a product not needed to walk the Frances, or any of the other well established Camino routes with modern infrastructure.
Good news! According to the linked article, restaurants and bars are now legally obligated to offer free tap water. Ask for agua del grifo.We just got back from walking (part of) the Camino Frances. We used tap water to fill our water bottles. No problems. It tasted wonderful every where. To me, much better than bottled water. I wish getting tap water in restaurants were the default. So much wasted plastic with all those bottles.
Yes, beer is safer, filtered and cheaper than bottled water but the wine is even less expensive.My donkey was always pretty good at refusing water that she thought was doubtful. So if she thought it was acceptable, I drank it as well. Never had a problem.
Only snag was when she wasn't thirsty. Sometimes I had to drink beer.
You might want to read this rather complete post on water filtration devices from @davebuggI will be walking my first Camino starting mid May. I ma used to drinking filtered water. Had a reverse osmosis system in my house for past 20 years. As a precaution I purchased a Crazy Cap bottle. It has a built=in ultraviolet light to kill bacteria. Hope it works.
Hey Trecile, thanks for the info. It's a very good post and I will take this into consideration. Lots to think about.You might want to read this rather complete post on water filtration devices from @davebugg
I haven't heard that, but it makes a lot of sense. Water is expensive in Iberia; we pay (compared to North America) quite a bit for water for house and garden when we're there.I also do not fill them up from any fountain/spiget that has continuous running water without a handle to turn the water on/off. It may be a rumor, but I've heard the water is not treated. I do however, use it to refresh my face, arms, and soak my bandana around my neck if I get hot.
Beer is better when you are thirsty. I fall over too much if I quench my thirst with wine. I do try to start with water. Out of a tap is fine, just don't present me with sweet sticky drinks. Who invented Casera anyway?Yes, beer is safer, filtered and cheaper than bottled water but the wine is even less expensive.
And how do you know whether you are faced with a 90% case or a 10% case?Please note if you see a sign on a fuente that says “agua sin garantía sanitaria” that it basically doesn't say anything about the quality of the water. In 90% of cases this water is perfectly good for drinking.
And no-one, including Happy Penguin is suggesting that you should, so not sure why you say this in your response to HP's post.I would not drink from a fountain that says No potable
Happy Penguin has a suggestion (in the same post)how do you know whether you are faced with a 90% case or a 10% case?
The best way is to ask the locals if it is ok to drink
@peregrino_tom, in the meantime, this thread has caused me to look up what "agua no potable" and "agua sin garantías sanitarias" really means in Spain. It was a surprise.why you say this in your response
The tap water is fine. From the fountains and everywhere else.
I consumed litres and litres of it on over 180 days on the Camino. I never buy bottled water on the Camino and try to avoid doing so in general (my little way of reducing plastic waste).
Spain is a first world country. The water is fine.
I buy two Smartwater bottles before I leave home with the flip-top caps so I don't have to hold it while drinking. These bottles are smooth and robust for ease of taking out of the backpack sleeve and replacing. They serve me well for the whole four to six weeks I walk.Absolutely agree to reduce plastic waste. I usually buy two plastic bottles of water on my first day (or already at the airport) and these bottles hang with me until the tap comes off or there are holes in them or whatever. Then I replace them. I can go 2-3 weeks with the same bottle of water. I fill them up with tap water from the hostal or albergue, or from fountains along the way.
Now on most plastic bottles it says "Should not be refilled after use" or something. I suppose it is because the plastic can contaminate the water in old bottles = ??? But I never care...
That's what locals told me in Spain on several ocassions. They usually are angry at the authorities who put those "water without sanitary guarantee" signs on water springs, which they have been drinking for ages from. Not to spread conspiration theories here, but ask any Spaniards about those springs "without guarantee" and they will tell you who is behind this new invention: "water mafias" who want to maximize profit from selling bottled water. It's a big business and big money involved.And how do you know that it means that local authorities declined to pay money to check regularly the water to get a certificate stating that water is potable/non potable???
I have seen a couple of documentaries on this subject and I suppose it could be true here. OTOH, possibly the locals are used to drinking/using those springs with totally natural, untreated water. Our digestive systems may be more sensitive...I personally would not take a chance to drink it."water mafias" who want to maximize profit from selling bottled water. It's a big business and big money involved.
I now know more than I knew when I first reacted to your comment ☺️. The way I understand it now, "sin garantías sanitarias" means that the water comes directly from a natural source and that it is without any disinfection treatment. However, it does not mean that the town or village wants to save money on regular checks on water quality. In some cases, at least that's what I've now read, the water company in question carries out inspections on a monthly basis and in the summer even on a weekly basis due to the drop in the water table. In late summer or autumn, the same fountain may even get a sign saying "no potable" and the spouts may even get sealed for a while.That's what locals told me in Spain on several ocassions. They usually are angry at the authorities who put those "water without sanitary guarantee" signs on water springs, which they have been drinking for ages from. Not to spread conspiration theories here, but ask any Spaniards about those springs "without guarantee" and they will tell you who is behind this new invention: "water mafias" who want to maximize profit from selling bottled water. It's a big business and big money involved.
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Cerveza !!!
I'm not a beer drinker, but I always prefer to have my wine🍷at the end of the day on Camino to keep the "spring in my step" until I finish walking. 🙂Cerveza !!!
No the Brita Filter does not remove bacteria or viruses. It's heavy metals and organics that are my concern. Our world is getting more and more polluted and even with regulation, municipal water supplies are highly variable in contaminants.You might want to rethink the Brita filter, as it doesn't remove pathogens.
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Ha! It was on the chemins de Compostelle through France that I discovered Badoit thanks to a fellow pèlerine (hm, is that correctly gendered 😅). Badoit is only lightly carbonated and has become my absolute favourite. I have sometimes experienced severe culture shock when I was in countries where they sell something as bottled water that tastes like tap water or even worse but I will not name names.I am a big fan of carbonated water (I think also known as seltzer water) so I must admit that I quite often buy it in supermarkets when I walk in Spain. I find it ten times more refreshing than still water. I think it is a matter of taste and the culture where you grew up, because majority of people I met on the Camino hate seltzer water
You got me interested in the topic, so I did some internet searching and found several articles discussing the taste and quality of tap water in Spain. It's a complicated issue in that you need to separate taste from quality, and then you need to define what 'quality' actually means.Is it safe to fill bottles with tap water or is it better / safer to buy bottled water along the trail?
You might consider carrying a small water filter, some types weigh less than a pound. They improve the taste of treated water, and they could also be used to purify stream water (verify this for the filter chosen) which means you'd have more options for refilling along the wayIs it safe to fill bottles with tap water or is it better / safer to buy bottled water along the trail?
As pointed out, the following thread has detailed information...You might consider carrying a small water filter, some types weigh less than a pound. They improve the taste of treated water, and they could also be used to purify stream water (verify this for the filter chosen) which means you'd have more options for refilling along the way
You might want to read this rather complete post on water filtration devices from @davebugg
I drank from fountains i plazas, and even fro a few out in the "middle of nowhere" without problem. But on some places, I used a "Grayl" to drink from ditches and ponds without ill effect. Not claiming Grayl is the best—it has competitors but I haven't tried any of them.I never buy bottled water on the Camino, but do avoid filling my Smartwater bottles if there are signs saying not potable. I also do not fill them up from any fountain/spiget that has continuous running water without a handle to turn the water on/off. It may be a rumor, but I've heard the water is not treated. I do however, use it to refresh my face, arms, and soak my bandana around my neck if I get hot.
Actually quite sage. You can generally rely on a tap being available at a cemetery, although I have no idea why. It can be a 'life-saver'. And certainly, the locals don't seem to mind.In France I filled my water bottles at cemeteries
Far more family visiting cemetaries regularly in the smaller towns and villages than we are used to seeing in northern-European/North American, less Catholic countries, I suspect. Bringing flowers regularly is not uncommon. So the municipalities provide water for the flowers, and for cleaning graves and memorials.Actually quite sage. You can generally rely on a tap being available at a cemetery, although I have no idea why.
True - but I think the point of the other poster was that it was "reliable" water. Meaning - potable. Safe. When really - a cemetery could just as easily use non-potable water. They are watering flowers and perhaps lawns (if they have them) and cleaning graves - none of that requires potable water that is safe for drinking.Far more family visiting cemetaries regularly in the smaller towns and villages than we are used to seeing in northern-European/North American, less Catholic countries, I suspect. Bringing flowers regularly is not uncommon. So the municipalities provide water for the flowers, and for cleaning graves and memorials.
True.Absolutely agree to reduce plastic waste. I usually buy two plastic bottles of water on my first day (or already at the airport) and these bottles hang with me until the tap comes off or there are holes in them or whatever. Then I replace them. I can go 2-3 weeks with the same bottle of water. I fill them up with tap water from the hostal or albergue, or from fountains along the way.
Now on most plastic bottles it says "Should not be refilled after use" or something. I suppose it is because the plastic can contaminate the water in old bottles = ??? But I never care...
That's a good point, but I guess if it were not potable it would be labelled accordingly. (I hope!) I've availed myself of cemetery water in Germany and France and have been grateful. If it looks like the tap is connected to the mains I use it; if it were from a spring I would be hesitant. But you can't be sure unless it's labelled either way.True - but I think the point of the other poster was that it was "reliable" water. Meaning - potable. Safe. When really - a cemetery could just as easily use non-potable water. They are watering flowers and perhaps lawns (if they have them) and cleaning graves - none of that requires potable water that is safe for drinking.
It would not occur to me to think that the tap in a cemetery in France or Germany is not connected to the drinking water supply network of the village or town. Of course it would be labelled as non drinkable if this were the case but why should it be? Doesn’t everybody know that you are most likely to get drinking water in a cemetery? The only problem is in winter month when it might be turned off to avoid damage due to frost.That's a good point, but I guess if it were not potable it would be labelled accordingly. (I hope!) I've availed myself of cemetery water in Germany and France and have been grateful. If it looks like the tap is connected to the mains I use it; if it were from a spring I would be hesitant. But you can't be sure unless it's labelled either way.
Remember what Noël Coward said: "I never drink water, fish er . . . make love in it!"Yes, beer is safer, filtered and cheaper than bottled water but the wine is even less expensive.
Certainly in France it is a legal obligation in the commune to provide potable water in cemeteries.It would not occur to me to think that the tap in a cemetery in France or Germany is not connected to the drinking water supply network of the village or town. Of course it would be labelled as non drinkable if this were the case but why should it be? Doesn’t everybody know that you are most likely to get drinking water in a cemetery? The only problem is in winter month when it might be turned off to avoid damage due to frost.
Yes - if it were non-potable it should be labelled as such. I was just backing up the fact that water from the cemeteries has been reliable as being safe to drink.That's a good point, but I guess if it were not potable it would be labelled accordingly. (I hope!) I've availed myself of cemetery water in Germany and France and have been grateful. If it looks like the tap is connected to the mains I use it; if it were from a spring I would be hesitant. But you can't be sure unless it's labelled either way.
I have read this often on the forum, but on the Le Puy route in the month of June I never needed to take advantage of it. I will remember it is an option should I return to walk a route in FranceYes - if it were non-potable it should be labelled as such. I was just backing up the fact that water from the cemeteries has been reliable as being safe to drink.
I also never needed to use water at the cemeteries. I filled my 1L water bottle at the start of the day at the albergue (or more water on the few longer stretches). Never had to refill during the day except when I failed to refill before leaving the albergue (twice I was too lazy to do it haha). I did this because I never knew when the bars would open (since I was traveling during COVID - so early after Spain reopened).I have read this often on the forum, but on the Le Puy route in the month of June I never needed to take advantage of it. I will remember it is an option should I return to walk a route in France
Yes, I believe softdrink/soda bottles are better (than natural water bottles) formulated and made to withstand the pressure of the carbonate and to prevent it from contaminating the drink (the chemical brew) inside. I also prefer to reuse it for drinking water than common water bottles themselves.I have done the same thing except I've found the coca cola (or any soda brand) bottles to be a bit thicker and sturdier, better sealing cap and I purchase two or three of them at the beginning of the Camino and reuse all the way to SDC. They also fit nicely in the side pockets of my backpack.